The post where they gave "town points" felt rigid and constructed.
Do you disagree with what I observed?
Why townread Rumanshi off that single post of his?
I never thought that wisp is nervous and rather than being uncomfortable in sharing his thoughts why not because theres no thoughts to share or nothing to talk about?
The post where they gave "town points" felt rigid and constructed.
Do you disagree with what I observed?
Why townread Rumanshi off that single post of his?
Whether or not I disagree with what you said is irrelevant to my read of you.
Rumanshi is town for turning an avenue of attack into a complaint. It instead tells more about Ru's character and how they're acknowledging their own bias in scumhunting. Thus it comes off as natural and emotionally connective, indicative of a town mindset.
I never thought that wisp is nervous and rather than being uncomfortable in sharing his thoughts why not because theres no thoughts to share or nothing to talk about?
im gunna hold off on saying anything more, because I have my ideas on what scum would do in certain situations tomorrow, and I dont want it being muddied from us or me talking about it
Further reinforced by me having to prod him to actually explain the reasoning for his reads.
But you did share your thoughts, right? On livion. Even leans are better than nothing at this point. There is nothing to talk about until you talk.
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Whether or not I disagree with what you said is irrelevant to my read of you.
Can you answer my question?
Rumanshi is town for turning an avenue of attack into a complaint. It instead tells more about Ru's character and how they're acknowledging their own bias in scumhunting. Thus it comes off as natural and emotionally connective, indicative of a town mindset.
I read it as the opposite. He threw in a thought but did nothing about it. "So what?" is my response to his post.
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I don't think I'll be doing that.
So far, my experience has been good, but I'm really still figuring things out. My personality can be a bit polarizing, and I tend to die before the endgame. My "best" game was as town, and I feel more comfortable there, but the time that I was mafia was more fun/interesting.
I asked for your games because I felt that response to Iso was townie but it was tonal and so fakeable. I wanted to see if it was something you were capable of as scum.
The post where they gave "town points" felt rigid and constructed.
Do you disagree with what I observed?
Why townread Rumanshi off that single post of his?
Whether or not I disagree with what you said is irrelevant to my read of you.
Rumanshi is town for turning an avenue of attack into a complaint. It instead tells more about Ru's character and how they're acknowledging their own bias in scumhunting. Thus it comes off as natural and emotionally connective, indicative of a town mindset.
I never thought that wisp is nervous and rather than being uncomfortable in sharing his thoughts why not because theres no thoughts to share or nothing to talk about?
im gunna hold off on saying anything more, because I have my ideas on what scum would do in certain situations tomorrow, and I dont want it being muddied from us or me talking about it
Further reinforced by me having to prod him to actually explain the reasoning for his reads.
But you did share your thoughts, right? On livion. Even leans are better than nothing at this point. There is nothing to talk about until you talk.
I just thought that wisp is nowhere near my power level
Anyway but he did vote me and his reasons doesn't seem like made up on the spot..
@Iso: Do you plan on being helpful at all?
I was under the impression that you were supposed to be good at this
this one prob town
I shared a similar reaction. Some town points to Shattiel and livion. Also shared a similar reaction to livion in response to Iso's posts so far but Shattiel feels more open about his thoughts, so Shattiel's a stronger read than livion.
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Anyway but he did vote me and his reasons doesn't seem like made up on the spot..
I mean, faked reads don't need to be made up on spot. And I don't entirely agree with his read, but I do like that he used his past experience with you as a basis.
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Anyway but he did vote me and his reasons doesn't seem like made up on the spot..
I mean, faked reads don't need to be made up on spot. And I don't entirely agree with his read, but I do like that he used his past experience with you as a basis.
well if he already had a reason prepared on hand why would he wait for someone to poke him and ask him to explain it?
This one prob a level 1 read but scum always like to attach reason than empty vote
Anyway but he did vote me and his reasons doesn't seem like made up on the spot..
I mean, faked reads don't need to be made up on spot. And I don't entirely agree with his read, but I do like that he used his past experience with you as a basis.
well if he already had a reason prepared on hand why would he wait for someone to poke him and ask him to explain it?
This one prob a level 1 read but scum always like to attach reason than empty vote
That is true. It only draws unnecessary attention to himself. I'm possibly irrationally paranoid because I feel like I always townread Wisp.
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@Iso: Do you plan on being helpful at all?
I was under the impression that you were supposed to be good at this
this one prob town
I shared a similar reaction. Some town points to Shattiel and livion. Also shared a similar reaction to livion in response to Iso's posts so far but Shattiel feels more open about his thoughts, so Shattiel's a stronger read than livion.
If I disagreed, I'd be gaslighting you. You're allowed to have opinions.
I need you explain what TR means, and why you feel that way this early into the game.
TR is townread. I believe Shattiel's posts are coming from a townie. If you disagree, feel free to explain why.
I'm not saying that I disagree, but that isn't really how this works. This seems really odd, because you go on to explain other reads you have made when asked, so why refuse to do so here?
Also to those who might know me I may play this one differently since it's a 2wk game so my play might be different than the usual not because I'm scum ofc
I want you to tell me exactly what about those two posts convinced you he is town.
god you're on point and I bet last is gonna hate you for that x)
Repeating reads that have already been made and agreed with, without providing any further basis? This is what passes as "on point" to you?
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Anyway but he did vote me and his reasons doesn't seem like made up on the spot..
I mean, faked reads don't need to be made up on spot. And I don't entirely agree with his read, but I do like that he used his past experience with you as a basis.
well if he already had a reason prepared on hand why would he wait for someone to poke him and ask him to explain it?
This one prob a level 1 read but scum always like to attach reason than empty vote
That is true. It only draws unnecessary attention to himself. I'm possibly irrationally paranoid because I feel like I always townread Wisp.
I'm kind of thinking someone in Slave/Iso/Rumanshi. If I'm being stingy I'll throw livion in there too, but mostly because what I feel from him is town is the way he's asking his questions and that could be something NAI.
Iso's been derping. I think he's better than that but we have a long phase?
Slave's vote on me felt a little opportunistic, and the way he's phrasing his reads suggests confidence that I think should be lacking at this point. But it is tonal.
Don't really like Rumanshi's pop ins. His only contribution so far has been an objective post that came to no conclusion about Iso.
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I need you explain what TR means, and why you feel that way this early into the game.
TR is townread. I believe Shattiel's posts are coming from a townie. If you disagree, feel free to explain why.
I'm not saying that I disagree, but that isn't really how this works. This seems really odd, because you go on to explain other reads you have made when asked, so why refuse to do so here?
Also to those who might know me I may play this one differently since it's a 2wk game so my play might be different than the usual not because I'm scum ofc
I want you to tell me exactly what about those two posts convinced you he is town.
If I disagreed, I'd be gaslighting you. You're allowed to have opinions.
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Are you saying you agree with my reads but dislike how I phrased them?
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
But I'm not asking about Wisp. My questioning of Wisp has a whole history you don't know about. I'm asking you about the post you specifically voted me for.
@Shattiel
Do you believe I'm scum?
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also in response to this again, this set up heavily benefits scum... counter claim battles on day 2 will be the biggest problem for sure, because there is no repercussions to anything, well very little imo
Worst outcomes:
1. gunsmith, checks the vigi, and we gotta then sort that out
2. Vigi/Scum shoots gunsmith, and that leaves us with very little info, other than a drop in PoE
im gunna hold off on saying anything more, because I have my ideas on what scum would do in certain situations tomorrow, and I dont want it being muddied from us or me talking about it
For the record, my observation of a nervous!Wisp comes from this post. In my experience, town!Wisp is usually unafraid to stand out whereas scum!Wisp (from games I was in like a year ago) was fairly lurkish. Here he seems kind of afraid to share his ideas, and not just because of the last sentence. Not to mention since it's about mechanics and so relatively objective, I would have expected more confident statements.
But I'm not a tonal reader. It's just easy to use tone.
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I'm kind of thinking someone in Slave/Iso/Rumanshi. If I'm being stingy I'll throw livion in there too, but mostly because what I feel from him is town is the way he's asking his questions and that could be something NAI.
Iso's been derping. I think he's better than that but we have a long phase?
Slave's vote on me felt a little opportunistic, and the way he's phrasing his reads suggests confidence that I think should be lacking at this point. But it is tonal.
Don't really like Rumanshi's pop ins. His only contribution so far has been an objective post that came to no conclusion about Iso.
This is more or less where I'm at, without clearing Lastwhisper yet. Would like to see more content from Iso and Rumanshi, and I think the problems I have with Slave may just be due to his attitude and not indicative of alignment.
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If I disagreed, I'd be gaslighting you. You're allowed to have opinions.
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Are you saying you agree with my reads but dislike how I phrased them?
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
You come across as being deliberately obtuse. Not only are you comically missing the point, but come on dude
You can disagree with someones opinion without trying to turn it into an existential crisis.
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smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
Honestly not in the mood for this site, after working almost 9 hours, I have the posts I want to comment on saved,
and I will post my thoughts on them tomorrow
before i go to sleep tho
RE For the record, my observation of a nervous!Wisp comes from this post. In my experience, town!Wisp is usually unafraid to stand out whereas scum!Wisp But I'm not a tonal reader.
and this is why
1. you saw one game where I lurked as mafia, and it had everything to do with a school and work (For example, AoT 2 Mafia, and Robot Mafia, I was very much vocal as mafia)
2. this has nothing to do with me being afraid to stand out, and everything to do with, tomorrow will be a nightmare, and thr less ideas the scum has planted in his mind, the better, and it makes it easier for me to spot them
and what you think I am afraid of planting ideas for you to use against me? lol
I'm kind of thinking someone in Slave/Iso/Rumanshi. If I'm being stingy I'll throw livion in there too, but mostly because what I feel from him is town is the way he's asking his questions and that could be something NAI.
Iso's been derping. I think he's better than that but we have a long phase?
Slave's vote on me felt a little opportunistic, and the way he's phrasing his reads suggests confidence that I think should be lacking at this point. But it is tonal.
Don't really like Rumanshi's pop ins. His only contribution so far has been an objective post that came to no conclusion about Iso.
This is more or less where I'm at, without clearing Lastwhisper yet. Would like to see more content from Iso and Rumanshi, and I think the problems I have with Slave may just be due to his attitude and not indicative of alignment.
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Rumanshi
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is this a list from towniest to scummiest?
I need context on this list
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
before i go to sleep tho
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and this is why
Possibly.
1. you saw one game where I lurked as mafia, and it had everything to do with a school and work (For example, AoT 2 Mafia, and Robot Mafia, I was very much vocal as mafia)
Your vocalness in AoT came from a stream of catch up posts. I remember misreading you badly in Robot, but I don't actually remember what you did. Yes, real life calls, but generally you are more inclined to post regardless as town whereas scum you seem to hate being in the thread and discussing. This is what I've observed, but from your perspective it may seem different. In games where I've not had time to play, I know I definitely post more as town than scum, and have used real life as an excuse to avoid posting.
2. this has nothing to do with me being afraid to stand out, and everything to do with, tomorrow will be a nightmare, and thr less ideas the scum has planted in his mind, the better, and it makes it easier for me to spot them
Well, I disagree with this. By calling out the opportunities scum might take to avoid being lynched, you limit their choices. By not discussing, you give them ways to excuse their mistakes. This is also advice for town - mechanically, there are better ways to play this and we don't have to rely purely on behavioral reads. Remember One Night Werewolf? Easy game for town, even easier if we had discussed how to play it prior so there wouldn't have been so much confusion over the claims.
and what you think I am afraid of planting ideas for you to use against me? lol
Not really. I hadn't gotten that far. It just seemed you were nervous overall to be talking in the thread, which pinged me.
And? I thought it was amusing because I was calling him "livion" and while I thought it sounded similar to "Oblivion," I didn't get the first part of it. Now I do. So what if it's useless? I'm not clogging up the thread with similar posts and I have been talking about the game. Don't know why you decided to call that post out specifically when there were other posts in the thread that fall into the same category either. Maybe you're annoyed with me.
I want to see where Slave goes with his reads, mostly with his read on me. I kind of like how he's given them(though less reliance on "genuine" would be nice - tonal reads have fairly low accuracy even with meta in hand) but what's more important to me is how they develop.
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Can you clarify? I take this to mean that you agree with the reads, but not necessarily with him, which doesn't reconcile with what you said.
eh maybe I would answer it if you also answered RE asking for your meta
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Refusing to explain your reads isn't help solve this.
I'm not convinced that meta is very helpful in general, and part of the reason I came here was to distance myself from what I have already built up and start fresh. I would appreciate if you guys would respect that.
I mean, I could've just lied and said I've never played, or I could've linked you to literally any profile with 3 completed games on any site just to placate you, since I've never used this name anywhere else
This is more or less where I'm at, without clearing Lastwhisper yet. Would like to see more content from Iso and Rumanshi, and I think the problems I have with Slave may just be due to his attitude and not indicative of alignment.
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is this a list from towniest to scummiest?
I need context on this list
Was that not obvious? Normally I would have added color to it to make it more so, but the reply box and preview functions haven't been working properly for me. let's see how this goes:
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smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
@Wisp you've played with riku before right? So far what do you think of him?
You're doing it again
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smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
Anyway I'm not gonna hostage my reads by on point I just meant mindmelds because the posts he pulled are also the ones that I get those town vibes.
Now what you did is just ***** all over his posts and call it "reads that have already been made and agreed" do you think that he just copied that post? If so why attack me not the person himself?
I respect the meta thing
I just encountered alot of people who played like you usually they would flip town but it isn't really that hard to fake I'm just trying to get a heads up of your range as wolf
I need you explain what TR means, and why you feel that way this early into the game.
TR is townread. I believe Shattiel's posts are coming from a townie. If you disagree, feel free to explain why.
I'm not saying that I disagree, but that isn't really how this works. This seems really odd, because you go on to explain other reads you have made when asked, so why refuse to do so here?
Also to those who might know me I may play this one differently since it's a 2wk game so my play might be different than the usual not because I'm scum ofc
I want you to tell me exactly what about those two posts convinced you he is town.
If I disagreed, I'd be gaslighting you. You're allowed to have opinions.
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Are you saying you agree with my reads but dislike how I phrased them?
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
But I'm not asking about Wisp. My questioning of Wisp has a whole history you don't know about. I'm asking you about the post you specifically voted me for.
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
But I'm not asking about Wisp. My questioning of Wisp has a whole history you don't know about. I'm asking you about the post you specifically voted me for.
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
But I'm not asking about Wisp. My questioning of Wisp has a whole history you don't know about. I'm asking you about the post you specifically voted me for.
@Iso: Do you plan on being helpful at all?
I was under the impression that you were supposed to be good at this
this one prob town
I shared a similar reaction. Some town points to Shattiel and livion. Also shared a similar reaction to livion in response to Iso's posts so far but Shattiel feels more open about his thoughts, so
Shattiel's a stronger read than livion.
I'm asking if you agree with it? Disagree? It has nothing to do with feelings and gaslighting. All I'm asking is if you disagree with my townreads/leans on 013livion and Shattiel, and if my reasoning for it was unjustified. Because from what I'm understanding, you're reading me off tone, and I want to see a lot more than that.
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Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
But I'm not asking about Wisp. My questioning of Wisp has a whole history you don't know about. I'm asking you about the post you specifically voted me for.
before i go to sleep tho
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and this is why
Possibly.
1. you saw one game where I lurked as mafia, and it had everything to do with a school and work (For example, AoT 2 Mafia, and Robot Mafia, I was very much vocal as mafia)
Your vocalness in AoT came from a stream of catch up posts. I remember misreading you badly in Robot, but I don't actually remember what you did. Yes, real life calls, but generally you are more inclined to post regardless as town whereas scum you seem to hate being in the thread and discussing. This is what I've observed, but from your perspective it may seem different. In games where I've not had time to play, I know I definitely post more as town than scum, and have used real life as an excuse to avoid posting.
2. this has nothing to do with me being afraid to stand out, and everything to do with, tomorrow will be a nightmare, and thr less ideas the scum has planted in his mind, the better, and it makes it easier for me to spot them
Well, I disagree with this. By calling out the opportunities scum might take to avoid being lynched, you limit their choices. By not discussing, you give them ways to excuse their mistakes. This is also advice for town - mechanically, there are better ways to play this and we don't have to rely purely on behavioral reads. Remember One Night Werewolf? Easy game for town, even easier if we had discussed how to play it prior so there wouldn't have been so much confusion over the claims.
and what you think I am afraid of planting ideas for you to use against me? lol
Not really. I hadn't gotten that far. It just seemed you were nervous overall to be talking in the thread, which pinged me.
And? I thought it was amusing because I was calling him "livion" and while I thought it sounded similar to "Oblivion," I didn't get the first part of it. Now I do. So what if it's useless? I'm not clogging up the thread with similar posts and I have been talking about the game. Don't know why you decided to call that post out specifically when there were other posts in the thread that fall into the same category either. Maybe you're annoyed with me.
I want to see where Slave goes with his reads, mostly with his read on me. I kind of like how he's given them(though less reliance on "genuine" would be nice - tonal reads have fairly low accuracy even with meta in hand) but what's more important to me is how they develop.
Sorry I only do tonal reads. Substance is less valuable to me than style.
@Iso: Do you plan on being helpful at all?
I was under the impression that you were supposed to be good at this
this one prob town
I shared a similar reaction. Some town points to Shattiel and livion. Also shared a similar reaction to livion in response to Iso's posts so far but Shattiel feels more open about his thoughts, so
Shattiel's a stronger read than livion.
I'm asking if you agree with it? Disagree? It has nothing to do with feelings and gaslighting. All I'm asking is if you disagree with my townreads/leans on 013livion and Shattiel, and if my reasoning for it was unjustified. Because from what I'm understanding, you're reading me off tone, and I want to see a lot more than that.
You can still answer my questions. How do you know you're not reading into something NAI when you're reading off the tone of someone you've never played with before?
The post should still show up but it'll take you to a bad page first.
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it is really hard to not scum read RE, I swear to god lol...
Also I voted Slave because of his over explanations yesterday/today , and the fact that hes kinda being uncooperative... hes probably the scum here
Can you clarify? I take this to mean that you agree with the reads, but not necessarily with him, which doesn't reconcile with what you said.
eh maybe I would answer it if you also answered RE asking for your meta
no it wasnt, but im glad you answered this, because it was one of my questions... also, who the hell puts scum at the top of the list, this irks me to know end
Rumanshi is town for turning an avenue of attack into a complaint. It instead tells more about Ru's character and how they're acknowledging their own bias in scumhunting. Thus it comes off as natural and emotionally connective, indicative of a town mindset.
But you did share your thoughts, right? On livion. Even leans are better than nothing at this point. There is nothing to talk about until you talk.
@Slave
Why do you say you disagree? I also thought that this post made livion fairly townie.
I just thought that wisp is nowhere near my power levelAnyway but he did vote me and his reasons doesn't seem like made up on the spot..
This one prob a level 1 read but scum always like to attach reason than empty vote
I'm not saying that I disagree, but that isn't really how this works. This seems really odd, because you go on to explain other reads you have made when asked, so why refuse to do so here?
Shattiel only had 2 posts when you made yours:
I want you to tell me exactly what about those two posts convinced you he is town.
Repeating reads that have already been made and agreed with, without providing any further basis? This is what passes as "on point" to you?
smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
Iso's been derping. I think he's better than that but we have a long phase?
Slave's vote on me felt a little opportunistic, and the way he's phrasing his reads suggests confidence that I think should be lacking at this point. But it is tonal.
Don't really like Rumanshi's pop ins. His only contribution so far has been an objective post that came to no conclusion about Iso.
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
@Shattiel
Do you believe I'm scum?
But I'm not a tonal reader. It's just easy to use tone.
Can you clarify? I take this to mean that you agree with the reads, but not necessarily with him, which doesn't reconcile with what you said.
This is more or less where I'm at, without clearing Lastwhisper yet. Would like to see more content from Iso and Rumanshi, and I think the problems I have with Slave may just be due to his attitude and not indicative of alignment.
Lastwhisper
Slave
Iso
Rumanshi
Shattiel
RE
O13livion
You come across as being deliberately obtuse. Not only are you comically missing the point, but come on dude
You can disagree with someones opinion without trying to turn it into an existential crisis.
smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
and I will post my thoughts on them tomorrow
RE
For the record, my observation of a nervous!Wisp comes from this post. In my experience, town!Wisp is usually unafraid to stand out whereas scum!Wisp
But I'm not a tonal reader.
and this is why
1. you saw one game where I lurked as mafia, and it had everything to do with a school and work (For example, AoT 2 Mafia, and Robot Mafia, I was very much vocal as mafia)
2. this has nothing to do with me being afraid to stand out, and everything to do with, tomorrow will be a nightmare, and thr less ideas the scum has planted in his mind, the better, and it makes it easier for me to spot them
and what you think I am afraid of planting ideas for you to use against me? lol
also
posts like this are useless
Whats your opinion on Slave so far?
tomorrow I wake up and go straight to work, so dont expect anything till late evening from me
is this a list from towniest to scummiest?
I need context on this list
I want to see where Slave goes with his reads, mostly with his read on me. I kind of like how he's given them(though less reliance on "genuine" would be nice - tonal reads have fairly low accuracy even with meta in hand) but what's more important to me is how they develop.
If I crossed a line, or neared it, my bad, but I need to know where it is.
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Refusing to explain your reads isn't help solve this.
I'm not convinced that meta is very helpful in general, and part of the reason I came here was to distance myself from what I have already built up and start fresh. I would appreciate if you guys would respect that.
I mean, I could've just lied and said I've never played, or I could've linked you to literally any profile with 3 completed games on any site just to placate you, since I've never used this name anywhere else
Was that not obvious? Normally I would have added color to it to make it more so, but the reply box and preview functions haven't been working properly for me. let's see how this goes:
Lastwhisper
Slave
Iso
Rumanshi
Shattiel
RE
O13livion
smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
You're doing it again
smoke a hundred grams like it ain't nothin, I got a mouth full of space nuggets, give me a second and I'll be huntin for martians or a trace of 'em
me, Charlie, and Dennis, we been paint huffin, it's Always Sunny when you're baked like a cake oven
Anyway I'm not gonna hostage my reads by on point I just meant mindmelds because the posts he pulled are also the ones that I get those town vibes.
Now what you did is just ***** all over his posts and call it "reads that have already been made and agreed" do you think that he just copied that post? If so why attack me not the person himself?
I respect the meta thing
I just encountered alot of people who played like you usually they would flip town but it isn't really that hard to fake I'm just trying to get a heads up of your range as wolf
Riku is rumanshi
Im saying that your read is your read. I can't disagree that you felt that way. If I did, that would be gaslighting. Only you are allowed to say how you feel, nobody else. If someone tries to deny that you felt a particular way, that can cause a person to question reality -- that's what gaslighting is. You could ask me if i feel the same way as you, to which I would say I don't, and I believe I already have up there at some point. But if I'm mistaken, then no, I don't feel the same way as you, I don't feel like Whisper is nervous.
This is the post where you voted me and gave a short explanation as to why:
This is the post you referred to:I'm asking if you agree with it? Disagree? It has nothing to do with feelings and gaslighting. All I'm asking is if you disagree with my townreads/leans on 013livion and Shattiel, and if my reasoning for it was unjustified. Because from what I'm understanding, you're reading me off tone, and I want to see a lot more than that.
The post should still show up but it'll take you to a bad page first.
I'll be around in 4 hours or so, another long shift
Also I voted Slave because of his over explanations yesterday/today , and the fact that hes kinda being uncooperative... hes probably the scum hereno it wasnt, but im glad you answered this, because it was one of my questions... also, who the hell puts scum at the top of the list, this irks me to know end