@Vaimes why mention the spy to the left rule? Definitely echo'ing mikey that it reeks of coaching. Even if it's just theory, giving scum+ theory seems EV-.
@Mikey doesn't Vezok picking someone he thinks is a spy in the mission rather than a rebel just give him latitude to fail the mission if he's a spy? I know D1 reads are going to be week and 1 for 1'ing is super sketchy but that gives spy nominators all sorts of leeway.
trust me. In all my games of resistance, outing one of the spies in a group of two is super helpful to the resistance.
Basically, mission 5 always has to be perfect so if a spy fails mission one we've narrowed it down to a group of two rather than a group of three. It's just something that you likely won't get just by reading theory, you have to actually see how the games play out both ways and learn. If spies fail mission one, they're bad, simple as that, and we're in a much better spot for mission 5. I will 100% of the time prefer a game where mission 1 fails. It's like the monty hall problem. I think having a spy on a day 1 mission regardless of the outcome will always end up better for the resistance.
Besides, spies don't have a private chat, so it's not like they can decide whether or not they want to follow that rule. They might be worried that their teammates aren't gonna adhere to it.
It's usually something brought up in pregame, by specific individuals, before alignments are handed out. Like "Hey if I'm a spy, we're doing the rule."
I don't get this rule? Why does it matter which of the spies fails or passes the mission? Can't they both send fail and we would have no way of knowing?
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Thanks to DNC at Heroes of the plane studios for this awesome sig and SGT_Chubbz for the awesome avy. Check out the Shop Thread
trust me. In all my games of resistance, outing one of the spies in a group of two is super helpful to the resistance.
Basically, mission 5 always has to be perfect so if a spy fails mission one we've narrowed it down to a group of two rather than a group of three. It's just something that you likely won't get just by reading theory, you have to actually see how the games play out both ways and learn. If spies fail mission one, they're bad, simple as that, and we're in a much better spot for mission 5. I will 100% of the time prefer a game where mission 1 fails. It's like the monty hall problem. I think having a spy on a day 1 mission regardless of the outcome will always end up better for the resistance.
That makes sense. I wasn't realizing it wasn't that harmful to go down 1 rebel in the end game.
But I still don't buy that seeking out a spy lean for the D1 mission accomplishes anything. If they're aware of this they'll always vote to pass the mission and we gain nothing by this other than giving a spy some tiny amount of rebel credit.
@Vaimes sure we're laying out basic game strategy but if town!you thinks a new player might be a spy it's strictly negative EV to give them spy advice. And I get that it's more vaulable for a specific player to do it in pre-game but if you're a spy you're signalling to your teammates to follow your lead on this one.
trust me. In all my games of resistance, outing one of the spies in a group of two is super helpful to the resistance.
Basically, mission 5 always has to be perfect so if a spy fails mission one we've narrowed it down to a group of two rather than a group of three. It's just something that you likely won't get just by reading theory, you have to actually see how the games play out both ways and learn. If spies fail mission one, they're bad, simple as that, and we're in a much better spot for mission 5. I will 100% of the time prefer a game where mission 1 fails. It's like the monty hall problem. I think having a spy on a day 1 mission regardless of the outcome will always end up better for the resistance.
That makes sense. I wasn't realizing it wasn't that harmful to go down 1 rebel in the end game.
Except that it is. Rebellion has to be perfect in mission 5. So spies failing the first mission if on it doesn't mean that the first two can just be frozen out of the game. So yeah I get that it's a pretty significant cost to 1 for 1 on the first mission but if we're letting mission leaders seek out suspected spies then it seems less good to me. Because if the mission nomimator is a spy it's a free roll to fail and nominate a spy-ish rebel.
like I apologize for talking about mechanics or whatever but c'mon let's get it goinggg
At times playing resistance I've tried the day 1 fail, it doesn't work for spies nearly as well as you'd like. I welcome anyone failing day 1 (it's not going to happen).
To be honest, I didn’t really think of the EV implications when I posted that.
I woke up, checked MTGS, and randomly remembered the spy to the left rule. I haven’t played this game in years so I got excited when it came back to me.
I’m not opposite to vezok picking whomever. Prefer myself because guaranteed rebel but realistically the first mission will pass.
To be honest, I didn’t really think of the EV implications when I posted that.
I woke up, checked MTGS, and randomly remembered the spy to the left rule. I haven’t played this game in years so I got excited when it came back to me.
I’m not opposite to vezok picking whomever. Prefer myself because guaranteed rebel but realistically the first mission will pass.
Mmmm, I'm doubtful but willing to move on with it.
Even as a player who has basically never played the resistance before, I don't understand what Vaimes is doing giving signals like that if he's not a spy.
But I agree with the MC. Vezok, use your gut-read to pick any team, literally anyone for this first mission. It isn't going to fail unless the spy team is super bad. You have my vote.
I think I played this game IRL once at a boardgames night maybe? I play a lot of Coup, but not The Resistance. I think there were actual power cards in the resistance game I played?
Totally ambivalent to who goes first. Vezok, do your thing and go with your gut.
Hm. I'll ask you too then. Why would a Rebel Mission Leader not put themselves in the second mission of 3?
Ohhh meant to reply to this earlier. While it won't be public people are still going to have to be somewhat open about their votes. Rebels will own their no votes most of the time and working the PoE will help us find who the no votes are. In a game this size people on missions will almost always be voting yes to them and while it won't be complete we will have some voting data to work with.
I mean... I guess? Spies probably don't lie too much about those either.It provides more information to the Rebels to deduce who is a Spy. Like if 5 people claim to have approved a mission, and there's only 4 approvals... then one of those 5 is a Spy. And that can be added to mission results etc to deduce Spies.
Oh wait. You actually do know who voted what. Cool. That's slightly helpful.
If two or more spies somehow end up on a mission together and they don't want to reveal the existence of multiple spies, the first spy to the left of the mission leader will be the one to fail it.
I've never heard of this rule. Isn't this like... how you catch Spies?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
[quote from="Emcee_Mikey »" url="/forums/community-forums/mafia/795520-the-resistance-mafia-mission-1-1-discussion?comment=50"]I have no idea what killjoy was asking me.
You said you thought Grape was resistance. I was curious if you could tell me why you think I have that slight spyread on him.
I think he has that mild "this is what I'm supposed to say" vibe.
@killjoy I don't know why they wouldn't? A 33% chance of discovery seems really good especially if they get to cast equal suspicion on two resistance members when the numbers of the two teams are so tight?
Like why are you asking me this question in such a closed form - as if I'd already given the answer and you were asking me to explain it? :?
@EMCM uh I think you need to fix your quotes in that postural bad, because I did not say what you quoted me saying
Why are you putting yourself in the team specifically?
Cause I'm a rebel and only know my alignment. It makes sense to put myself on the team.
@Mikey: Yeah, thats the reason. Grape has the feel of "This is what rebels should be saying" from an outside perspective, in contrast to vezok from the perspective of "I am a rebel, here is what I am thinking".
But you're rebelreading him atm. Do you agree with my assessment?
Can you also explain the reason you think Grape is a rebel in more detail? I'm not sure I understand it.
@Wuffles: ...What? A REBEL Mission leader. Not a spy mission leader.
Lets try: Why would a town mission leader not put themselves in the 3 man team? (I keep thinking town and scum but change it to rebel and spy and it's getting confusing for me as well. lol. I'm just gonna say town and scum from not on I think.)
I'll wait till Osie and Wuffles answer before talking more about this.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'll wait till Osie and Wuffles answer before talking more about this.
Answer what? I'm Merlin, I don't answer questions.
But anyways, the first mission should always pass.
I don't like that the final mission only has 1 fail. I was concerned about that earlier, and as I've thought about the setup, I've grown more concerned. Hopefully town can win before the final mission though, since the final seems more likely than anything to lose us the game.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Osie: Why would a town mission leader not put himself on the first mission of 3? What purpose do you think that would serve?
You can get an idea of the alignment of more people if a fail gambit is taken?
But I would always put myself on the first mission.
EBWODP: I don't think it's a good idea to not put yourself on the first mission. But the argument could be to see more people. But you get less surety on each one. A mechanical dichotomy is so much better than a mechanical trichotomy.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Can we just say town and scum please it's so much easier. :'(
@Killjoy I think that there is no good reason why a town ML wouldn't put themselves in either? Like, doing so adds +33% town to the mission?
Unless they were looking to try to fool scum into multi-failing or something? Idk, it just seems like a risk when scum can just vote once and give minimal information to the town even if there are two of them on there?
Everyone gave good answers too, including Grape. So either Grape/Osie/Wuffles are all town or that question wasn't as good as I had originally thought.
I personally do it in this manner: I put two town reads and a scum read on the mission to see if it fails. If it doesn't it's likely that my scumread was town. If it does, then I might be right on the scumread. But I specifically look for reactions to it. There are tells in IRL Resistance that don't apply here, but they're likely to show up after that mission. I guess I'm weird though in that I don't go for the perfect victory. I've been in games where two people just never went on missions and we had to send one of them on the final one blind, so that kinda prevents the blindness? Ideally everyone goes on at least 1 mission by the end, with two for the most town, to win on mission 5. Basically I prefer going into mission 5 with more info and 2 fails than going into mission 3 with two successes and no info. Long Game, etc.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
because he's never played resistance before but understands the theory behind it.
I won't say too much about it unless vezok decides to choose someone else or he gets sent on the mission and tomorrow.
I was out for a walk, but I'm here now whaddya want
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
@Mikey doesn't Vezok picking someone he thinks is a spy in the mission rather than a rebel just give him latitude to fail the mission if he's a spy? I know D1 reads are going to be week and 1 for 1'ing is super sketchy but that gives spy nominators all sorts of leeway.
Basically, mission 5 always has to be perfect so if a spy fails mission one we've narrowed it down to a group of two rather than a group of three. It's just something that you likely won't get just by reading theory, you have to actually see how the games play out both ways and learn. If spies fail mission one, they're bad, simple as that, and we're in a much better spot for mission 5. I will 100% of the time prefer a game where mission 1 fails. It's like the monty hall problem. I think having a spy on a day 1 mission regardless of the outcome will always end up better for the resistance.
It's usually something brought up in pregame, by specific individuals, before alignments are handed out. Like "Hey if I'm a spy, we're doing the rule."
On the other hand, I don't like the idea of making a Fail more likely on purpose.
It's really up to the mission leader and [redacted], in which case a spy will be outed, but it's not a guarantee.
Thanks to DNC at Heroes of the plane studios for this awesome sig and SGT_Chubbz for the awesome avy.
Check out the Shop Thread
That makes sense. I wasn't realizing it wasn't that harmful to go down 1 rebel in the end game.
But I still don't buy that seeking out a spy lean for the D1 mission accomplishes anything. If they're aware of this they'll always vote to pass the mission and we gain nothing by this other than giving a spy some tiny amount of rebel credit.
@Vaimes sure we're laying out basic game strategy but if town!you thinks a new player might be a spy it's strictly negative EV to give them spy advice. And I get that it's more vaulable for a specific player to do it in pre-game but if you're a spy you're signalling to your teammates to follow your lead on this one.
Except that it is. Rebellion has to be perfect in mission 5. So spies failing the first mission if on it doesn't mean that the first two can just be frozen out of the game. So yeah I get that it's a pretty significant cost to 1 for 1 on the first mission but if we're letting mission leaders seek out suspected spies then it seems less good to me. Because if the mission nomimator is a spy it's a free roll to fail and nominate a spy-ish rebel.
At times playing resistance I've tried the day 1 fail, it doesn't work for spies nearly as well as you'd like. I welcome anyone failing day 1 (it's not going to happen).
I woke up, checked MTGS, and randomly remembered the spy to the left rule. I haven’t played this game in years so I got excited when it came back to me.
I’m not opposite to vezok picking whomever. Prefer myself because guaranteed rebel but realistically the first mission will pass.
Mmmm, I'm doubtful but willing to move on with it.
I think it is a good team and I think it is going to pass
But I agree with the MC. Vezok, use your gut-read to pick any team, literally anyone for this first mission. It isn't going to fail unless the spy team is super bad. You have my vote.
Hm. I'll ask you too then. Why would a Rebel Mission Leader not put themselves in the second mission of 3?
I mean... I guess? Spies probably don't lie too much about those either.It provides more information to the Rebels to deduce who is a Spy. Like if 5 people claim to have approved a mission, and there's only 4 approvals... then one of those 5 is a Spy. And that can be added to mission results etc to deduce Spies.
Oh wait. You actually do know who voted what. Cool. That's slightly helpful.
I've never heard of this rule. Isn't this like... how you catch Spies?
You said you thought Grape was resistance. I was curious if you could tell me why you think I have that slight spyread on him.
I think he has that mild "this is what I'm supposed to say" vibe.
Like why are you asking me this question in such a closed form - as if I'd already given the answer and you were asking me to explain it? :?
@EMCM uh I think you need to fix your quotes in that postural bad, because I did not say what you quoted me saying
But you're rebelreading him atm. Do you agree with my assessment?
Can you also explain the reason you think Grape is a rebel in more detail? I'm not sure I understand it.
@Wuffles: ...What? A REBEL Mission leader. Not a spy mission leader.
Lets try: Why would a town mission leader not put themselves in the 3 man team? (I keep thinking town and scum but change it to rebel and spy and it's getting confusing for me as well. lol. I'm just gonna say town and scum from not on I think.)
I'll wait till Osie and Wuffles answer before talking more about this.
which means it's genuine
which means he's a rebel
Answer what? I'm Merlin, I don't answer questions.
But anyways, the first mission should always pass.
I don't like that the final mission only has 1 fail. I was concerned about that earlier, and as I've thought about the setup, I've grown more concerned. Hopefully town can win before the final mission though, since the final seems more likely than anything to lose us the game.
Killjoy is probably a rebel?
wtfffffffffffffffffffff
You can get an idea of the alignment of more people if a fail gambit is taken?
But I would always put myself on the first mission.
EBWODP: I don't think it's a good idea to not put yourself on the first mission. But the argument could be to see more people. But you get less surety on each one. A mechanical dichotomy is so much better than a mechanical trichotomy.
@Killjoy I think that there is no good reason why a town ML wouldn't put themselves in either? Like, doing so adds +33% town to the mission?
Unless they were looking to try to fool scum into multi-failing or something? Idk, it just seems like a risk when scum can just vote once and give minimal information to the town even if there are two of them on there?
Everyone gave good answers too, including Grape. So either Grape/Osie/Wuffles are all town or that question wasn't as good as I had originally thought.
I personally do it in this manner: I put two town reads and a scum read on the mission to see if it fails. If it doesn't it's likely that my scumread was town. If it does, then I might be right on the scumread. But I specifically look for reactions to it. There are tells in IRL Resistance that don't apply here, but they're likely to show up after that mission. I guess I'm weird though in that I don't go for the perfect victory. I've been in games where two people just never went on missions and we had to send one of them on the final one blind, so that kinda prevents the blindness? Ideally everyone goes on at least 1 mission by the end, with two for the most town, to win on mission 5. Basically I prefer going into mission 5 with more info and 2 fails than going into mission 3 with two successes and no info. Long Game, etc.
wut?
Just as I was ready to say "yeah, Killjoy is town."
osie too, though I'm less certain on that.
Feel like Mikey is pocketing/TMI'ing Grape, but I don't reeeally townread Grape, so I'm just vOv at that.
The first mission almost always passes, regardless of alignment.
This has a subtle kind of "look at me, fellow townies, for I am also a scumhunting townie" undertone.
same
Vaimes
Killjoy
vezokpiraka
Osieorb18
Grapefruit21
Wuffles_II
Emcee_Mikey
Yeah.
Game solved, let's go.
what
what
what
do you legitimately not understand the significance of grape being sent on a mission today?
Is he special?
Again, more than 1 fail vote. But why should I talk about scum strategy?
whee
I won't say too much about it unless vezok decides to choose someone else or he gets sent on the mission and tomorrow.
I was out for a walk, but I'm here now whaddya want
Thanks to DNC at Heroes of the plane studios for this awesome sig and SGT_Chubbz for the awesome avy.
Check out the Shop Thread
And can you explain your read on vezok? What do you see here?
Hey vezok: you seem pretty widely townread right now. How does that make you feel?