@last I wouldn't put that sort of theater past wuffles/grape if they were buddies twice in a row
Just sayin
Mine was even more relevant
haha, wow
And fine, I'll give you that my read on Grape is mostly tonal, and my tonal reads aren't the best, and there is also some of his comments that he has made that I don't like
Same for pretty much wuffles...
And the same goes for Kami's post trying to vote me, that I derp cleared, looking back, i don't really like that tone, compared to GJ
@last I wouldn't put that sort of theater past wuffles/grape if they were buddies twice in a row
Just sayin
Mine was even more relevant
haha, wow
And fine, I'll give you that my read on Grape is mostly tonal, and my tonal reads aren't the best, and there is also some of his comments that he has made that I don't like
Same for pretty much wuffles...
And the same goes for Kami's post trying to vote me, that I derp cleared, looking back, i don't really like that tone, compared to GJ
If you're scum reading me on tone that's a dangerous game. Tone is the main thing I'm able to keep constant. Plus every "pity party" post you've pointed at was intended to be funny. Just didn't come out that way because I'm not funny.
@last I wouldn't put that sort of theater past wuffles/grape if they were buddies twice in a row
Just sayin
Mine was even more relevant
haha, wow
And fine, I'll give you that my read on Grape is mostly tonal, and my tonal reads aren't the best, and there is also some of his comments that he has made that I don't like
Same for pretty much wuffles...
And the same goes for Kami's post trying to vote me, that I derp cleared, looking back, i don't really like that tone, compared to GJ
If you're scum reading me on tone that's a dangerous game. Tone is the main thing I'm able to keep constant. Plus every "pity party" post you've pointed at was intended to be funny. Just didn't come out that way because I'm not funny.
i guess we will find out if thats true, based on what you flip :P. and your pity posts are weird, and idk how I feel about them, but they have nothing to do with my vote on you, I just really didnt like them...
Tbh I feel like outside of a small group of people, that I am playing the game by myself, and thats probably why I am getting so frustrated. Like does anyone even comment on my posts? like who has actually questioned my scum team?
either way, Ill be gone till late tomorrow, or Monday. o/
Really because other than tone and wuffles and I pushing each other you haven't expressed anything saying why you think as I'm scum.
i mean as I stated with Fuwa, you havent given me any reason to pull you out of the PoE, do you think I should be reading you as town? Why should I need to dig deep for reasons to believe you are town? None of your posts really so much of anything, except when you went hard on terry, like I cant even recall if you were even on the train or if u just wanted to see him die... is that suppose to be townie?
Also you've nearly posted twice as much as the second highest poster so that probably has a lot to do with it. Combined with your own admission that you change your mind and will town read someone you were tunneling really quickly makes you less valuable to interact with because your opinion will change drastically regardless.
Really because other than tone and wuffles and I pushing each other you haven't expressed anything saying why you think as I'm scum.
i mean as I stated with Fuwa, you havent given me any reason to pull you out of the PoE, do you think I should be reading you as town? Why should I need to dig deep for reasons to believe you are town? None of your posts really so much of anything, except when you went hard on terry, like I cant even recall if you were even on the train or if u just wanted to see him die... is that suppose to be townie?
lol
If you don't know if I was on a recent crucial train or not and you've made almost 5 times as many posts as I have I don't really think it's worth trying to convince you.
Also you've nearly posted twice as much as the second highest poster so that probably has a lot to do with it. Combined with your own admission that you change your mind and will town read someone you were tunneling really quickly makes you less valuable to interact with because your opinion will change drastically regardless.
town read anyone within reason? if someone is posting really scummy, and than his posts get really townie, should I ignore the townie posts, and just keep scum reading him?
and I love playing mafia, what can I say
seriously who are you even scum reading? I should start making a list of everyone and who they think is scummy, cause I swear I dont see any of that
My scum team is you/wuffles, kami/tom, rodemy, and fuwa? do you have any opinions at all on any of them?
Do you think GJ is scummy?
Do you think Vezok is still scummy?
like even if I choose to put GJ and Vezok into PoE, you are still there, doing barely anything
Really because other than tone and wuffles and I pushing each other you haven't expressed anything saying why you think as I'm scum.
i mean as I stated with Fuwa, you havent given me any reason to pull you out of the PoE, do you think I should be reading you as town? Why should I need to dig deep for reasons to believe you are town? None of your posts really so much of anything, except when you went hard on terry, like I cant even recall if you were even on the train or if u just wanted to see him die... is that suppose to be townie?
lol
If you don't know if I was on a recent crucial train or not and you've made almost 5 times as many posts as I have I don't really think it's worth trying to convince you.
so you dont want to convince, another town player that you are town, because you believe they wont listen? but you say I change positions constantly on people, and you dont think the same can happen with you?
also my memory is dwindling thats why I might repeat questions a lot, dont see why you couldnt just say if you were or werent on that train...
I found my answer, and my vote stays, and since your dont seem to want to convince me otherwise, its funny that you were on the Anak train which I, someone who pushed it, agree that there was almost a non existent case on him, outside his one statement saying he would scum read anyone that scum read me, but terry who makes the scummiest statements, you will interact non stop with, and push him, and question his posts, and call him scummy, but wont even vote him...
Wisp I never voted Terry because he was at L-2 every time I was around and wanted to vote him. Which you as someone who loves mafia and spends more time playing than the anyone else should have known.
Like I love your enthusiasm and effort. I just sincerely wish you would put some of that effort into private notes that would help you remember the facts of the game.
And I know from experience that you very very very rarely have your mind changed by someone directly telling you something but often have it changed by (good posting) even from scum reads.
As for your scum team Wuffles, KA, fuwa, and Rod is comical levels of just failing wolves. Plus I think Rod is really townie and fuwa reasonably so.
Grape And I know from experience that you very very very rarely have your mind changed by someone directly telling you something but often have it changed by (good posting) even from scum reads.
wrong because I stopped having doubts about terry being a scum doctor, because of things Osie and others have said about it being unusual in a normal game, Kami also made a post about it
and the only time Ive seen my self be swayed by good posting is, maybe Osie in in COD Mafia, and you in Token Mafia, and you were my scum lean going into day 3 even tho I knew I was dead, and token mafia again, was mostly just me playing...
As for your scum team Wuffles, KA, fuwa, and Rod is comical levels of just failing wolves. Plus I think Rod is really townie and fuwa reasonably so.
ok so whos your scum team?
I agree tho that I should make notes, but then again I probably wouldnt even know what to put into my notes
Grape bold points are what Grape said
so you thought he was scummy, but you were afraid terry was gunna be hammered by scum? Put him into L1, see who votes him, its all information, it literally makes no sense for you to have no voted him in that situation.
So explain to me exactly why you didnt want to vote him Let's do it this way: who thinks Terry is town and why?
you said this 2 days ago, and this literally means you think the opposite of what you were asking? which means you did indeed scum read him? so you didnt vote because why? and dont say its because it was L2 again
@LW Not letting people lynch/pressure strong town reads is a good way to play fwiw. And I'd argue that your premise doesn't make sense. I'm not buying the spoiler mishap as a town!firm for Kami but if he was scum I don't think his intention was to push a mislynch. I think it was to fake a town!firm. After F&E I'm not ever buying derp clears. Ever. Too easy to fake. But you're making up nonsense reasoning to not clear him.
like I get to the point where I actually agree that Kami can be scum, which you also think is true, but argue my point on intention was wrong, even if it leads to the same conclusion as your point, which is him being scum... and what did you even mean by fake a town!firm?
To be fair you did ask for a scum team multiple times when his provided scum team is the reason you should be voting him. Not that it makes threats acceptable. In any way. like ^^^, lol, but not enough for you to vote him?
and there was a time where I pulled my vote off and Terry wasnt at L2, so whats ur excuse then?
@last I wouldn't put that sort of theater past wuffles/grape if they were buddies twice in a row
Just sayin
Mine was even more relevant
haha, wow
And fine, I'll give you that my read on Grape is mostly tonal, and my tonal reads aren't the best, and there is also some of his comments that he has made that I don't like
Same for pretty much wuffles...
And the same goes for Kami's post trying to vote me, that I derp cleared, looking back, i don't really like that tone, compared to GJ
If you're scum reading me on tone that's a dangerous game. Tone is the main thing I'm able to keep constant. Plus every "pity party" post you've pointed at was intended to be funny. Just didn't come out that way because I'm not funny.
Wisp you've been swayed by good posting at least twice this game (kpaca and GJ). Though I meant to say in the previous part that your mind doesn't change easily from direct interactions with scum reads. Not in general.
I don't have a team but I suspect wuffles, Vez, GJ, KA, and dota without any confidence that they make any sense as a team. Mostly I think I'm wrong in a town read but don't know which and will need scum flips to figure it out.
As for notes keep tallies of what you think is AI and why it is. Helps keep reads from getting stale.
Your stance on voting to put him to L1 is bad mafia. And after he claimed I didn't want to vote him.
It's Dan. Dan is the scum in everyone's townreads.
Well he has kind of vanished and him addressing like 6 people per post could be a way to try to get over his hatred of posting as scum. Hmmmm.... Time to go check my notes and see why I liked him again.
gahhhh. I got to page 44 and gave up. This game feels so hard to participate in. I'll try again next time I have some time, which will probably be wednesday NZtime. Light V/LA till then because I might have some time during work lunch and stuff. -_-
(With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch)
Lastwhisper is V/LA until July 16th
Rodemy is V/LA until July 16th
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry is V/LA until July 16
osieorb18 is V/LA until July 17
Wuffles_II is V/LA until July 18Day 2 ends on July 23rd at 2000 Mountain time.
I have not yet had time to read past pg 44, but am feeling extremely guilty for not posting content in a while so here is a reads list.
1. Vezokpiraka
Vezok is, as always, difficult to read for me, because his style and mine are very different. I look for quality of arguments and logic, while he tends to be a bit more feely in his reads. While he and wisp have a lot of similarities in that they tend to go with their gut-reads a lot more than many players, Vezok’s town game seems to involve him coming to a conclusion on a player and then sitting on that read confidently until his gut tells him different. This is very different to, say, me, who relies on what people are currently saying in comparison to what they’ve previously said and so I tend to blanket read him as town if he’s posting confidently and not paying too much attention outside of his bubble.
He’s definitely doing his town thing this game and his tracker claim, while I am watching for it because of K-Dog’s claim that his role would mean that a tracker isn’t likely to be in the game, but at this stage I don’t see any scumminess or anything that strikes me as un-vezok in his posts. So I’m good with Vez for now.
2. Vaimes
Man. I wish I could read Vaimes. From what I’ve read of his games (barebones in particular) he can be a bit of a bulldog at times, but his town play does allow for flexibility – the example being in barebones when he reluctantly conceded his scum read of Silver that he’d had all game in favour of finally going after the (up until that point) Tom-led mafia power wolfing that was running away with the game to win from out of ******* nowhere.
I don’t know enough about his scum game to say if his play this game has been Vaimes-scummy; if anything I’d lean town because he seems to be having the same difficulties as me getting enthused about posting, which is probably not a good read but the only one I have without reading back to the D_V days and screw that.
3. Osieorb18
Osie is either town and a huge detriment to the scum, or is scum AND fake-claiming an IC AND has a role that ****s the scum over, hard. I’d be terrified if the second option were the case because there would need to be a HELL of a lot of power in the remaining scums to account for the gigantic dick-punch that his role demonstrably delivers to their chances. Missing night phases is incredibly damaging for the scums and I think that even if he wasn’t already spewing town from his day 1 play that the claim is mechanically extremely unlikely to be a mafia role.
4. Grapefruit21
Ugh. I don’t know about this guy. He was blatantly playing his scum meta at one point – but whether or not that was because he was like me trying to fall back on easy reads in order to contribute to a game that I’ve found hard is anyone’s guess. I’m still leaning scum on him if nothing super town-spewy comes out of my re-read.
5. Kpaca
He cooks, he cleans, he uses the tools within his means, but his play with his cryptic counter-claim of Vezok – idk man. And his faykill with wisp does suggest that they’re either both or neither scum. In general, though, he‘s definitely on the hunt and that makes me lean town on him.
6. Wuffles_II
This guy’s town. And a tad demotivated. And pretty anxious about his lack of inactivity, because if he were the mod he’d be getting pretty angry at the lack of participation, which makes him more anxious, which makes it harder to participate, etc. ☹
7. Ganderin_dan
I haven’t had much of a read on Dan this game. I totally accept that he has made a lot of content, but none of it has really jumped out at me. Hopefully an opinion comes out of a re-read.
8. Rodemy
God Dammit Rodemy.
9. KamikazeArchon
Leaning scum on this guy. His attempt at a derpclear felt really forced and (as something I deliberately tried to do in Token as scum) forced-seeming derps tend to come from scum. He had enough time to see that the thread had already clarified that spoilers weren’t working and for him to jump on someone for “the mod not having reported their alignment” feels super dumb and more like something I’d expect to be done for derptown credit rather than as a derp. If it were me or wisp doing it, then, maybe. We’re both ADD and miss stuff often (at least, I do)
10. TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Man, IDK. I’m not into lynching a claimed doctor but if I were…Terry’s had a few pretty bad posts. Going all-in on the Kami derpclear is bad. Super bad.
12. Tomsloger
No read on Tom except that he seems to be seriously lacking the energy and aggressive hunting style he showed me with TownSloger in Token. I get the feeling that he’s finding it similarly difficult to do stuff right now though as I am. No real read but gun to head leaning slightly scum.
13. Lastwhisper
Wisp seems to somehow have the energy to comment on everything this game like a hyperactive chihuahua using all four of his legs to type into four keyboards at once.
He’s super active and super feely and gutread-ish as I’ve come to expect from Town wisp. It’s for this reason that I suspect that Kpaca is town after the Faykill because I don’t think that scum Kpac would try that for townie points if Wisp is town – the likelihood of him being scum goes up if wisp is his buddy as it would be easy to co-ordinate wisp’s response in that scenario.
But I don’t think Wisp giving this much and being so transparently feely in this game can really be anything but town wisp doing his thing. ++town to him. (And no, I’m not trying to pocket you this game, Wisp, because jesus your flip-flopping is irritating me on a personal playstyle level).
14. DotArchon
He doesn’t post much. He posted almost never in Arkham and got vigged and flipped scum. That’s literally all I have on him. Not that I’m much better this game so far. >_<
15. Fuwa
People seem to think that Fuwa got better around page 40? I don’t know if I agree with that, but I’ll have a re-read of her ISO when I get the chance if my re-read comes out with any questions about her.
16. Gentleman Johnny
Why is Johnny being TCM a big deal for Kpaca? Did K-dog explain that and I missed it? He seemed pretty keen on him from page 43-44 but backed off immediately when told what his other identities were.
I still dislike Johnny’s playstyle – it feels like he sinks way too easily into adhom territory when provoked. I don’t have a good read on him right now.
@fuwa ive never had daychat as scum so my experience is no daychat
Come on. Gj's pressure vote provides no pressure.
Fake news.
I asked you to state the game state after Terry's claim. Where are you at? You have basiclly been coasting for the last two days. My pressure vote makes tons of sense, and the only thing that doesn't is your set of actions this game if you are town.
Wisp you've been swayed by good posting at least twice this game (kpaca and GJ). Though I meant to say in the previous part that your mind doesn't change easily from direct interactions with scum reads. Not in general.
I don't have a team but I suspect wuffles, Vez, GJ, KA, and dota without any confidence that they make any sense as a team. Mostly I think I'm wrong in a town read but don't know which and will need scum flips to figure it out.
As for notes keep tallies of what you think is AI and why it is. Helps keep reads from getting stale.
Your stance on voting to put him to L1 is bad mafia. And after he claimed I didn't want to vote him.
If your dota read based on the slot when DV held it, or from what little dota has given?
I still dislike Johnny’s playstyle – it feels like he sinks way too easily into adhom territory when provoked. I don’t have a good read on him right now.
Don't call people angleshooters, and we won't have a problem.
I have posted much more than that ugly business and w.e kpaca is meta reading about me. Why don't you have an actual read on anything else I have posted?
Wuffles, your entire read post feels more like a commentation on the game rather than your own individual reads.
(With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch)Day 2 ends on July 23rd at 2000 Mountain time.
Ok, so I've been wanting to take a look at this. As I've stated before, I thought the Anuk Lynch was bad, and he flipped town. It seemed very much baseless, much like my initial run up. So who was on both?
No one!!!??? Well Osi was, but I don't see Osi as having the slightest chance of being scum and having an ability that takes away their primary tool, the night phase. This isn't going to help... I still stand by my observation that LW and Grape sat in the wings and made bad excuses to vote for me, but never did, which would indicate a fear of hammering town and hoping to talk others into hammering me for them.
That's the only reasoning I can deduce from these VCs. As I mentioned before, part of my frustration was that a lot of my town reads were voting me, I think the scum afraid to hammer town theory is the only one that works here. Can anyone else see anything in these VC's?
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
Any chance I can get you to vote Grape? Lmao
Just sayin
Mine was even more relevant
Think gj was just giving him buddy treatment. Can't really eliminate him from many teams.
Still don't find him scummy.
Idk maybe I'm pocketed we've agreed a bunch and he defended me a bit.
Just...
Nah
Come on. Gj's pressure vote provides no pressure.
Fake news.
And fine, I'll give you that my read on Grape is mostly tonal, and my tonal reads aren't the best, and there is also some of his comments that he has made that I don't like
Same for pretty much wuffles...
And the same goes for Kami's post trying to vote me, that I derp cleared, looking back, i don't really like that tone, compared to GJ
Translation please?
"10 out of 10 post" is what I said and I put the /s which means it's sarcasm...
I pointed put that his "pressure vote" provided no pressure
I expected questions especially from him. I got none.
What do you want,lw?
If you're scum reading me on tone that's a dangerous game. Tone is the main thing I'm able to keep constant. Plus every "pity party" post you've pointed at was intended to be funny. Just didn't come out that way because I'm not funny.
either way, Ill be gone till late tomorrow, or Monday. o/
lol
If you don't know if I was on a recent crucial train or not and you've made almost 5 times as many posts as I have I don't really think it's worth trying to convince you.
and I love playing mafia, what can I say
seriously who are you even scum reading? I should start making a list of everyone and who they think is scummy, cause I swear I dont see any of that
My scum team is you/wuffles, kami/tom, rodemy, and fuwa? do you have any opinions at all on any of them?
Do you think GJ is scummy?
Do you think Vezok is still scummy?
like even if I choose to put GJ and Vezok into PoE, you are still there, doing barely anything
also my memory is dwindling thats why I might repeat questions a lot, dont see why you couldnt just say if you were or werent on that train...
Will try again tomorrow.
Like I love your enthusiasm and effort. I just sincerely wish you would put some of that effort into private notes that would help you remember the facts of the game.
And I know from experience that you very very very rarely have your mind changed by someone directly telling you something but often have it changed by (good posting) even from scum reads.
As for your scum team Wuffles, KA, fuwa, and Rod is comical levels of just failing wolves. Plus I think Rod is really townie and fuwa reasonably so.
And I know from experience that you very very very rarely have your mind changed by someone directly telling you something but often have it changed by (good posting) even from scum reads.
wrong because I stopped having doubts about terry being a scum doctor, because of things Osie and others have said about it being unusual in a normal game, Kami also made a post about it
and the only time Ive seen my self be swayed by good posting is, maybe Osie in in COD Mafia, and you in Token Mafia, and you were my scum lean going into day 3 even tho I knew I was dead, and token mafia again, was mostly just me playing...
As for your scum team Wuffles, KA, fuwa, and Rod is comical levels of just failing wolves. Plus I think Rod is really townie and fuwa reasonably so.
ok so whos your scum team?
I agree tho that I should make notes, but then again I probably wouldnt even know what to put into my notes
so you thought he was scummy, but you were afraid terry was gunna be hammered by scum? Put him into L1, see who votes him, its all information, it literally makes no sense for you to have no voted him in that situation.
So explain to me exactly why you didnt want to vote him
Let's do it this way: who thinks Terry is town and why?
you said this 2 days ago, and this literally means you think the opposite of what you were asking? which means you did indeed scum read him? so you didnt vote because why? and dont say its because it was L2 again
@LW Not letting people lynch/pressure strong town reads is a good way to play fwiw. And I'd argue that your premise doesn't make sense. I'm not buying the spoiler mishap as a town!firm for Kami but if he was scum I don't think his intention was to push a mislynch. I think it was to fake a town!firm. After F&E I'm not ever buying derp clears. Ever. Too easy to fake. But you're making up nonsense reasoning to not clear him.
like I get to the point where I actually agree that Kami can be scum, which you also think is true, but argue my point on intention was wrong, even if it leads to the same conclusion as your point, which is him being scum... and what did you even mean by fake a town!firm?
To be fair you did ask for a scum team multiple times when his provided scum team is the reason you should be voting him. Not that it makes threats acceptable. In any way.
like ^^^, lol, but not enough for you to vote him?
and there was a time where I pulled my vote off and Terry wasnt at L2, so whats ur excuse then?
grape isn't funny at all
I don't have a team but I suspect wuffles, Vez, GJ, KA, and dota without any confidence that they make any sense as a team. Mostly I think I'm wrong in a town read but don't know which and will need scum flips to figure it out.
As for notes keep tallies of what you think is AI and why it is. Helps keep reads from getting stale.
Your stance on voting to put him to L1 is bad mafia. And after he claimed I didn't want to vote him.
I might put an eye into the thread here and there, but don't count on posting.
Unvote
Wouldn't lynch:
Dan
DoTA
Tom
Might lynch:
GJ
Grapefruit
Kpaca
Lastwhisper
Rodemy
Terry
Vezok
Would lynch:
Fuwa
Kami
Vaimes
Wuffles
Well he has kind of vanished and him addressing like 6 people per post could be a way to try to get over his hatred of posting as scum. Hmmmm.... Time to go check my notes and see why I liked him again.
Grapefruit21 - 3 (Wuffles_II, Lastwhisper, vezokpiraka)
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - 2 (DoTArchon, kpaca)
DoTArchon - 1 (KamikazeArchon)
Lastwhisper - 1 (Rodemy)
osieorb18 - 1 (Fuwa)
vezokpiraka - 1 (TheRealStinkyJoeTerry)
Wuffles_II - 1 (Ganderin_dan)
Gandarin_dan - 1 (tomsloger)
Rodemy - 1 (Gentleman Johnny)
Not Voting - 3 (Grapefruit21, Vaimes, osieorb18)
(With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch)
Lastwhisper is V/LA until July 16th
Rodemy is V/LA until July 16th
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry is V/LA until July 16
osieorb18 is V/LA until July 17
Wuffles_II is V/LA until July 18
Day 2 ends on July 23rd at 2000 Mountain time.
1. Vezokpiraka
Vezok is, as always, difficult to read for me, because his style and mine are very different. I look for quality of arguments and logic, while he tends to be a bit more feely in his reads. While he and wisp have a lot of similarities in that they tend to go with their gut-reads a lot more than many players, Vezok’s town game seems to involve him coming to a conclusion on a player and then sitting on that read confidently until his gut tells him different. This is very different to, say, me, who relies on what people are currently saying in comparison to what they’ve previously said and so I tend to blanket read him as town if he’s posting confidently and not paying too much attention outside of his bubble.
He’s definitely doing his town thing this game and his tracker claim, while I am watching for it because of K-Dog’s claim that his role would mean that a tracker isn’t likely to be in the game, but at this stage I don’t see any scumminess or anything that strikes me as un-vezok in his posts. So I’m good with Vez for now.
2. Vaimes
Man. I wish I could read Vaimes. From what I’ve read of his games (barebones in particular) he can be a bit of a bulldog at times, but his town play does allow for flexibility – the example being in barebones when he reluctantly conceded his scum read of Silver that he’d had all game in favour of finally going after the (up until that point) Tom-led mafia power wolfing that was running away with the game to win from out of ******* nowhere.
I don’t know enough about his scum game to say if his play this game has been Vaimes-scummy; if anything I’d lean town because he seems to be having the same difficulties as me getting enthused about posting, which is probably not a good read but the only one I have without reading back to the D_V days and screw that.
3. Osieorb18
Osie is either town and a huge detriment to the scum, or is scum AND fake-claiming an IC AND has a role that ****s the scum over, hard. I’d be terrified if the second option were the case because there would need to be a HELL of a lot of power in the remaining scums to account for the gigantic dick-punch that his role demonstrably delivers to their chances. Missing night phases is incredibly damaging for the scums and I think that even if he wasn’t already spewing town from his day 1 play that the claim is mechanically extremely unlikely to be a mafia role.
4. Grapefruit21
Ugh. I don’t know about this guy. He was blatantly playing his scum meta at one point – but whether or not that was because he was like me trying to fall back on easy reads in order to contribute to a game that I’ve found hard is anyone’s guess. I’m still leaning scum on him if nothing super town-spewy comes out of my re-read.
5. Kpaca
He cooks, he cleans, he uses the tools within his means, but his play with his cryptic counter-claim of Vezok – idk man. And his faykill with wisp does suggest that they’re either both or neither scum. In general, though, he‘s definitely on the hunt and that makes me lean town on him.
6. Wuffles_II
This guy’s town. And a tad demotivated. And pretty anxious about his lack of inactivity, because if he were the mod he’d be getting pretty angry at the lack of participation, which makes him more anxious, which makes it harder to participate, etc. ☹
7. Ganderin_dan
I haven’t had much of a read on Dan this game. I totally accept that he has made a lot of content, but none of it has really jumped out at me. Hopefully an opinion comes out of a re-read.
8. Rodemy
God Dammit Rodemy.
9. KamikazeArchon
Leaning scum on this guy. His attempt at a derpclear felt really forced and (as something I deliberately tried to do in Token as scum) forced-seeming derps tend to come from scum. He had enough time to see that the thread had already clarified that spoilers weren’t working and for him to jump on someone for “the mod not having reported their alignment” feels super dumb and more like something I’d expect to be done for derptown credit rather than as a derp. If it were me or wisp doing it, then, maybe. We’re both ADD and miss stuff often (at least, I do)
10. TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Man, IDK. I’m not into lynching a claimed doctor but if I were…Terry’s had a few pretty bad posts. Going all-in on the Kami derpclear is bad. Super bad.
12. Tomsloger
No read on Tom except that he seems to be seriously lacking the energy and aggressive hunting style he showed me with TownSloger in Token. I get the feeling that he’s finding it similarly difficult to do stuff right now though as I am. No real read but gun to head leaning slightly scum.
13. Lastwhisper
Wisp seems to somehow have the energy to comment on everything this game like a hyperactive chihuahua using all four of his legs to type into four keyboards at once.
He’s super active and super feely and gutread-ish as I’ve come to expect from Town wisp. It’s for this reason that I suspect that Kpaca is town after the Faykill because I don’t think that scum Kpac would try that for townie points if Wisp is town – the likelihood of him being scum goes up if wisp is his buddy as it would be easy to co-ordinate wisp’s response in that scenario.
But I don’t think Wisp giving this much and being so transparently feely in this game can really be anything but town wisp doing his thing. ++town to him. (And no, I’m not trying to pocket you this game, Wisp, because jesus your flip-flopping is irritating me on a personal playstyle level).
14. DotArchon
He doesn’t post much. He posted almost never in Arkham and got vigged and flipped scum. That’s literally all I have on him. Not that I’m much better this game so far. >_<
15. Fuwa
People seem to think that Fuwa got better around page 40? I don’t know if I agree with that, but I’ll have a re-read of her ISO when I get the chance if my re-read comes out with any questions about her.
16. Gentleman Johnny
Why is Johnny being TCM a big deal for Kpaca? Did K-dog explain that and I missed it? He seemed pretty keen on him from page 43-44 but backed off immediately when told what his other identities were.
I still dislike Johnny’s playstyle – it feels like he sinks way too easily into adhom territory when provoked. I don’t have a good read on him right now.
TL;DR:
Town:
Wuffles
Osie
Wisp
Vezok
Leaning town
Vaimes
Kpaca
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (because mechanics)
Neutral/no read
Gentleman_Johnny
Fuwa
DotArchon
Ganderin_Dan
Rodemy
Leaning scum/currently scumreading
TomSloger
Kami
Grapefruit
FAKE NEWS!
I asked you to state the game state after Terry's claim. Where are you at? You have basiclly been coasting for the last two days. My pressure vote makes tons of sense, and the only thing that doesn't is your set of actions this game if you are town.
If your dota read based on the slot when DV held it, or from what little dota has given?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Don't call people angleshooters, and we won't have a problem.
I have posted much more than that ugly business and w.e kpaca is meta reading about me. Why don't you have an actual read on anything else I have posted?
Wuffles, your entire read post feels more like a commentation on the game rather than your own individual reads.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Busy weekend and new position at work, so posts are going to be sparse/later in the evening for the next week or two.
I went to Go Fest and caught a **** ton of torkoals. Good weekend. Especially when it's in your backyard.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Dota, gonna justify that naked vote?
No one!!!??? Well Osi was, but I don't see Osi as having the slightest chance of being scum and having an ability that takes away their primary tool, the night phase. This isn't going to help... I still stand by my observation that LW and Grape sat in the wings and made bad excuses to vote for me, but never did, which would indicate a fear of hammering town and hoping to talk others into hammering me for them.
That's the only reasoning I can deduce from these VCs. As I mentioned before, part of my frustration was that a lot of my town reads were voting me, I think the scum afraid to hammer town theory is the only one that works here. Can anyone else see anything in these VC's?