Alright well there's claims to hear and isos to read but I would really like to sort the squishy middle today. Wuffles/dota/johnny/grape. Likely multiple in there even if both of Kami and danasi are actually scum
Okay, so Kpaca, what did you do last night? Let's give Vaimes something to work with here.
I feel like in non lynch or lose scenarios it’s best I don’t tell the mafia what remaining abilities I have available to me. Y’know, since I’m getting redirected and what not.
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Okay, so Kpaca, what did you do last night? Let's give Vaimes something to work with here.
I feel like in non lynch or lose scenarios it’s best I don’t tell the mafia what remaining abilities I have available to me. Y’know, since I’m getting redirected and what not.
Okay, so Kpaca, what did you do last night? Let's give Vaimes something to work with here.
I feel like in non lynch or lose scenarios it’s best I don’t tell the mafia what remaining abilities I have available to me. Y’know, since I’m getting redirected and what not.
Fair, but I'm not asking you to reveal your remaining abilities. I'm running with the assumption that you had nothing to do with the kill being blocked last Night.
Fair, but I'm not asking you to reveal your remaining abilities. I'm running with the assumption that you had nothing to do with the kill being blocked last Night.
id also run with that assumption.
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Mafia extra kills appear to be more rare (that is, it took me longer to find one), but do exist - most recent I found was Predator mafia, with a 1-shot mafia extra NK.
IMO we arent in lylo just yet, even though earlier I thought we were, so if new information is substantial to lynching a red, or town clearing someone that is being scum read, then the information should be with held...
if Kpaca or whoever stopped the night kill, thinks we are gunna lynch someone who is town cleared, Im certain they will speak up
Common Joat Practices that Ive seen:
Cop, Doctor, Vigi, Roleblocker
or more often Inves/Protection/Killing, so we also have a slight idea what his abilities are...
Without knowing who stopped the night kill, and if they were/werent redirected, which im assuming they have somewhere between 1-3 ifs Kpaca isnt lying, which I do believe, its hard to deduce anymore
If Kpaca did stop the night kill, he should/would know who he saved, because he clearly was told he was redirected, and I dont know the extent of his info, because in the case of a vigi, its obvious he was redirected, and he was told he was redirected, but im unsure if he outside seeing Fuwa died, did his role pm state that he was redirected to fuwa. If he saved someone, its doubtful that he was redirected, because thats a stupid way to use a redirect, and im not even gunna tinfoil him being mafia anymore....
the above is only in the case of him using a doctor, and if it was possibility a roleblock, he would tell us the information he knew (I assume), again he wasnt redirected if this was the case either
I guess one thing we can take from this, is that if Kpaca was the user of the action, redirect didnt happen (or was someone else)
Its also possible to deduce that maybe the redirector has no more shots? because as a joat, it would smart to redirect him again... unless scum decided to redirect someone else? which I dont recall anyone else alive hinting at a PR?
Notes:
Kami's tone still throws me off, cause he has yet to ever play like this as town... but I also still havent seen his scum game
id lynch there over a no lynch...
Grape That leaves 4 scum in Tom, KA, Mansi, Dota, Vaimes, and GJ
I can dig it excluding Tom of course, and im still honestly having a hard time removing you and wuffles completely from the PoE
Ugh Kami still just the scummiest person on anak and vez wagons and it's not even close. And he's sitting in such lynchy position on both mid-late wagon surround by town and probable town
I kinda liked rodemy read about pushing SK though
Maybe it's dumb
Grape That leaves 4 scum in Tom, KA, Mansi, Dota, Vaimes, and GJ
I can dig it excluding Tom of course, and im still honestly having a hard time removing you and wuffles completely from the PoE
I had tom out for ages but he hasn't done enough to safely remove him entirely from the PoE, but I'm never lynching him before a final 5, or probably really 3.
As for Wuffles if the VC looked worse for him I'd probably stick him back in (him and Rod aren't lock clear) but I just don't see it after his reevaluation of me. Like maybe he is scum, but I don't know why he'd reevaluate me so starkly when he had no reason to as scum.
And I didn't have my PM I'd have a hard time removing me from the PoE.
Grape That leaves 4 scum in Tom, KA, Mansi, Dota, Vaimes, and GJ
I can dig it excluding Tom of course, and im still honestly having a hard time removing you and wuffles completely from the PoE
I had tom out for ages but he hasn't done enough to safely remove him entirely from the PoE, but I'm never lynching him before a final 5, or probably really 3.
As for Wuffles if the VC looked worse for him I'd probably stick him back in (him and Rod aren't lock clear) but I just don't see it after his reevaluation of me. Like maybe he is scum, but I don't know why he'd reevaluate me so starkly when he had no reason to as scum.
And I didn't have my PM I'd have a hard time removing me from the PoE.
CORRECT. I bite and don't let go as scum. When town (and have the time) I try to actually find scum.
Btw, I've found one. K-dog, I'm working under the same assumption as Vaimes, that you didn't do anything (at least last night) that would involve you preventing a NK.
CORRECT. I bite and don't let go as scum. When town (and have the time) I try to actually find scum.
Btw, I've found one. K-dog, I'm working under the same assumption as Vaimes, that you didn't do anything (at least last night) that would involve you preventing a NK.
. That’s probably a decent assumption to make.
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@KA you were early enough on both wagons that you moving to the counter wagon might have made a difference. I will say it looks worse for GJ than you but you don't look great.
@Wuffles tom might be scum here but I'm never lynching him today. Not while KA, Dota, and GJ are still around.
@KA you were early enough on both wagons that you moving to the counter wagon might have made a difference. I will say it looks worse for GJ than you but you don't look great.
@Wuffles tom might be scum here but I'm never lynching him today. Not while KA, Dota, and GJ are still around.
Tom not being dead is weird. Also kpaca is still alive? Like the joat is alive. Think about that.
vote kpaca
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@KA you were early enough on both wagons that you moving to the counter wagon might have made a difference. I will say it looks worse for GJ than you but you don't look great.
@Wuffles tom might be scum here but I'm never lynching him today. Not while KA, Dota, and GJ are still around.
???
I guess you missed the mechanical implications, but Wuffles can correct me if I'm wrong about that.
Unvote, vote tomsloger
Guess we'll just have to lynch Grape a little later.
Hmm Rodemy has a good point... and Kpaca is not saying what he did last night in fear of scum finding his abilities, which I wouldnt say Joat abilities are even that hard to pinned down...
I really wish we knew what happened to the night kill...
Lets say Kpaca/Tom scum team is possible, who would be scum with them? Tbh a lot of you would probably say me, but thats expected, and other candidates tho? anyways off to work
@KA you were early enough on both wagons that you moving to the counter wagon might have made a difference. I will say it looks worse for GJ than you but you don't look great.
@Wuffles tom might be scum here but I'm never lynching him today. Not while KA, Dota, and GJ are still around.
Tom not being dead is weird. Also kpaca is still alive? Like the joat is alive. Think about that.
vote kpaca
you realize the only mafia kill so far has been osi? When/why would I have got shot?
@KA you were early enough on both wagons that you moving to the counter wagon might have made a difference. I will say it looks worse for GJ than you but you don't look great.
@Wuffles tom might be scum here but I'm never lynching him today. Not while KA, Dota, and GJ are still around.
Tom not being dead is weird. Also kpaca is still alive? Like the joat is alive. Think about that.
vote kpaca
you realize the only mafia kill so far has been osi? When/why would I have got shot?
or last night
@Kpaca
Uve been head ass on people for their claims, and pretty much pushed everyone that claimed alongside me, so why is ur PR any more important than theirs?
Did you or did you not stop the kill? This is ur ultimatum...
obvious how?
I went to an escape room for someone’s birthday last night bro.
Wuffles_II - 1 (Rodemy)
Not Voting - 10 (Grapefruit21, KamikazeArchon, Manasi, Wuffles_II, DoTArchon, Vaimes, kpaca, Gentleman Johnny, Lastwhisper, tomsloger)
(With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch)
Day 4 ends on August 19th at 2000 Mountain time.
Wildcard scum: Rodemy
vote LastWhisper
ya understandable
Honestly, if/when you flip scum, you probably just spew cleared some people, not that Tom and Kpaca arent already lock!town imo
Explain to me why the people you left out cant be scum?
aka Grape/Wuffles?GJ
and how you came to this [/b]"1 of (Dota, g_d, vaimes)"[/b]
also this [b]Wildcard scum: Rodemy[/b]
fixed*
But I do want to know if kpaca did anything last Night because I'm looking for a specific answer.
How sure are you with this vote?
We're at mylo. Observe the problem with this phrase.[/quote]
Explain to me why the people you left out cant be scum?[/quote]Wrong question. I felt there was a trichotomy there a long time ago, and the PoE supports it.
If I'm wrong on someone it's probably Rodemy that fits the last scum slot, due to erratic & low-explanation behavior.
Vaimes:
They absolutely do. Is this even in question?
Also kinda wanna vote tom.
So yes, both are very much options.
Okay Kpaca, I need one piece of information from you.
Did you do anything that could have prevented a kill last night?
Think kpaca is just town. Last too.
I'm repressing the tinfoil
I'm town, Kpaca is town, LW is town.
Wuffles had a very townie reaction to me when I had my short flurry of activity, and Rod made that outrageous mason/neighbor read earlier.
That leaves 4 scum in Tom, KA, Mansi, Dota, Vaimes, and GJ.
Here are the EoD VC's:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Anaklusmos - 9 (tomsloger, Wuffles_II, Gentleman Johnny, Grapefruit21, vezokpiraka, KamikazeArchon, Fuwa, osieorb18, Lastwhisper)
vezokpiraka - 6 (DoTArchon, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Vaimes, kpaca, Anaklusmos, Rodemy)
Wuffles_II - 1 (Ganderin_dan)
Day 2 Final Votecount
vezokpiraka - 8 (Rodemy, tomsloger, Fuwa, kpaca, Lastwhisper, KamikazeArchon, Vaimes, osieorb18)
Fuwa - 4 (Grapefruit21, DoTArchon, Manasi, Gentleman Johnny)
Grapefruit21 - 2 (Wuffles_II, vezokpiraka)
Not Voting - 1 (TheRealStinkyJoeTerry)
Day 3 Final Votecount
Scarlet Rage - 7 (Manasi, DoTArchon, Vaimes, Rodemy, kpaca, Lastwhisper, tomsloger)
tomsloger - 1 (Gentleman Johnny)
Rodemy - 1 (Wuffles_II)
Not Voting - 3 (Grapefruit21, Scarlet Rage, KamikazeArchon)
Those VC's look awful for Johnny and KA. Dota looks bad too but not as bad.
Vote: KA
if Kpaca or whoever stopped the night kill, thinks we are gunna lynch someone who is town cleared, Im certain they will speak up
Common Joat Practices that Ive seen:
Cop, Doctor, Vigi, Roleblocker
or more often Inves/Protection/Killing, so we also have a slight idea what his abilities are...
Without knowing who stopped the night kill, and if they were/werent redirected, which im assuming they have somewhere between 1-3 ifs Kpaca isnt lying, which I do believe, its hard to deduce anymore
If Kpaca did stop the night kill, he should/would know who he saved, because he clearly was told he was redirected, and I dont know the extent of his info, because in the case of a vigi, its obvious he was redirected, and he was told he was redirected, but im unsure if he outside seeing Fuwa died, did his role pm state that he was redirected to fuwa. If he saved someone, its doubtful that he was redirected, because thats a stupid way to use a redirect, and im not even gunna tinfoil him being mafia anymore....
the above is only in the case of him using a doctor, and if it was possibility a roleblock, he would tell us the information he knew (I assume), again he wasnt redirected if this was the case either
I guess one thing we can take from this, is that if Kpaca was the user of the action, redirect didnt happen (or was someone else)
Its also possible to deduce that maybe the redirector has no more shots? because as a joat, it would smart to redirect him again... unless scum decided to redirect someone else? which I dont recall anyone else alive hinting at a PR?
Notes:
Kami's tone still throws me off, cause he has yet to ever play like this as town... but I also still havent seen his scum game
id lynch there over a no lynch...
That leaves 4 scum in Tom, KA, Mansi, Dota, Vaimes, and GJ
I can dig it excluding Tom of course, and im still honestly having a hard time removing you and wuffles completely from the PoE
I kinda liked rodemy read about pushing SK though
Maybe it's dumb
I had tom out for ages but he hasn't done enough to safely remove him entirely from the PoE, but I'm never lynching him before a final 5, or probably really 3.
As for Wuffles if the VC looked worse for him I'd probably stick him back in (him and Rod aren't lock clear) but I just don't see it after his reevaluation of me. Like maybe he is scum, but I don't know why he'd reevaluate me so starkly when he had no reason to as scum.
And I didn't have my PM I'd have a hard time removing me from the PoE.
lol this ******* guy haha
Btw, I've found one. K-dog, I'm working under the same assumption as Vaimes, that you didn't do anything (at least last night) that would involve you preventing a NK.
It's Tomsloger.
Vote TomSloger.
Feel free to murder the **** out of me tomorrow if Tom flips town. He won't flip town.
@Wuffles tom might be scum here but I'm never lynching him today. Not while KA, Dota, and GJ are still around.
Wuffles_II - 1 (Rodemy)
Lastwhisper - 1 (KamikazeArchon)
Grapefruit21 - 1 (Vaimes)
KamikazeArchon - 1 (Grapefruit21)
tomsloger - 1 (Wuffles_II)
Not Voting - 10 (Manasi, DoTArchon, kpaca, Gentleman Johnny, Lastwhisper, tomsloger)
(With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch)
Manasi, DoTArchon, and Gentleman Johnny are being prodded.
Day 4 ends on August 19th at 2000 Mountain time.
Tom not being dead is weird. Also kpaca is still alive? Like the joat is alive. Think about that.
vote kpaca
I guess you missed the mechanical implications, but Wuffles can correct me if I'm wrong about that.
Unvote, vote tomsloger
Guess we'll just have to lynch Grape a little later.
I really wish we knew what happened to the night kill...
Rodemy
Tho, why do you think Tom should be dead?
bring it on homie
@Kpaca
Uve been head ass on people for their claims, and pretty much pushed everyone that claimed alongside me, so why is ur PR any more important than theirs?
Did you or did you not stop the kill? This is ur ultimatum...