I'd guess the rumanshi kill is intentional, ie "I wasn't here so I'm making it easier for you guys"
either that or cantrip wasn't there and the kill was decided randomly
I guess if you really wanna wait for cantrip that's fine but we both have to believe each other is human because we could've won much more easily without being fancy
I think Mikey’s decision to open up day 3 with a Vote was a mistake, and could have lost him the game on the spot just as often as he got it right, and completely disregarded anyone else’s thoughts.
I think Mikey’s decision to open up day 3 with a Vote was a mistake, and could have lost him the game on the spot just as often as he got it right, and completely disregarded anyone else’s thoughts.
I agree. That was a bad play, but it turned out well in the end.
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I think Mikey’s decision to open up day 3 with a Vote was a mistake, and could have lost him the game on the spot just as often as he got it right, and completely disregarded anyone else’s thoughts.
/barn
Also mad props to Tom for seeing right through my scum facade, although I really felt like I was playing my standard town game, so I'd be very interested to hear if he has any specifics as to why I came off as Carson Daly this game.
Thanks for a fun game, DoTA. Sorry that I flubbed it with my absence.
I think Mikey’s decision to open up day 3 with a Vote was a mistake, and could have lost him the game on the spot just as often as he got it right, and completely disregarded anyone else’s thoughts.
doing nothing would have lost us the game
we had almost no chance of winning there and I voted and waited for an insta
didn't happen so you were a wolf
I saw that someone asked in the spec chat why I voted for shadow.
Well, Cantrip, Ruma and Mikey were clear for me from different behavioural tells. Mikey being at the top of the town pile. That meant that I was clearly wrong on one of them, but you just got put out. I reread mikey three times and every time I did I just found more confirmation that he is town. You voted each other and I made the decision to kill you.
I would've spent a ton of time in LyLo if Rumanashi wasn't killed.
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I think Mikey’s decision to open up day 3 with a Vote was a mistake, and could have lost him the game on the spot just as often as he got it right, and completely disregarded anyone else’s thoughts.
doing nothing would have lost us the game
we had almost no chance of winning there and I voted and waited for an insta
didn't happen so you were a wolf
reading the game and actually analyzing behavior could have won you the game. Doing what you did actually did lose you the game, save for Ruma intentionally trying to throw. So no, you made a mistake and got lucky enough not to get punished for it.
I saw that someone asked in the spec chat why I voted for shadow.
Well, Cantrip, Ruma and Mikey were clear for me from different behavioural tells. Mikey being at the top of the town pile. That meant that I was clearly wrong on one of them, but you just got put out. I reread mikey three times and every time I did I just found more confirmation that he is town. You voted each other and I made the decision to kill you.
I would've spent a ton of time in LyLo if Rumanashi wasn't killed.
Huh, that’s not really how you read it thread. To me you seemed to think we were both scummy and couldn’t really point to anything more than feeling for why you thought I was. Good work getting it right.
(Also, I kinda don’t think Mikey’s play was even that townie )
I saw that someone asked in the spec chat why I voted for shadow.
Well, Cantrip, Ruma and Mikey were clear for me from different behavioural tells. Mikey being at the top of the town pile. That meant that I was clearly wrong on one of them, but you just got put out. I reread mikey three times and every time I did I just found more confirmation that he is town. You voted each other and I made the decision to kill you.
I would've spent a ton of time in LyLo if Rumanashi wasn't killed.
Huh, that’s not really how you read it thread. To me you seemed to think we were both scummy and couldn’t really point to anything more than feeling for why you thought I was. Good work getting it right.
(Also, I kinda don’t think Mikey’s play was even that townie )
By day 3 I was doubting myself really hard. By then I was wrong on both osie and anak. I took a breather and calmed my thoughts and spent a whole day thinking which of you two made the most sense as scum and decided that mikey was thoroughly town. I actually arrived at the conclusion that Cantrip must be scum too if you are scum, but Rumanashi muddied the waters at the end of the day.
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there's always scum between me and shadow, trying to diffuse the pressure between the two of us and divert our attention toward the group of people that is unlikely to be wolves isn't conducive
all your statistics breakdown and meaningless words and numbers is just unhelpful
there's always scum between me and shadow, trying to diffuse the pressure between the two of us and divert our attention toward the group of people that is unlikely to be wolves isn't conducive
all your statistics breakdown and meaningless words and numbers is just unhelpful
it made you look like shadow's partner
For me that actually made him look town. His statistics came from a really townie mindset even though the conclusion was wrong. His vote on you is what made me really doubt my read on him.
And yeah, this game would have been totally lost if Cantrip wasn't afk.
Also Mikey, please never insta vote in LyLo again. I understand why you did it here, but I prefer losing the game when a consensus is reached instead of going all in on a play.
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in normal circumstances I agree, you should never begin lylo with a vote on someone
I'm not entirely sure why it felt like it was okay to do it here but I think if we had screwed around and done nothing shadow wouldn't have been killed
Excactly how are you making these decisions? All I can see is a bunch of unthought out points.
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Not switching my vote to shadow doesn't make me scum, Emcee. It means there is a disagreement in reads. The arguments made against shadow are pretty shallow, as are the arguments against you.
Emcee, given that I'm not scum, I can only assume that you and Vezok are partners.
I didn't out myself, because I'm not scum. \
I voted on you because as town, I'd rather a RNG vote, then hammer someone I'm not sure is scum -_-
If you are town, you are foolishly believing your own narrative rather than attempting to solve.
If you're scum, then what do I care about the slander that you're spreading based on evidence that a school grader could tell is useless.
Screw it, I hope it is shadow town. I don't want to play this anymore. I wish cantrip replaced out earlier -_-
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You never played against your win condition? Then pray tell what was all of this zero'ing in on the scum team being Vezok/Mikey before voting Shadow seemingly because you were frustrated and didn't want to play anymore?
@Emcee_Mikey I thought you we're a really interesting player and would love to see you play here again. The way you try to solve the game is awesome, and was fun to read.
That said please try to keep it civil in future games if you stick around. I know Lylo is a stressful time but personal attacks are not acceptable here.
though... it wasn't a good idea for Emcee to start LyLo with a vote. and it also didn't help things that Rumanshi voted Emcee without reaching a consensus with everyone else. twice, scum could've won. but I guess, Emcee/Rumanshi are what I would consider 'lucky and crazy' players - players of that type usually tend to pull off the unpredictable with luck on their side. so, I'd say it was well-played on both sides.
the win would feel more deserving if it wasn't so luck-based though. I lost for the first time as scum due to luck too, and to Rumanshi, so I think this is proof that he's kind of a 'lucky' player lol. not easy to take the loss like this, but it still is a loss. I'll definitely watch out for Rumanshi in the future, especially for how lucky he gets, not whether he is a good player. lol
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also lol if vezok somehow didn't win when he had the chance and is now screwing with me
I don't understand this.
There's about a 1% that mikey is scum that bussed.
I want to hear from Cantrip before I end the game.
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either that or cantrip wasn't there and the kill was decided randomly
I guess if you really wanna wait for cantrip that's fine but we both have to believe each other is human because we could've won much more easily without being fancy
Cantripmancer: (L-2)
Emcee_Mikey: (L-2)
vezokpiraka: (L-2)
Not Voting:
Cantripmancer, Emcee_Mikey, vezokpiraka
With 3 alive, it's 2 to lynch.
Deadline is 25 April 2018.
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Votecount:
Cantripmancer: Emcee_Mikey, vezokpiraka (L-0)
Emcee_Mikey: (L-2)
vezokpiraka: (L-2)
Not Voting:
Cantripmancer
I want to apologise to osie. I was convinced he was scum and it clouded my judgement.
I want to state yet again, that mikey is an amazing player and I'd be honoured to play again with him.
@Dota : Scum chat and spec chat? Also night actions?
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Beginning is scum chat(links to discord from there)
I agree. That was a bad play, but it turned out well in the end.
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Also mad props to Tom for seeing right through my scum facade, although I really felt like I was playing my standard town game, so I'd be very interested to hear if he has any specifics as to why I came off as Carson Daly this game.
Thanks for a fun game, DoTA. Sorry that I flubbed it with my absence.
we had almost no chance of winning there and I voted and waited for an insta
didn't happen so you were a wolf
I dunno if I can keep playing these uber-long day phases lol, I might die of boredom
Well, Cantrip, Ruma and Mikey were clear for me from different behavioural tells. Mikey being at the top of the town pile. That meant that I was clearly wrong on one of them, but you just got put out. I reread mikey three times and every time I did I just found more confirmation that he is town. You voted each other and I made the decision to kill you.
I would've spent a ton of time in LyLo if Rumanashi wasn't killed.
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(Also, I kinda don’t think Mikey’s play was even that townie )
By day 3 I was doubting myself really hard. By then I was wrong on both osie and anak. I took a breather and calmed my thoughts and spent a whole day thinking which of you two made the most sense as scum and decided that mikey was thoroughly town. I actually arrived at the conclusion that Cantrip must be scum too if you are scum, but Rumanashi muddied the waters at the end of the day.
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there's no point doing math in lylo
there's always scum between me and shadow, trying to diffuse the pressure between the two of us and divert our attention toward the group of people that is unlikely to be wolves isn't conducive
all your statistics breakdown and meaningless words and numbers is just unhelpful
it made you look like shadow's partner
For me that actually made him look town. His statistics came from a really townie mindset even though the conclusion was wrong. His vote on you is what made me really doubt my read on him.
And yeah, this game would have been totally lost if Cantrip wasn't afk.
Also Mikey, please never insta vote in LyLo again. I understand why you did it here, but I prefer losing the game when a consensus is reached instead of going all in on a play.
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I'm not entirely sure why it felt like it was okay to do it here but I think if we had screwed around and done nothing shadow wouldn't have been killed
You never played against your win condition? Then pray tell what was all of this zero'ing in on the scum team being Vezok/Mikey before voting Shadow seemingly because you were frustrated and didn't want to play anymore?
That said please try to keep it civil in future games if you stick around. I know Lylo is a stressful time but personal attacks are not acceptable here.
that said earlier in the game he indicated doing so was his town meta
though... it wasn't a good idea for Emcee to start LyLo with a vote. and it also didn't help things that Rumanshi voted Emcee without reaching a consensus with everyone else. twice, scum could've won. but I guess, Emcee/Rumanshi are what I would consider 'lucky and crazy' players - players of that type usually tend to pull off the unpredictable with luck on their side. so, I'd say it was well-played on both sides.
the win would feel more deserving if it wasn't so luck-based though. I lost for the first time as scum due to luck too, and to Rumanshi, so I think this is proof that he's kind of a 'lucky' player lol. not easy to take the loss like this, but it still is a loss. I'll definitely watch out for Rumanshi in the future, especially for how lucky he gets, not whether he is a good player. lol
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