I'm just going to cut to the chase with this one. All actions need to be submitted through PM. If such an action was possible a day scene might follow upon receiving a PM.
does that mean we don't get to see the flip until the Day ends?
No, it means Terry wasn't supposed to announce the target in thread so even if the gun still works he didn't actually activate it.
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I'm just going to cut to the chase with this one. All actions need to be submitted through PM. If such an action was possible a day scene might follow upon receiving a PM.
does that mean we don't get to see the flip until the Day ends?
No it means that these actions can only be taken through PM.
If such an action was sent to me as soon as I could I would resolve the action.
the 3rd sentence made it confusing. but ok.
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Scum!Shadow or Town!Shadow:
A glorious game of guess my alignment!
(Bonus points if you can name the game)
Round 1 winner: Dawning!
I was town, the game was Dark and Stormy Night Mafia!
Second round:
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Frankly I need to read that again because I don’t remember your push on him. Part of it is I think your play looks much more like daft scum![player] that can get away with whatever the crap you want, and I’m not ready to eat crow and say you’re just town.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Scum!Shadow or Town!Shadow:
A glorious game of guess my alignment!
(Bonus points if you can name the game)
Round 1 winner: Dawning!
I was town, the game was Dark and Stormy Night Mafia!
Second round:
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Frankly I need to read that again because I don’t remember your push on him. Part of it is I think your play looks much more like daft scum![player] that can get away with whatever the crap you want, and I’m not ready to eat crow and say you’re just town.
grats me this one looks harder though... scum?
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I agree, I don't think we need to waste much more time letting him pollute this thread.
I wouldn’t say it’s entirely fair to accuse me of polluting the thread; I’m trying to make my own lemonade, not intentionally at the expense of anyone.
(Also I’ve decided for current and future rounds of Scum!shadow or Town!Shadow to wait until someone has answered both alignments, so as to keep it fair. Or you know, like enough time that no one else is replying)
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
If there isn't a lynch sometime in the next ~5 hours I might look at the votals again for you guys, I've just been pretty swamped and mostly phone posting the last few days.
There is a singular hatred that lurks in the hidden places of the world. Apocryphal writings speak of black-litten N'kai, deep beneath the earth; home to such malice as to horrify even that most debased of civilizations, the immortal and ennui-drowned residents of K'n-yan. And the gates to N'kai were sealed, and the Things that had crawled out of it were put down. But it is said that some stole away relics of N'kai; detestable images of a squat, frog-like being, and so that malice has crept up onto the surface. And when the poison of such hate fills the minds of men, they turn to naught but depravity and destruction; such that even in their last moments, they will visit their spite upon those around them, and their final acts shall be desecration, and their final words will be curses and blasphemies.
If there isn't a lynch sometime in the next ~5 hours I might look at the votals again for you guys, I've just been pretty swamped and mostly phone posting the last few days.
What do you think about murdering someone tonight since I didn't get my shot? It would pretty much eliminate the strong play that scum made by destroying the gun. We could Lynch shadow and vote someone for you to shoot tonight. If you don't we will all throw holy water on you (+6 sanity for 2x holy waters) and you'll die.
I'm willing to do whatever you guys want but it'll be a hard sell with Tom/Iso/Cyan/dawning/Grape all (likely) opposed plus whoever else is opposed but didn't say so.
Cyan, it is almost certainly the right course for you to bandage me tonight. I fear that without the reprieve of the bandages, something else might happen to my mind, and push me over the edge. To say nothing of the possibility that the cultists may wish to outright murder me.
The cultists may attempt to interfere with these plans. If someone can, I suggest anyone who is particularly keen-eyed keep observation on either Cyan or myself. If we should perish, or be unable to act, at least some knowledge will be gained from it.
I'm not campaigning one way or the other, to be clear, and will likely elect to die toMorrow regardless of what else is decided. I already said I don't want anywhere near LyLo and I meant it.
With the weapon gone, I would rather not have Silver commit suicide today (presuming he is telling the truth). There is certainly a risk that this is an exceptionally brave gambit by a murderer, but I am willing to take that risk for now. If Silver is evil and we fail to stop him today, we still have a good period of time to act.
I strongly dislike how Iso has been claiming to be proven or near-proven innocent; nothing of the sort is true. I am half tempted to suggest that Silver shoots him this night.
Cyan, it is almost certainly the right course for you to bandage me tonight. I fear that without the reprieve of the bandages, something else might happen to my mind, and push me over the edge. To say nothing of the possibility that the cultists may wish to outright murder me.
The cultists may attempt to interfere with these plans. If someone can, I suggest anyone who is particularly keen-eyed keep observation on either Cyan or myself. If we should perish, or be unable to act, at least some knowledge will be gained from it.
Silver
the only way I am aligned with anyone, is if they are town... plz stop
The wagons do not care about your insistence that you aren't a wolf. They whisper to me that one of you is one.
They aren't infallible, of course, they're only as good as my town reads on the other off-wagon players.
Buuuut. With the DoTA wagon likely to be clean because of how strong his role was and all the town clears there plus shadow spree on dawning, there's either three on Vezok and one off or two on/two off, and if tom's town there's like, probably 99% one in you/Gemma and another in my towns.
Like, I suppose it could just be four on Vezok and it's just like, tom/Killjoy left or something, but, seems unlikely in my opinion.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I bid on the two questionable items. I will not use the mask ever. Grapefruit, feel free to quote your auction number and bid over me if you want to devour the mask.
@RE1031 LOL me too except that he'd still die if he had drunk the potion from not being able to vote that day and therefore not being on the lynch wagon hahahahahha
Someone should do a votecount, probably. Shadow had like three votes before we found out the gun was broken. I ~think~ he's at L-2 or something but if he's already hammered the present discussion might be more academic than useful.
@Iso, Dawning, tom: Gitgud. Unless you're scum, then I hope you get lynched instead, of course.
@villagers: don't let tom slide and pay attention to my post about shadow's spew.
I'm still relatively sure there's one in Last/Gwen and tom has a good chance of being the third on Vezok's wagon.
And don't forget; I did not kill DoTA. There's likely a serial killer about.
1. Iso goes down over my dead body. idk about Tom but he should be able to fend for himself.
2. Shadow is hard to read, so I'm not sure how credible your guess is. I do think you could be town though (had a similarly SK'ish role in ZE so it could be a thing). Gwen is now Wuffles, and Last is likely a derp-clear. Tom....can fend for himself :3
3. or some PGO/bomb. I'm not sure SK will side town by shooting the counterwagon to town for us, it's anti their wincon.
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I mean, that was a legacy post dawning, not something to be debated. Lol.
Couldn't have been a PGO unless Terry is the PGO. I'm ~guessing~ he would have claimed it if he was.
SK might have actually thought DoTA was town. Or maybe it's their first time and they aren't really sure who to kill. Or they intended to claim vig down the line to get out of a lynch and I screwed them over.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Silver you know who the lynch is going to be. Why are you acting like you're not gonna vote him?
Because I'm not unless some large majority of people want me to live and shoot "whoever."
Like, you don't have to believe me, but I fully intend to die when the lynch goes through unless that happens.
@cyan I'm not trying to get out of anything, I just didn't want shadow to hammer himself and kill me unless that's what everyone wanted to have happen.
If I am alive, I *must* shoot tonight, and each night thereafter for as long as I live.
maybe you can shoot Shadow while we lynch as per usual. that way, we still get wagon info while you can confirm your loyalties. (slight problem if there's a roleblocker though)
I mean, that was a legacy post dawning, not something to be debated. Lol.
Couldn't have been a PGO unless Terry is the PGO. I'm ~guessing~ he would have claimed it if he was.
SK might have actually thought DoTA was town. Or maybe it's their first time and they aren't really sure who to kill. Or they intended to claim vig down the line to get out of a lynch and I screwed them over.
Kinda hope it's the last one, truth to tell.
oh ok. I still have a hard time believing it to be an SK kill, unless they know how to WIFOM the situation by actually shooting a counterwagon.
I vote that silver stays alive. He's way too deep on this for it to be a gambit and we're far enough ahead to just nuke him tomorrow if he shoots a value target.
I vote that silver stays alive. He's way too deep on this for it to be a gambit and we're far enough ahead to just nuke him tomorrow if he shoots a value target.
would like your input on this, do we lynch obv!scum or a suspect? lynching obv!scum kinda nullifies VC analysis.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Maybe I'll play game mod for a bit and keep a tally.
I'm against the "have me shoot shadow toNight and lynch a suspect" plan I think. Gives better wagon info but the lynch ~could~ be town and it gives shadow an extra night action.
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I was town, the game was Dark and Stormy Night Mafia!
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Also that's probably scum shadow gloating which annoys me to no end if Terry shot me over that.
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Staff@Iso, Dawning, tom: Gitgud. Unless you're scum, then I hope you get lynched instead, of course.
@Cyan: That Day 1 is pretty much what you get out of me Day 1, so.
@Terry: sorry about your gun. Really.
@Grape, Wuffles, Proph: I appreciate the votes of confidence, wish it had worked out.
@Kami: You're too good for this world.
@Shadow:
@villagers: don't let tom slide and pay attention to my post about shadow's spew.
I'm still relatively sure there's one in Last/Gwen and tom has a good chance of being the third on Vezok's wagon.
And don't forget; I did not kill DoTA. There's likely a serial killer about.
Signed, Silver.
I unvoted last page so when Shadow is lynched, I should flip as well.
I wish you had drunk the potion instead and not have a vote restriction. I've never seen a mandatory town vig in play before.
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the only way I am aligned with anyone, is if they are town... plz stop
The cultists may attempt to interfere with these plans. If someone can, I suggest anyone who is particularly keen-eyed keep observation on either Cyan or myself. If we should perish, or be unable to act, at least some knowledge will be gained from it.
I strongly dislike how Iso has been claiming to be proven or near-proven innocent; nothing of the sort is true. I am half tempted to suggest that Silver shoots him this night.
Alright.
The wagons do not care about your insistence that you aren't a wolf. They whisper to me that one of you is one.
They aren't infallible, of course, they're only as good as my town reads on the other off-wagon players.
Buuuut. With the DoTA wagon likely to be clean because of how strong his role was and all the town clears there plus shadow spree on dawning, there's either three on Vezok and one off or two on/two off, and if tom's town there's like, probably 99% one in you/Gemma and another in my towns.
Like, I suppose it could just be four on Vezok and it's just like, tom/Killjoy left or something, but, seems unlikely in my opinion.
I think I'm at 2 in favor and likely 5 or 6 vocally against?
It's ~probably~ not a good idea to let shadow self hammer and kill me if you want to do that.
1. Iso goes down over my dead body. idk about Tom but he should be able to fend for himself.
2. Shadow is hard to read, so I'm not sure how credible your guess is. I do think you could be town though (had a similarly SK'ish role in ZE so it could be a thing). Gwen is now Wuffles, and Last is likely a derp-clear. Tom....can fend for himself :3
3. or some PGO/bomb. I'm not sure SK will side town by shooting the counterwagon to town for us, it's anti their wincon.
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Couldn't have been a PGO unless Terry is the PGO. I'm ~guessing~ he would have claimed it if he was.
SK might have actually thought DoTA was town. Or maybe it's their first time and they aren't really sure who to kill. Or they intended to claim vig down the line to get out of a lynch and I screwed them over.
Kinda hope it's the last one, truth to tell.
Oh wow look. It's been like 12 hours and Silver is already trying to get out of his claim. What. A. Surprise.
Like, you don't have to believe me, but I fully intend to die when the lynch goes through unless that happens.
@cyan I'm not trying to get out of anything, I just didn't want shadow to hammer himself and kill me unless that's what everyone wanted to have happen.
oh ok. I still have a hard time believing it to be an SK kill, unless they know how to WIFOM the situation by actually shooting a counterwagon.
I noticed. still don't see why a neutral would want to help town by clearing the counterwagon question.
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Vote: Gemma
Shadow trying to distance by voting his buddy is possible.
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I also vote that DBS tells me why he's voting Gemma over shadow.
Maybe I'll play game mod for a bit and keep a tally.
I'm against the "have me shoot shadow toNight and lynch a suspect" plan I think. Gives better wagon info but the lynch ~could~ be town and it gives shadow an extra night action.