@Emcee theres an 11% chance of shadow being a wolf? Please explain that number to the class
It's actually 12.5% chance. Emcee is the other scum.
Pack up everyone, we can go home now.
@Osi: why you leave us all hanging like that?
I was chatting OoG and then going to bed because it was early in the morning and I was le tired.
Now I'm rested and rejuvenated, ready for a new day!
I'm slightly townreading you for questions and attitude, though I don't like the "let that lie" thing, but I think I've seen that from either alignment Shadow, and it is early.
Tom is mostly wine, but I'm slightly scumreading his Anak pocket (wine but serious), slightly scumreading explanation to Phraze (wine but serious), slightly scumreading lack of content in posts (early but serious), and at least one of you two is always scum (RVS joke dichotomy).
Anak seems slightly town, and I don't believe that he's so easily pocketed by Tom.
Mike feels like he's easily wrong here. Not sure whether he's scum or town, though.
Vezok is something, not too worried here yet.
Phraze is on my *****list for raisins, but disregarding that, she's could go either way here.
Ruma is useless. Waiting for more since the standard strat for MAL players is apparently lurk as scum.
And that leaves, last but in no way least, Cantrip. He's only posted in RVS, which I don't like, but this is another low activity game for him so we'll see. I'll be keeping an eye on him since my main reference points are Avalon and Revolution, and the latter doesn't count.
So I think most of this is somewhere on a spectrum of reachyness, but I kinda think it's townie to try to get blood from a stone like this?
If he is scum though I would say it's not with shadow for the way this is directed at him + pockety feels on rvs joke dichotomy
And his buddy would probably be in mikey/rum/cantrip/[unmentioned] but that's reachy in response to reachy tbh.
I don't really have a read on osi from this but it's a baseline I guess
How is that town behavior? Read through the list of reads he has, literally every read is a slightly alignment that might not be, or is just a straight Will Keep an Eye Out.
Like in all of that Osie doesn't SAY anything, but he put a lot of words down to make it look like he did. I'm getting huge overly helpful townie vibes here, trying to make it look like he is deeply analyzing and breaking the game down.
I pretty strongly believe Osie is scum, I caught him as scum in Two Takes It for being overly helpful townie as well (though that was right at the end of RVS, where he answered someone's question for someone else, then a few posts later answered the same question and said many more words before anyone commented on his first answer)
I guess I don't have an issue with osi's reads amounting to nothing because it's too early for strong reads anyway
Basically it's definitely weird that he would even try to make that sort of post in the first 50 posts (and ought to know that I don't even say anything AI most day 1s) but what came out when he did was...
I don't want to say anything positive about it really but I could see town osi making it
So you acknowledge it's too easy to have reads like that, it's really weird that he would try, and don't have anything positive to say about it. But it's town?
Answer me this then, if he is town, what's the point of doing that?
So you acknowledge it's too easy to have reads like that, it's really weird that he would try, and don't have anything positive to say about it. But it's town?
Answer me this then, if he is town, what's the point of doing that?
no I'm not saying it's town.
I think it was a bad post regardless of his alignment
So you acknowledge it's too easy to have reads like that, it's really weird that he would try, and don't have anything positive to say about it. But it's town?
Answer me this then, if he is town, what's the point of doing that?
Gonna Garcia here a bit, but I don’t even think it has a point, but it’s freaking osie, so it probably comes from him regardless of alignment. Probably?
osi reads list looks a bit scummy because of the memes shoehorned in there and the overall need to be participating after replacing that I feel from it
the list itself isn't towny or scummy either way.
tom vezok and anaklusmos look human (I feel like I said this earlier) (the fact that I'm agreeing with myself on them strengthens my reads on them)
I sense genuine tryhardiness from anaklusmos and he's asking the right questions that feels sort of mentory toward tom
I'm reading same alliance for them and that happens to be town.
vezok has a bionicle name so probably is town because town is my friends
post to the thread if you are my friend and let's have a friendly discussion
I sense genuine tryhardiness from anaklusmos and he's asking the right questions that feels sort of mentory toward tom
I'm reading same alliance for them and that happens to be town.
Could that be a pocket attempt, though? Or scum buddying? Keep in mind that Tom is not a weak player by any stretch of the imagination.
So you acknowledge it's too easy to have reads like that, it's really weird that he would try, and don't have anything positive to say about it. But it's town?
Answer me this then, if he is town, what's the point of doing that?
Gonna Garcia here a bit, but I don’t even think it has a point, but it’s freaking osie, so it probably comes from him regardless of alignment. Probably?
Is this reasoning based on meta or based on something that requires me to bring out more David Tennant GIFs?
I sense genuine tryhardiness from anaklusmos and he's asking the right questions that feels sort of mentory toward tom
I'm reading same alliance for them and that happens to be town.
Could that be a pocket attempt, though? Or scum buddying? Keep in mind that Tom is not a weak player by any stretch of the imagination.
does not feel like either of those two things. Pocketing isn't usually done by asking questions and if they were both scum it'd feel purposeful of "you need to think my way." This feels more like anaklusmos asking tom to really break down a scenario and I'm running with this town/town read
I sense genuine tryhardiness from anaklusmos and he's asking the right questions that feels sort of mentory toward tom
I'm reading same alliance for them and that happens to be town.
Could that be a pocket attempt, though? Or scum buddying? Keep in mind that Tom is not a weak player by any stretch of the imagination.
does not feel like either of those two things. Pocketing isn't usually done by asking questions and if they were both scum it'd feel purposeful of "you need to think my way." This feels more like anaklusmos asking tom to really break down a scenario and I'm running with this town/town read
Why does Anak need to act mentory, though, if not for an agenda? Anak's also a solid player. And besides, I don't get why you're suggesting he's acting mentory if you think he's asking Tom to do work for him. If anything it seems like the opposite.
tom reads to me as slightly uncertain of himself around osie
anak is getting tom to actually think here, that's a towny thing to do. I don't know why you'd disagree.
I guess I don't have an issue with osi's reads amounting to nothing because it's too early for strong reads anyway
Basically it's definitely weird that he would even try to make that sort of post in the first 50 posts (and ought to know that I don't even say anything AI most day 1s) but what came out when he did was...
I don't want to say anything positive about it really but I could see town osi making it
this post in general is weird
in that context I guess I could see anak/tom being wolf/wolf but it seems a lot less likely than town/town
@Emcee theres an 11% chance of shadow being a wolf? Please explain that number to the class
It's actually 12.5% chance. Emcee is the other scum.
Pack up everyone, we can go home now.
@Osi: why you leave us all hanging like that?
I was chatting OoG and then going to bed because it was early in the morning and I was le tired.
Now I'm rested and rejuvenated, ready for a new day!
I'm slightly townreading you for questions and attitude, though I don't like the "let that lie" thing, but I think I've seen that from either alignment Shadow, and it is early.
Tom is mostly wine, but I'm slightly scumreading his Anak pocket (wine but serious), slightly scumreading explanation to Phraze (wine but serious), slightly scumreading lack of content in posts (early but serious), and at least one of you two is always scum (RVS joke dichotomy).
Anak seems slightly town, and I don't believe that he's so easily pocketed by Tom.
Mike feels like he's easily wrong here. Not sure whether he's scum or town, though.
Vezok is something, not too worried here yet.
Phraze is on my *****list for raisins, but disregarding that, she's could go either way here.
Ruma is useless. Waiting for more since the standard strat for MAL players is apparently lurk as scum.
And that leaves, last but in no way least, Cantrip. He's only posted in RVS, which I don't like, but this is another low activity game for him so we'll see. I'll be keeping an eye on him since my main reference points are Avalon and Revolution, and the latter doesn't count.
So I think most of this is somewhere on a spectrum of reachyness, but I kinda think it's townie to try to get blood from a stone like this?
If he is scum though I would say it's not with shadow for the way this is directed at him + pockety feels on rvs joke dichotomy
And his buddy would probably be in mikey/rum/cantrip/[unmentioned] but that's reachy in response to reachy tbh.
I don't really have a read on osi from this but it's a baseline I guess
@shadow: what do you think of this post?
I'm kinda town reading osie. Seems to be working on solving the game.
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Wild day 1 speculation with just my gut talking: Tom and shadow scumteam. There. Game solved.
It's actually 12.5% chance. Emcee is the other scum.
Pack up everyone, we can go home now.
@Osi: why you leave us all hanging like that?
I was chatting OoG and then going to bed because it was early in the morning and I was le tired.
Now I'm rested and rejuvenated, ready for a new day!
I'm slightly townreading you for questions and attitude, though I don't like the "let that lie" thing, but I think I've seen that from either alignment Shadow, and it is early.
Tom is mostly wine, but I'm slightly scumreading his Anak pocket (wine but serious), slightly scumreading explanation to Phraze (wine but serious), slightly scumreading lack of content in posts (early but serious), and at least one of you two is always scum (RVS joke dichotomy).
Anak seems slightly town, and I don't believe that he's so easily pocketed by Tom.
Mike feels like he's easily wrong here. Not sure whether he's scum or town, though.
Vezok is something, not too worried here yet.
Phraze is on my *****list for raisins, but disregarding that, she's could go either way here.
Ruma is useless. Waiting for more since the standard strat for MAL players is apparently lurk as scum.
And that leaves, last but in no way least, Cantrip. He's only posted in RVS, which I don't like, but this is another low activity game for him so we'll see. I'll be keeping an eye on him since my main reference points are Avalon and Revolution, and the latter doesn't count.
So I think most of this is somewhere on a spectrum of reachyness, but I kinda think it's townie to try to get blood from a stone like this?
If he is scum though I would say it's not with shadow for the way this is directed at him + pockety feels on rvs joke dichotomy
And his buddy would probably be in mikey/rum/cantrip/[unmentioned] but that's reachy in response to reachy tbh.
I don't really have a read on osi from this but it's a baseline I guess
@shadow: what do you think of this post?
I'm kinda town reading osie. Seems to be working on solving the game.
The more I read this post, the less I like it.
Vote: Vezok
Updated Reads:
Conf Town:
Osie - Myself
Slight Townie:
Mike - I like his analysis of Tom but I don't like his Vezok read, and I'm still not convinced on Anak. A bit waffly, but that's probably town?
Tom - He doesn't seem agenda-driven here, kinda poking at people. I like his uncertainty on me, though he knows that I like that so it could be an act. For now I'm slightly townreading him after the dust settles.
Neutral:
Cantrip - Inactive, need to see more.
Shadow - He's been okay, but I want to see more. If he doesn't wow me within a page or two without a damn good reason, I'm scumreading him.
Slight Scummy:
Anak - Feels a bit agenda-driven, but could be town. Not OMGUSing here, though.
Phraze - Inactive, pretty ehh posting.
Scummy:
Ruma - Nothing posts. Even if he is town I'm kinda upset with him.
Vezok - Sleazy, I don't like any of his posts.
@Mikey: I think you're somewhat townie. I understand your Anak read even if I don't necessarily agree with it. Explain to me why you think Vezok is townie in this game.
Also, what the heck does “Needs more butter” even mean?
I wanted to respond, but the server crashed. I think "more butter" is what the server needs to work.
Vote wernkdoggnate
Cause I don't understand your name and that frustrates me.
That "I wanted to respond, but" struck me as unnecessary explaining and maybe a little wistful he couldn't post before.
Reminded me of this alt game one time where everyone was Looney toons characters and a lot of rvs was, like, bugs votes Elmer fudd tweety voted Sylvester and this scum came in upset that he didn't have an easy rvs vote and it struck me as so viscerally scummy as an approach to rvs I tunneled them all day 1 and they NKed me and it's not exactly analogous but yeah that's what I was thinking.
I apologise for my absence. I am a little more comfortable now. I had ear surgery and have been taking prescription painkillers which are a little strong. Didn't want to participate in a state where I was more likely to ruin the game than contribute. (So, rawr Osie).
On the topic of reads, Osie is never going to read me properly as they have a bias against me (A toxic personality over on MAL hehe). The problem with such an early read list, is that it can be either scum or town-lean. Thus, NAI. There is the fact that osie did not vote when he made his reads, and seemed like he was justifying the RVS on Tom. Often scum try and portray RVS as an actual read. Keep this in mind.
Anak's vote on Osie feels fluid, a solid reaction to a post he doesn't like. A scum doesn't want to mess with order, as chaos can mess them over.
Tom's logic is also sound in his following two posts.
#53 of Anak is what I was thinking. Scum Osie is plausible in my mind.
Can't make an opinion on Emcee_Mikey yet.
I don't like Osie's defensiveness over the discussion between Anak and Tom, as that's conducive. Though, defensiveness is NAI. Woo.
Osie, I was mentioning I'm around as I was going to share my thoughts later. Irritating that you thought otherwise. I'm upset with you for being upset with me.
Vezok... Why? It feels like his posts are trollier than mine on MAL. :|
Just so I don't let bias get in the way, I'm going to leave Osie for now. I don't think that Vezok is scum though, as scum need to blend in. I'm going with either tom or anak is scum, so I'll be leaving my vote on Tom for now, until I deem another player scummier than osie.
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I am also called Riku. I tend to prefer being called riku.
Like, not even gonna mention the positive words about me + thinks osi scum which would make me town but then he keeps voting me anyway because false dichotomy with townanak
Again, I'm not Wisp. He's harder on you than he should be, though I agree with him that explictly intentionally acting scummy all the time is... not great. But it's good to see you actually post.
@osieorb because when i troll, im town. Can't really say he's scum because i feel he's trollier than me...
@tomsloger The only 'compliment' i gave you was that you're logic was sound. You made it seem like I voted on you when I said you did some good things. This is a scum tactic of misdirection.
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I am also called Riku. I tend to prefer being called riku.
Hey everyone, I dislike self-meta as an alignment tell even more than I dislike meta-only reads so as much as Phraze or someone else might push you to provide self-meta, I'm probably never going to townread you based on self-meta.
how the fudge is that self meta? You asked me why i wasnt voting for velkoz. that was my answer. am i trolling right now? If you say i am, theres why i compared u to wisp. I dont need a self meta read. Why did u feel the need to bring it up -_-
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I am also called Riku. I tend to prefer being called riku.
how the fudge is that self meta? You asked me why i wasnt voting for velkoz. that was my answer. am i trolling right now? If you say i am, theres why i compared u to wisp. I dont need a self meta read. Why did u feel the need to bring it up -_-
If anything you're not trolling. Which makes the self-meta comment a pseudo scum claim. Which leads to wine territory and certainly not a townread as of yet.
So I think most of this is somewhere on a spectrum of reachyness, but I kinda think it's townie to try to get blood from a stone like this?
If he is scum though I would say it's not with shadow for the way this is directed at him + pockety feels on rvs joke dichotomy
And his buddy would probably be in mikey/rum/cantrip/[unmentioned] but that's reachy in response to reachy tbh.
I don't really have a read on osi from this but it's a baseline I guess
Like in all of that Osie doesn't SAY anything, but he put a lot of words down to make it look like he did. I'm getting huge overly helpful townie vibes here, trying to make it look like he is deeply analyzing and breaking the game down.
I pretty strongly believe Osie is scum, I caught him as scum in Two Takes It for being overly helpful townie as well (though that was right at the end of RVS, where he answered someone's question for someone else, then a few posts later answered the same question and said many more words before anyone commented on his first answer)
Basically it's definitely weird that he would even try to make that sort of post in the first 50 posts (and ought to know that I don't even say anything AI most day 1s) but what came out when he did was...
I don't want to say anything positive about it really but I could see town osi making it
Answer me this then, if he is town, what's the point of doing that?
maybe spicy thoughts coming
I think it was a bad post regardless of his alignment
the list itself isn't towny or scummy either way.
tom vezok and anaklusmos look human (I feel like I said this earlier) (the fact that I'm agreeing with myself on them strengthens my reads on them)
I sense genuine tryhardiness from anaklusmos and he's asking the right questions that feels sort of mentory toward tom
I'm reading same alliance for them and that happens to be town.
vezok has a bionicle name so probably is town because town is my friends
post to the thread if you are my friend and let's have a friendly discussion
just literally don't post any more so we can be rid of you
Nah, though I know I'm an easy vote.
Could that be a pocket attempt, though? Or scum buddying? Keep in mind that Tom is not a weak player by any stretch of the imagination.
Is this reasoning based on meta or based on something that requires me to bring out more David Tennant GIFs?
does not feel like either of those two things. Pocketing isn't usually done by asking questions and if they were both scum it'd feel purposeful of "you need to think my way." This feels more like anaklusmos asking tom to really break down a scenario and I'm running with this town/town read
Why does Anak need to act mentory, though, if not for an agenda? Anak's also a solid player. And besides, I don't get why you're suggesting he's acting mentory if you think he's asking Tom to do work for him. If anything it seems like the opposite.
Will we not show it?
Context for reads. I think he's underestimating one or both of you.
You got any soft reads on people or are you just around?
anak is getting tom to actually think here, that's a towny thing to do. I don't know why you'd disagree.
in that context I guess I could see anak/tom being wolf/wolf but it seems a lot less likely than town/town
What?
it's like you want to give them a town read but you don't but you don't want to give them a scumread
@shadow: what do you think of this post?
I'm kinda town reading osie. Seems to be working on solving the game.
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Maybe it's just you. I found that post to be perfectly normal. Though not necessarily alignment indicative.
Decidedly not AI though
I hate you sometimes.
people get your hands dirty
tom explain to me why you think your post (the one I quoted) isn't alignment indicative
The more I read this post, the less I like it.
Vote: Vezok
Updated Reads:
Osie - Myself
Slight Townie:
Mike - I like his analysis of Tom but I don't like his Vezok read, and I'm still not convinced on Anak. A bit waffly, but that's probably town?
Tom - He doesn't seem agenda-driven here, kinda poking at people. I like his uncertainty on me, though he knows that I like that so it could be an act. For now I'm slightly townreading him after the dust settles.
Neutral:
Cantrip - Inactive, need to see more.
Shadow - He's been okay, but I want to see more. If he doesn't wow me within a page or two without a damn good reason, I'm scumreading him.
Slight Scummy:
Anak - Feels a bit agenda-driven, but could be town. Not OMGUSing here, though.
Phraze - Inactive, pretty ehh posting.
Scummy:
Ruma - Nothing posts. Even if he is town I'm kinda upset with him.
Vezok - Sleazy, I don't like any of his posts.
Maybe I'll let you know when I make the first one
Hint: It's not this one.
That "I wanted to respond, but" struck me as unnecessary explaining and maybe a little wistful he couldn't post before.
Reminded me of this alt game one time where everyone was Looney toons characters and a lot of rvs was, like, bugs votes Elmer fudd tweety voted Sylvester and this scum came in upset that he didn't have an easy rvs vote and it struck me as so viscerally scummy as an approach to rvs I tunneled them all day 1 and they NKed me and it's not exactly analogous but yeah that's what I was thinking.
Anaklusmos: (L-5)
Cantripmancer: (L-5)
dawningbluesky: (L-5)
Emcee_Mikey: Cantripmancer, dawningbluesky (L-3)
osieorb18: vezokpiraka, Anaklusmos (L-3)
Rumanshi: (L-5)
shadowlancerx: Emcee_Mikey (L-4)
tomsloger: shadowlancer, Rumanshi (L-3)
vezokpiraka: tomsloger, osieorb18 (L-3)
Not Voting:
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is 30 March 2018.
Oh well.
@Phraze, @Cantrip, @Mikey, @Shadow: Come vote Vezok!
On the topic of reads, Osie is never going to read me properly as they have a bias against me (A toxic personality over on MAL hehe). The problem with such an early read list, is that it can be either scum or town-lean. Thus, NAI. There is the fact that osie did not vote when he made his reads, and seemed like he was justifying the RVS on Tom. Often scum try and portray RVS as an actual read. Keep this in mind.
Anak's vote on Osie feels fluid, a solid reaction to a post he doesn't like. A scum doesn't want to mess with order, as chaos can mess them over.
Tom's logic is also sound in his following two posts.
#53 of Anak is what I was thinking. Scum Osie is plausible in my mind.
Can't make an opinion on Emcee_Mikey yet.
I don't like Osie's defensiveness over the discussion between Anak and Tom, as that's conducive. Though, defensiveness is NAI. Woo.
Osie, I was mentioning I'm around as I was going to share my thoughts later. Irritating that you thought otherwise. I'm upset with you for being upset with me.
Vezok... Why? It feels like his posts are trollier than mine on MAL. :|
Just so I don't let bias get in the way, I'm going to leave Osie for now. I don't think that Vezok is scum though, as scum need to blend in. I'm going with either tom or anak is scum, so I'll be leaving my vote on Tom for now, until I deem another player scummier than osie.
Like, not even gonna mention the positive words about me + thinks osi scum which would make me town but then he keeps voting me anyway because false dichotomy with townanak
Oh, I guess I did mention that...
Maybe. To be fair, I'm not Wisp.
Why not? He's been relatively active.
https://soundcloud.com/osieorb18/defensive/s-ZOhSP
It looked like setup for lurking...
Again, I'm not Wisp. He's harder on you than he should be, though I agree with him that explictly intentionally acting scummy all the time is... not great. But it's good to see you actually post.
Pfft. HAHAHAHAHA
1. Ehhhh, you two seem similar a lot of the time. Hard to keep track
2. Because I struggled to read him in the posts he made. That's a simple one.
3. What. My ear is shot, not going to listen to stuff.
4. If it was a setup for lurking, I would have been a little less 'I don't want to share' and found a different excuse.
5. To be fair, I've found more scum acting as dickish as possible, than I have acting like town...
6. I already mentioned it was bias, so don't laugh.
1. I hate you.
2. Okay... Nothing was alignment indicative?
3. It's a snippet from an Avenue Q song:
"Well, you don't need to get all defensive abou--"
"I'M NOT GETTING DEFENSIVE"
4. Chenin Blanc is made in Vouvray, Loire.
5.
Oh, and given this:
Why aren't you voting Vezok?
@tomsloger The only 'compliment' i gave you was that you're logic was sound. You made it seem like I voted on you when I said you did some good things. This is a scum tactic of misdirection.
If anything you're not trolling. Which makes the self-meta comment a pseudo scum claim. Which leads to wine territory and certainly not a townread as of yet.