2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think it's pretty outrageous to suppose that I shouldn't speculate on what you'll flip. Obviously I'm fallible - I'm a person (though I'd never admit that, here. Whoops, guess I just did!). But if I don't go into Night expecting what you're going to flip, then I'm wasting the Night by not re-reading for more information based on what you're likely to flip. I'm not trying to be an ********, but you've played Mafia for 4 years and this concept eludes you?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Retrying the earlier post about Iso being lackluster.
Iso's post was intentionally lackluster in that it didn't include evidence for anything. But he made it very clear this was by design. If I were in Ruma's spot being pushed by Iso doing that I'd think "hmmm maybe Iso is scum using this 'I'm so good at solving I'd accidentally out Mason's if I gave reads on everything' excuse not to justify his reads is because he's scum trying to coast" but Ruma doesn't really seem to consider that. His thought process seems to be "Iso didn't justify his reads, and scum don't like to justify their reads, so he's scum" which feels like a less inquisitive and townie line of thought to have.
He also overly focuses on the idea that Iso's post is bad due to lack of time/effort or being and never engages with the idea that Iso is intentionally withholding information at all. I'd expect town!Ruma here engage with that intentional lack of effort at all but he doesn't. Just used as more reason to suspect/push Iso.
You're reading an awful lot into my posts without actually reading my posts.
"I'm a bad player. Don't lynch me."
Your reading an awful lot int my posts without getting the point.
Great, I see talking to you is now a waste of my time as you're going to just cherrypick what you respond to and not actually address my case against you. Thanks for clearing that up, for me.
Retrying the earlier post about Iso being lackluster.
Iso's post was intentionally lackluster in that it didn't include evidence for anything. But he made it very clear this was by design. If I were in Ruma's spot being pushed by Iso doing that I'd think "hmmm maybe Iso is scum using this 'I'm so good at solving I'd accidentally out Mason's if I gave reads on everything' excuse not to justify his reads is because he's scum trying to coast" but Ruma doesn't really seem to consider that. His thought process seems to be "Iso didn't justify his reads, and scum don't like to justify their reads, so he's scum" which feels like a less inquisitive and townie line of thought to have.
He also overly focuses on the idea that Iso's post is bad due to lack of time/effort or being and never engages with the idea that Iso is intentionally withholding information at all. I'd expect town!Ruma here engage with that intentional lack of effort at all but he doesn't. Just used as more reason to suspect/push Iso.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Retrying the earlier post about Iso being lackluster.
Iso's post was intentionally lackluster in that it didn't include evidence for anything. But he made it very clear this was by design. If I were in Ruma's spot being pushed by Iso doing that I'd think "hmmm maybe Iso is scum using this 'I'm so good at solving I'd accidentally out Mason's if I gave reads on everything' excuse not to justify his reads is because he's scum trying to coast" but Ruma doesn't really seem to consider that. His thought process seems to be "Iso didn't justify his reads, and scum don't like to justify their reads, so he's scum" which feels like a less inquisitive and townie line of thought to have.
He also overly focuses on the idea that Iso's post is bad due to lack of time/effort or being and never engages with the idea that Iso is intentionally withholding information at all. I'd expect town!Ruma here engage with that intentional lack of effort at all but he doesn't. Just used as more reason to suspect/push Iso.
And he doesn't even when I tried to walk him to that idea and get him to latch onto it. Just not interested in the idea that Iso is being intentionally withholding and what that means for reading Iso and if it's beneficial or harmful to the thread.
I think it's pretty outrageous to suppose that I shouldn't speculate on what you'll flip. Obviously I'm fallible - I'm a person (though I'd never admit that, here. Whoops, guess I just did!). But if I don't go into Night expecting what you're going to flip, then I'm wasting the Night by not re-reading for more information based on what you're likely to flip. I'm not trying to be an ********, but you've played Mafia for 4 years and this concept eludes you?
No, you gave two definites. "He's either 12 years old to be making this, or scum." This is not a towny way of looking at things. It's ignorant to assume that their are only two certainties in a game where there are 13 players, with 7 vanilla townies, 3 masons and 3 scum. The automatic assumption of scum if I'm not twelve years old is ignorant, and I'd think someone trying to argue for intelligence would understand such a simple fact.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think it's pretty outrageous to suppose that I shouldn't speculate on what you'll flip. Obviously I'm fallible - I'm a person (though I'd never admit that, here. Whoops, guess I just did!). But if I don't go into Night expecting what you're going to flip, then I'm wasting the Night by not re-reading for more information based on what you're likely to flip. I'm not trying to be an ********, but you've played Mafia for 4 years and this concept eludes you?
No, you gave two definites. "He's either 12 years old to be making this, or scum." This is not a towny way of looking at things. It's ignorant to assume that their are only two certainties in a game where there are 13 players, with 7 vanilla townies, 3 masons and 3 scum. The automatic assumption of scum if I'm not twelve years old is ignorant, and I'd think someone trying to argue for intelligence would understand such a simple fact.
I know I said I was wasting my time talking to you but I have to laugh at this. "You don't KNOW that I'm scum! I COULD be town because there are townies in this game!" It's like lynching fluffyn00b in Supernatural Mafia all over again. I love this.
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
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"Maybe you should be looking at yourself and think, "How did I get caught so easily?" rather than deflecting on to the person who's only been in the game long enough to make one or two posts of actual substance with that disingenuous garbage argument."
Oh, look, the assumption that I am scum defending myself, with an intonation of pride.
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"With regards to my post in question, there's absolutely no way you can be arguing in good faith that I'm scum. You're impetuous and expect us to think "trolling the game" is somehow a constructive manner of play. Your manner of sarcasm is ill-developed and you take a lot as a personal affront. You speak of "chaos" like it's this edgy and cool thing that somehow assists your understanding of the world around you. This, to me, speaks either of your maturity as a person, or of the fact that you're upset about something in the game. Since you're not actually 12, therefore, I can only assume that you're upset due to being caught so early in a Mafia game. This is an understandable reaction - nobody likes screwing it up for their team so early on in the game. I think this narrative is aided further by the fact that instead of attempting to persuade me into understanding your "alternative interpretations" of your mindset right now, you're trying to talk around me to the other players and attempting to smear me in doing so."
I can't link you to the theory behind it cause MAL is down. You are creating your own narrative. I just don't care for your bias.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So, you're either bias, or scum? Cool, so my view of you hasn't changed this entire conversation! You could be scum, you could be bias.
The automatic assumption of scum if I'm not biased is ignorant, and I'd think someone trying to argue for intelligence would understand such a simple fact.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So, you're either bias, or scum? Cool, so my view of you hasn't changed this entire conversation! You could be scum, you could be bias.
The automatic assumption of scum if I'm not biased is ignorant, and I'd think someone trying to argue for intelligence would understand such a simple fact.
Alright, please provide a third option then. Hey, look! I'm open to suggestions!
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Can we lynch Vezo instead? There is a part of me that thinks this is just Ruma. If Vezo flips scum then I will wholeheartedly push Ruma as well, but right now I'm more confident of the Vezo read which says a lot.
Can we lynch Vezo instead? There is a part of me that thinks this is just Ruma. If Vezo flips scum then I will wholeheartedly push Ruma as well, but right now I'm more confident of the Vezo read which says a lot.
I can not advocate a vezok lynch at this point in time.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think I mentioned before, but I don't care if I get lynched. I'm expecting to be lynched. I just wanted to leave behind my thoughts before I do get lynched. Because, when I flip, you'll see whether or not my intent was what you were. I am disgusted with your attitude of 'Oh, he's so totally definitely scum and I'm proud to have found this!' when it's not solid until a flip..
You being disgusted with Iso for essentially being too confident you're a wolf only makes sense in the world where you know he can't know you're a wolf, because you know he's a villager.
when I flip, you'll see whether or not my intent was what you were
You're talking to this guy - and this is a person you threw shade at like 10 seconds ago - from the perspective of them being a villager seeing you flip. In the world where Iso's a wolf and you're a villager, he already knows you're being genuine in your intention; he doesn't have to guess and he wouldn't have any new information when you flipped. You're talking to this guy like you know he's a villager, and again, this is a guy you just threw shade at.
Can we move on to D2 now? I don't think I'm moving my vote and at this point this is starting to feel like bullying.
I don't know he's a villager... I know my role. My assumptions are based on the information I possess. Even if he's scum, I'm still disgusted.
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Can we lynch Vezo instead? There is a part of me that thinks this is just Ruma. If Vezo flips scum then I will wholeheartedly push Ruma as well, but right now I'm more confident of the Vezo read which says a lot.
Grape, you are bad at reading me. I'll come back with a better explanation for the mikey case late today.
Do you actually believe I could be scum with Ruma? I've pushed him all day and the two wagons are me and him. Do you think we colluded in the scum thread to make this incredible bussing routine and hope we can survive 4 more lynches with 3 masons?
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Can we lynch Vezo instead? There is a part of me that thinks this is just Ruma. If Vezo flips scum then I will wholeheartedly push Ruma as well, but right now I'm more confident of the Vezo read which says a lot.
Grape, you are bad at reading me. I'll come back with a better explanation for the mikey case late today.
Do you actually believe I could be scum with Ruma? I've pushed him all day and the two wagons are me and him. Do you think we colluded in the scum thread to make this incredible bussing routine and hope we can survive 4 more lynches with 3 masons?
I actually want to hear this extra part about the Mikey case tbh.
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I mean if there was ever a setup that called for a turbo bus to try and clear the other this would be the setup. Especially if the third wolf was a deep wolf.
I think I mentioned before, but I don't care if I get lynched. I'm expecting to be lynched. I just wanted to leave behind my thoughts before I do get lynched. Because, when I flip, you'll see whether or not my intent was what you were. I am disgusted with your attitude of 'Oh, he's so totally definitely scum and I'm proud to have found this!' when it's not solid until a flip..
You being disgusted with Iso for essentially being too confident you're a wolf only makes sense in the world where you know he can't know you're a wolf, because you know he's a villager.
when I flip, you'll see whether or not my intent was what you were
You're talking to this guy - and this is a person you threw shade at like 10 seconds ago - from the perspective of them being a villager seeing you flip. In the world where Iso's a wolf and you're a villager, he already knows you're being genuine in your intention; he doesn't have to guess and he wouldn't have any new information when you flipped. You're talking to this guy like you know he's a villager, and again, this is a guy you just threw shade at.
Can we move on to D2 now? I don't think I'm moving my vote and at this point this is starting to feel like bullying.
I mean if there was ever a setup that called for a turbo bus to try and clear the other this would be the setup. Especially if the third wolf was a deep wolf.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
How is it a good idea to bus in this setup? Please explain.
Because it's a tough setup for scum and calls for drastic measures. 3 mislynchs and 3 near ICs is a huge deal. Unfortunately we've already outed one VT making keeping my buddies alive is going to be tricky.
@Iso I don't have a strong read on a wolf in the town block (otherwise I wouldn't have them as town) but I have two people I'm paranoid about and want to see more from.
I actually want to hear this extra part about the Mikey case tbh.
Vezok: "I think mikey is scum for [weak reasons]"
Me: "those are pretty weak reasons"
Vezok: "instead, I think mikey is scum for these reasons"
Grapefruit: "that's scummy dawg"
Basically just vezok having two suspicions of me that seemed unconnected. It makes the reasoning look fake.
@Rumanshi
If you're the likely lynch, and assert that you will flip town, you claim that your play is to provide information for the remaining townies. Why won't you provide more information on your reads? What sort of information are you hoping we'll be able to glean from your back and forth with Iso?
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Dbs derpclear makes me rethink my whole evaluation of this game because of how close they are in my mind to killjoy
My post tonight will either be confirmation bias or developing a new hypothesis
Vaimes might be scum
I’m pretty much volume cleared. Never, ever been top poster as scum, never mind by such a big margin. I think I have twice as many posts as the second top poster, maybe more.
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
"I'm a bad player. Don't lynch me."
Your reading an awful lot int my posts without getting the point.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Iso's post was intentionally lackluster in that it didn't include evidence for anything. But he made it very clear this was by design. If I were in Ruma's spot being pushed by Iso doing that I'd think "hmmm maybe Iso is scum using this 'I'm so good at solving I'd accidentally out Mason's if I gave reads on everything' excuse not to justify his reads is because he's scum trying to coast" but Ruma doesn't really seem to consider that. His thought process seems to be "Iso didn't justify his reads, and scum don't like to justify their reads, so he's scum" which feels like a less inquisitive and townie line of thought to have.
He also overly focuses on the idea that Iso's post is bad due to lack of time/effort or being and never engages with the idea that Iso is intentionally withholding information at all. I'd expect town!Ruma here engage with that intentional lack of effort at all but he doesn't. Just used as more reason to suspect/push Iso.
Great, I see talking to you is now a waste of my time as you're going to just cherrypick what you respond to and not actually address my case against you. Thanks for clearing that up, for me.
Okay, gotcha - thanks for clarifying.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
And he doesn't even when I tried to walk him to that idea and get him to latch onto it. Just not interested in the idea that Iso is being intentionally withholding and what that means for reading Iso and if it's beneficial or harmful to the thread.
Hope this mess is more coherent.
No, you gave two definites. "He's either 12 years old to be making this, or scum." This is not a towny way of looking at things. It's ignorant to assume that their are only two certainties in a game where there are 13 players, with 7 vanilla townies, 3 masons and 3 scum. The automatic assumption of scum if I'm not twelve years old is ignorant, and I'd think someone trying to argue for intelligence would understand such a simple fact.
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I know I said I was wasting my time talking to you but I have to laugh at this. "You don't KNOW that I'm scum! I COULD be town because there are townies in this game!" It's like lynching fluffyn00b in Supernatural Mafia all over again. I love this.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Oh, look, the assumption that I am scum defending myself, with an intonation of pride.
I can't link you to the theory behind it cause MAL is down. You are creating your own narrative. I just don't care for your bias.
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So, you're either bias, or scum? Cool, so my view of you hasn't changed this entire conversation! You could be scum, you could be bias.
Agree to disagree. Not mentioning it at all before I did is definitely scummier than commenting on it on your own though.
The automatic assumption of scum if I'm not biased is ignorant, and I'd think someone trying to argue for intelligence would understand such a simple fact.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Alright, please provide a third option then. Hey, look! I'm open to suggestions!
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Back in 24 hours. Gimme lots of fun stuff to read.
Oh? But I'm around now. Let's at least prepare you for the future. Given I'm not scum, who is your next best scum read?
Awww c'mon, you were much more fun.
Maybe you missed the part where I said I wasn't doing that.
I can not advocate a vezok lynch at this point in time.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't know he's a villager... I know my role. My assumptions are based on the information I possess. Even if he's scum, I'm still disgusted.
Grape, you are bad at reading me. I'll come back with a better explanation for the mikey case late today.
Do you actually believe I could be scum with Ruma? I've pushed him all day and the two wagons are me and him. Do you think we colluded in the scum thread to make this incredible bussing routine and hope we can survive 4 more lynches with 3 masons?
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I actually want to hear this extra part about the Mikey case tbh.
Will you marry me?
Curious as to your thoughts on who that might be.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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Because it's a tough setup for scum and calls for drastic measures. 3 mislynchs and 3 near ICs is a huge deal. Unfortunately we've already outed one VT making keeping my buddies alive is going to be tricky.
@Iso I don't have a strong read on a wolf in the town block (otherwise I wouldn't have them as town) but I have two people I'm paranoid about and want to see more from.
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Get yourself together grape. I've never wanted to edit a post so badly, so quickly.
Vezok: "I think mikey is scum for [weak reasons]"
Me: "those are pretty weak reasons"
Vezok: "instead, I think mikey is scum for these reasons"
Grapefruit: "that's scummy dawg"
Basically just vezok having two suspicions of me that seemed unconnected. It makes the reasoning look fake.
If you're the likely lynch, and assert that you will flip town, you claim that your play is to provide information for the remaining townies. Why won't you provide more information on your reads? What sort of information are you hoping we'll be able to glean from your back and forth with Iso?
Vote: Rumanshi
Dbs derpclear makes me rethink my whole evaluation of this game because of how close they are in my mind to killjoy
My post tonight will either be confirmation bias or developing a new hypothesis
Vaimes might be scum
I’m pretty much volume cleared. Never, ever been top poster as scum, never mind by such a big margin. I think I have twice as many posts as the second top poster, maybe more.