Terry, check out the staff of the yellow king. The Yellow king is an asshat, so I'd like to know what his item does and why we should avoid it.
That, or peek at holy water, as there are multiples for what I'm guessing is a good reason.
Of those, I would much prefer that you look at the Staff.
I think Terry should use the weapon that has returned to him, and use it on shadow. On the off chance that Rhand is lying, this gives us a window to take vengeance upon Rhand; if he is telling the truth, it gives us confirmation and allows us to evaluate the last day's interactions with full certainty.
We should split the remaining objects among those who are confirmed without question to be innocent. I would not mind having some of the money, but I would not be particularly more useful than anyone else with it.
vote: 9 silver to Wuffles vote: Twin Scepters to Wuffles vote: Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan to Terry
I am uncertain on the best use for the Puzzle Box. It is, after all, somewhat dangerous, and only useful to those with a multitude of skills or objects. Wuffles, Terry, do either of you want it?
@CYAN: Why do you think people wanted to give you the gun so bad?
Because I was right about Vezok and DOTA presumably.
I was really looking forward to having a daykill honestly. Oh well.
Talk to me here. I'm all ears.
Oh I don't know whom to target with it yet; I just liked the idea of having it. Daykills are so powerful and so fun. I need to re-assess the gamestate leading up to DOTA's vote on Vezok and figure out if just Shadow was enough reason for DOTA to hop on board there.
I still don't know why people think Iso is town, but many people seem to think he REALLY is.
@CYAN: Why do you think people wanted to give you the gun so bad?
Because I was right about Vezok and DOTA presumably.
I was really looking forward to having a daykill honestly. Oh well.
Talk to me here. I'm all ears.
Oh I don't know whom to target with it yet; I just liked the idea of having it. Daykills are so powerful and so fun. I need to re-assess the gamestate leading up to DOTA's vote on Vezok and figure out if just Shadow was enough reason for DOTA to hop on board there.
I still don't know why people think Iso is town, but many people seem to think he REALLY is.
I'm not really sold either way on ISO right now, but I do feel a bit of deja vu from a previous game where you expected ISO to be more solvey as town but he was town anyways.
Terry, check out the staff of the yellow king. The Yellow king is an asshat, so I'd like to know what his item does and why we should avoid it.
That, or peek at holy water, as there are multiples for what I'm guessing is a good reason.
Of those, I would much prefer that you look at the Staff.
I think Terry should use the weapon that has returned to him, and use it on shadow. On the off chance that Rhand is lying, this gives us a window to take vengeance upon Rhand; if he is telling the truth, it gives us confirmation and allows us to evaluate the last day's interactions with full certainty.
We should split the remaining objects among those who are confirmed without question to be innocent. I would not mind having some of the money, but I would not be particularly more useful than anyone else with it.
vote: 9 silver to Wuffles vote: Twin Scepters to Wuffles vote: Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan to Terry
I am uncertain on the best use for the Puzzle Box. It is, after all, somewhat dangerous, and only useful to those with a multitude of skills or objects. Wuffles, Terry, do either of you want it?
I don't want the puzzle box. I mean I'll take it for safekeeping, but I don't really want it.
Terry, you should shortly be informed of something. That something will explain at least two earlier statements I made. I would like your opinion on whether this something should be publicly revealed, as it will affect other decisions that we must make very soon - and specifically your personal decision.
@CYAN: Why do you think people wanted to give you the gun so bad?
Because I was right about Vezok and DOTA presumably.
I was really looking forward to having a daykill honestly. Oh well.
Talk to me here. I'm all ears.
Oh I don't know whom to target with it yet; I just liked the idea of having it. Daykills are so powerful and so fun. I need to re-assess the gamestate leading up to DOTA's vote on Vezok and figure out if just Shadow was enough reason for DOTA to hop on board there.
I still don't know why people think Iso is town, but many people seem to think he REALLY is.
I'm not really sold either way on ISO right now, but I do feel a bit of deja vu from a previous game where you expected ISO to be more solvey as town but he was town anyways.
I don't remember that happening any time recently in a game where Iso was town? Also, the way that he got the Vezok wagon going and then moved off of it(while not trying to stop it) is a really bad look.
We can pull the trigger together Cyan. I think it would be therapeutic for us.
If no one wants the puzzle box we should give it to Grape and have him disappear it.
I'll make another post later with my feelings so far, but I would really like, the box, originally I didn't want it because I was planning to use my ability night 1, and the cons of the items out weighed the benefits... But since the trigger that causes me to lose sanity from my night action didn't occur, I'm more willing to accept the bsneifts of being able to use my ability twice...
@Terry
Here's where I should say, I can laugh at you when I flip town if u shoot me, but I guessed I asked for it.
Also despite what u may think, there was no hidden agenda behind me trying to get the gun, I just wanted it.
Lastly if I had taken it, it wouldn't have even been stolen from you, which would have been counter productive to the scums plan. And *insert wine, why would I even bother announcing I was the one who tried to take ur gun if I was scum.
If no one wants the puzzle box we should give it to Grape and have him disappear it.
I'll make another post later with my feelings so far, but I would really like, the box, originally I didn't want it because I was planning to use my ability night 1, and the cons of the items out weighed the benefits... But since the trigger that causes me to lose sanity from my night action didn't occur, I'm more willing to accept the bsneifts of being able to use my ability twice...
The Puzzle Box does not permit the same skill to be used twice; it permits those professions with multiple skills to use two different skills at once. I consulted with the Auctioneer on this.
If no one wants the puzzle box we should give it to Grape and have him disappear it.
I'll make another post later with my feelings so far, but I would really like, the box, originally I didn't want it because I was planning to use my ability night 1, and the cons of the items out weighed the benefits... But since the trigger that causes me to lose sanity from my night action didn't occur, I'm more willing to accept the bsneifts of being able to use my ability twice...
@Terry
Here's where I should say, I can laugh at you when I flip town if u shoot me, but I guessed I asked for it.
Also despite what u may think, there was no hidden agenda behind me trying to get the gun, I just wanted it.
Lastly if I had taken it, it wouldn't have even been stolen from you, which would have been counter productive to the scums plan. And *insert wine, why would I even bother announcing I was the one who tried to take ur gun if I was scum.
End rant
Will post more later
Well if you are town, you cost me 1 gold, so that sucks and is bad town play.
Terry, you should shortly be informed of something. That something will explain at least two earlier statements I made. I would like your opinion on whether this something should be publicly revealed, as it will affect other decisions that we must make very soon - and specifically your personal decision.
I got it. Not exactly sure how that worked, but it's really more your decision on how you want to play it. I can say publicly that I'm pretty damn sure Kami is town, I was pretty sure before, but even more now. Not 100% confirmed but you'd have to do some pretty serious WIFOM to come up with a scenario where Kami is scum, knowing what I know. Since I'm damn near conf town, I think everyone should take my word on this too. It's a mechanical thing, not just a read thing.
If no one wants the puzzle box we should give it to Grape and have him disappear it.
I'll make another post later with my feelings so far, but I would really like, the box, originally I didn't want it because I was planning to use my ability night 1, and the cons of the items out weighed the benefits... But since the trigger that causes me to lose sanity from my night action didn't occur, I'm more willing to accept the bsneifts of being able to use my ability twice...
The Puzzle Box does not permit the same skill to be used twice; it permits those professions with multiple skills to use two different skills at once. I consulted with the Auctioneer on this.
ohh... nvm then, I have no use for it currently then
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I don't know why you're worried about dying LW, you are clearly town.
tell that to ******* terry... "clearly" obviously isnt as clear if I been threatened by a confirmed town...
Terry Well if you are town, you cost me 1 gold, so that sucks and is bad town play.
plz if someone was gunna snipe it, they would of, placing 1 gold on an item that good, and pretending everyone will play well is ignorance, town or scum, and the fact is, mafia didnt even need to go for it, because the plan was to steal it from you because you all announced it... so if I had taken it, I could already be shooting someone with it.
Rhand
so idk if u answer me before, but are you saying the flavor text from your ability stated information that roughly correlates with Shadow being in a cult? If thats true, then this does not town clear you at all, and a little bit of OoG info, I do believe you are an role cop, because alignment cops are meh. Which leads to the thought of maybe you are a mafia role cop? Its a thought, like I have no reason to scum read you again as of yet, but I dont have a def town read on you, unlike everyone else. Guess I need to wait for Shadow's flip.
RE
Did you explain what your ability did before? If not, then dont bother saying now, if you dont want to... now about to make you role claim...
Lastly, was your ability successful in what it was suppose to do? a simple yes or no will suffice for now
hmm, I guess thats it, I am still in school right now. Ill try to back read later and see if any posts pop out to me
Ok so, I think terry should actually shoot me. Yes it's technically -EV but I really really don't believe that I am going to be able to keep up with this game when there are 5 pages being made overnight. I'm still not caught up all the way and I barely even remember what I did read so realistically I don't think I am going to be able to keep up with this game / be useful at all. I'm only a neighborizer so it's not a bad shot mechanically, plus I'm in PoE and I doubt I'll be able to clear myself in this sitemeta when I have like 1 exhausted hour per day to spend on the game.
Also, unless this is like an mtgs thing, I really don't think mafia ever fake guilties someone on day 2, especially not when they aren't being scumread and they have already lost a quarter of their team and the slot they are killing isn't that townread. I'd be more inclined to believe there's something tampering with investigative results. So I kind of don't think it's worthwhile to tinfoil worlds where Rhand is mafia.
Whats not to understand, the way you came into the game suggesting the mass auction claim should not be used as a means to read you as scum because its the same as someone coming into the game asking for a mass claim. Its bound to happen and we cant just wine ourselves to believe only scum would suggest ***** like that or else we would just be mislynching all the time.
I also said that if people like to follow norms people like me and others might read them as scum if they try to break free from that.
This feels weird for scum!Shin to say to town!Vezok. two more thumbs up
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
So lets postulate.
Last is town
Terry is town.
RE is maybe town.
Tom is maybe town.
Tom: I disagree that your 3+ people on vezk are scum because, in a world where I am not scum, I don't think that the two who aren't dota are likely BOTH scum. That seems risky for scum.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Gemma
Yes, but not in the case of two scum teams, or a scum/cult team... also make more posts, like, I get it... its hard to keep up with some games, but atleast make one decent post every once in a while, instead of coming in and saying, "this game is too fast for me," and "shoot me cause it will help poe," like jesus people...
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Killjoy
So you think Shin is possibly town, but what about his slot in general? Do you have any mixed feelings about his replacement, RE, who we are currently playing with? lol, which is who we should be focusing on...
as much as I like her answers, I cant help but wonder what she could have possibly done during day phase...
I don't know why you're worried about dying LW, you are clearly town.
tell that to ******* terry... "clearly" obviously isnt as clear if I been threatened by a confirmed town...
Terry Well if you are town, you cost me 1 gold, so that sucks and is bad town play.
plz if someone was gunna snipe it, they would of, placing 1 gold on an item that good, and pretending everyone will play well is ignorance, town or scum, and the fact is, mafia didnt even need to go for it, because the plan was to steal it from you because you all announced it... so if I had taken it, I could already be shooting someone with it.
I never announced that I had it. I ended up dropping 2 gold on it and I only would have paid 1 if it weren't for you. I was fully capable of getting it and mafia had to target me with the NK to steal it. Face it, you cost me gold for no reason. That was straight up scum play. If you are town, that sucks.
Ok so, I think terry should actually shoot me. Yes it's technically -EV but I really really don't believe that I am going to be able to keep up with this game when there are 5 pages being made overnight. I'm still not caught up all the way and I barely even remember what I did read so realistically I don't think I am going to be able to keep up with this game / be useful at all. I'm only a neighborizer so it's not a bad shot mechanically, plus I'm in PoE and I doubt I'll be able to clear myself in this sitemeta when I have like 1 exhausted hour per day to spend on the game.
Also, unless this is like an mtgs thing, I really don't think mafia ever fake guilties someone on day 2, especially not when they aren't being scumread and they have already lost a quarter of their team and the slot they are killing isn't that townread. I'd be more inclined to believe there's something tampering with investigative results. So I kind of don't think it's worthwhile to tinfoil worlds where Rhand is mafia.
Wait, why do you think someone altered the results instead of Shadow just being scum?
So lets postulate.
Last is town
Terry is town.
RE is maybe town.
Tom is maybe town.
Tom: I disagree that your 3+ people on vezk are scum because, in a world where I am not scum, I don't think that the two who aren't dota are likely BOTH scum. That seems risky for scum.
I don't know why you're worried about dying LW, you are clearly town.
tell that to ******* terry... "clearly" obviously isnt as clear if I been threatened by a confirmed town...
Terry Well if you are town, you cost me 1 gold, so that sucks and is bad town play.
plz if someone was gunna snipe it, they would of, placing 1 gold on an item that good, and pretending everyone will play well is ignorance, town or scum, and the fact is, mafia didnt even need to go for it, because the plan was to steal it from you because you all announced it... so if I had taken it, I could already be shooting someone with it.
I never announced that I had it. I ended up dropping 2 gold on it and I only would have paid 1 if it weren't for you. I was fully capable of getting it and mafia had to target me with the NK to steal it. Face it, you cost me gold for no reason. That was straight up scum play. If you are town, that sucks.
cry me a river, the plan was for you to get it, so scum knew, and it was stolen... if dota didnt die, scum would still have it... and again, I NEVER AGREED TO LET YOU HAVE THE GUN. and also, your gold means nothing to me... this is how auctions work... jesus ******* christ, get over yourself...
if you want to keep scum reading me for this then so be it, but dont use word play like, "if you are town, that sucks," when we all know u are just trying to shade me for participating in auction like how its suppose to be
So lets postulate.
Last is town
Terry is town.
RE is maybe town.
Tom is maybe town.
Tom: I disagree that your 3+ people on vezk are scum because, in a world where I am not scum, I don't think that the two who aren't dota are likely BOTH scum. That seems risky for scum.
Why is last town?
Tonally, last is pretty clearly town IMO.
@last: RE has seemed generally town to me, but it's nothing overwhelming.
Wait, why do you think someone altered the results instead of Shadow just being scum?
Hah, because apparently that’s what happened.
Vote Gemma
"apparently?" why did Gemma suggesting that make you post that, instead of being the first thing you shouldve said when Rhand posted his action info...
also I thought Gemmas post was a typo at first, cause I couldnt understand where he was getting at...
Right, so. If Shadow flips scum, Gemma is definitely town. It amazes me when someone is dead scum and still manages to leak information about other players.
Right, so. If Shadow flips scum, Gemma is definitely town. It amazes me when someone is dead scum and still manages to leak information about other players.
I mean hes 99% evil in this case, but im just worried hes gunna flip a cult, based on the flavor of Rhand's info, which wouldnt exactly clear Rhand either...
Right, so. If Shadow flips scum, Gemma is definitely town. It amazes me when someone is dead scum and still manages to leak information about other players.
I mean hes 99% evil in this case, but im just worried hes gunna flip a cult, based on the flavor of Rhand's info, which wouldnt exactly clear Rhand either...
He's not going to flip cult, can we please not rehash that conversation.
I want zero part of this wagon on Silver. Just none of it. And that's with me agreeing his dichotomies do feel forced. But so do toms and no one is rushing to lynch tom (granted Wisp wouldn't be because if tom is scum, Wisp is scum too). He is kind of crashing and burning right now, but I still don't think scum!Silver bothers with the Vezok/Grape buddy read when he knows we're both town.
@DBS Information is power but we don't full claim immediately at the start of games. And I thought the full scum team automatically participated in the heist until I double checked the wording. They don't. I was sad, but not surprised.
1. Tom isn't forcing dichotomies like Silver is, and you do agree his reads feel forced. maybe it could be a difference in playstyles. not sure I recall a Vezok/Grape read from him though.
2. I get what you're saying here, but nobody fullclaimed until pressured so far.
3. hmmm.. I wasn't quite sure how the heist stuff goes, so I guess you paying attention to it is probably a good thing. (honestly, I try to avoid interpreting mechanics as it usually turns out a mess.)
I was right about Vezok. I was right about DOTA. I'm right about this too. Iso is scum, I don't give a ***** what he did last night(especially considering that he figured he'd be a likely target for Watch/Track/whatever) to try and make himself look better.
not a fan of believing your reads just cuz you're right on the first few, it can lead to a tunnel. I do agree you're probably on the right track, so your reads have not much need to change its course, though. just don't tunnel. then again, I'm not sure if it's a good principle to keep, since I did give the benefit of doubt in ZE before, and scum!Tom ended up getting away.
Would have to be almost exactly dota/shadow/silver/kj
3 seems more believable
I won't be surprised if the entire team jumped on Vezok, since this is majority lynch. from your experience, do majority lynches end up with half the scumteam on it, or just 1? I know that plurality lynches usually have 1-2 max.
Think with the heist ability not lynching dota day 1 would be pretty high priority.
Probably would have bussed him now that it's used up.
Some vibes from atog wanting to still get credit for it
this is a really good point to remember. having DoTA alive must've been important cuz of his ability. having him as a counterwagon was also probably not what the scumteam wanted, since it would make him a good inves target (being the counterwagon).
Really not sure if this is a conversation Dawning has with a partner or not, someone with more familiarity there will have to chime in, but it definitely says ~something~.
I'd say no. I'm not one for idle and/or redundant talk, if it wasn't obvious enough.
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not a fan of believing your reads just cuz you're right on the first few, it can lead to a tunnel. I do agree you're probably on the right track, so your reads have not much need to change its course, though. just don't tunnel. then again, I'm not sure if it's a good principle to keep, since I did give the benefit of doubt in ZE before, and scum!Tom ended up getting away.
Oh I'm sure I'll end up tunneling someone at some point.
You can drop the act Shadow. I did cop you and got a mafia result.
There was a huge flavor part about me ringing at your door and you not wanting to let me in, and I saw a cultist robe hanging in your hallway.
so that's what it was. is it about the flavor text for the start of D2?
”Fine I'll prove I'm not a cultist” Wuffles says. He uncorks the bottle and drinks it. After a few second he looks at those gathered around him. “I am not a cultist” he repeats. “Say something that we know is a lie!” someone yells out. “We are not in Arkham city.” Wuffles says. Almost immediately he doubles over in pain screaming.
The ordeal has left Wuffles without a vote today.
Wuffles is Town
from this, I guess Cultists are flavorful references to the scumteam? real cultists in this game is not likely given the site's regulations(?).
I might shoot Shadow, LW or KJ. KJ has been strangely silent.
oh, I actually prefer if you shoot in Silver/Gemma/Atog. Silver could've mechanically cleared himself with the Potion of Truth, but would rather appeal to a gunshot - which feels unhelpful to town (I'm still wondering if it's playstyle or something else). also, Killjoy/Last are players that are easier to sort the more they're in the game AKA exposed to pressure.
If no one wants the puzzle box we should give it to Grape and have him disappear it.
I think it's better to give it to a suspect, or guaranteed town to will it to a suspect (when they die). if no one wants it, I'd like to have it. keeping it in the game is better for us atm.
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I think Terry should use the weapon that has returned to him, and use it on shadow. On the off chance that Rhand is lying, this gives us a window to take vengeance upon Rhand; if he is telling the truth, it gives us confirmation and allows us to evaluate the last day's interactions with full certainty.
We should split the remaining objects among those who are confirmed without question to be innocent. I would not mind having some of the money, but I would not be particularly more useful than anyone else with it.
vote: 9 silver to Wuffles
vote: Twin Scepters to Wuffles
vote: Seven Cryptical Books of Hsan to Terry
I am uncertain on the best use for the Puzzle Box. It is, after all, somewhat dangerous, and only useful to those with a multitude of skills or objects. Wuffles, Terry, do either of you want it?
If he refuses to fess up, then yeah, I think shooting me and then lynching him is the best option.
@KJ: Which item did you get last night? Don't lie or I'll shoot you. I know the truth.
Eh maybe.
Because I was right about Vezok and DOTA presumably.
I was really looking forward to having a daykill honestly. Oh well.
Oh I don't know whom to target with it yet; I just liked the idea of having it. Daykills are so powerful and so fun. I need to re-assess the gamestate leading up to DOTA's vote on Vezok and figure out if just Shadow was enough reason for DOTA to hop on board there.
I still don't know why people think Iso is town, but many people seem to think he REALLY is.
I don't remember that happening any time recently in a game where Iso was town? Also, the way that he got the Vezok wagon going and then moved off of it(while not trying to stop it) is a really bad look.
I like this sentiment.
@Terry
Here's where I should say, I can laugh at you when I flip town if u shoot me, but I guessed I asked for it.
Also despite what u may think, there was no hidden agenda behind me trying to get the gun, I just wanted it.
Lastly if I had taken it, it wouldn't have even been stolen from you, which would have been counter productive to the scums plan. And *insert wine, why would I even bother announcing I was the one who tried to take ur gun if I was scum.
End rant
Will post more later
two thumbs up
Terry
Well if you are town, you cost me 1 gold, so that sucks and is bad town play.
plz if someone was gunna snipe it, they would of, placing 1 gold on an item that good, and pretending everyone will play well is ignorance, town or scum, and the fact is, mafia didnt even need to go for it, because the plan was to steal it from you because you all announced it... so if I had taken it, I could already be shooting someone with it.
Rhand
so idk if u answer me before, but are you saying the flavor text from your ability stated information that roughly correlates with Shadow being in a cult? If thats true, then this does not town clear you at all, and a little bit of OoG info, I do believe you are an role cop, because alignment cops are meh. Which leads to the thought of maybe you are a mafia role cop? Its a thought, like I have no reason to scum read you again as of yet, but I dont have a def town read on you, unlike everyone else. Guess I need to wait for Shadow's flip.
RE
Did you explain what your ability did before? If not, then dont bother saying now, if you dont want to... now about to make you role claim...
Lastly, was your ability successful in what it was suppose to do? a simple yes or no will suffice for now
hmm, I guess thats it, I am still in school right now. Ill try to back read later and see if any posts pop out to me
Ok so, I think terry should actually shoot me. Yes it's technically -EV but I really really don't believe that I am going to be able to keep up with this game when there are 5 pages being made overnight. I'm still not caught up all the way and I barely even remember what I did read so realistically I don't think I am going to be able to keep up with this game / be useful at all. I'm only a neighborizer so it's not a bad shot mechanically, plus I'm in PoE and I doubt I'll be able to clear myself in this sitemeta when I have like 1 exhausted hour per day to spend on the game.
Also, unless this is like an mtgs thing, I really don't think mafia ever fake guilties someone on day 2, especially not when they aren't being scumread and they have already lost a quarter of their team and the slot they are killing isn't that townread. I'd be more inclined to believe there's something tampering with investigative results. So I kind of don't think it's worthwhile to tinfoil worlds where Rhand is mafia.
This feels weird for scum!Shin to say to town!Vezok. two more thumbs up
Why do I have four thumbs?
Yes it was successful
Last is town
Terry is town.
RE is maybe town.
Tom is maybe town.
Tom: I disagree that your 3+ people on vezk are scum because, in a world where I am not scum, I don't think that the two who aren't dota are likely BOTH scum. That seems risky for scum.
Yes, but not in the case of two scum teams, or a scum/cult team... also make more posts, like, I get it... its hard to keep up with some games, but atleast make one decent post every once in a while, instead of coming in and saying, "this game is too fast for me," and "shoot me cause it will help poe," like jesus people...
RE
Thanks for the fast response
Killjoy
Why do you have so many thumbs?
So you think Shin is possibly town, but what about his slot in general? Do you have any mixed feelings about his replacement, RE, who we are currently playing with? lol, which is who we should be focusing on...
as much as I like her answers, I cant help but wonder what she could have possibly done during day phase...
if you want to keep scum reading me for this then so be it, but dont use word play like, "if you are town, that sucks," when we all know u are just trying to shade me for participating in auction like how its suppose to be
Vote Gemma
Tonally, last is pretty clearly town IMO.
@last: RE has seemed generally town to me, but it's nothing overwhelming.
also I thought Gemmas post was a typo at first, cause I couldnt understand where he was getting at...
He's not going to flip cult, can we please not rehash that conversation.
2. I get what you're saying here, but nobody fullclaimed until pressured so far.
3. hmmm.. I wasn't quite sure how the heist stuff goes, so I guess you paying attention to it is probably a good thing. (honestly, I try to avoid interpreting mechanics as it usually turns out a mess.)
bottom of priority means first action to go through? if so, I think a suspect should hold on to it.
not a fan of believing your reads just cuz you're right on the first few, it can lead to a tunnel. I do agree you're probably on the right track, so your reads have not much need to change its course, though. just don't tunnel. then again, I'm not sure if it's a good principle to keep, since I did give the benefit of doubt in ZE before, and scum!Tom ended up getting away.
I won't be surprised if the entire team jumped on Vezok, since this is majority lynch. from your experience, do majority lynches end up with half the scumteam on it, or just 1? I know that plurality lynches usually have 1-2 max.
this is a really good point to remember. having DoTA alive must've been important cuz of his ability. having him as a counterwagon was also probably not what the scumteam wanted, since it would make him a good inves target (being the counterwagon).
I'd say no. I'm not one for idle and/or redundant talk, if it wasn't obvious enough.
Be grateful, always."
Oh I'm sure I'll end up tunneling someone at some point.
so that's what it was. is it about the flavor text for the start of D2?
from this, I guess Cultists are flavorful references to the scumteam? real cultists in this game is not likely given the site's regulations(?).
oh, I actually prefer if you shoot in Silver/Gemma/Atog. Silver could've mechanically cleared himself with the Potion of Truth, but would rather appeal to a gunshot - which feels unhelpful to town (I'm still wondering if it's playstyle or something else). also, Killjoy/Last are players that are easier to sort the more they're in the game AKA exposed to pressure.
I think it's better to give it to a suspect, or guaranteed town to will it to a suspect (when they die). if no one wants it, I'd like to have it. keeping it in the game is better for us atm.
Be grateful, always."