But in that example, we lynch scum, why are you making excuses to not lynch AE?
Tell me what about him screams town to you?
I'm starting to think you are intentionally acting like this.
I've already laid out my arguments. That's the whole problem. Nothing screams town or scum about AE. If we lynch him we get almost 0 info. If we lynch someone active we can analyse their posts and make better informed decisions tomorrow.
Now that the deadline is coming I'm ok with lynching almost anyone. I hate no lynches more than anything.
You are making an argument bssed off the fact AE comes across neither town or scum, yet surmise that he is gonna flip town and we will get nothing.
I never said he is going to flip town. You are misrepresenting my posts. Please read them again.
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Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
I love the idea of a Nancy Lynch or a DV Lynch or a DBS Lynch, all of them are front runners so I'm happy as a clam. People say we won't get much info from Lynch Nancy, but the whole reason I want that Lynch is because of interactions with the other two.
Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
I love the idea of a Nancy Lynch or a DV Lynch or a DBS Lynch, all of them are front runners so I'm happy as a clam. People say we won't get much info from Lynch Nancy, but the whole reason I want that Lynch is because of interactions with the other two.
Well that on top of the other scummy stuff I've been on her about all day.
Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
I'm coming back in just to say.
You don't have the votes to lynch me today.
To put me on the table as a possible lynch is just scummy.
To try and force my lynch is scummy.
The fact that you bring this up as a possibility is scummy.
I have three people voting me.
All three of which are basically just keeping the seats warm.
Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
I love the idea of a Nancy Lynch or a DV Lynch or a DBS Lynch, all of them are front runners so I'm happy as a clam. People say we won't get much info from Lynch Nancy, but the whole reason I want that Lynch is because of interactions with the other two.
@Rodemy
if you don't understand context... me arguing about you for 10 pages was questioning Grape's defense, not you. (@Grape this is why you shouldn't interrupt questioning)
I find you opportunistic and mudflingy, also that you still aren't sourcing reads from you own interactions, but from others. I also don't like that it is you pushing my proposed dichotomy by voting me.
as such, I would rather focus on someone else Vote:Nancy Drew
This post by DBS screams scum since DBS was voting me. Then talks to Rodemy like her vote is still there. Then jumps to the AFK.
I'd 100% CFD onto Terry.
I'm game.
Rodemy is ******* town that's really apparent.
Shadow's shot down the list for going after Nancy again. Nancy and Rhand are basically the same entity yet Shadow ignores Rhand and goes for Nancy. And follows DBS, while also saying would lynch DBS.
But with 48 hours to go there is probabally a clear dichotomy between Nancy and DBS.
Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
I love the idea of a Nancy Lynch or a DV Lynch or a DBS Lynch, all of them are front runners so I'm happy as a clam. People say we won't get much info from Lynch Nancy, but the whole reason I want that Lynch is because of interactions with the other two.
Well that on top of the other scummy stuff I've been on her about all day.
Archmage Eternal: Town Lean - Archmage has always been quick to jump on good points, answer in a way that feels natural, presented himself in a way that feels very townie focused.
But in that example, we lynch scum, why are you making excuses to not lynch AE?
Tell me what about him screams town to you?
I'm starting to think you are intentionally acting like this.
I've already laid out my arguments. That's the whole problem. Nothing screams town or scum about AE. If we lynch him we get almost 0 info. If we lynch someone active we can analyse their posts and make better informed decisions tomorrow.
Now that the deadline is coming I'm ok with lynching almost anyone. I hate no lynches more than anything.
You are making an argument bssed off the fact AE comes across neither town or scum, yet surmise that he is gonna flip town and we will get nothing.
He does not surmise I'm fliping town. He's saying "town" as in the mafia NK. I.E. I get lynched we go into night and scum kill a townie.
@Rodemy
if you don't understand context... me arguing about you for 10 pages was questioning Grape's defense, not you. (@Grape this is why you shouldn't interrupt questioning)
I find you opportunistic and mudflingy, also that you still aren't sourcing reads from you own interactions, but from others. I also don't like that it is you pushing my proposed dichotomy by voting me.
as such, I would rather focus on someone else Vote:Nancy Drew
This post by DBS screams scum since DBS was voting me. Then talks to Rodemy like her vote is still there. Then jumps to the AFK.
I'd 100% CFD onto Terry.
I'm game.
Rodemy is ******* town that's really apparent.
Shadow's shot down the list for going after Nancy again. Nancy and Rhand are basically the same entity yet Shadow ignores Rhand and goes for Nancy. And follows DBS, while also saying would lynch DBS.
But with 48 hours to go there is probabally a clear dichotomy between Nancy and DBS.
oh? iirc I RB'd someone, said I wanted to lynch a specific person, and voted another suspect - in Zero Escape. what about that post screamed scum!DBS?
if there's any CFD, I say it's Azrael (as stated before).
nothing says that Rodemy is town, in fact, there is no derp-clear for him while there seem to be some degree of it for others.
if you recall, Shadow and Rhand have interacted in regards to clearing me. Nancy and Shadow haven't interacted on such a level. it's understandable for Shadow to go after Nancy.
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
To put me on the table as a possible lynch is just scummy.
To try and force my lynch is scummy.
The fact that you bring this up as a possibility is scummy.
I have three people voting me.
All three of which are basically just keeping the seats warm.
Are you attempting to play poorly? Before dawning moved her vote you were tied for top wagon; now you are tied for second wagon, and my attempt to push any chance of lynching you today off the table is scummy because I’m somehow bringing it up and putting you on the table? No. Just no.
Shadow's shot down the list for going after Nancy again. Nancy and Rhand are basically the same entity yet Shadow ignores Rhand and goes for Nancy. And follows DBS, while also saying would lynch DBS.
But with 48 hours to go there is probabally a clear dichotomy between Nancy and DBS.
Lets get a couple of things clear here: I didn’t “follow” anyone onto Nancy, I’ve said I think she’s scum for days; Rhand and Nancy are not “the same”, both being lower activity does not in any way make them the same, Rhand has actually put in solvy work and isn’t trying to stay under the radar; and Dawning and Nancy are not a “clear dichotomy”, there is no basis for this, so either show me the evidence that leads you to this or explain why you thought this, they very well may be t/s but they aren’t a dichotomy.
But with 48 hours to go there is probabally a clear dichotomy between Nancy and DBS.
Sorry, didn't realize I had to spell this part out. With 48 hours to go and DBS voting Nancy a low vote wagon that has no chance of succeeding, its a pretty clear dichotomy.
Also, Why exactly are you scum reading me?
What is the case on me?
What case exists at all?
Cause that's all I got. Rhands vote doesn't even count. Its literally a rage vote.
You got two other players voting me for god knows what reason. You only ever rage voted me. Now you seem to think I'm scummy? You legit said "If Nobue was going to continue to live I had a problem". That seemed to be your only reason. If you want to lynch me over three players being utterly worthless on day one feel free to do so. But then, who is really making the bad plays?
You don't have the legit votes to lynch me and you know it. So, how is this bad play?
- you're fine with a CFD on someone who isn't the neutral (aka better option for undecided town).
- you don't acknowledge anything off about Nancy as a new player not clashing with you, yet say new players are usually suspicious of you.
- at first you want to lynch the inactives, but change later because SOMEONE ELSE voted me. yet you said I was likely town when you self-replaced.
- you said to me that one narrative means scum. correction, scum have few narratives since they have a better view of the board. how is the lack of narratives scummy?
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
of course, with the way Rodemy voted and was pushing the DV vs Dawning trains, I don't like it. so, the switch to Nancy (who I still think is a better option) is ideal, or Azrael if we're going to go crazy.
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
This reads to me as though you're hedging your bets and going its not the right lynch but I'd do it.
My point is this.
I have Tom, Azreal, Shadow, Myself, and to a lesser extent Grape and maybe Rodemy that are not voting me today.
Two of these are Highly town read by the wagon that is on me.
For me to be lynched today I can only be lynched by a massive scum push.
Hence me getting lynched today is near impossible.
- you're fine with a CFD on someone who isn't the neutral (aka better option for undecided town).
- you don't acknowledge anything off about Nancy as a new player not clashing with you, yet say new players are usually suspicious of you.
- at first you want to lynch the inactives, but change later because SOMEONE ELSE voted me. yet you said I was likely town when you self-replaced.
- you said to me that one narrative means scum. correction, scum have few narratives since they have a better view of the board. how is the lack of narratives scummy?
No lynching Azreal isn't an option.
I don't give a **** about Nancy at this point. They are going to be replaced soon I can deal with them tomorrow. Or they are going to participate and then I can make a decision tomorrow. I'm not lynching the ******* AFK today.
I was half joking with the inactive it was more to get reads. Also lynching inactives day one is bad.
I don't even know what you're getting at for the last two. My opinion changed, I explained why it changed.
That might be your case and that's more recent and frankly at least you make sense or DBS sense. But the others. IDK why at this point they are voting me.
- you're fine with a CFD on someone who isn't the neutral (aka better option for undecided town).
- you don't acknowledge anything off about Nancy as a new player not clashing with you, yet say new players are usually suspicious of you.
- at first you want to lynch the inactives, but change later because SOMEONE ELSE voted me. yet you said I was likely town when you self-replaced.
- you said to me that one narrative means scum. correction, scum have few narratives since they have a better view of the board. how is the lack of narratives scummy?
No lynching Azreal isn't an option.
I don't give a **** about Nancy at this point. They are going to be replaced soon I can deal with them tomorrow. Or they are going to participate and then I can make a decision tomorrow. I'm not lynching the ******* AFK today.
I was half joking with the inactive it was more to get reads. Also lynching inactives day one is bad.
I don't even know what you're getting at for the last two. My opinion changed, I explained why it changed.
That might be your case and that's more recent and frankly at least you make sense or DBS sense. But the others. IDK why at this point they are voting me.
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
Also for the record,
Sometimes I'm aggressive(Ok a lot of the time).
But you know what maybe we wouldn't be in a situation at all if some other players had attempted to talk to the two players on my wagon instead of allowing them to durdle around.
“I would lynch Dawning, but I wouldn’t lynch DV” can’t get much clearer when you’re both possible wagons today based on being vote leaders.
Also stop pushing against the Nancy wagon, lurking or not she’s been scummy enough to make a good lynch, if you want her not to be, make a case for her being townie, not a case that she’s inactive and not worth lynching.
Also for the record,
Sometimes I'm aggressive(Ok a lot of the time).
But you know what maybe we wouldn't be in a situation at all if some other players had attempted to talk to the two players on my wagon instead of allowing them to durdle around.
my wagon also comprise of players who just jump on. you're not one to talk.
and for the record, I'm left-handed. so what if I don't think like you, is that bad? it isn't.
tl;dr players have their reasons for acting like they do, it doesn't make them useless.
it should be your job to handle your conduct, and your wagon. don't put it on us. got it?
you either improve your conduct/aggression, or adapt. I can. can't you?
just feels like you're blaming issues on us =.=
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
Also for the record,
Sometimes I'm aggressive(Ok a lot of the time).
But you know what maybe we wouldn't be in a situation at all if some other players had attempted to talk to the two players on my wagon instead of allowing them to durdle around.
my wagon also comprise of players who just jump on. you're not one to talk.
and for the record, I'm left-handed. so what if I don't think like you, is that bad? it isn't.
tl;dr players have their reasons for acting like they do, it doesn't make them useless.
it should be your job to handle your conduct, and your wagon. don't put it on us. got it?
you either improve your conduct/aggression, or adapt. I can. can't you?
just feels like you're blaming issues on us =.=
Yes.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm blaming others.
@Shadow that's quite literally not what you said but ok.
You said "I don't think DV is the right lynch" not "I won't lynch DV"
I just don't see a scum case on Nancy that I buy.
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Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
I love the idea of a Nancy Lynch or a DV Lynch or a DBS Lynch, all of them are front runners so I'm happy as a clam. People say we won't get much info from Lynch Nancy, but the whole reason I want that Lynch is because of interactions with the other two.
Why are you suspecting me again?
Because nobue was a scummy, no good gimmick that stuck up for Nancy for no apparent reason.
Also for the record,
Sometimes I'm aggressive(Ok a lot of the time).
But you know what maybe we wouldn't be in a situation at all if some other players had attempted to talk to the two players on my wagon instead of allowing them to durdle around.
my wagon also comprise of players who just jump on. you're not one to talk.
and for the record, I'm left-handed. so what if I don't think like you, is that bad? it isn't.
tl;dr players have their reasons for acting like they do, it doesn't make them useless.
it should be your job to handle your conduct, and your wagon. don't put it on us. got it?
you either improve your conduct/aggression, or adapt. I can. can't you?
just feels like you're blaming issues on us =.=
Yes.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm blaming others.
and that is bad form.
I don't see why Nancy or AE or even Rodemy shouldn't be lynched for inactivity. pushing scum will generate activity from their scumbuds.
derailing us from finding new leads, and going with this flow that scum have arranged, is not a good thing.
forcing a new flow that agrees with the town is to lynch an inactive.
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"I still remember the days I prayed for the things I have now.
Also for the record,
Sometimes I'm aggressive(Ok a lot of the time).
But you know what maybe we wouldn't be in a situation at all if some other players had attempted to talk to the two players on my wagon instead of allowing them to durdle around.
my wagon also comprise of players who just jump on. you're not one to talk.
and for the record, I'm left-handed. so what if I don't think like you, is that bad? it isn't.
tl;dr players have their reasons for acting like they do, it doesn't make them useless.
it should be your job to handle your conduct, and your wagon. don't put it on us. got it?
you either improve your conduct/aggression, or adapt. I can. can't you?
just feels like you're blaming issues on us =.=
Yes.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm blaming others.
and that is bad form.
I don't see why Nancy or AE or even Rodemy shouldn't be lynched for inactivity. pushing scum will generate activity from their scumbuds.
derailing us from finding new leads, and going with this flow that scum have arranged, is not a good thing.
forcing a new flow that agrees with the town is to lynch an inactive.
I think its more bad form to allow any player to be attacked for being gone over a weekend.
Also for the record,
Sometimes I'm aggressive(Ok a lot of the time).
But you know what maybe we wouldn't be in a situation at all if some other players had attempted to talk to the two players on my wagon instead of allowing them to durdle around.
my wagon also comprise of players who just jump on. you're not one to talk.
and for the record, I'm left-handed. so what if I don't think like you, is that bad? it isn't.
tl;dr players have their reasons for acting like they do, it doesn't make them useless.
it should be your job to handle your conduct, and your wagon. don't put it on us. got it?
you either improve your conduct/aggression, or adapt. I can. can't you?
just feels like you're blaming issues on us =.=
Yes.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm blaming others.
and that is bad form.
I don't see why Nancy or AE or even Rodemy shouldn't be lynched for inactivity. pushing scum will generate activity from their scumbuds.
derailing us from finding new leads, and going with this flow that scum have arranged, is not a good thing.
forcing a new flow that agrees with the town is to lynch an inactive.
I think its more bad form to allow any player to be attacked for being gone over a weekend.
Oh good Terry being Terry.
we definitely aren't attacking them for being AWOL. looking back at their past posts does not help us. going forward with productive posters will be better on the long run, since we can get a clearer view of someone who has traveled with us from point A to point Z, then it is for us to read someone who followed us from point D to point Z. with that common sense, I see a reason for us to preserve the actives. scum also tend to kill off the active/townread players, and lynching an active only encourages that. are we looking to corner scum or not?
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Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
I love the idea of a Nancy Lynch or a DV Lynch or a DBS Lynch, all of them are front runners so I'm happy as a clam. People say we won't get much info from Lynch Nancy, but the whole reason I want that Lynch is because of interactions with the other two.
Well that on top of the other scummy stuff I've been on her about all day.
????
You've said practically nothing.
No, I've pointed out several issues.
"Ok, I'm going back to voting Nancy. She's done nothing and her excuse was that she came from a site that had short day phases, but she's talking less not more"
"This should be easier, not harder if you are used to faster games."
"You're still scum though. This is dodgy and non-committal to anything. Do work." (@Nancy)
"It wasn't an attack. I didn't want you to defend yourself. I want you to talk to me about Nancy." (@nobue being defensive for Nancy)
"Is this game really going to be that easy? Nancy attacks Grape for nothing, I call her scum, Nobue gets all in my face about it and then two posts after Kazin votes her she OMGUS? Then we have Vezo coming in and top scum reading Kazin, who is basically town firmed at this point. Vezo also says he "Really likes Nancy at this point" on this third post of the game.
@Vezo: Did you pull scum two games in a row?"
"It does seem to me that Nancy disappeared after I called her out on the Faux Grape case."
"Well you did call me a stupid idiot. Talk to me about Nancy. I put pressure on Nancy and she disappeared. Do you still think she's town?" (@nobue)
"Does anyone know nobue meta? He also struck me as buddying with Nancy."
"I'll explain it to you one time and politely request you refrain from questioning my intelligence.
It was a fake case. She pushed Grapefruit for the simple fact that she RVSed Vezo and tried to force a case off of nothing. This is aggressive behavior built on a throne of eggshells. This aggressiveness is something scum do to start shading people and get Day 1 mislynches rolling. The difference between what I did and what Nancy did was that she built a case on the foundation of an RVS vote. I built a case on the foundation of a non-RVS vote."
"Umm because it was clearly an RVS vote by Grape and Nancy Drew is already pushing a case on him for it. Too aggressive. Grape is one of my favorite players in the whole world, but that doesn't mean for a second that if I thought he was scum that I wouldn't hang him and stone him."
"Too Soon. Not RVS Vote: Nancy Drew"
Okay so, heres the earth I legitimately believe Nancy is our best lynch option. Behaviorally she’s been scummy when she has been here, and I don’t think we have a categorically better lynch within the more active players. I would be fine with Dawning if that’s our other option (though she’s voting for Nancy so that could be helpful?), but I don’t think DV is the right lynch for today. And I think we need to build up a wagon sooner than later for a time buffer for a claim.
I love the idea of a Nancy Lynch or a DV Lynch or a DBS Lynch, all of them are front runners so I'm happy as a clam. People say we won't get much info from Lynch Nancy, but the whole reason I want that Lynch is because of interactions with the other two.
Well that on top of the other scummy stuff I've been on her about all day.
????
You've said practically nothing.
No, I've pointed out several issues.
"Ok, I'm going back to voting Nancy. She's done nothing and her excuse was that she came from a site that had short day phases, but she's talking less not more"
"This should be easier, not harder if you are used to faster games."
"You're still scum though. This is dodgy and non-committal to anything. Do work." (@Nancy)
"It wasn't an attack. I didn't want you to defend yourself. I want you to talk to me about Nancy." (@nobue being defensive for Nancy)
"Is this game really going to be that easy? Nancy attacks Grape for nothing, I call her scum, Nobue gets all in my face about it and then two posts after Kazin votes her she OMGUS? Then we have Vezo coming in and top scum reading Kazin, who is basically town firmed at this point. Vezo also says he "Really likes Nancy at this point" on this third post of the game.
@Vezo: Did you pull scum two games in a row?"
"It does seem to me that Nancy disappeared after I called her out on the Faux Grape case."
"Well you did call me a stupid idiot. Talk to me about Nancy. I put pressure on Nancy and she disappeared. Do you still think she's town?" (@nobue)
"Does anyone know nobue meta? He also struck me as buddying with Nancy."
"I'll explain it to you one time and politely request you refrain from questioning my intelligence.
It was a fake case. She pushed Grapefruit for the simple fact that she RVSed Vezo and tried to force a case off of nothing. This is aggressive behavior built on a throne of eggshells. This aggressiveness is something scum do to start shading people and get Day 1 mislynches rolling. The difference between what I did and what Nancy did was that she built a case on the foundation of an RVS vote. I built a case on the foundation of a non-RVS vote."
"Umm because it was clearly an RVS vote by Grape and Nancy Drew is already pushing a case on him for it. Too aggressive. Grape is one of my favorite players in the whole world, but that doesn't mean for a second that if I thought he was scum that I wouldn't hang him and stone him."
"Too Soon. Not RVS Vote: Nancy Drew"
Umm
That's one point.
Can you break out what you think is more against Nancy?
Your only point is about nancy not doing anything.
my wagon also comprise of players who just jump on. you're not one to talk.
and for the record, I'm left-handed. so what if I don't think like you, is that bad? it isn't.
tl;dr players have their reasons for acting like they do, it doesn't make them useless.
it should be your job to handle your conduct, and your wagon. don't put it on us. got it?
you either improve your conduct/aggression, or adapt. I can. can't you?
just feels like you're blaming issues on us =.=
Yes.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm blaming others.
and that is bad form.
I don't see why Nancy or AE or even Rodemy shouldn't be lynched for inactivity. pushing scum will generate activity from their scumbuds.
derailing us from finding new leads, and going with this flow that scum have arranged, is not a good thing.
forcing a new flow that agrees with the town is to lynch an inactive.
I think its more bad form to allow any player to be attacked for being gone over a weekend.
Oh good Terry being Terry.
we definitely aren't attacking them for being AWOL. looking back at their past posts does not help us. going forward with productive posters will be better on the long run, since we can get a clearer view of someone who has traveled with us from point A to point Z, then it is for us to read someone who followed us from point D to point Z. with that common sense, I see a reason for us to preserve the actives. scum also tend to kill off the active/townread players, and lynching an active only encourages that. are we looking to corner scum or not?
That's quite literally not what I'm talking about.
If I can get you to remember. Half of the evidence both Kazin and KA used against me was that I disappeared for a weekend.
Yes.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm blaming others.
and that is bad form.
I don't see why Nancy or AE or even Rodemy shouldn't be lynched for inactivity. pushing scum will generate activity from their scumbuds.
derailing us from finding new leads, and going with this flow that scum have arranged, is not a good thing.
forcing a new flow that agrees with the town is to lynch an inactive.
I think its more bad form to allow any player to be attacked for being gone over a weekend.
Oh good Terry being Terry.
we definitely aren't attacking them for being AWOL. looking back at their past posts does not help us. going forward with productive posters will be better on the long run, since we can get a clearer view of someone who has traveled with us from point A to point Z, then it is for us to read someone who followed us from point D to point Z. with that common sense, I see a reason for us to preserve the actives. scum also tend to kill off the active/townread players, and lynching an active only encourages that. are we looking to corner scum or not?
That's quite literally not what I'm talking about.
If I can get you to remember. Half of the evidence both Kazin and KA used against me was that I disappeared for a weekend.
they mentioned that you weren't around, but it wasn't the main/only reason. having AWOL as a support to a bunch of reasons is understandable.
the other half of those reasons against you were that you were abrasive and wouldn't listen to their side of things. even flavor-clears from Rhand/Shadow was attacked.
I still say Nancy is worth lynching.
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I love the idea of a Nancy Lynch or a DV Lynch or a DBS Lynch, all of them are front runners so I'm happy as a clam. People say we won't get much info from Lynch Nancy, but the whole reason I want that Lynch is because of interactions with the other two.
Well that on top of the other scummy stuff I've been on her about all day.
????
You've said practically nothing.
No, I've pointed out several issues.
"Ok, I'm going back to voting Nancy. She's done nothing and her excuse was that she came from a site that had short day phases, but she's talking less not more"
"This should be easier, not harder if you are used to faster games."
"You're still scum though. This is dodgy and non-committal to anything. Do work." (@Nancy)
"It wasn't an attack. I didn't want you to defend yourself. I want you to talk to me about Nancy." (@nobue being defensive for Nancy)
"Is this game really going to be that easy? Nancy attacks Grape for nothing, I call her scum, Nobue gets all in my face about it and then two posts after Kazin votes her she OMGUS? Then we have Vezo coming in and top scum reading Kazin, who is basically town firmed at this point. Vezo also says he "Really likes Nancy at this point" on this third post of the game.
@Vezo: Did you pull scum two games in a row?"
"It does seem to me that Nancy disappeared after I called her out on the Faux Grape case."
"Well you did call me a stupid idiot. Talk to me about Nancy. I put pressure on Nancy and she disappeared. Do you still think she's town?" (@nobue)
"Does anyone know nobue meta? He also struck me as buddying with Nancy."
"I'll explain it to you one time and politely request you refrain from questioning my intelligence.
It was a fake case. She pushed Grapefruit for the simple fact that she RVSed Vezo and tried to force a case off of nothing. This is aggressive behavior built on a throne of eggshells. This aggressiveness is something scum do to start shading people and get Day 1 mislynches rolling. The difference between what I did and what Nancy did was that she built a case on the foundation of an RVS vote. I built a case on the foundation of a non-RVS vote."
"Umm because it was clearly an RVS vote by Grape and Nancy Drew is already pushing a case on him for it. Too aggressive. Grape is one of my favorite players in the whole world, but that doesn't mean for a second that if I thought he was scum that I wouldn't hang him and stone him."
"Too Soon. Not RVS Vote: Nancy Drew"
Umm
That's one point.
Can you break out what you think is more against Nancy?
Your only point is about nancy not doing anything.
ONE POINT!? That was like 20. Enough with your gross misrepresentations too. That was not my only point so clearly you saw a wall and your allergies started acting up. My point was that she forced a case on someone's RVS vote. It was too fast too soon. It's avoidance of people straight up asking her to scum hunt. It's bailing when the pressure turns on. It's that two of my other scum reads are defending Do-Nothing-Nancy for no apparent reason.
@DV: Are you really a girl or were you just pretending nobue was a girl? For some reason I always thought you were a guy.
But in that example, we lynch scum, why are you making excuses to not lynch AE?
Tell me what about him screams town to you?
I'm starting to think you are intentionally acting like this.
I've already laid out my arguments. That's the whole problem. Nothing screams town or scum about AE. If we lynch him we get almost 0 info. If we lynch someone active we can analyse their posts and make better informed decisions tomorrow.
Now that the deadline is coming I'm ok with lynching almost anyone. I hate no lynches more than anything.
You are making an argument bssed off the fact AE comes across neither town or scum, yet surmise that he is gonna flip town and we will get nothing.
I never said he is going to flip town. You are misrepresenting my posts. Please read them again.
So him flipping scum would be bad? I'm not seeing your mindset at all. The only way it would be bad to lynch AE is if he is town and we get no info. So you are making a reason not to lynch him because of that. And sure, that sounds good and all, but like, it's as if you know? You even shoot down "what ifs" involving him as scum by saying "That never happens" You argue for not lynching him strictly on the basis that we will get no info from him.
Why, yes, that does sound like scum trying to gain some town points in their town pants.
Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
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Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
then why did you vote me who was voting AE, and ex-inactive you?
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@DV: Are you really a girl or were you just pretending nobue was a girl? For some reason I always thought you were a guy.
*cough* ah, a gender crisis. does it matter? there is no gender when it comes to killing each other. sure, girls are generally aggressive, but I've seen guys have short tempers too~
(I think you're asking this question to know how to approach a supposedly sensitive person, for clarification purposes. no?)
rule of thumb is to always treat a girl like a guy if they present themselves that way. if you treat them the opposite, a real guy will be offended, and the girl will be infuriated. win-win situation!
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Well that on top of the other scummy stuff I've been on her about all day.
????
You've said practically nothing.
No, I've pointed out several issues.
"Ok, I'm going back to voting Nancy. She's done nothing and her excuse was that she came from a site that had short day phases, but she's talking less not more"
"This should be easier, not harder if you are used to faster games."
"You're still scum though. This is dodgy and non-committal to anything. Do work." (@Nancy)
"It wasn't an attack. I didn't want you to defend yourself. I want you to talk to me about Nancy." (@nobue being defensive for Nancy)
"Is this game really going to be that easy? Nancy attacks Grape for nothing, I call her scum, Nobue gets all in my face about it and then two posts after Kazin votes her she OMGUS? Then we have Vezo coming in and top scum reading Kazin, who is basically town firmed at this point. Vezo also says he "Really likes Nancy at this point" on this third post of the game.
@Vezo: Did you pull scum two games in a row?"
"It does seem to me that Nancy disappeared after I called her out on the Faux Grape case."
"Well you did call me a stupid idiot. Talk to me about Nancy. I put pressure on Nancy and she disappeared. Do you still think she's town?" (@nobue)
"Does anyone know nobue meta? He also struck me as buddying with Nancy."
"I'll explain it to you one time and politely request you refrain from questioning my intelligence.
It was a fake case. She pushed Grapefruit for the simple fact that she RVSed Vezo and tried to force a case off of nothing. This is aggressive behavior built on a throne of eggshells. This aggressiveness is something scum do to start shading people and get Day 1 mislynches rolling. The difference between what I did and what Nancy did was that she built a case on the foundation of an RVS vote. I built a case on the foundation of a non-RVS vote."
"Umm because it was clearly an RVS vote by Grape and Nancy Drew is already pushing a case on him for it. Too aggressive. Grape is one of my favorite players in the whole world, but that doesn't mean for a second that if I thought he was scum that I wouldn't hang him and stone him."
"Too Soon. Not RVS Vote: Nancy Drew"
Umm
That's one point.
Can you break out what you think is more against Nancy?
Your only point is about nancy not doing anything.
ONE POINT!? That was like 20. Enough with your gross misrepresentations too. That was not my only point so clearly you saw a wall and your allergies started acting up. My point was that she forced a case on someone's RVS vote. It was too fast too soon. It's avoidance of people straight up asking her to scum hunt. It's bailing when the pressure turns on. It's that two of my other scum reads are defending Do-Nothing-Nancy for no apparent reason.
@DV: Are you really a girl or were you just pretending nobue was a girl? For some reason I always thought you were a guy.
Most of the points seem against me.
Not against Nancy.
@DV: Are you really a girl or were you just pretending nobue was a girl? For some reason I always thought you were a guy.
*cough* ah, a gender crisis. does it matter? there is no gender when it comes to killing each other. sure, girls are generally aggressive, but I've seen guys have short tempers too~
(I think you're asking this question to know how to approach a supposedly sensitive person, for clarification purposes. no?)
rule of thumb is to always treat a girl like a guy if they present themselves that way. if you treat them the opposite, a real guy will be offended, and the girl will be infuriated. win-win situation!
disclaimer: this is a very off-game comment, isn't it?
I don't think you did this properly and may offend gender sensitive people. You are making unnecessary stereotypes. I just want to make sure I addressed DV properly.
I don't give a **** about Nancy at this point. They are going to be replaced soon I can deal with them tomorrow. Or they are going to participate and then I can make a decision tomorrow. I'm not lynching the ******* AFK today.
Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
then why did you vote me who was voting AE, and ex-inactive you?
what? Why is this relevant. Tell me why this is relevant. Is this relevant? I don't feel like it is.
I'm not saying i think he is scum right now. I'm just saying Vezoks case on not lynching him is because (i believe) he knows AE is town. PAY ATTENTION.
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Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
then why did you vote me who was voting AE, and ex-inactive you?
what? Why is this relevant. Tell me why this is relevant. Is this relevant? I don't feel like it is.
I'm not saying i think he is scum right now. I'm just saying Vezoks case on not lynching him is because (i believe) he knows AE is town. PAY ATTENTION.
I don't think DBS doesn't get it.
I think DBS is trying to deflect.
@DV: Are you really a girl or were you just pretending nobue was a girl? For some reason I always thought you were a guy.
*cough* ah, a gender crisis. does it matter? there is no gender when it comes to killing each other. sure, girls are generally aggressive, but I've seen guys have short tempers too~
(I think you're asking this question to know how to approach a supposedly sensitive person, for clarification purposes. no?)
rule of thumb is to always treat a girl like a guy if they present themselves that way. if you treat them the opposite, a real guy will be offended, and the girl will be infuriated. win-win situation!
disclaimer: this is a very off-game comment, isn't it?
I don't think you did this properly and may offend gender sensitive people. You are making unnecessary stereotypes. I just want to make sure I addressed DV properly.
you can just tl;dr this as....
treat them as you would on first impression. if correction wasn't asked of you, don't bother.
as for sensitive, I struggle with ridiculous accusations as it is, even having my clarifications ignored. this isn't any less. just suck it up and deal with it. pfft
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Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
then why did you vote me who was voting AE, and ex-inactive you?
what? Why is this relevant. Tell me why this is relevant. Is this relevant? I don't feel like it is.
I'm not saying i think he is scum right now. I'm just saying Vezoks case on not lynching him is because (i believe) he knows AE is town. PAY ATTENTION.
I don't think DBS doesn't get it.
I think DBS is trying to deflect.
Why the **** do i find myself agreeing with you this game? This never happens. Ever.
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Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
then why did you vote me who was voting AE, and ex-inactive you?
what? Why is this relevant. Tell me why this is relevant. Is this relevant? I don't feel like it is.
I'm not saying i think he is scum right now. I'm just saying Vezoks case on not lynching him is because (i believe) he knows AE is town. PAY ATTENTION.
if you're in that mindset, you should be applying that mindset to your votes. and should understand if someone of a similar mindset votes accordingly.
Vezok has a different mindset, and established it. I don't think there's any issue with Vezok's disagreement if he's been consistent about it.
I see a double standard in your accusation here.
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So him flipping scum would be bad? I'm not seeing your mindset at all. The only way it would be bad to lynch AE is if he is town and we get no info. So you are making a reason not to lynch him because of that. And sure, that sounds good and all, but like, it's as if you know? You even shoot down "what ifs" involving him as scum by saying "That never happens" You argue for not lynching him strictly on the basis that we will get no info from him.
Why, yes, that does sound like scum trying to gain some town points in their town pants.
Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
You're the type of player who misses the forest for the trees.
Lynching a lurker is like lynching at random. He has a higher chance of flipping town than scum. Lurking is usually against your win-condition and not inherently scummy. Roughly there's a 20~25% chance he flips scum and 75~80% he flips town. Or we could make an informed decision and lynch someone who's not a game of chance.
You also compare AE flipping to scum to not lynching scum. In the event where we have to choose between lynching lurker scum and active scum the second option is clearly superior as active players both have more interactions and hold more sway.
Nice strawman though.
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Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
then why did you vote me who was voting AE, and ex-inactive you?
what? Why is this relevant. Tell me why this is relevant. Is this relevant? I don't feel like it is.
I'm not saying i think he is scum right now. I'm just saying Vezoks case on not lynching him is because (i believe) he knows AE is town. PAY ATTENTION.
if you're in that mindset, you should be applying that mindset to your votes. and should understand if someone of a similar mindset votes accordingly.
Vezok has a different mindset, and established it. I don't think there's any issue with Vezok's disagreement if he's been consistent about it.
I see a double standard in your accusation here.
What double standard?
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So him flipping scum would be bad? I'm not seeing your mindset at all. The only way it would be bad to lynch AE is if he is town and we get no info. So you are making a reason not to lynch him because of that. And sure, that sounds good and all, but like, it's as if you know? You even shoot down "what ifs" involving him as scum by saying "That never happens" You argue for not lynching him strictly on the basis that we will get no info from him.
Why, yes, that does sound like scum trying to gain some town points in their town pants.
Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
You're the type of player who misses the forest for the trees.
Lynching a lurker is like lynching at random. He has a higher chance of flipping town than scum. Lurking is usually against your win-condition and not inherently scummy. Roughly there's a 20~25% chance he flips scum and 75~80% he flips town. Or we could make an informed decision and lynch someone who's not a game of chance.
You also compare AE flipping to scum to not lynching scum. In the event where we have to choose between lynching lurker scum and active scum the second option is clearly superior as active players both have more interactions and hold more sway.
Nice strawman though.
Don't you sound fancy with your numbers and percentages. I'm onto you. Just so ya know.
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I never said he is going to flip town. You are misrepresenting my posts. Please read them again.
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I'm coming back in just to say.
You don't have the votes to lynch me today.
To put me on the table as a possible lynch is just scummy.
To try and force my lynch is scummy.
The fact that you bring this up as a possibility is scummy.
I have three people voting me.
All three of which are basically just keeping the seats warm.
Why are you suspecting me again?
I'm no longer concerned that I dislike mafia. (Which was a concern after how this game went).
MAL cleared that up real quick for me.
This post by DBS screams scum since DBS was voting me. Then talks to Rodemy like her vote is still there. Then jumps to the AFK.
I'd 100% CFD onto Terry.
I'm game.
Rodemy is ******* town that's really apparent.
Shadow's shot down the list for going after Nancy again. Nancy and Rhand are basically the same entity yet Shadow ignores Rhand and goes for Nancy. And follows DBS, while also saying would lynch DBS.
But with 48 hours to go there is probabally a clear dichotomy between Nancy and DBS.
????
You've said practically nothing.
How do you know this?
He does not surmise I'm fliping town. He's saying "town" as in the mafia NK. I.E. I get lynched we go into night and scum kill a townie.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
oh? iirc I RB'd someone, said I wanted to lynch a specific person, and voted another suspect - in Zero Escape. what about that post screamed scum!DBS?
if there's any CFD, I say it's Azrael (as stated before).
nothing says that Rodemy is town, in fact, there is no derp-clear for him while there seem to be some degree of it for others.
if you recall, Shadow and Rhand have interacted in regards to clearing me. Nancy and Shadow haven't interacted on such a level. it's understandable for Shadow to go after Nancy.
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Sorry, didn't realize I had to spell this part out. With 48 hours to go and DBS voting Nancy a low vote wagon that has no chance of succeeding, its a pretty clear dichotomy.
Also, Why exactly are you scum reading me?
What is the case on me?
What case exists at all?
Cause that's all I got. Rhands vote doesn't even count. Its literally a rage vote.
You got two other players voting me for god knows what reason. You only ever rage voted me. Now you seem to think I'm scummy? You legit said "If Nobue was going to continue to live I had a problem". That seemed to be your only reason. If you want to lynch me over three players being utterly worthless on day one feel free to do so. But then, who is really making the bad plays?
You don't have the legit votes to lynch me and you know it. So, how is this bad play?
I'll repeat again. What is the case on me?
- you don't acknowledge anything off about Nancy as a new player not clashing with you, yet say new players are usually suspicious of you.
- at first you want to lynch the inactives, but change later because SOMEONE ELSE voted me. yet you said I was likely town when you self-replaced.
- you said to me that one narrative means scum. correction, scum have few narratives since they have a better view of the board. how is the lack of narratives scummy?
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Be grateful, always."
Mmm
That isn't how this reads.
This reads to me as though you're hedging your bets and going its not the right lynch but I'd do it.
My point is this.
I have Tom, Azreal, Shadow, Myself, and to a lesser extent Grape and maybe Rodemy that are not voting me today.
Two of these are Highly town read by the wagon that is on me.
For me to be lynched today I can only be lynched by a massive scum push.
Hence me getting lynched today is near impossible.
No lynching Azreal isn't an option.
I don't give a **** about Nancy at this point. They are going to be replaced soon I can deal with them tomorrow. Or they are going to participate and then I can make a decision tomorrow. I'm not lynching the ******* AFK today.
I was half joking with the inactive it was more to get reads. Also lynching inactives day one is bad.
I don't even know what you're getting at for the last two. My opinion changed, I explained why it changed.
That might be your case and that's more recent and frankly at least you make sense or DBS sense. But the others. IDK why at this point they are voting me.
...................
=.=
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Sometimes I'm aggressive(Ok a lot of the time).
But you know what maybe we wouldn't be in a situation at all if some other players had attempted to talk to the two players on my wagon instead of allowing them to durdle around.
“I would lynch Dawning, but I wouldn’t lynch DV” can’t get much clearer when you’re both possible wagons today based on being vote leaders.
Also stop pushing against the Nancy wagon, lurking or not she’s been scummy enough to make a good lynch, if you want her not to be, make a case for her being townie, not a case that she’s inactive and not worth lynching.
and for the record, I'm left-handed. so what if I don't think like you, is that bad? it isn't.
tl;dr players have their reasons for acting like they do, it doesn't make them useless.
it should be your job to handle your conduct, and your wagon. don't put it on us. got it?
you either improve your conduct/aggression, or adapt. I can. can't you?
just feels like you're blaming issues on us =.=
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Yes.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm blaming others.
@Shadow that's quite literally not what you said but ok.
You said "I don't think DV is the right lynch" not "I won't lynch DV"
I just don't see a scum case on Nancy that I buy.
There are 11 posts.
Confirm post
1
I think a decent post, that did some analysis.
2
Clarification
3
Another ok post.
4
Catching up post
5
A couple posts with some content, but not really much
7
Dumb post
8
Then some ok posts but not really, but new
11
That's it. What reads as scum?
I don't see why Nancy or AE or even Rodemy shouldn't be lynched for inactivity. pushing scum will generate activity from their scumbuds.
derailing us from finding new leads, and going with this flow that scum have arranged, is not a good thing.
forcing a new flow that agrees with the town is to lynch an inactive.
Be grateful, always."
I think its more bad form to allow any player to be attacked for being gone over a weekend.
Oh good Terry being Terry.
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"This should be easier, not harder if you are used to faster games."
"You're still scum though. This is dodgy and non-committal to anything. Do work." (@Nancy)
"It wasn't an attack. I didn't want you to defend yourself. I want you to talk to me about Nancy." (@nobue being defensive for Nancy)
"Is this game really going to be that easy? Nancy attacks Grape for nothing, I call her scum, Nobue gets all in my face about it and then two posts after Kazin votes her she OMGUS? Then we have Vezo coming in and top scum reading Kazin, who is basically town firmed at this point. Vezo also says he "Really likes Nancy at this point" on this third post of the game.
@Vezo: Did you pull scum two games in a row?"
"It does seem to me that Nancy disappeared after I called her out on the Faux Grape case."
"Well you did call me a stupid idiot. Talk to me about Nancy. I put pressure on Nancy and she disappeared. Do you still think she's town?" (@nobue)
"Does anyone know nobue meta? He also struck me as buddying with Nancy."
"I'll explain it to you one time and politely request you refrain from questioning my intelligence.
It was a fake case. She pushed Grapefruit for the simple fact that she RVSed Vezo and tried to force a case off of nothing. This is aggressive behavior built on a throne of eggshells. This aggressiveness is something scum do to start shading people and get Day 1 mislynches rolling. The difference between what I did and what Nancy did was that she built a case on the foundation of an RVS vote. I built a case on the foundation of a non-RVS vote."
"Umm because it was clearly an RVS vote by Grape and Nancy Drew is already pushing a case on him for it. Too aggressive. Grape is one of my favorite players in the whole world, but that doesn't mean for a second that if I thought he was scum that I wouldn't hang him and stone him."
"Too Soon. Not RVS Vote: Nancy Drew"
Umm
That's one point.
Can you break out what you think is more against Nancy?
Your only point is about nancy not doing anything.
That's quite literally not what I'm talking about.
If I can get you to remember. Half of the evidence both Kazin and KA used against me was that I disappeared for a weekend.
the other half of those reasons against you were that you were abrasive and wouldn't listen to their side of things. even flavor-clears from Rhand/Shadow was attacked.
I still say Nancy is worth lynching.
Be grateful, always."
@DV: Are you really a girl or were you just pretending nobue was a girl? For some reason I always thought you were a guy.
So him flipping scum would be bad? I'm not seeing your mindset at all. The only way it would be bad to lynch AE is if he is town and we get no info. So you are making a reason not to lynch him because of that. And sure, that sounds good and all, but like, it's as if you know? You even shoot down "what ifs" involving him as scum by saying "That never happens" You argue for not lynching him strictly on the basis that we will get no info from him.
Why, yes, that does sound like scum trying to gain some town points in their town pants.
Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
Be grateful, always."
(I think you're asking this question to know how to approach a supposedly sensitive person, for clarification purposes. no?)
rule of thumb is to always treat a girl like a guy if they present themselves that way. if you treat them the opposite, a real guy will be offended, and the girl will be infuriated. win-win situation!
disclaimer: this is a very off-game comment, isn't it?
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Most of the points seem against me.
Not against Nancy.
Also play acting is play acting. I'm a guy.
I just see Nancy as a bad lynch.
what? Why is this relevant. Tell me why this is relevant. Is this relevant? I don't feel like it is.
I'm not saying i think he is scum right now. I'm just saying Vezoks case on not lynching him is because (i believe) he knows AE is town. PAY ATTENTION.
I don't think DBS doesn't get it.
I think DBS is trying to deflect.
treat them as you would on first impression. if correction wasn't asked of you, don't bother.
as for sensitive, I struggle with ridiculous accusations as it is, even having my clarifications ignored. this isn't any less. just suck it up and deal with it. pfft
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Why the **** do i find myself agreeing with you this game? This never happens. Ever.
Vezok has a different mindset, and established it. I don't think there's any issue with Vezok's disagreement if he's been consistent about it.
I see a double standard in your accusation here.
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You're the type of player who misses the forest for the trees.
Lynching a lurker is like lynching at random. He has a higher chance of flipping town than scum. Lurking is usually against your win-condition and not inherently scummy. Roughly there's a 20~25% chance he flips scum and 75~80% he flips town. Or we could make an informed decision and lynch someone who's not a game of chance.
You also compare AE flipping to scum to not lynching scum. In the event where we have to choose between lynching lurker scum and active scum the second option is clearly superior as active players both have more interactions and hold more sway.
Nice strawman though.
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Nailed it and just getting over the flu isn't helping matters. *shrug*
Hopefully, I'll do better D2.
What double standard?
Don't you sound fancy with your numbers and percentages. I'm onto you. Just so ya know.