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Vote: reverseroot
Shelving vezok for now. I gave root a chance to reread me but since they haven't it's clear their suspicion of me is agenda driven
Relatively high confidence on this one. Being suspicious of me is fine if nonsensical, but reverse root legitimately made a post that shows how little he's paying attention. Given the presence of day chat I get the sense that there was previous communication on this and he just spent some time making a post to legitimize his suspicion of me.
It failed.
If I check the thread again before tomorrow lynch me irl
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Vote: reverseroot
Shelving vezok for now. I gave root a chance to reread me but since they haven't it's clear their suspicion of me is agenda driven
Relatively high confidence on this one. Being suspicious of me is fine if nonsensical, but reverse root legitimately made a post that shows how little he's paying attention. Given the presence of day chat I get the sense that there was previous communication on this and he just spent some time making a post to legitimize his suspicion of me.
It failed.
If I check the thread again before tomorrow lynch me irl
Can you give a clear progression on why you think ReverseRoot is not reading the thread and what made you sure he is scum?
Things began to change as soon as he left the main highway. The sky became quite gray and, along with it, the whole countryside seemed to lose its color and assume the same monotonous tone. Everything was quiet, and even the air hung heavily. The birds sang only gray songs and the road wound back and forth in an endless series of climbing curves.
Mile after
mile after
mile after
mile he drove, and now, gradually the car went slower and slower, until it was hardly moving at all.
"It looks as though I'm getting nowhere," yawned Milo, becoming very drowsy and dull. "I hope I haven't taken a wrong turn."
Mile after
mile after
mile after
mile, and everything became grayer and more monotonous. Finally the car just stopped altogether, and, hard as he tried, it wouldn't budge another inch.
"I wonder where I am," said Milo in a very worried tone.
"You're... in... the... Dol... drums," wailed a voice that sounded far away.
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Shelving vezok for now. I gave root a chance to reread me but since they haven't it's clear their suspicion of me is agenda driven
Relatively high confidence on this one. Being suspicious of me is fine if nonsensical, but reverse root legitimately made a post that shows how little he's paying attention. Given the presence of day chat I get the sense that there was previous communication on this and he just spent some time making a post to legitimize his suspicion of me.
It failed.
If I check the thread again before tomorrow lynch me irl
I re-read you once again this morning, still read you scum. Your now on your 4th wagon, and you cant keep a stance for more than 5 posts, thats WHY i think your scum.
The only thing, other than seeing good town play that would make me change my mind on you is if youd like me to glance at a couple of your old games to see if anything in them makes me feel better. I have 8 hours tonight at work I can read and bull*****, feel free to give me something to read
Looks like reverse root is just doing what his partners told him to
Or anyone else who is scum? Doesnt have to be me ya know, but thats another wagon you have tried to get going buddy.
This sounds like a scumslip to me. What did you mean by it ReverseRoot?
What i meant is that any scum player can be told what to do in daytchat, doesnt matter who the scum is, there is daychat which means someone is taking the lead and quarterbacking it. I was pointing out that he could be the sacrificial lamb of the game for the scum team for all anyone knows.
Been busy at work getting ready for a five day staycation. Will have plenty of time to play mafia then. Kinda catching up. Will probably explain the emcee thing. Probably.
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I did a meta dive on Mikey. Two games. Friends and Off the Grid, I think?
Town and scum games are near identical but I'd say town had visibly better analysis.
I wanted to townlean him off his vote and reasons on ReverseRoot but it's still a fairly simple read on Root.
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What i meant is that any scum player can be told what to do in daytchat, doesnt matter who the scum is, there is daychat which means someone is taking the lead and quarterbacking it. I was pointing out that he could be the sacrificial lamb of the game for the scum team for all anyone knows.
Half the playerbase thinking I'm boring and/or busyposting is really demoralizing, so you get this instead.
@Mikey: No hurt feelings; maybe another time. However, why do you assume that ReverseRoot needs buddies to tell him what to do? It sounds to me like he has the experience to make his own decisions.
@Manasi: It helps establish a baseline of what he's used to and how I would expect such a player to act.
am I starting to townread Mikey? :thinking:
ah that's right I'm not
I'm sorry you're bad
Ok goodnight
Can we not do this please, I just had a game ruined by it and would like to avoid it this time around. Thanks
FYI before I forget - I'll be V/LA this weekend for prerelease.
ReverseRoot: what do you mean by "sacrificial lamb"? And what is the reason for 189?
Basically when a scum team gets a player who isnt comfy playing scum, or they think that their best play is to Bus one of their own early in the game. The reason for 189 is I know sometimes cantrips posts go on for ages, so i wanted to make sure he was reading them since he had made a comment earlier about not reading them.
Basically when a scum team gets a player who isnt comfy playing scum, or they think that their best play is to Bus one of their own early in the game. The reason for 189 is I know sometimes cantrips posts go on for ages, so i wanted to make sure he was reading them since he had made a comment earlier about not reading them.
if you're considering this for me you should probably go read friends and enemies
@Mikey: No hurt feelings; maybe another time. However, why do you assume that ReverseRoot needs buddies to tell him what to do? It sounds to me like he has the experience to make his own decisions.
his progression on me is factually nonsensical both because he admitted he misread a bunch of stuff and because he intentionally misinterpreted my progression on tom
it ends up looking hecka contrived, so I'm guessing scum buddies said "hey make a suspicion of mikey" and this was the best he could do.
it wasn't good
Half the playerbase thinking I'm boring and/or busyposting is really demoralizing, so you get this instead.
@Mikey: No hurt feelings; maybe another time. However, why do you assume that ReverseRoot needs buddies to tell him what to do? It sounds to me like he has the experience to make his own decisions.
@Manasi: It helps establish a baseline of what he's used to and how I would expect such a player to act.
Vote Vezok
V/LA until I'm done being butthurt.
I didn't call you boring. I said you're question was boring.
This is emotional manipulation at it's finest and I'd rather not have this type of drama in the game. Maybe when you come back we talk about the gamestate more instead of doing this.
On that note, what is your read on Manasi?
@ReverseRoot: Sorry, the quotes got messed up and I didn't realise you responded to me. What makes you say the scum team has a leader?
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@ReverseRoot: Sorry, the quotes got messed up and I didn't realise you responded to me. What makes you say the scum team has a leader?
Np, i dont like the new quoting system much... Because most of the time they have someone that is taking the lead, maybe not as a "role" leader, just a "natural" leader who wants to win and has ideas.
his progression on me is factually nonsensical both because he admitted he misread a bunch of stuff and because he intentionally misinterpreted my progression on tom
it ends up looking hecka contrived, so I'm guessing scum buddies said "hey make a suspicion of mikey" and this was the best he could do.
it wasn't good
You still havent answered why so many wagons this early? ive asked twice now... And what is nonsensical? I made a couple RVSish posts after getting prodded on my days off and when i re-read I found you scummy, for reasons i posted earlier. Going from RVS->Re-read->Finding you scummy->Reading Only you->still finding you scummy is a perfectly normal progression on day one.
Half the playerbase thinking I'm boring and/or busyposting is really demoralizing, so you get this instead.
@Mikey: No hurt feelings; maybe another time. However, why do you assume that ReverseRoot needs buddies to tell him what to do? It sounds to me like he has the experience to make his own decisions.
@Manasi: It helps establish a baseline of what he's used to and how I would expect such a player to act.
Vote Vezok
Why this vote? And what do you think of Mikey and Root?
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Shelving vezok for now. I gave root a chance to reread me but since they haven't it's clear their suspicion of me is agenda driven
Relatively high confidence on this one. Being suspicious of me is fine if nonsensical, but reverse root legitimately made a post that shows how little he's paying attention. Given the presence of day chat I get the sense that there was previous communication on this and he just spent some time making a post to legitimize his suspicion of me.
It failed.
If I check the thread again before tomorrow lynch me irl
Three wagons, I would count the Tom wagon as RVS, but you let it go for a while and started to try and make a case before backing off, probably because you were coached. And I didnt notice till now, but you brought up day chat twice with no reason or provocation, why? And tell me what is so unreasonable about:
Going from RVS->Re-read->Finding you scummy->Reading Only you->still finding you scummy???
@RE: Saying your vote is "late for RVS" is not the same thing as "after RVS." If you'd intended the latter, I thought you would've come out and said so. That's a big part of our misunderstanding here, and I do agree that we're less likely to be accurate in these early Days. Also no argument that you're unlikely to stick to your first "real" vote.
re: random votes, I agree that unusual =/= scum. But it was confusing to me that you didn't take advantage of a reaction that your post was explicitly made to generate. We agree that page 1 was full of random votes. My understanding was that you were trying to pass a serious vote as a random one, and needed to explain it after the fact, which is disingenuous if that was your intent.
But calling my read malicious is, in itself, malicious (but understandable as town that thinks they are being wronged). Call it OMGUS, but you provided the first concrete "lead" for me to pursue this game, right or wrong. As we know, wrong =/= scum, and if you think it's founded on misunderstandings between my perception of what you wrote versus your intention, then wrong is a very plausible outcome. Using my misinterpretations to paint you as scum, if I believe them to be true, really isn't something that can be faulted if you don't think it's malicious in intent.
tom's behavior this game is the equivalent of a 10 hour youtube video of Gregg from Night in the Woods waving his arms in the air with cups on his head and I see no reason to wolf read that
ok but why loudly declare it as scum
I'm getting the vibe it's not abnormal for Tom to be pretty outlandish in his posting by reactions here? Let me know if this is an unfair call but it's s pretty easy wolf gimmick for a wolf to try to do something that would make people go "l0l0l why would a wolf be so weird l0l"
and I kinda feel like its pretty natural for that to occur to someone when they're trying to read a player hard gimmicking
so town!Tom why exactly?
I don't think there's a good reason for it yet, thus my skepticism of Emcee's explanation yet. Tom has a very pronounced opinion that he does nothing AI.
@Cantrip remind me to respond to your question towards the worst regarding Emcee once he answers it (or once I progress far enough in reading to see his answer). In case it wasn't clear, not a dichotomy, but two separate, opposite reads.
I've no more time to acknowledge anything that happened beyond this (pages 4-5). Tomorrow!
Three wagons, I would count the Tom wagon as RVS, but you let it go for a while and started to try and make a case before backing off, probably because you were coached. And I didnt notice till now, but you brought up day chat twice with no reason or provocation, why? And tell me what is so unreasonable about:
Going from RVS->Re-read->Finding you scummy->Reading Only you->still finding you scummy???
you can hardly count tom's vote as a wagon, nor my vote on kamikazearchon (which you missed)
Tom VOTE not WAGON was a direct response to his behavior and is a justifiable vote. I've played a game with tom and he was not like this in that game. I didn't try to "make a case". You're full of crap, and you've already dug yourself in this hole, you're not getting out.
I brought up daychat because it's the most reasonable explanation for your behavior.
I'd call it bull if it was bull, which it probably would be given your cruddy reasoning you're trying to use to back a me suspicion
Fair enough, some people call it how they see it. But what i see is me trying to make a case that I currently believe in. Ive seen you hop from wagon to wagon and not make a solid case or reasoning the whole game on any votes.
Also, I asked two questions, if im not scum hunting, what am i doing?
Np, i dont like the new quoting system much... Because most of the time they have someone that is taking the lead, maybe not as a "role" leader, just a "natural" leader who wants to win and has ideas.
interesting take, my experience with scumteams tends to be 2/3 of the time it's just people going "AH CRAP NOT AGAIN". which games have you had involvement in to give you this opinion? you must have had some fortunate scumgames; I hope they were fun!
Np, i dont like the new quoting system much... Because most of the time they have someone that is taking the lead, maybe not as a "role" leader, just a "natural" leader who wants to win and has ideas.
interesting take, my experience with scumteams tends to be 2/3 of the time it's just people going "AH CRAP NOT AGAIN". which games have you had involvement in to give you this opinion? you must have had some fortunate scumgames; I hope they were fun!
Very nice try Worst, unfortunately my old posts are inaccessible to anyone who isnt a admin of the site. I started playing on MTGNews in like 2002, and ive played off and on there/here and on scum since. Ive seen and done things in games that would give you nightmares, one game on MTGNews I won the game as town on day 2 because i was a vig with a day and night shot and we lynched scum on day 1. THe biggest loss to the game was the transition from using a FOS in the early game to using RVS votes.
Another thing to remember is burnout, some people love to play certain roles and others hate to play certain roles. With the shrinking player pool here it wouldnt surprise me if you see alot of that
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~Daychat, a couple days ago~
WOLF 1 and VEZOK are in wolfchat stage left. Enter REVERSEROOT.
REVERSEROOT: Looks like Mikey is a good lynch candidate. Should we push?
WOLF 1: Not all of us, looks bad on us after flip.
VEZOK: Plenty of humans are already scum reading him.
REVERSEROOT: Ok, what should we do?
WOLF 1: You can push Mikey solo if you like.
VEZOK: Yeah go iso him and just pick stuff out, try to build a compelling case.
REVERSEROOT: Ok. Shouldn't be hard. REVERSEROOT leaves.
~Later that day~ REVERSEROOT has finished looking at Mikey's ISO. Looking satisfied, he jots down a couple notes on things that could be perceived as scummy. Unfortunately, REVERSEROOT mistakenly doesn't bother looking at context.
REVERSEROOT: This should probably be enough to swing the wagon onto Mikey and off Vezok. REVERSEROOT enters the thread.
REVERSEROOT: Hey, everyone, I made a post outlining my suspicion of Mikey. Here it is. The post has several factual errors showing little effort was put into it. The points that are made are forced. MIKEY enters.
MIKEY: This sucks.
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~Daychat, a couple days ago~
WOLF 1 and VEZOK are in wolfchat stage left. Enter REVERSEROOT.
REVERSEROOT: Looks like Mikey is a good lynch candidate. Should we push?
WOLF 1: Not all of us, looks bad on us after flip.
VEZOK: Plenty of humans are already scum reading him.
REVERSEROOT: Ok, what should we do?
WOLF 1: You can push Mikey solo if you like.
VEZOK: Yeah go iso him and just pick stuff out, try to build a compelling case.
REVERSEROOT: Ok. Shouldn't be hard. REVERSEROOT leaves.
~Later that day~ REVERSEROOT has finished looking at Mikey's ISO. Looking satisfied, he jots down a couple notes on things that could be perceived as scummy. Unfortunately, REVERSEROOT mistakenly doesn't bother looking at context.
REVERSEROOT: This should probably be enough to swing the wagon onto Mikey and off Vezok. REVERSEROOT enters the thread.
REVERSEROOT: Hey, everyone, I made a post outlining my suspicion of Mikey. Here it is. The post has several factual errors showing little effort was put into it. The points that are made are forced. MIKEY enters.
MIKEY: This sucks.
THE END
So nothing actually constructive? Just a bunch of parody?
@RE: Saying your vote is "late for RVS" is not the same thing as "after RVS." If you'd intended the latter, I thought you would've come out and said so. That's a big part of our misunderstanding here, and I do agree that we're less likely to be accurate in these early Days. Also no argument that you're unlikely to stick to your first "real" vote.
re: random votes, I agree that unusual =/= scum. But it was confusing to me that you didn't take advantage of a reaction that your post was explicitly made to generate. We agree that page 1 was full of random votes. My understanding was that you were trying to pass a serious vote as a random one, and needed to explain it after the fact, which is disingenuous if that was your intent.
But calling my read malicious is, in itself, malicious (but understandable as town that thinks they are being wronged). Call it OMGUS, but you provided the first concrete "lead" for me to pursue this game, right or wrong. As we know, wrong =/= scum, and if you think it's founded on misunderstandings between my perception of what you wrote versus your intention, then wrong is a very plausible outcome. Using my misinterpretations to paint you as scum, if I believe them to be true, really isn't something that can be faulted if you don't think it's malicious in intent.
tom's behavior this game is the equivalent of a 10 hour youtube video of Gregg from Night in the Woods waving his arms in the air with cups on his head and I see no reason to wolf read that
ok but why loudly declare it as scum
I'm getting the vibe it's not abnormal for Tom to be pretty outlandish in his posting by reactions here? Let me know if this is an unfair call but it's s pretty easy wolf gimmick for a wolf to try to do something that would make people go "l0l0l why would a wolf be so weird l0l"
and I kinda feel like its pretty natural for that to occur to someone when they're trying to read a player hard gimmicking
so town!Tom why exactly?
I don't think there's a good reason for it yet, thus my skepticism of Emcee's explanation yet. Tom has a very pronounced opinion that he does nothing AI.
@Cantrip remind me to respond to your question towards the worst regarding Emcee once he answers it (or once I progress far enough in reading to see his answer). In case it wasn't clear, not a dichotomy, but two separate, opposite reads.
I've no more time to acknowledge anything that happened beyond this (pages 4-5). Tomorrow!
@RE: Saying your vote is "late for RVS" is not the same thing as "after RVS."
It is the same thing? It means, it is not an RVS vote. The only difference - and in this case, I definitely intended to say "late for RVS" - is I could understand someone misinterpreting it to be RVS because it was my first vote.
If you'd intended the latter, I thought you would've come out and said so. That's a big part of our misunderstanding here
I never once said my vote was RVS. Nor did I say it was random. I said exactly what I meant. The post that may have confused you was one you took out of context, because I was speaking from Kill's point of view where he perceived my vote as random.
re: random votes, I agree that unusual =/= scum. But it was confusing to me that you didn't take advantage of a reaction that your post was explicitly made to generate. We agree that page 1 was full of random votes. My understanding was that you were trying to pass a serious vote as a random one, and needed to explain it after the fact, which is disingenuous if that was your intent.
I wanted to see who would question my vote. I have absolutely no idea how you came to the conclusion that I wanted to pass it off as an RVS vote.
But calling my read malicious is, in itself, malicious (but understandable as town that thinks they are being wronged).
No. I define malicious as lack of an attempt to understand another player's perspective before labeling them as scum. You fall into that category. Here:
>KA trys to start game
>RE decides he doesn't like this, and votes him
>RE acknowledges KA was trying to start the game after being called out by Killma, but doesn't unvote
>RE acknowledges that his vote was after RVS, but still a random vote, but defends his random vote
>Defense of not-so-random random vote chooses to omit the first reaction that it was intended to generate (mine)
The bold is malicious because you misrepresented why I voted KA. I didn't vote him because he was trying to start the game. I voted him because the manner in which he asked questions felt forced. I stated this, and you omitted it.
Call it OMGUS, but you provided the first concrete "lead" for me to pursue this game, right or wrong. As we know, wrong =/= scum, and if you think it's founded on misunderstandings between my perception of what you wrote versus your intention, then wrong is a very plausible outcome. Using my misinterpretations to paint you as scum, if I believe them to be true, really isn't something that can be faulted if you don't think it's malicious in intent.
I don't care that you are wrong. I care more for reasoning and how your read on me develops. So far, still malicious. You continue to refuse to see from my perspective and blame your misunderstandings on me.
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Shelving vezok for now. I gave root a chance to reread me but since they haven't it's clear their suspicion of me is agenda driven
Relatively high confidence on this one. Being suspicious of me is fine if nonsensical, but reverse root legitimately made a post that shows how little he's paying attention. Given the presence of day chat I get the sense that there was previous communication on this and he just spent some time making a post to legitimize his suspicion of me.
It failed.
If I check the thread again before tomorrow lynch me irl
ah that's right I'm not
That was me accusing root of his partners telling him to have a me suspicion
The reading comprehension this game is at an all time low, I blame school starting
Ok goodnight
idk I'm in a lot of games and kinda not engaged yet
my bad if that was a blatant misread lmfao
Can you give a clear progression on why you think ReverseRoot is not reading the thread and what made you sure he is scum?
This sounds like a scumslip to me. What did you mean by it ReverseRoot?
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ReverseRoot (3) - KamikazeArchon, RE1031, Emcee_Mikey
ganderin_dan (2) - Killmatronix, tomsloger
Cantripmancer (1) - the worst
RE1031 (1) - ganderin_dan
Not voting: Cantripmancer, Manasi
Day 1 Lynch Deadline will be Sunday, September 30th at 1500 MST. There will be a Twilight period (No voting) of 0-8 hours to account for the host having a life outside of Mafia.
With 12 players, it takes 7 to lynch.
Cantripmancer is V/LA until Monday.
ganderin_dan has been prodded.
HE AIN'T DONE *****.
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SCUM TO ME.
[NO REASONS GIVEN]
vote: emcee_mikey
I re-read you once again this morning, still read you scum. Your now on your 4th wagon, and you cant keep a stance for more than 5 posts, thats WHY i think your scum.
The only thing, other than seeing good town play that would make me change my mind on you is if youd like me to glance at a couple of your old games to see if anything in them makes me feel better. I have 8 hours tonight at work I can read and bull*****, feel free to give me something to read
Mikey didnt ask, he just brought it to everyones attention because he thinks no one can comprehend posts in this game
What i meant is that any scum player can be told what to do in daytchat, doesnt matter who the scum is, there is daychat which means someone is taking the lead and quarterbacking it. I was pointing out that he could be the sacrificial lamb of the game for the scum team for all anyone knows.
Town and scum games are near identical but I'd say town had visibly better analysis.
I wanted to townlean him off his vote and reasons on ReverseRoot but it's still a fairly simple read on Root.
First off: ReverseRoot: Please answer the question in my last post. Or acknowledge it.
@Kpaca : Some questions for when you get back: What's your opinion on The Worst and ReverseRoot.
@Killmatronix: Let's say you have a vig shot that needs to be used in the next post. Who do you shoot and why?
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I did at the bottom of 211, see below
FYI before I forget - I'll be V/LA this weekend for prerelease.
ReverseRoot: what do you mean by "sacrificial lamb"? And what is the reason for 189?
@Mikey: No hurt feelings; maybe another time. However, why do you assume that ReverseRoot needs buddies to tell him what to do? It sounds to me like he has the experience to make his own decisions.
@Manasi: It helps establish a baseline of what he's used to and how I would expect such a player to act.
Vote Vezok
V/LA until I'm done being butthurt.
Basically when a scum team gets a player who isnt comfy playing scum, or they think that their best play is to Bus one of their own early in the game. The reason for 189 is I know sometimes cantrips posts go on for ages, so i wanted to make sure he was reading them since he had made a comment earlier about not reading them.
it ends up looking hecka contrived, so I'm guessing scum buddies said "hey make a suspicion of mikey" and this was the best he could do.
it wasn't good
I didn't call you boring. I said you're question was boring.
This is emotional manipulation at it's finest and I'd rather not have this type of drama in the game. Maybe when you come back we talk about the gamestate more instead of doing this.
On that note, what is your read on Manasi?
@ReverseRoot: Sorry, the quotes got messed up and I didn't realise you responded to me. What makes you say the scum team has a leader?
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Np, i dont like the new quoting system much... Because most of the time they have someone that is taking the lead, maybe not as a "role" leader, just a "natural" leader who wants to win and has ideas.
You still havent answered why so many wagons this early? ive asked twice now... And what is nonsensical? I made a couple RVSish posts after getting prodded on my days off and when i re-read I found you scummy, for reasons i posted earlier. Going from RVS->Re-read->Finding you scummy->Reading Only you->still finding you scummy is a perfectly normal progression on day one.
you're obvscum, vezok isn't
and your progression on me would be fine if it was reasonable like anyone else's. Your reasoning is contrived.
Three wagons, I would count the Tom wagon as RVS, but you let it go for a while and started to try and make a case before backing off, probably because you were coached. And I didnt notice till now, but you brought up day chat twice with no reason or provocation, why? And tell me what is so unreasonable about:
Going from RVS->Re-read->Finding you scummy->Reading Only you->still finding you scummy???
re: random votes, I agree that unusual =/= scum. But it was confusing to me that you didn't take advantage of a reaction that your post was explicitly made to generate. We agree that page 1 was full of random votes. My understanding was that you were trying to pass a serious vote as a random one, and needed to explain it after the fact, which is disingenuous if that was your intent.
But calling my read malicious is, in itself, malicious (but understandable as town that thinks they are being wronged). Call it OMGUS, but you provided the first concrete "lead" for me to pursue this game, right or wrong. As we know, wrong =/= scum, and if you think it's founded on misunderstandings between my perception of what you wrote versus your intention, then wrong is a very plausible outcome. Using my misinterpretations to paint you as scum, if I believe them to be true, really isn't something that can be faulted if you don't think it's malicious in intent.
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I don't think there's a good reason for it yet, thus my skepticism of Emcee's explanation yet. Tom has a very pronounced opinion that he does nothing AI.
@Cantrip remind me to respond to your question towards the worst regarding Emcee once he answers it (or once I progress far enough in reading to see his answer). In case it wasn't clear, not a dichotomy, but two separate, opposite reads.
I've no more time to acknowledge anything that happened beyond this (pages 4-5). Tomorrow!
Tom VOTE not WAGON was a direct response to his behavior and is a justifiable vote. I've played a game with tom and he was not like this in that game. I didn't try to "make a case". You're full of crap, and you've already dug yourself in this hole, you're not getting out.
I brought up daychat because it's the most reasonable explanation for your behavior.
ftfy
root's approach to me is the single scummiest thing in this game so far
Scum hunting isnt a reasonable explanation? Who are you, littlefinger?
NO REAL READ, BUT DEFINITELY TOWN IN THE MIKEY/VEZOK WORLD
I keep asking questions and you dont take most seriously, WHY is scum hunting bull then? make a real case as to why its bull
Then what would you call what im doing? If I was making a case of any sort against another player, what would you call it?
I really wanna read dan towny let's not push on him thank u.
Fair enough, some people call it how they see it. But what i see is me trying to make a case that I currently believe in. Ive seen you hop from wagon to wagon and not make a solid case or reasoning the whole game on any votes.
Also, I asked two questions, if im not scum hunting, what am i doing?
interesting take, my experience with scumteams tends to be 2/3 of the time it's just people going "AH CRAP NOT AGAIN". which games have you had involvement in to give you this opinion? you must have had some fortunate scumgames; I hope they were fun!
Very nice try Worst, unfortunately my old posts are inaccessible to anyone who isnt a admin of the site. I started playing on MTGNews in like 2002, and ive played off and on there/here and on scum since. Ive seen and done things in games that would give you nightmares, one game on MTGNews I won the game as town on day 2 because i was a vig with a day and night shot and we lynched scum on day 1. THe biggest loss to the game was the transition from using a FOS in the early game to using RVS votes.
Another thing to remember is burnout, some people love to play certain roles and others hate to play certain roles. With the shrinking player pool here it wouldnt surprise me if you see alot of that
~Daychat, a couple days ago~
WOLF 1 and VEZOK are in wolfchat stage left. Enter REVERSEROOT.
REVERSEROOT: Looks like Mikey is a good lynch candidate. Should we push?
WOLF 1: Not all of us, looks bad on us after flip.
VEZOK: Plenty of humans are already scum reading him.
REVERSEROOT: Ok, what should we do?
WOLF 1: You can push Mikey solo if you like.
VEZOK: Yeah go iso him and just pick stuff out, try to build a compelling case.
REVERSEROOT: Ok. Shouldn't be hard.
REVERSEROOT leaves.
~Later that day~
REVERSEROOT has finished looking at Mikey's ISO. Looking satisfied, he jots down a couple notes on things that could be perceived as scummy. Unfortunately, REVERSEROOT mistakenly doesn't bother looking at context.
REVERSEROOT: This should probably be enough to swing the wagon onto Mikey and off Vezok.
REVERSEROOT enters the thread.
REVERSEROOT: Hey, everyone, I made a post outlining my suspicion of Mikey. Here it is.
The post has several factual errors showing little effort was put into it. The points that are made are forced. MIKEY enters.
MIKEY: This sucks.
THE END
"A TALE OF TWO TWGERS", a play by Emcee_Mikey, will hit Broadway in December of this year.
So nothing actually constructive? Just a bunch of parody?
So no actual constructive posts? I guess I will make one then...
Back to saying Vezok is scum
And here is another wagon getting built
Not a single wagon has had any reasoning and i have not seen you build a logical case yet...
if it isn't I apologize
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