Cause I need more to see if he's tunneled town or tunneled scum
I realize I sometimes have that affect on people
Why cant he tunnel both?
idk, i've never seen a role that's both town and scum
(I mean to say, is he tunneling as town or tunneling as scum, I'd like to observe him a bit longer.)
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Cause I need more to see if he's tunneled town or tunneled scum
I realize I sometimes have that affect on people
Why cant he tunnel both?
idk, i've never seen a role that's both town and scum
(I mean to say, is he tunneling as town or tunneling as scum, I'd like to observe him a bit longer.)
Ahh okay i misunderstood, I thought you meant he was tunneling ON scum/town not AS scum/town
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Vote: vezok
I can't freaking do this on phone sorry guys
I'm perceiving a bunch of self restraint from his posts
And stuff
The only reason this is not a vote on you is because I'm already voting for you.
You can't wish-wash a read by saying I'm "reserved". Is that in relation to my meta? Is that just game specific? Elaborate on your read because right now I just think you are scum.
vezok only has 8 posts, one of which was an RVS
aside the fact that I'm used to more gusto from vezok in general his first couple of posts are super noncommital. Anything that could be read as him playing the game is him sheeping killmanix' read on RE's vote for kamikazearchon.
Everything else is neutral commentary- "A vote without reason even in RVS looks like scum trying to blend in".
Everything he's said is focused on RE, but doesn't even commit to a read on RE. He brings up the possibility without pushing/applying pressure/scum reading RE. Even a small chance that this is a bit coachy, but I townread RE right now. More like vezok is trying to set up an RE mislynch, which is why he's shading without commiting. He's testing the waters to see if people go for it.
Now that I have 3 votes on me, of course he's scum reading me.
yes I'm on a pc right now does anyone else think it's weird how it's so much easier to get your thoughts out when you have a physical keyboard and monitor in front of you
maybe it's just a me thing, my phone makes me feel claustrophobic
Cantrip, I've thought about it pretty hard, and we can't be friends. I really want to, but you pocketed me in that one game and you're a solid player so I can't sleep on your slot. I hope you understand. Maybe we can be friends in the future though
yes I'm on a pc right now does anyone else think it's weird how it's so much easier to get your thoughts out when you have a physical keyboard and monitor in front of you
maybe it's just a me thing, my phone makes me feel claustrophobic
The fact you act like you're contributing to the thread while blasting us with busywork, yet refuse to pick up on the obvious typo in my post, seriously doesn't jive. lmaooo
first sentence is extremely obviously meant to read "why loudly declare it as town"
Cantrip, I've thought about it pretty hard, and we can't be friends. I really want to, but you pocketed me in that one game and you're a solid player so I can't sleep on your slot. I hope you understand. Maybe we can be friends in the future though
vezok only has 8 posts, one of which was an RVS
aside the fact that I'm used to more gusto from vezok in general his first couple of posts are super noncommital. Anything that could be read as him playing the game is him sheeping killmanix' read on RE's vote for kamikazearchon.
Everything else is neutral commentary- "A vote without reason even in RVS looks like scum trying to blend in".
Everything he's said is focused on RE, but doesn't even commit to a read on RE. He brings up the possibility without pushing/applying pressure/scum reading RE. Even a small chance that this is a bit coachy, but I townread RE right now. More like vezok is trying to set up an RE mislynch, which is why he's shading without commiting. He's testing the waters to see if people go for it.
Now that I have 3 votes on me, of course he's scum reading me.
Maybe you should improve your reading comprehension and realise that I called RE town. Now I've never heard of shading a person by calling them town, but what do I know.
It's also disingineous to say I jumped on your wagon because it has three votes when I was already voting you.
@tom: At the very least you are wrong about me.
@the worst: I have no idea what you are talking about in your last post
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Do you have any thoughts on the game state? Pushes that seem justified or not?
I always have real issues day 1 in games that Tom is in. He just is too chaotic, and I know with him that could mean a billion different things, or nothing all at once, its Schrodinger's Tom basically
To me everything still seems RVS, so no, nothing really seems that "justified", but it is as it should be.
I think that his pushes are okay but I'm really not sure about his read on Dan. I think half of Cantrip's posts are really good and half are like, super filler, so @Cantrip, what are you getting out of all of the questions you've been asking (in terms of offsite phases and stuff)? I'm inclined to just call him tonw but I feel like some of those questions sound like scum trying to reach out and interact with everyone for ??? reasons. Only reason I want some verification there.
If Kami scum read me before they responded to that other post about me, I missed that. Good scum read off of three posts. Maybe it was just a lean given the detachment but either way it kinda pinged me when I was reading back. Will look there later if I ever remember but probably won't.
Emcee Mikey or whatever is a pretty solid villager imo. Good start, Manasi.
Do you have any thoughts on the game state? Pushes that seem justified or not?
I always have real issues day 1 in games that Tom is in. He just is too chaotic, and I know with him that could mean a billion different things, or nothing all at once, its Schrodinger's Tom basically
To me everything still seems RVS, so no, nothing really seems that "justified", but it is as it should be.
Mikey's vote on vez is serious. Vez' vote on Mikey is serious. Gan's vote on me is serious. Tom has the whole scum team pegged, possibly. My vote on you is somewhat serious.
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If Kami scum read me before they responded to that other post about me, I missed that. Good scum read off of three posts. Maybe it was just a lean given the detachment but either way it kinda pinged me when I was reading back. Will look there later if I ever remember but probably won't.
It was good but it pinged you?
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If Kami scum read me before they responded to that other post about me, I missed that. Good scum read off of three posts. Maybe it was just a lean given the detachment but either way it kinda pinged me when I was reading back. Will look there later if I ever remember but probably won't.
It was good but it pinged you?
I'm not sure why you would read that and not see the sarcasm in it... Who ever thinks a scum read on them is good? Yikes. Not sure I like this question but might just be a you thing so who knows.
If Kami scum read me before they responded to that other post about me, I missed that. Good scum read off of three posts. Maybe it was just a lean given the detachment but either way it kinda pinged me when I was reading back. Will look there later if I ever remember but probably won't.
It was good but it pinged you?
I'm not sure why you would read that and not see the sarcasm in it... Who ever thinks a scum read on them is good? Yikes. Not sure I like this question but might just be a you thing so who knows.
Okay, sarcasm.
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I always have real issues day 1 in games that Tom is in.
WAIT WHO ARE YOU?
I have played a handful (~5-8ish) games with you. I used to have a long-term MTGS account that used my main Online-identity. During the drama with the female magic player where the SJWs went ballistic and this site wouldnt allow a two-sided conversation about it I decided to pull that account and have it deleted by curse so that my online-identity was not associated with this site anymore. Between that and some mafia in-game issues I took a breather for a while so that i didnt get pissy and make an ass of myself.
Mikey's vote on vez is serious. Vez' vote on Mikey is serious. Gan's vote on me is serious. Tom has the whole scum team pegged, possibly. My vote on you is somewhat serious.
Ive been paying the most attention to those who I have played with, its early day 1 ya know? Im assuming you want real opinions on all of this, gimme a few hours and I will answer with more detail
Do you have any thoughts on the game state? Pushes that seem justified or not?
I always have real issues day 1 in games that Tom is in. He just is too chaotic, and I know with him that could mean a billion different things, or nothing all at once, its Schrodinger's Tom basically
To me everything still seems RVS, so no, nothing really seems that "justified", but it is as it should be.
Mikey, you were the only person who every post made me feel like your just newb!scum and you are all over the place. Here is what I mean:
9- You ask Cantrip to be your friend
14- RVS vote, calling Tom a Liar
37- Guilt Tripping Cantrip about his comment about killing himself ingame,
41- Explained the vote on tom was because he was acting "weird" (Tom is tom lol)
62,63- Recanted the votes on Tom, but still says he is weird
74- Recanted about Tom being weird
82- Explains you have only played 1 game with Tom, and cant meta him, but he is acting weird?
87- Now Tom is town
118- You claim Manasi and Re are town, Vezo is scum
135- You vote Vezo, due to "self-restraint" but no explanation
154- What is this crap?
157- You double down on your vezo vote
160- Now cantrip is going to pocket you? when you tried to start the flirting???
168- No One took the cantrip bait, back to vezo
If anyone wants to know why I am reading anyone else a certain way, feel free to ask. Outside of a smoking gun my vote is staying on Mikey for the day
Do you have any thoughts on the game state? Pushes that seem justified or not?
I always have real issues day 1 in games that Tom is in. He just is too chaotic, and I know with him that could mean a billion different things, or nothing all at once, its Schrodinger's Tom basically
To me everything still seems RVS, so no, nothing really seems that "justified", but it is as it should be.
Explain how the current Mikey situation is RVS.
The mikey situation was RVS at first and it kinda grew out from under it. Im of the thought that the first 10 or so pages are RVS. As early in the day/game as it was I was mainly watching those I knew because I can usually pick up one player inparticulars scum game fairly well. My plan was to give a few more pages and do a re-read then when I had more than 1-2 posts from some people.
Since RE asked for my input, i just went ahead and did everything now
If you see my actions as noob scum then you should probably re-evaluate your read on me
I'm seeing a huge bs misinterpretation of my progression on Tom and you're using it to fit your own whim rather than looking at it as a reasonable progression to make
Tom is weird
I voted for him because he's being weird
Tom is town
Voting for town is dumb
He's still weird
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Yeah what the bubble is this garbo interpretation of my posts
I said who wantrs to be my friend and cantrip was the only one who responded lol I didn't call him out whatsoever
Yes cantrip is pocketing me
This is stupid. I shouldn't have to repeat myself. Go reread. And if you try to defend the same conclusion you arrived at here, it can only mean you're scum for being so obviously agenda driven
If you see my actions as noob scum then you should probably re-evaluate your read on me
I'm seeing a huge bs misinterpretation of my progression on Tom and you're using it to fit your own whim rather than looking at it as a reasonable progression to make
Tom is weird
I voted for him because he's being weird
Tom is town
Voting for town is dumb
He's still weird
[Rude comment about your reading comprehension redacted]
But there was no progression from voting because he was weird, to Tom is town.
What gets me the most with the Tom thing, is everyone know he plays crack-shot off the wall, how is it weird? Ive never seen him act any other way on day 1, its always something with him.
Yeah what the bubble is this garbo interpretation of my posts
I said who wantrs to be my friend and cantrip was the only one who responded lol I didn't call him out whatsoever
Yes cantrip is pocketing me
This is stupid. I shouldn't have to repeat myself. Go reread. And if you try to defend the same conclusion you arrived at here, it can only mean you're scum for being so obviously agenda driven
You are correct, I mis-typed my notes, he was the one who instigated it. But im reading him as scum too so either way its fine. What agenda do I have though? Waiting a few pages to get a feel for players I dont know? Answering someone who asked me a serious question?
I think that his pushes are okay but I'm really not sure about his read on Dan. I think half of Cantrip's posts are really good and half are like, super filler, so @Cantrip, what are you getting out of all of the questions you've been asking (in terms of offsite phases and stuff)? I'm inclined to just call him tonw but I feel like some of those questions sound like scum trying to reach out and interact with everyone for ??? reasons. Only reason I want some verification there.
If Kami scum read me before they responded to that other post about me, I missed that. Good scum read off of three posts. Maybe it was just a lean given the detachment but either way it kinda pinged me when I was reading back. Will look there later if I ever remember but probably won't.
Emcee Mikey or whatever is a pretty solid villager imo. Good start, Manasi.
AMA.
what made you reach the conclusion of "eh probably town" for on Cantrip?
DON'T REALLY LIKE HOW ROOT IS LEVERAGING HIS READ OF ME AGAINST MIKEY. HE'S PAINTING ME AS SCUMMY WHILE SAYING HE JUST DOESN'T LIKE MY PLAYSTYLE AND SAYING MIKEY SHOULDN'T BE SWAYED BY THAT AND ITS DEFINITELY AGENDA-Y.
Did you ever read any of his walls of text before voting him?
Every excruciating word of them
you might note in the same post I lied about not reading them I asked if anyone caught an ounce of nuance in them which was a discreet suggestion towards the fact I've been reading all of his posts and think they're scum busywork
DON'T REALLY LIKE HOW ROOT IS LEVERAGING HIS READ OF ME AGAINST MIKEY. HE'S PAINTING ME AS SCUMMY WHILE SAYING HE JUST DOESN'T LIKE MY PLAYSTYLE AND SAYING MIKEY SHOULDN'T BE SWAYED BY THAT AND ITS DEFINITELY AGENDA-Y.
1. KamikazeArchon- null
2. vezokpiraka- scum
3. tomsloger- town
4. kpaca- null
5. ReverseRoot- scum
6. ganderin_dan- null, get back to me on this
7. RE1031- town
8. Killmatronix- null?
9. Cantripmancer- paranoid tier
10. Emcee_Mikey- locktown
11. The Worst- null
12. Manasi- town
Manasi and Tom big town, re close behind
Of all the nulls I think the scummiest is kpaca for dropping that vote on me, but it's too on the nose to actually be true
I bet anything at least wolf is scum reading me right now, it's just too good to pass up
DON'T REALLY LIKE HOW ROOT IS LEVERAGING HIS READ OF ME AGAINST MIKEY. HE'S PAINTING ME AS SCUMMY WHILE SAYING HE JUST DOESN'T LIKE MY PLAYSTYLE AND SAYING MIKEY SHOULDN'T BE SWAYED BY THAT AND ITS DEFINITELY AGENDA-Y.
PROBABLY FINE IF MIKEY IS SCUM THOUGH.
Tom, what I mean in plain english is any game ive played with you or any past game of yours I have read I have ALWAYS seen you do something goofy that made me feel you were scummy day 1, I am for the most part ignoring my read for a day or two so I can get a decent read on you thats not based on meta.
Did you ever read any of his walls of text before voting him?
Every excruciating word of them
you might note in the same post I lied about not reading them I asked if anyone caught an ounce of nuance in them which was a discreet suggestion towards the fact I've been reading all of his posts and think they're scum busywork
I WOULD DESCRIBE CANTRIPS PLAYSTYLE AS "MOSTLY BUSYWORK" REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT.
THAT SAID, I HAVE NOT READ HIS WALLS. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU IM USUALLY PRETTY GOOD AT READING HIM
This is irony, I believe he is scum, but not doing busy work. Worst thinks he is scum doing busy work, and tom thinks he is doing busy work, regardless of alignment. This would be an interesting thing to bay-net after the game if we could get enough data compiled but to stay on topic cantrip is just all around a very seasoned player, no reason for him to do busy work as scum.
Looks like reverse root is just doing what his partners told him to[/quote]
Or anyone else who is scum? Doesnt have to be me ya know, but thats another wagon you have tried to get going buddy.
I WOULD DESCRIBE CANTRIPS PLAYSTYLE AS "MOSTLY BUSYWORK" REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT.
THAT SAID, I HAVE NOT READ HIS WALLS. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU IM USUALLY PRETTY GOOD AT READING HIM
I think you're town so I'd be super super keen to hear what you think of his posting when you've had a chance to stare into his soul
fyi if you're not town you're required to claim immediately, it is against the Tom code to roll scum against another Tom as soon as you become friends. just saying.
(I mean to say, is he tunneling as town or tunneling as scum, I'd like to observe him a bit longer.)
Ahh okay i misunderstood, I thought you meant he was tunneling ON scum/town not AS scum/town
DANS JUST TREATING PEOPLE LIKE SCUM DO. NO CONNECTION TO THE OTHERS THOUGH.
I'M READY TO END THE DAY/TOMORROW/DAY 3 LETSGO
aside the fact that I'm used to more gusto from vezok in general his first couple of posts are super noncommital. Anything that could be read as him playing the game is him sheeping killmanix' read on RE's vote for kamikazearchon.
Everything else is neutral commentary- "A vote without reason even in RVS looks like scum trying to blend in".
Everything he's said is focused on RE, but doesn't even commit to a read on RE. He brings up the possibility without pushing/applying pressure/scum reading RE. Even a small chance that this is a bit coachy, but I townread RE right now. More like vezok is trying to set up an RE mislynch, which is why he's shading without commiting. He's testing the waters to see if people go for it.
Now that I have 3 votes on me, of course he's scum reading me.
maybe it's just a me thing, my phone makes me feel claustrophobic
Do you have any thoughts on the game state? Pushes that seem justified or not?
vote vezok
Cantrip, I've thought about it pretty hard, and we can't be friends. I really want to, but you pocketed me in that one game and you're a solid player so I can't sleep on your slot. I hope you understand. Maybe we can be friends in the future though
first sentence is extremely obviously meant to read "why loudly declare it as town"
I feel it
you're town irl
Maybe you should improve your reading comprehension and realise that I called RE town. Now I've never heard of shading a person by calling them town, but what do I know.
It's also disingineous to say I jumped on your wagon because it has three votes when I was already voting you.
@tom: At the very least you are wrong about me.
@the worst: I have no idea what you are talking about in your last post
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eh
pacha
other people voted for me/declared suspicion of me well before you even said anything about me
your commentary on anything relevant this game is completely absent
why
I always have real issues day 1 in games that Tom is in. He just is too chaotic, and I know with him that could mean a billion different things, or nothing all at once, its Schrodinger's Tom basically
To me everything still seems RVS, so no, nothing really seems that "justified", but it is as it should be.
I think that his pushes are okay but I'm really not sure about his read on Dan. I think half of Cantrip's posts are really good and half are like, super filler, so @Cantrip, what are you getting out of all of the questions you've been asking (in terms of offsite phases and stuff)? I'm inclined to just call him tonw but I feel like some of those questions sound like scum trying to reach out and interact with everyone for ??? reasons. Only reason I want some verification there.
If Kami scum read me before they responded to that other post about me, I missed that. Good scum read off of three posts. Maybe it was just a lean given the detachment but either way it kinda pinged me when I was reading back. Will look there later if I ever remember but probably won't.
Emcee Mikey or whatever is a pretty solid villager imo. Good start, Manasi.
AMA.
I have played a handful (~5-8ish) games with you. I used to have a long-term MTGS account that used my main Online-identity. During the drama with the female magic player where the SJWs went ballistic and this site wouldnt allow a two-sided conversation about it I decided to pull that account and have it deleted by curse so that my online-identity was not associated with this site anymore. Between that and some mafia in-game issues I took a breather for a while so that i didnt get pissy and make an ass of myself.
Ive been paying the most attention to those who I have played with, its early day 1 ya know? Im assuming you want real opinions on all of this, gimme a few hours and I will answer with more detail
And RE saw the same thing I did on ReverseRoot. Continuing to like RE.
Getting Town vibes from:
Kamikaze
Vezo
Killma
Getting Scum Vibes from
Mikey
Manasi
Cantrip
Tom
Everyone else is neutral so far
Vote Mikey
Mikey, you were the only person who every post made me feel like your just newb!scum and you are all over the place. Here is what I mean:
9- You ask Cantrip to be your friend
14- RVS vote, calling Tom a Liar
37- Guilt Tripping Cantrip about his comment about killing himself ingame,
41- Explained the vote on tom was because he was acting "weird" (Tom is tom lol)
62,63- Recanted the votes on Tom, but still says he is weird
74- Recanted about Tom being weird
82- Explains you have only played 1 game with Tom, and cant meta him, but he is acting weird?
87- Now Tom is town
118- You claim Manasi and Re are town, Vezo is scum
135- You vote Vezo, due to "self-restraint" but no explanation
154- What is this crap?
157- You double down on your vezo vote
160- Now cantrip is going to pocket you? when you tried to start the flirting???
168- No One took the cantrip bait, back to vezo
If anyone wants to know why I am reading anyone else a certain way, feel free to ask. Outside of a smoking gun my vote is staying on Mikey for the day
The mikey situation was RVS at first and it kinda grew out from under it. Im of the thought that the first 10 or so pages are RVS. As early in the day/game as it was I was mainly watching those I knew because I can usually pick up one player inparticulars scum game fairly well. My plan was to give a few more pages and do a re-read then when I had more than 1-2 posts from some people.
Since RE asked for my input, i just went ahead and did everything now
I'm seeing a huge bs misinterpretation of my progression on Tom and you're using it to fit your own whim rather than looking at it as a reasonable progression to make
Tom is weird
I voted for him because he's being weird
Tom is town
Voting for town is dumb
He's still weird
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I said who wantrs to be my friend and cantrip was the only one who responded lol I didn't call him out whatsoever
Yes cantrip is pocketing me
This is stupid. I shouldn't have to repeat myself. Go reread. And if you try to defend the same conclusion you arrived at here, it can only mean you're scum for being so obviously agenda driven
But there was no progression from voting because he was weird, to Tom is town.
What gets me the most with the Tom thing, is everyone know he plays crack-shot off the wall, how is it weird? Ive never seen him act any other way on day 1, its always something with him.
You are correct, I mis-typed my notes, he was the one who instigated it. But im reading him as scum too so either way its fine. What agenda do I have though? Waiting a few pages to get a feel for players I dont know? Answering someone who asked me a serious question?
what made you reach the conclusion of "eh probably town" for on Cantrip?
vote: Cantrip
Did you ever read any of his walls of text before voting him?
PROBABLY FINE IF MIKEY IS SCUM THOUGH.
Every excruciating word of them
you might note in the same post I lied about not reading them I asked if anyone caught an ounce of nuance in them which was a discreet suggestion towards the fact I've been reading all of his posts and think they're scum busywork
THAT SAID, I HAVE NOT READ HIS WALLS. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU IM USUALLY PRETTY GOOD AT READING HIM
1. Scum have daychat[/quote]
Looks like reverse root is just doing what his partners told him to
2. vezokpiraka- scum
3. tomsloger- town
4. kpaca- null
5. ReverseRoot- scum
6. ganderin_dan- null, get back to me on this
7. RE1031- town
8. Killmatronix- null?
9. Cantripmancer- paranoid tier
10. Emcee_Mikey- locktown
11. The Worst- null
12. Manasi- town
Manasi and Tom big town, re close behind
Of all the nulls I think the scummiest is kpaca for dropping that vote on me, but it's too on the nose to actually be true
I bet anything at least wolf is scum reading me right now, it's just too good to pass up
Tom, what I mean in plain english is any game ive played with you or any past game of yours I have read I have ALWAYS seen you do something goofy that made me feel you were scummy day 1, I am for the most part ignoring my read for a day or two so I can get a decent read on you thats not based on meta.
This is irony, I believe he is scum, but not doing busy work. Worst thinks he is scum doing busy work, and tom thinks he is doing busy work, regardless of alignment. This would be an interesting thing to bay-net after the game if we could get enough data compiled but to stay on topic cantrip is just all around a very seasoned player, no reason for him to do busy work as scum.
Looks like reverse root is just doing what his partners told him to[/quote]
Or anyone else who is scum? Doesnt have to be me ya know, but thats another wagon you have tried to get going buddy.
I think you're town so I'd be super super keen to hear what you think of his posting when you've had a chance to stare into his soul
fyi if you're not town you're required to claim immediately, it is against the Tom code to roll scum against another Tom as soon as you become friends. just saying.
speaking of which, ReverseRoot is one of the least exciting nullreads I've had in a while :/(
Looks like reverse root is just doing what his partners told him to[/quote]
this one