I still don't really have anything on anak.
His main focus has been... me kinda. More specifically other peoples' reads on me?
At least that's what it feels like.
And... Idk it's kinda townie given our history like I'm going to read him correctly given enough time and he knows this.
But at the same time he also knows I can take care of myself so some vague pockety vibes and he doesn't seem to have any kind of read on me himself (which to be fair is perfectly reasonable) but also hasn't, like, looked like he's really looking at the alignment the bad pushes come from just sort of responding to them.
Like, shin is one thing can't really say that's easily grokkable but the vezok one he called "poor and opportunistic" but came with no pressure on vez that was still just commentary basically
I think I'm gonna put him as a light scumread aorn. Would have expected... not exactly stronger but more forceful posts from town anak by now. It's kinda meh because quite a lot of this game has been... difficult to wade through and relatively meaningless... tbh. But it's still a thing.
But what I'm really hoping for is town anak reads this and realizes he has to do more and comes out with a solid flurry of posts that I can really get my head around and prove him town and we can ride off into the sunset together
(Or that scumanak attempts to fake the above and I can nail him to the wall)
@DV: Team says that you post real thoughts, and they like your determination and subtlety from posts like #62. They gave no real reason for Cantrip, but I'm assuming it's the same reason as me.
I'm more of a reactive person than proactive. The only people posting in thread are tom, Shinichi, Kanji and you. I'm townreading all of you so I don't really feel like I need to discuss anything with these people. I was waiting for the other people.
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Visor/rwso is possibly the best mafia player in this game. Whatever that means.
Oh wait that's turbos, not mtgs phases...
I know he's played here before and did pretty well, but afaik he's never wolfed in long phases. I have... some predictions of what that might look like, with some solid meta and a decent understanding of his approach to back it up.
And I'm just not seeing it.
Read stays at "about as strong town as id ever be willing to put him this early"
And that comparison to Newcomb that i talked about with my team from the real time
It definitely grades on a curve. Probably all 3 of us are expecting way too much from Newcomb if I'm being honest.
Even saying he's been meh or whelming feels wrong because... Newcomb. He's fantastic.
But...he said kanji was all sizzle and no steak...
Well
Where's the ******* steak Newcomb?
The lightest of scumreads.
It's, like, barely there if you looked at it from a few feet away it would just be on the null line but if you get real close it's below it
BTW, only reason I said both you + Tom were defending newcomb was cause the thread was quiet til I voted newcomb then I got a bunch of reasons against it LOL.
Like why are you acting like you just got caught? Couldn't it have been tom? HAHAHAHAHAH
Manasi I'm basically skating on associations. Don't think shes said a whole lot that moves the needle for me but I've already got a pretty decent idea of what the scumteam would look like if she's on it.
I'm still not actually townreading her for anything in particular but that team is fairly narrow so she's still >randtown
DV I'm getting back to a point of comfort a little. The last bit of exchange made me realize we more differ in defining the parameters of our argument-- the terminology were using, whatever-- than the huge ideological difference it seemed like we were having. I still think he's ~wrong but... less wrong I guess.
And... yeah he still looks town to me yes just flowed from one thing to the next really naturally there's been times when we predicted in team chat that scumDV would have sunk his teeth in and he changed direction instead every time. Think his big wall looked pretty good on first glance I'll probably read it again and see if there's anything I want to talk about but keeping him in med-high town
tom I'm sorry but everyting you're typing seems like NAI BS and it's doing nothing for me. Can you tell me your read on me?
I'm mostly thinking "out loud"
And it mostly is
Doesn't help that my two strongest scumreads are afk and [in a different game]
Think you're town.
Less strongly than visor/DV, more than, like, manasi/nacho (who I've got at light town against my own advice)
Definitely mitigated a bit by the same thing I just said about shin: it's super easy to fake nonsense.
But in you I see a fair amount more conviction, Which is a strange thing to say when your vote means about as much as a parasol in a meteor shower and yet...
BTW, only reason I said both you + Tom were defending newcomb was cause the thread was quiet til I voted newcomb then I got a bunch of reasons against it LOL.
Like why are you acting like you just got caught? Couldn't it have been tom? HAHAHAHAHAH
How can you accuse me and tom of defending Newcomb when you haven't even attacked him?
I find Newcomb incredibly hard to read. I thought I'll leave him to night actions or PoE, but you started claiming that you think he is scum and I wanted to see your reasons to decide for myself. Instead you accuse me of defending him which only happened in your made up world.
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I don't hate DVs conclusion that it's lurkers.
I find myself with all lurkers and Newcomb below the null line, and I'm usually not big on shruggy lurker lynches. It's not the best...
There's definitely worlds where most of those lurkers are town, but it kinda feels like we'd have to learn that the hard way...
Ugh they should just post and we can shrug lynch shin instead for that sweet sweet ~rand chance he flips scum and [much higher) chance that we have a great time lynching him regardless
That last sentence was solidly 75% sarcastic and might have been the most AI thing I've said this game
Who's defending Newcomb? Can you give some well thought out reasons why Newcomb is scum?
I just realised I have only 14 posts. Imma start spamming the thread to get that number up.
Haha yeah, the fact that you reacted negatively to me and newcomb also seems to LOLpost threatening to just lynch someone randomly at EOD.
Zero effort to solve the game.
Why are you defending them?
What does this post even mean?
Haha you might've missed it but I responded to both you and tom right after you guys both posted, trying to see who would take the bait. And you ended up being the one taking it so GG.
Thanks for falling for the trap. Better luck next time.
As for the zero effort to solve the game that reflects doubly on you and newcomb. AFAIK all you did is call me town (highly obvious) and newcomb has literally contributed F all but post chaotic posts and MTG cards.
How can you accuse me and tom of defending Newcomb when you haven't even attacked him?
I find Newcomb incredibly hard to read. I thought I'll leave him to night actions or PoE, but you started claiming that you think he is scum and I wanted to see your reasons to decide for myself. Instead you accuse me of defending him which only happened in your made up world.
This is an extremely tryhard post and you should embrace the fact that you + newcomb just got owned.
First off you accuse me of not trying to make an attack, then you make up reasons why you wouldn't follow me. Real nice. LOL.
Eh, sure.
Don't really understand your trap but looks like a guilty conscience and he seems vaguely scummy and also I'm tired of waiting for cantrip vote: vezokpiraka
I thought hia little gambit about voting me was too short lived. He got one response.
Like, I just saw townvezok toy with a scumteam in lylo long enough that they would have won if their third member showed up why is he immediately moving on?
"Worried about how he looks" isn't exactly a rock solid scumtell. But a bit of pressure, perhaps diminished by me substantially overexplaining, wouldn't hurt.
Rwso
Dv
Kanji
Manasi
Nacho
Shin
Newcomb
Anak
Vezok
Cantrip
These colors are not accurate. None of my reads are particularly strong/high confidence
These colors are pretty though, and I just so happened to have just ranked everyone in order of towniness
This is a prod dodge with a bit of game advancing content so I don't get replaced. I'll be here tomorrow, I'm just getting all my ducks in a row before Daddy Comes Home.
Newcomb, my team has an extremely confident read on you. Can you tell me what that read is?
I thought hia little gambit about voting me was too short lived. He got one response.
Like, I just saw townvezok toy with a scumteam in lylo long enough that they would have won if their third member showed up why is he immediately moving on?
"Worried about how he looks" isn't exactly a rock solid scumtell. But a bit of pressure, perhaps diminished by me substantially overexplaining, wouldn't hurt.
Lolwut? I took the exact same time here as I took in Friends and Enemies. I posted the "gambit" post just before going to sleep and posted the reveal when I woke up.
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Wanted to acknowledge that I agreed with Newcombs post
Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
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Newcomb, my team has an extremely confident read on you. Can you tell me what that read is?
I can't imagine this question being useful in any universe
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Newcomb, my team has an extremely confident read on you. Can you tell me what that read is?
I can't imagine this question being useful in any universe
Manasi solve the game overnight please kthx
I like this person.
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Wanted to acknowledge that I agreed with Newcombs post
Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
For my own ego's sake, what did you even expect from me this game? Spamming? I don't understand where I'm not performing for you and I really don't understand why you would have somehow set me to a high standard within the last like 3 games we've played together. I can't help but think that you might be saying that to (effectively) guilt trip me into some kinda pocket but that's just me reaching for scum reads. Re-reading and trying to find inconsistencies/wolves one sec.
Okay so I think my most comfortable town read RN is Newcomb. Little meta suggestions from team seems to point to him just being town. Kanji town, don't want to touch it any more than that.
Reading DV again, I think that his post getting frustrated at tom's playing (comparing everything to Nacho) could actually be a little scummy. It seems so ******* hard to wolf in this setting where there are hours and hours between posts and people have a lot of time to think about things, so I feel like in a game where not much has happened to latch onto, DV has latched onto stuff in a scummy way.
Conversely, as I've said before, I think Shinichi's reactions to tom and his play make them seem more towny. I don't know much about tom's alignment because his typical play is to pocket me early and then shade scum a little for a few days, so I'm hesitant to lock in a town read there given his nonchalance through the thread.
Really excited for Nacho to come back because I'm really REALLY wanting to townread him. Probably a bad way of looking at it but I think that it'd be easier for me to solve the game if I have a firm town read on someone who I'm not comfortable with/interact with often.
I guess that could be said for anyone who hasn't posted that much too, but I think that of all of them, it'll be easier to find a villager in Nacho. Gonna look into cantrip/vezok/beeboy/Anak even though I'm not sure what I'm gonna get there. Gonna try to avoid multiposting so there will probably just be one more before I dip for the day.
Okay so I think my most comfortable town read RN is Newcomb. Little meta suggestions from team seems to point to him just being town. Kanji town, don't want to touch it any more than that.
Reading DV again, I think that his post getting frustrated at tom's playing (comparing everything to Nacho) could actually be a little scummy. It seems so ******* hard to wolf in this setting where there are hours and hours between posts and people have a lot of time to think about things, so I feel like in a game where not much has happened to latch onto, DV has latched onto stuff in a scummy way.
Conversely, as I've said before, I think Shinichi's reactions to tom and his play make them seem more towny. I don't know much about tom's alignment because his typical play is to pocket me early and then shade scum a little for a few days, so I'm hesitant to lock in a town read there given his nonchalance through the thread.
It's like you are not even reading the game.
10/10
Are you just purposefully ignoring things or just bad?
Wanted to acknowledge that I agreed with Newcombs post
Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
For my own ego's sake, what did you even expect from me this game? Spamming? I don't understand where I'm not performing for you and I really don't understand why you would have somehow set me to a high standard within the last like 3 games we've played together. I can't help but think that you might be saying that to (effectively) guilt trip me into some kinda pocket but that's just me reaching for scum reads. Re-reading and trying to find inconsistencies/wolves one sec.
**** a site with no ISO tool.
There is an Iso tool click on the post count next to the thread.
I thought hia little gambit about voting me was too short lived. He got one response.
Like, I just saw townvezok toy with a scumteam in lylo long enough that they would have won if their third member showed up why is he immediately moving on?
"Worried about how he looks" isn't exactly a rock solid scumtell. But a bit of pressure, perhaps diminished by me substantially overexplaining, wouldn't hurt.
Lolwut? I took the exact same time here as I took in Friends and Enemies. I posted the "gambit" post just before going to sleep and posted the reveal when I woke up.
ok so the last one outed a scumteam.
What did this one do?
It's not really about the time it's about the results why not wait for more people to comment? And what you think of anak responding?
Wanted to acknowledge that I agreed with Newcombs post
Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
For my own ego's sake, what did you even expect from me this game? Spamming? I don't understand where I'm not performing for you and I really don't understand why you would have somehow set me to a high standard within the last like 3 games we've played together. I can't help but think that you might be saying that to (effectively) guilt trip me into some kinda pocket but that's just me reaching for scum reads. Re-reading and trying to find inconsistencies/wolves one sec.
**** a site with no ISO tool.
There is an Iso tool click on the post count next to the thread.
It's bacccccckwards though. I guess it will do. Sorry if that previous post was upsetting lol, I was skimming through stuff. If you want I can find some of the posts I was talking about but it doesn't seem to be worth it
Wanted to acknowledge that I agreed with Newcombs post
Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
For my own ego's sake, what did you even expect from me this game? Spamming? I don't understand where I'm not performing for you and I really don't understand why you would have somehow set me to a high standard within the last like 3 games we've played together. I can't help but think that you might be saying that to (effectively) guilt trip me into some kinda pocket but that's just me reaching for scum reads. Re-reading and trying to find inconsistencies/wolves one sec.
**** a site with no ISO tool.
There is an Iso tool click on the post count next to the thread.
It's bacccccckwards though. I guess it will do. Sorry if that previous post was upsetting lol, I was skimming through stuff. If you want I can find some of the posts I was talking about but it doesn't seem to be worth it
I'm certain they exist. I'm also certain you haven't read the last page.
You going to ever be caught up this game or just half ***** post/ not try?
Wanted to acknowledge that I agreed with Newcombs post
Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
For my own ego's sake, what did you even expect from me this game? Spamming? I don't understand where I'm not performing for you and I really don't understand why you would have somehow set me to a high standard within the last like 3 games we've played together. I can't help but think that you might be saying that to (effectively) guilt trip me into some kinda pocket but that's just me reaching for scum reads. Re-reading and trying to find inconsistencies/wolves one sec.
**** a site with no ISO tool.
There is an Iso tool click on the post count next to the thread.
It's bacccccckwards though. I guess it will do. Sorry if that previous post was upsetting lol, I was skimming through stuff. If you want I can find some of the posts I was talking about but it doesn't seem to be worth it
I'm certain they exist. I'm also certain you haven't read the last page.
You going to ever be caught up this game or just half ***** post/ not try?
I skimmed the last page pretty aggressively. No need to shade dude, I've been caught up for like two hours heheh.
Wanted to acknowledge that I agreed with Newcombs post
Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
For my own ego's sake, what did you even expect from me this game? Spamming? I don't understand where I'm not performing for you and I really don't understand why you would have somehow set me to a high standard within the last like 3 games we've played together. I can't help but think that you might be saying that to (effectively) guilt trip me into some kinda pocket but that's just me reaching for scum reads. Re-reading and trying to find inconsistencies/wolves one sec.
**** a site with no ISO tool.
I'm not sure how you coke up with any sort of genuine pocket read tbh
You seemed pretty excited for the game pregame, talked it up, talked about wanting to play a game with long phases, scrounged your own team together etc.
And you pop in every now and then and offer three middling posts with some conclusions with a bit of writing. Idk I expected you to do more, not necessarily leading but trying to engage more with people. You went to the trouble of reading up games that you had subbed into to have prewritten wall posts (anni) and I believe some recent game you wrote a post overnight (could still be anni lol Idr). Obv we aren't in those situations and I wouldn't expect you to do it this game but I think our recent games offer some insight.
There are probably plenty of good reasons for why you are more of a background player this game and some of them might be good but idrc. Have you done things you think are alignment indicative for yourself?
I'm not expecting you to go full 200 post, I definitely didn't expect spam I just expected idk, some ***** I could latch onto and say she definitely cares about solving the game in a genuine fashion.
Wanted to acknowledge that I agreed with Newcombs post
Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
For my own ego's sake, what did you even expect from me this game? Spamming? I don't understand where I'm not performing for you and I really don't understand why you would have somehow set me to a high standard within the last like 3 games we've played together. I can't help but think that you might be saying that to (effectively) guilt trip me into some kinda pocket but that's just me reaching for scum reads. Re-reading and trying to find inconsistencies/wolves one sec.
**** a site with no ISO tool.
I'm not sure how you coke up with any sort of genuine pocket read tbh
You seemed pretty excited for the game pregame, talked it up, talked about wanting to play a game with long phases, scrounged your own team together etc.
And you pop in every now and then and offer three middling posts with some conclusions with a bit of writing. Idk I expected you to do more, not necessarily leading but trying to engage more with people. You went to the trouble of reading up games that you had subbed into to have prewritten wall posts (anni) and I believe some recent game you wrote a post overnight (could still be anni lol Idr). Obv we aren't in those situations and I wouldn't expect you to do it this game but I think our recent games offer some insight.
There are probably plenty of good reasons for why you are more of a background player this game and some of them might be good but idrc. Have you done things you think are alignment indicative for yourself?
I duno it's pretty obv that I hold your opinion of me pretty highly.
Yeah I dunno, some things haven't really been working out and you know some of it and don't know the rest of it. I'm trying to play through that but I feel like my interactions with other people are like, really stifled/muted because everyone I want to interact with is just normally talking around me as opposed to talking to me and I'm not reawlly sure how to deal with that so I've been taking a pretty passive approach. Like, the first two times people talked about me it was like tom talking about me/nacho then people talking about that, and then you/newcomb talking about me while I was asleep/OOT. Think I'm struggling more than I expected to ge interested enough to actively try and engage with people making reads/conversations like that because it's harder to like, have a thought process stay more consistent when you have a thought and then read through the rest of that already completed conversation. Both of the posts you're talking about are probably the same anni post hahah. That one that everyone loved.
I don't know if I've done super alignment indicative things, I know I'm definitely playing similarly to what I guess would be something lower-posting (see: games on the org or something, but those aren't the best standard because I was trash on that site). ANd I think I'm also looking at posts in a similar way to which I read anni with, though that was a lot faster and more conducive to real conversations.
tl;dr hard to engage when being talked about rather than to, passive approach bc lots of ***** going on/not a lot of feedback on thoughts etc etc blahhhhhhhh you know me better than I do
I'll go fix some of my own self inflicted problems by responding to DV's questions lol
So you're just ignoring the questions I asked you?
Or did you not bother reading anything I wrote?
I'm gonna probably unfortunately lean towards the latter. Fixing that now!
Oh. Wait, your only question that I didn't respond to was why my read on Newcomb changed? LOL, oh god. You thought I actually had a scum read on like a 2poster when I voted him super early? When I said it was an intentional vote I definitely was being sarcastic. I think that Newcomb's play has been super comfortably towny. Said that earlier as well after getting some slight input from my team. Kinda convinced me that my initial inclination was correct.
So you're just ignoring the questions I asked you?
Or did you not bother reading anything I wrote?
I'm gonna probably unfortunately lean towards the latter. Fixing that now!
Oh. Wait, your only question that I didn't respond to was why my read on Newcomb changed? LOL, oh god. You thought I actually had a scum read on like a 2poster when I voted him super early? When I said it was an intentional vote I definitely was being sarcastic. I think that Newcomb's play has been super comfortably towny. Said that earlier as well after getting some slight input from my team. Kinda convinced me that my initial inclination was correct.
It just bothers me that you are voting me without reading anything I had written.
Its like you are not even trying.
Its clear you didn't read that post I made, but then tried to push onto me.
Nice wall post that looks hard but basically says nothing.
No way that post suddenly comes from a town player given the current circumstances of the vote counts.
You're trying to do something and divert attention to someone else. Congrats you got it. It's noted that the post came after I voted tom, btw.
Now let's see what happens.
No scum aligned player would actually take the time to write that and what town aligned player would even think to say hey that post must be from scum.
So
Shin still can't produce anything about me overreacting, or even reacting.
He backed off me when called out.
Backed off the back off when called on it
Seemed to know I'm town commenting on when I said haven't posted anything I wouldnt post as scum (this one is dumb but it still registered)
Basically is doing everything he can to push me, and I literally dare anyone to find anything valid in those pushes
And I can't tell if he's scum or just unfathomably shallow as a mafia player.
Think my official stance, with some input, is "null but would happily lynch anyway"
I see people townreading. I think it's mostly for twtbaw or "he's just so free" type reads but I don't really buy that because...
When you're spewing nonsense it doesn't matter what inside info you have.
I think I'm just gonna keep laughing about him with my team and stop posting about him in thread.
I gave you want you wanted though, its not my fault ur choosing to call it crap lmfao. Get over yourself, if your town you really are hurting your chances for anyone to town read you. You're way to hung up on that and now you actually are starting to overreact yet again.
Visor/rwso is possibly the best mafia player in this game. Whatever that means.
Oh wait that's turbos, not mtgs phases...
I know he's played here before and did pretty well, but afaik he's never wolfed in long phases. I have... some predictions of what that might look like, with some solid meta and a decent understanding of his approach to back it up.
And I'm just not seeing it.
Read stays at "about as strong town as id ever be willing to put him this early"
And that comparison to Newcomb that i talked about with my team from the real time
It definitely grades on a curve. Probably all 3 of us are expecting way too much from Newcomb if I'm being honest.
Even saying he's been meh or whelming feels wrong because... Newcomb. He's fantastic.
But...he said kanji was all sizzle and no steak...
Well
Where's the ******* steak Newcomb?
The lightest of scumreads.
It's, like, barely there if you looked at it from a few feet away it would just be on the null line but if you get real close it's below it
Something about the this post strikes odd to me and i get the feeling if one of i scum the other might be close by. Its like you really want to scum read newcomb but at the same time your either afraid to because your scum so you cant prove it or your low key trying to push yourself away from him cause hes ur partner.
Ill keep an eye on your interactions.
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His main focus has been... me kinda. More specifically other peoples' reads on me?
At least that's what it feels like.
And... Idk it's kinda townie given our history like I'm going to read him correctly given enough time and he knows this.
But at the same time he also knows I can take care of myself so some vague pockety vibes and he doesn't seem to have any kind of read on me himself (which to be fair is perfectly reasonable) but also hasn't, like, looked like he's really looking at the alignment the bad pushes come from just sort of responding to them.
Like, shin is one thing can't really say that's easily grokkable but the vezok one he called "poor and opportunistic" but came with no pressure on vez that was still just commentary basically
I think I'm gonna put him as a light scumread aorn. Would have expected... not exactly stronger but more forceful posts from town anak by now. It's kinda meh because quite a lot of this game has been... difficult to wade through and relatively meaningless... tbh. But it's still a thing.
But what I'm really hoping for is town anak reads this and realizes he has to do more and comes out with a solid flurry of posts that I can really get my head around and prove him town and we can ride off into the sunset together
(Or that scumanak attempts to fake the above and I can nail him to the wall)
Glgl
I'm more of a reactive person than proactive. The only people posting in thread are tom, Shinichi, Kanji and you. I'm townreading all of you so I don't really feel like I need to discuss anything with these people. I was waiting for the other people.
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Who's defending Newcomb? Can you give some well thought out reasons why Newcomb is scum?
I just realised I have only 14 posts. Imma start spamming the thread to get that number up.
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Oh wait that's turbos, not mtgs phases...
I know he's played here before and did pretty well, but afaik he's never wolfed in long phases. I have... some predictions of what that might look like, with some solid meta and a decent understanding of his approach to back it up.
And I'm just not seeing it.
Read stays at "about as strong town as id ever be willing to put him this early"
And that comparison to Newcomb that i talked about with my team from the real time
It definitely grades on a curve. Probably all 3 of us are expecting way too much from Newcomb if I'm being honest.
Even saying he's been meh or whelming feels wrong because... Newcomb. He's fantastic.
But...he said kanji was all sizzle and no steak...
Well
Where's the ******* steak Newcomb?
The lightest of scumreads.
It's, like, barely there if you looked at it from a few feet away it would just be on the null line but if you get real close it's below it
Haha yeah, the fact that you reacted negatively to me and newcomb also seems to LOLpost threatening to just lynch someone randomly at EOD.
Zero effort to solve the game.
Why are you defending them?
BTW, only reason I said both you + Tom were defending newcomb was cause the thread was quiet til I voted newcomb then I got a bunch of reasons against it LOL.
Like why are you acting like you just got caught? Couldn't it have been tom? HAHAHAHAHAH
I'm still not actually townreading her for anything in particular but that team is fairly narrow so she's still >randtown
DV I'm getting back to a point of comfort a little. The last bit of exchange made me realize we more differ in defining the parameters of our argument-- the terminology were using, whatever-- than the huge ideological difference it seemed like we were having. I still think he's ~wrong but... less wrong I guess.
And... yeah he still looks town to me yes just flowed from one thing to the next really naturally there's been times when we predicted in team chat that scumDV would have sunk his teeth in and he changed direction instead every time. Think his big wall looked pretty good on first glance I'll probably read it again and see if there's anything I want to talk about but keeping him in med-high town
Get it in before you lose homies.
tom I'm sorry but everyting you're typing seems like NAI BS and it's doing nothing for me. Can you tell me your read on me?
And it mostly is
Doesn't help that my two strongest scumreads are afk and [in a different game]
Think you're town.
Less strongly than visor/DV, more than, like, manasi/nacho (who I've got at light town against my own advice)
Definitely mitigated a bit by the same thing I just said about shin: it's super easy to fake nonsense.
But in you I see a fair amount more conviction, Which is a strange thing to say when your vote means about as much as a parasol in a meteor shower and yet...
Who reads me scum here. No balls?
What does this post even mean?
How can you accuse me and tom of defending Newcomb when you haven't even attacked him?
I find Newcomb incredibly hard to read. I thought I'll leave him to night actions or PoE, but you started claiming that you think he is scum and I wanted to see your reasons to decide for myself. Instead you accuse me of defending him which only happened in your made up world.
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I find myself with all lurkers and Newcomb below the null line, and I'm usually not big on shruggy lurker lynches. It's not the best...
There's definitely worlds where most of those lurkers are town, but it kinda feels like we'd have to learn that the hard way...
Ugh they should just post and we can shrug lynch shin instead for that sweet sweet ~rand chance he flips scum and [much higher) chance that we have a great time lynching him regardless
That last sentence was solidly 75% sarcastic and might have been the most AI thing I've said this game
Haha you might've missed it but I responded to both you and tom right after you guys both posted, trying to see who would take the bait. And you ended up being the one taking it so GG.
Thanks for falling for the trap. Better luck next time.
Vote: vezokpiraka
Get owned kids.
You as well tom
This is an extremely tryhard post and you should embrace the fact that you + newcomb just got owned.
First off you accuse me of not trying to make an attack, then you make up reasons why you wouldn't follow me. Real nice. LOL.
Don't really understand your trap but looks like a guilty conscience and he seems vaguely scummy and also I'm tired of waiting for cantrip
vote: vezokpiraka
Why are you suddenly agreeing with me.
I thought hia little gambit about voting me was too short lived. He got one response.
Like, I just saw townvezok toy with a scumteam in lylo long enough that they would have won if their third member showed up why is he immediately moving on?
"Worried about how he looks" isn't exactly a rock solid scumtell. But a bit of pressure, perhaps diminished by me substantially overexplaining, wouldn't hurt.
Dv
Kanji
Manasi
Nacho
Shin
Newcomb
Anak
Vezok
Cantrip
These colors are not accurate. None of my reads are particularly strong/high confidence
These colors are pretty though, and I just so happened to have just ranked everyone in order of towniness
That's 10. I'm missing a slot.
Can't imagine why.
Newcomb, my team has an extremely confident read on you. Can you tell me what that read is?
Lolwut? I took the exact same time here as I took in Friends and Enemies. I posted the "gambit" post just before going to sleep and posted the reveal when I woke up.
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Feels like the d1 of a cfc game where everyone checks in and does nothing. Obviously that's not accurate here but in terms results it's feeling that way
I got thoughts but I just wanna do anything but think about ww rn.
Disappointed with manasi tbh. Idk maybe I expected too much.
Kanji still doing his thing is villagery and team think so too.
Team loled at shinichi
Has beeboy even posted since he popped in?
In a large number of world's here I'm just gonna lynch cantrip or beeboy for just not posting and if they flip villa idc.
Bottom 3-4 is still anak, manasi, dv and now vezokpiraka. Cooling a little on dv/respecting teams read on vezokpiraka to switch places probably. Expected these guys to have posted something to at least make me reconsider a bit but just nothing.
Tom, newcomb, give me your best lynch options and I'll probably just sponge it.
Lmao
Manasi solve the game overnight please kthx
I like this person.
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Boring post. You can't pocket people by throwing pennies at their face. At least aim a little lower.
Where did you go to school?
LOL
**** a site with no ISO tool.
Reading DV again, I think that his post getting frustrated at tom's playing (comparing everything to Nacho) could actually be a little scummy. It seems so ******* hard to wolf in this setting where there are hours and hours between posts and people have a lot of time to think about things, so I feel like in a game where not much has happened to latch onto, DV has latched onto stuff in a scummy way.
Conversely, as I've said before, I think Shinichi's reactions to tom and his play make them seem more towny. I don't know much about tom's alignment because his typical play is to pocket me early and then shade scum a little for a few days, so I'm hesitant to lock in a town read there given his nonchalance through the thread.
I guess that could be said for anyone who hasn't posted that much too, but I think that of all of them, it'll be easier to find a villager in Nacho. Gonna look into cantrip/vezok/beeboy/Anak even though I'm not sure what I'm gonna get there. Gonna try to avoid multiposting so there will probably just be one more before I dip for the day.
Vote: DV
Votecount #5: "Prods are tight"
Cantripmancer - 1 (D_V)
Newcomb - 1 (Manasi)
vezokpiraka - 2 (Kanji, tomsloger)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Anaklusmos)
DV - 2 (randwolfsubout, Newcomb)
Anaklusmos - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Not Voting - 4 (Cantripmancer, beeboy, Shinichi, vezokpiraka)
10/10
Are you just purposefully ignoring things or just bad?
There is an Iso tool click on the post count next to the thread.
What did this one do?
It's not really about the time it's about the results why not wait for more people to comment? And what you think of anak responding?
It's bacccccckwards though. I guess it will do. Sorry if that previous post was upsetting lol, I was skimming through stuff. If you want I can find some of the posts I was talking about but it doesn't seem to be worth it
I'm certain they exist. I'm also certain you haven't read the last page.
You going to ever be caught up this game or just half ***** post/ not try?
You seemed pretty excited for the game pregame, talked it up, talked about wanting to play a game with long phases, scrounged your own team together etc.
And you pop in every now and then and offer three middling posts with some conclusions with a bit of writing. Idk I expected you to do more, not necessarily leading but trying to engage more with people. You went to the trouble of reading up games that you had subbed into to have prewritten wall posts (anni) and I believe some recent game you wrote a post overnight (could still be anni lol Idr). Obv we aren't in those situations and I wouldn't expect you to do it this game but I think our recent games offer some insight.
There are probably plenty of good reasons for why you are more of a background player this game and some of them might be good but idrc. Have you done things you think are alignment indicative for yourself?
So you're just ignoring the questions I asked you?
Or did you not bother reading anything I wrote?
Yeah I dunno, some things haven't really been working out and you know some of it and don't know the rest of it. I'm trying to play through that but I feel like my interactions with other people are like, really stifled/muted because everyone I want to interact with is just normally talking around me as opposed to talking to me and I'm not reawlly sure how to deal with that so I've been taking a pretty passive approach. Like, the first two times people talked about me it was like tom talking about me/nacho then people talking about that, and then you/newcomb talking about me while I was asleep/OOT. Think I'm struggling more than I expected to ge interested enough to actively try and engage with people making reads/conversations like that because it's harder to like, have a thought process stay more consistent when you have a thought and then read through the rest of that already completed conversation. Both of the posts you're talking about are probably the same anni post hahah. That one that everyone loved.
I don't know if I've done super alignment indicative things, I know I'm definitely playing similarly to what I guess would be something lower-posting (see: games on the org or something, but those aren't the best standard because I was trash on that site). ANd I think I'm also looking at posts in a similar way to which I read anni with, though that was a lot faster and more conducive to real conversations.
tl;dr hard to engage when being talked about rather than to, passive approach bc lots of ***** going on/not a lot of feedback on thoughts etc etc blahhhhhhhh you know me better than I do
I'll go fix some of my own self inflicted problems by responding to DV's questions lol
Oh. Wait, your only question that I didn't respond to was why my read on Newcomb changed? LOL, oh god. You thought I actually had a scum read on like a 2poster when I voted him super early? When I said it was an intentional vote I definitely was being sarcastic. I think that Newcomb's play has been super comfortably towny. Said that earlier as well after getting some slight input from my team. Kinda convinced me that my initial inclination was correct.
It just bothers me that you are voting me without reading anything I had written.
Its like you are not even trying.
Its clear you didn't read that post I made, but then tried to push onto me.
Why?
Can you explain your thoughts/reasoning?
Can you also post a town/scum list?
Can you start playing the game?
Thanks.
but u just said hes town?
No scum aligned player would actually take the time to write that and what town aligned player would even think to say hey that post must be from scum.
Ur irritating but in a good way atleast i hope
I gave you want you wanted though, its not my fault ur choosing to call it crap lmfao. Get over yourself, if your town you really are hurting your chances for anyone to town read you. You're way to hung up on that and now you actually are starting to overreact yet again.
Something about the this post strikes odd to me and i get the feeling if one of i scum the other might be close by. Its like you really want to scum read newcomb but at the same time your either afraid to because your scum so you cant prove it or your low key trying to push yourself away from him cause hes ur partner.
Ill keep an eye on your interactions.