And shadow is far more suspicious behaviorally and in claimed ability than vez.
No, this just isn’t true. Are you planning to ever give me a read list or are you going to just continue ignoring me?
He just playing his fiddle.
Watch this though.
Hey Azreal remember when you made the statement. Scum are trying to stop you from being rolecopped and I showed Rodemy saying that. Can you quote at me exactly what you meant by that. Instead of your flippant shade of bull*****. Also, because I'm a nice guy and I want to help you make your case I'm going to keep posting this exact message every time you post until you answer.
Yo. Stop this.
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A) a game from 13 years ago.
And
B) A game where Day 2 had a misslynch, and had some sort of crazy day killing mechanic going on in this game.
And
C) With two misslynches the town lost.
GREAT BALANCED game you referenced there Azreal.
Actually, the game where the town mislynched four times, and three of them were neutral lynches. (Puzzle, ljustus, armlx, axelrod). Also the game that came down to a single vote as the decider, after a mod-kill and a misvig both hit the town. No one complained about the balance.
I actually forgot how perfect an example of how killing neutrals generates town losses that game really is. Even killing neutrals, in Ljustus' case, as his interests actually aligned quite well with the town's. And the survivor lynch clinched the loss.
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Kazin – Slip cleared
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Rodemy
AE
Rhand – No neg pings from record, so lean-town.
Nancy – too many nervous, fish out of water tells to get a clear read /DOTA
I'm probably bitter but I'm thinking the set-up was balanced agaisnt the town, we myslynched twice and only had that one very bad night where fayul killed sg and ended up dying. Plus thats with both possible traitors not turning.
I'm probably bitter but I'm thinking the set-up was balanced agaisnt the town, we myslynched twice and only had that one very bad night where fayul killed sg and ended up dying. Plus thats with both possible traitors not turning.
It worked out fine and I think Az knew it would. It does seem like the deck is piled agiasnt us but it was a great game anyway. Great time lurking. JC played a good game, I thought he was town for sure. Rhino has soe flaws but overall did play well.
Also you don't get to make that statement that scum don't want you rolecopped and are trying to stop it.
And then not address Rodemy.
So cough it up mate.
What the **** do you mean.
Also I am addressing most of what you say as bull*****. I don't even want to quibble over the myriad of junk you've said in this thread. I don't think you believe a word about not lynching neutrals ETC. Its just you trying to survive. Like you and I can just drop it because frankly I'm just going to keep pointing to mindscrew and you're going to keep dancing around the subject. And its getting annoying.
And shadow is far more suspicious behaviorally and in claimed ability than vez.
No, this just isn’t true. Are you planning to ever give me a read list or are you going to just continue ignoring me?
He just playing his fiddle.
Watch this though.
Hey Azreal remember when you made the statement. Scum are trying to stop you from being rolecopped and I showed Rodemy saying that. Can you quote at me exactly what you meant by that. Instead of your flippant shade of bull*****. Also, because I'm a nice guy and I want to help you make your case I'm going to keep posting this exact message every time you post until you answer.
Yo. Stop this.
No.
I'm tired of Azreal saying statements getting called out and then refusing to answer them.
Its unfair and unfun. He just keeps saying Random ass ***** and then when he's legitimately called out he just ignores it. Like he has with shadow in that post.
If we would have lynched Azrael day 1 like I told you half this crap wouldn't have happened. We would have figured it is a no flip game without lynching who we aren't sure is town or scum.
Anyway, I'm down for lynching Terry, Azrael and shadow today. Maybe AE too, but I'd need some convincing.
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So... The more I read back through, the more I start to wonder about Tom... Az as a Neutral is probably as everyone says: very meh. And thanks to the census early on, we know there is in fact a Neutral in the game. Now without flips, we don't know if someone else was the Neutral... like just going on a hypothesis and not really backed by too much fact... as there's almost NONE in this game so far... What if Az and Tom are actually Scum together? Or like one of those Neutral Scum roles that actually wants the Scum to win?
Could be 3 AM paranoid brain talk... but in every instance where people get gung-ho about Lynching Az, it's Tom to come forward and consistently talk about his "distant iceberg"ness... and then blow it off course. There are roles that are Neutral and still scum allied... right? I've seen them in other versions... But that actually feels more like we should be role-copping people like Tom and Shadow... who a fair few of us have in our Town aligned roles... but then again, that begs the possibility we even trust the role cops as claimed... Iunno... Rambling now so gonna stop... but the link between Az and Tom is mostly the thing I wanted to point out.
DV, when I'm talking about scum trying to take away role cop on me, I'm referring to privately, through vanilla juice. I expect the scum to be far more focused on getting me lynched in their public statements, than arguing there is no need to role cop me because I am not a threat. So no, Rodemy doesn't concern me in the slightest.
It's the people angling for a mislynch, sooner or later, that concern me.
DV, I've gone on the record many, many times in defense of neutrals the town was going to mislynch. I despise unnecessary lynches.
I'm an objective based thinker and player. My objective is, ordinarily, to kill the mafia. Not to fearmonger my way into killing extraneous targets and fritter away valuable lynches, but to kill mafia. Period.
Now, I don't know what your guy's win condition states. But if you are so concerned I am a serial killer, perhaps you folks should go consult with Iso about who exactly you are supposed to kill to achieve victory this game. If I'm not included, which I won't be, that is also pretty good evidence even apart from a role cop that A) I'm not a killing neutral, and B) iso isn't an idiot to put a serial killer in a game this small.
And shadow is far more suspicious behaviorally and in claimed ability than vez.
No, this just isn’t true. Are you planning to ever give me a read list or are you going to just continue ignoring me?
He just playing his fiddle.
Watch this though.
Hey Azreal remember when you made the statement. Scum are trying to stop you from being rolecopped and I showed Rodemy saying that. Can you quote at me exactly what you meant by that. Instead of your flippant shade of bull*****. Also, because I'm a nice guy and I want to help you make your case I'm going to keep posting this exact message every time you post until you answer.
Yo. Stop this.
No.
I'm tired of Azreal saying statements getting called out and then refusing to answer them.
Its unfair and unfun. He just keeps saying Random ass ***** and then when he's legitimately called out he just ignores it. Like he has with shadow in that post.
Because you are calling him out for dumb *****.
Yeah, i dont want him rolecopped. YEAH HE SAID THAT. Welp, guess we are all scum. D_V wins.
Maybe you are more inclined to get answers if you stop being so agressive and to be frank, a dick.
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@Az: you believe that me, Tom, and Terry are all knowingly aligned together? Really?
So I’m at the point where I think this day has gone to shambles and the turn away from the Terry lynch has me concerned. I think even if we kept Terry alive to rolecop someone it’s not a result I could trust, and I want to lynch Terry anyway.
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**** of Rodemy.
I chuckled. Thanks for the laugh Rodemy. That'll be your new calling card. lol.
Noooooooooooooo.
Az is a deflect. We have no reason to believe he is bad. No negstive night actions point to him. And he has no reason to be antitown due to, ya know, him trying to survive.
I may be so wrong abput everything in this game and that's okay. But ive been playong for years now and i like to think im good st figuring things out in my own weird way.
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I should be mostly cleared by role and I don't even know what the team would have to be for me not to be spewed clear by them. I'm pretty demonstrably not scum with dawn/dota/joe/arch/rod/az...
I should be mostly cleared by role and I don't even know what the team would have to be for me not to be spewed clear by them. I'm pretty demonstrably not scum with dawn/dota/joe/arch/rod/az...
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Generally cleared by your role? A vanilla neighbor in a game of prs.
That is the opposite of s clear, that's a suspicion.
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I should be mostly cleared by role and I don't even know what the team would have to be for me not to be spewed clear by them. I'm pretty demonstrably not scum with dawn/dota/joe/arch/rod/az...
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Generally cleared by your role? A vanilla neighbor in a game of prs.
That is the opposite of s clear, that's a suspicion.
literally how?
You have to either think there's a ~vanilla scum in a role madness game
Or speculate on me having factional abilities with no basis.
DV, I've gone on the record many, many times in defense of neutrals the town was going to mislynch. I despise unnecessary lynches.
I'm an objective based thinker and player. My objective is, ordinarily, to kill the mafia. Not to fearmonger my way into killing extraneous targets and fritter away valuable lynches, but to kill mafia. Period.
Now, I don't know what your guy's win condition states. But if you are so concerned I am a serial killer, perhaps you folks should go consult with Iso about who exactly you are supposed to kill to achieve victory this game. If I'm not included, which I won't be, that is also pretty good evidence even apart from a role cop that A) I'm not a killing neutral, and B) iso isn't an idiot to put a serial killer in a game this small.
Come on mate.
You know exactly what Iso is going to say.
"You need to lynch all threats to Town."
Are you really implying that a mod would signal that a neutral needs to be lynched? Seriously?
What ever I'm done.
Maybe after this loss to another one of these neutral claims MTGS will start lynching this *****.
I seriously don't know how many protection roles need to be in the game for people to start having Danger signs going off.
**** of Rodemy.
I chuckled. Thanks for the laugh Rodemy. That'll be your new calling card. lol.
Noooooooooooooo.
Az is a deflect. We have no reason to believe he is bad. No negstive night actions point to him. And he has no reason to be antitown due to, ya know, him trying to survive.
I may be so wrong abput everything in this game and that's okay. But ive been playong for years now and i like to think im good st figuring things out in my own weird way.
vote tom
Sorry, son.
RODEMY
How are you ignoring the MILLION of protection roles in this game.
So I think it's just fact that joe is trueclaiming regardless of alignment. There's a tinfoil world where he's scum with rodemy and was fed that information, but I don't see any reason to suspect that.
Much more likely rodemy is town and scum just wanted to know my role.
As for shadow, if joe is scum he wouldn't have jailed me since they already knew I had no abilities.
Still possible he's a roleblocker instead and hit DV, but again. Nothing pointing to that. Just possible.
And with the opportunistic push on AZ that's probably not viable either. The exact joe/rod/AZ world exists but it's too ridiculous probably.
So think AZ is just neutral and Joe not targeting AZ any night is what really showed his scum mindset almost as much as his push on me.
Dota a bit less likely with Joe, but see nothing to change my opinion on dawn.
Oversimplified rainbow is something like:
rhand/dv/grape/kazin/kami
rodemy/vezok/shadow/dota
azrael
joe/dawn/arch
Feels like it's 2 reds and a light green most of the time
I think me pushing him day 2 when everyone else was ignoring him is not something I do to a buddy. And his weak ass "I'm changing my playstyle to be less abrasive" response should further that.
And then I immediately called him out for the hammer
And then I've been making sure he was the lynch all day today
But if none of that does it for you because I have infinite scumrange or whatever, explain this post if we're w/w:
@shadow: Does your jailer ability only prevent kills on the target?
Correct, my target is both protected from dying and roleblocked.
@tom: Either your role does something else or someone roleblcked DV.
gonna go ahead and wait for him to confirm.
Also still waiting on Terry to claim target
I, however, am just a neighbor
I confirm this. Tom was my N1 target, BUT my ability specifically says I learn that player's non-factional abilities at the beginning of the next Day and out of the blue ISO PMed me a couple days ago and clarified that non-factional refers to abilities not granted as a result of alignment, then he used the example of the mafia nightkill or a SK nightkill.
I mean that's how I always read it anyway, but the timing of his unprompted clarification was interesting. My gut says that ISO may very well have just made two town neighbors, but the balance seems off and under powering Tom. Tom's role specifically says that he does not know the alignment of his neighbor, which seems odd in a scum pm, but it could just be standard wording.
So I think it's just fact that joe is trueclaiming regardless of alignment. There's a tinfoil world where he's scum with rodemy and was fed that information, but I don't see any reason to suspect that.
Much more likely rodemy is town and scum just wanted to know my role.
As for shadow, if joe is scum he wouldn't have jailed me since they already knew I had no abilities.
Still possible he's a roleblocker instead and hit DV, but again. Nothing pointing to that. Just possible.
And with the opportunistic push on AZ that's probably not viable either. The exact joe/rod/AZ world exists but it's too ridiculous probably.
So think AZ is just neutral and Joe not targeting AZ any night is what really showed his scum mindset almost as much as his push on me.
Dota a bit less likely with Joe, but see nothing to change my opinion on dawn.
Oversimplified rainbow is something like:
rhand/dv/grape/kazin/kami
rodemy/vezok/shadow/dota
azrael
joe/dawn/arch
Feels like it's 2 reds and a light green most of the time
So I think it's just fact that joe is trueclaiming regardless of alignment. There's a tinfoil world where he's scum with rodemy and was fed that information, but I don't see any reason to suspect that.
Much more likely rodemy is town and scum just wanted to know my role.
As for shadow, if joe is scum he wouldn't have jailed me since they already knew I had no abilities.
Still possible he's a roleblocker instead and hit DV, but again. Nothing pointing to that. Just possible.
And with the opportunistic push on AZ that's probably not viable either. The exact joe/rod/AZ world exists but it's too ridiculous probably.
So think AZ is just neutral and Joe not targeting AZ any night is what really showed his scum mindset almost as much as his push on me.
Dota a bit less likely with Joe, but see nothing to change my opinion on dawn.
Oversimplified rainbow is something like:
rhand/dv/grape/kazin/kami
rodemy/vezok/shadow/dota
azrael
joe/dawn/arch
Feels like it's 2 reds and a light green most of the time
So my great play was to try to rolecop my buddy AE? Then clear him? Are you joking! That’s the dumbest scum team possible. Oh then vanillaize him too. Like my only scum buddy alive, I’m going to do that do?! Not to mention that I am not and idiot scum player and know full well what my hammer did to my rep and did it anyway, but Just in case I didn’t get enough heat for my hammer I’m just going to come out and try to clear my LAST partner with my super NOT suspicious role cop claim, oh but that’s not enough S&M for me and AE I’m going to shoot him with my cream beam too.
**** of Rodemy.
I chuckled. Thanks for the laugh Rodemy. That'll be your new calling card. lol.
Noooooooooooooo.
Az is a deflect. We have no reason to believe he is bad. No negstive night actions point to him. And he has no reason to be antitown due to, ya know, him trying to survive.
I may be so wrong abput everything in this game and that's okay. But ive been playong for years now and i like to think im good st figuring things out in my own weird way.
vote tom
Sorry, son.
RODEMY
How are you ignoring the MILLION of protection roles in this game.
Nothing to indicate that Azreal is dangerous.
L O L
yeah, how are we ignoring the million protection roles but only talking about lynching a neighbor and a cop?
So I think it's just fact that joe is trueclaiming regardless of alignment. There's a tinfoil world where he's scum with rodemy and was fed that information, but I don't see any reason to suspect that.
Much more likely rodemy is town and scum just wanted to know my role.
As for shadow, if joe is scum he wouldn't have jailed me since they already knew I had no abilities.
Still possible he's a roleblocker instead and hit DV, but again. Nothing pointing to that. Just possible.
And with the opportunistic push on AZ that's probably not viable either. The exact joe/rod/AZ world exists but it's too ridiculous probably.
So think AZ is just neutral and Joe not targeting AZ any night is what really showed his scum mindset almost as much as his push on me.
Dota a bit less likely with Joe, but see nothing to change my opinion on dawn.
Oversimplified rainbow is something like:
rhand/dv/grape/kazin/kami
rodemy/vezok/shadow/dota
azrael
joe/dawn/arch
Feels like it's 2 reds and a light green most of the time
So I think it's just fact that joe is trueclaiming regardless of alignment. There's a tinfoil world where he's scum with rodemy and was fed that information, but I don't see any reason to suspect that.
Much more likely rodemy is town and scum just wanted to know my role.
As for shadow, if joe is scum he wouldn't have jailed me since they already knew I had no abilities.
Still possible he's a roleblocker instead and hit DV, but again. Nothing pointing to that. Just possible.
And with the opportunistic push on AZ that's probably not viable either. The exact joe/rod/AZ world exists but it's too ridiculous probably.
So think AZ is just neutral and Joe not targeting AZ any night is what really showed his scum mindset almost as much as his push on me.
Dota a bit less likely with Joe, but see nothing to change my opinion on dawn.
Oversimplified rainbow is something like:
rhand/dv/grape/kazin/kami
rodemy/vezok/shadow/dota
azrael
joe/dawn/arch
Feels like it's 2 reds and a light green most of the time
So my great play was to try to rolecop my buddy AE? Then clear him? Are you joking! That’s the dumbest scum team possible. Oh then vanillaize him too. Like my only scum buddy alive, I’m going to do that do?! Not to mention that I am not and idiot scum player and know full well what my hammer did to my rep and did it anyway, but Just in case I didn’t get enough heat for my hammer I’m just going to come out and try to clear my LAST partner with my super NOT suspicious role cop claim, oh but that’s not enough S&M for me and AE I’m going to shoot him with my cream beam too.
This is by far Tom’s worst ever post.
a you+arch team is not even mentioned in this post
Just fyi
I mean I definitely think that team is viable. All of that could have happened.
But literally didn't mention it there
I just saw the red and assumed that was your team, but no if I was scum with AE that would be the most out of this world tinfoil hat theory and maybe like 104% impossible
I should be mostly cleared by role and I don't even know what the team would have to be for me not to be spewed clear by them. I'm pretty demonstrably not scum with dawn/dota/joe/arch/rod/az...
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Generally cleared by your role? A vanilla neighbor in a game of prs.
That is the opposite of s clear, that's a suspicion.
literally how?
You have to either think there's a ~vanilla scum in a role madness game
Or speculate on me having factional abilities with no basis.
No basis? Tom it's when you say these things i roll my eyes.
That rolecop that you think cleared you. Saw non factional abilities.
Here, change my mind. Did you claim before or after you were rolecopped?
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I should be mostly cleared by role and I don't even know what the team would have to be for me not to be spewed clear by them. I'm pretty demonstrably not scum with dawn/dota/joe/arch/rod/az...
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Generally cleared by your role? A vanilla neighbor in a game of prs.
That is the opposite of s clear, that's a suspicion.
literally how?
You have to either think there's a ~vanilla scum in a role madness game
Or speculate on me having factional abilities with no basis.
No basis? Tom it's when you say these things i roll my eyes.
That rolecop that you think cleared you. Saw non factional abilities.
Here, change my mind. Did you claim before or after you were rolecopped?
before I think?
I definitely claimed before in neighbor chat
Please tell me what basis you have. That I just randomly have factional abilities because _____
why is it against your wincon? Also how does role copping you clear Vezo? You said that earlier
Scum will not have a bulletproof, if the town/neutrals do not have a vigilante. So, role copping would theoretically have cleared up that I do not have a kill.
However, I just checked with Iso yesterday, and apparently all my abilities are considered factional and will not show up. So, role-copping won't actually clear me after all. : / That was kinda why it my win con to have you live a tad longer, even as my leading lynch choice.
I think that means Terry's best value target if he's allowed to survive is Shadow. That may let you figure out if Shadow's ability is factional or not, and/or true as claimed. But yeah, I guess I don't have a stake in Terry surviving over anyone else at this point.
I should be mostly cleared by role and I don't even know what the team would have to be for me not to be spewed clear by them. I'm pretty demonstrably not scum with dawn/dota/joe/arch/rod/az...
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Generally cleared by your role? A vanilla neighbor in a game of prs.
That is the opposite of s clear, that's a suspicion.
literally how?
You have to either think there's a ~vanilla scum in a role madness game
Or speculate on me having factional abilities with no basis.
No basis? Tom it's when you say these things i roll my eyes.
That rolecop that you think cleared you. Saw non factional abilities.
Here, change my mind. Did you claim before or after you were rolecopped?
before I think?
I definitely claimed before in neighbor chat
Please tell me what basis you have. That I just randomly have factional abilities because _____
Scum.
However, the longer we go on, the longer i realoze both kazin AND vezok are hiding. I almost forgot kazin was even in the game still.
Tom, you could actually be the holder of the kraken. And that ***** is factional most likely concidering az was not affected.
Or, shadow d_v and Terry are lying and that's your scumteam.
Only three people got redirected n1, correct? (SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS) or at least claimed to be.
Unable to prove any falseclaimed ability, you stick with the one you can prove: neighbor, you got lucky with the nonfactional rolecop.
So az was not affected, someone holds the kraken and will not come forward, which means its a scum ability and wont be seen by terry.
Did terry claim to have rolecopped you before or after we claimed neighbors? That might actually change my mind.
Dv- whats your role again and who was target n1 and 2
Shadow- JK
Terry- Non Factional Rolecop
Tom- Neighbor
Kazin- [PLEASE RESTATE YOUR ROLE AND TARGETS N1 AND 2
Vezok- [PLEASE RESTATE YOUR ROLE AND TATGRTS N1 AND 2]
AE: Copycat [Targets n1 and 2?]
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I'm just going to ignore rodemy as every post of his eats at my sanity.
I'm glad Azrael checked his role after 3 months and realised all his abilities are factional. He truly deserves to live until the end game for his glorious contributions to this thread.
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I'm just going to ignore rodemy as every post of his eats at my sanity.
I'm glad Azrael checked his role after 3 months and realised all his abilities are factional. He truly deserves to live until the end game for his glorious contributions to this thread.
Are you saying you agree with DV that Az should be lynched, or are you just lashing out at him?
Overly agressive.
I agree, you have been.
Yo. Stop this.
Literally the first post after the game ended.
But yeah nobody complained at all.
And then not address Rodemy.
So cough it up mate.
What the **** do you mean.
Also I am addressing most of what you say as bull*****. I don't even want to quibble over the myriad of junk you've said in this thread. I don't think you believe a word about not lynching neutrals ETC. Its just you trying to survive. Like you and I can just drop it because frankly I'm just going to keep pointing to mindscrew and you're going to keep dancing around the subject. And its getting annoying.
No.
I'm tired of Azreal saying statements getting called out and then refusing to answer them.
Its unfair and unfun. He just keeps saying Random ass ***** and then when he's legitimately called out he just ignores it. Like he has with shadow in that post.
Anyway, I'm down for lynching Terry, Azrael and shadow today. Maybe AE too, but I'd need some convincing.
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Could be 3 AM paranoid brain talk... but in every instance where people get gung-ho about Lynching Az, it's Tom to come forward and consistently talk about his "distant iceberg"ness... and then blow it off course. There are roles that are Neutral and still scum allied... right? I've seen them in other versions... But that actually feels more like we should be role-copping people like Tom and Shadow... who a fair few of us have in our Town aligned roles... but then again, that begs the possibility we even trust the role cops as claimed... Iunno... Rambling now so gonna stop... but the link between Az and Tom is mostly the thing I wanted to point out.
Also lol at me+az. Rodemy would have to be the third for confirming AZ neutral, and joe the 4th for confirming me/rodemy neighbors...
It's the people angling for a mislynch, sooner or later, that concern me.
I'm an objective based thinker and player. My objective is, ordinarily, to kill the mafia. Not to fearmonger my way into killing extraneous targets and fritter away valuable lynches, but to kill mafia. Period.
Now, I don't know what your guy's win condition states. But if you are so concerned I am a serial killer, perhaps you folks should go consult with Iso about who exactly you are supposed to kill to achieve victory this game. If I'm not included, which I won't be, that is also pretty good evidence even apart from a role cop that A) I'm not a killing neutral, and B) iso isn't an idiot to put a serial killer in a game this small.
Because you are calling him out for dumb *****.
Yeah, i dont want him rolecopped. YEAH HE SAID THAT. Welp, guess we are all scum. D_V wins.
Maybe you are more inclined to get answers if you stop being so agressive and to be frank, a dick.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
But i confirmed us neighbors :/
**** of Rodemy.
I chuckled. Thanks for the laugh Rodemy. That'll be your new calling card. lol.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
So I’m at the point where I think this day has gone to shambles and the turn away from the Terry lynch has me concerned. I think even if we kept Terry alive to rolecop someone it’s not a result I could trust, and I want to lynch Terry anyway.
Vote Terry
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Noooooooooooooo.
Az is a deflect. We have no reason to believe he is bad. No negstive night actions point to him. And he has no reason to be antitown due to, ya know, him trying to survive.
I may be so wrong abput everything in this game and that's okay. But ive been playong for years now and i like to think im good st figuring things out in my own weird way.
vote tom
Sorry, son.
I should be mostly cleared by role and I don't even know what the team would have to be for me not to be spewed clear by them. I'm pretty demonstrably not scum with dawn/dota/joe/arch/rod/az...
Like
Yeah
Generally cleared by your role? A vanilla neighbor in a game of prs.
That is the opposite of s clear, that's a suspicion.
You have to either think there's a ~vanilla scum in a role madness game
Or speculate on me having factional abilities with no basis.
Come on mate.
You know exactly what Iso is going to say.
"You need to lynch all threats to Town."
Are you really implying that a mod would signal that a neutral needs to be lynched? Seriously?
What ever I'm done.
Maybe after this loss to another one of these neutral claims MTGS will start lynching this *****.
I seriously don't know how many protection roles need to be in the game for people to start having Danger signs going off.
The Tom wagon is dumb as *****.
Unvote Vote Terry
RODEMY
How are you ignoring the MILLION of protection roles in this game.
Nothing to indicate that Azreal is dangerous.
L O L
Much more likely rodemy is town and scum just wanted to know my role.
As for shadow, if joe is scum he wouldn't have jailed me since they already knew I had no abilities.
Still possible he's a roleblocker instead and hit DV, but again. Nothing pointing to that. Just possible.
And with the opportunistic push on AZ that's probably not viable either. The exact joe/rod/AZ world exists but it's too ridiculous probably.
So think AZ is just neutral and Joe not targeting AZ any night is what really showed his scum mindset almost as much as his push on me.
Dota a bit less likely with Joe, but see nothing to change my opinion on dawn.
Oversimplified rainbow is something like:
rhand/dv/grape/kazin/kami
rodemy/vezok/shadow/dota
azrael
joe/dawn/arch
Feels like it's 2 reds and a light green most of the time
Well, have fun lynching scum today.
And then I immediately called him out for the hammer
And then I've been making sure he was the lynch all day today
But if none of that does it for you because I have infinite scumrange or whatever, explain this post if we're w/w:
That's not a thing
This is by far Tom’s worst ever post.
Just fyi
I mean I definitely think that team is viable. All of that could have happened.
But literally didn't mention it there
Only combination of alignments for the two of you that's impossible is town/town
No basis? Tom it's when you say these things i roll my eyes.
That rolecop that you think cleared you. Saw non factional abilities.
Here, change my mind. Did you claim before or after you were rolecopped?
Tell me what YOU believe AZ is. (Rolewise)
Have i mentioned i hate this game?
I definitely claimed before in neighbor chat
Please tell me what basis you have. That I just randomly have factional abilities because _____
Scum will not have a bulletproof, if the town/neutrals do not have a vigilante. So, role copping would theoretically have cleared up that I do not have a kill.
However, I just checked with Iso yesterday, and apparently all my abilities are considered factional and will not show up. So, role-copping won't actually clear me after all. : / That was kinda why it my win con to have you live a tad longer, even as my leading lynch choice.
I think that means Terry's best value target if he's allowed to survive is Shadow. That may let you figure out if Shadow's ability is factional or not, and/or true as claimed. But yeah, I guess I don't have a stake in Terry surviving over anyone else at this point.
Because role madness?
Scum.
However, the longer we go on, the longer i realoze both kazin AND vezok are hiding. I almost forgot kazin was even in the game still.
Tom, you could actually be the holder of the kraken. And that ***** is factional most likely concidering az was not affected.
Or, shadow d_v and Terry are lying and that's your scumteam.
Only three people got redirected n1, correct? (SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER THIS) or at least claimed to be.
Unable to prove any falseclaimed ability, you stick with the one you can prove: neighbor, you got lucky with the nonfactional rolecop.
So az was not affected, someone holds the kraken and will not come forward, which means its a scum ability and wont be seen by terry.
Did terry claim to have rolecopped you before or after we claimed neighbors? That might actually change my mind.
Dv- whats your role again and who was target n1 and 2
Shadow- JK
Terry- Non Factional Rolecop
Tom- Neighbor
Kazin- [PLEASE RESTATE YOUR ROLE AND TARGETS N1 AND 2
Vezok- [PLEASE RESTATE YOUR ROLE AND TATGRTS N1 AND 2]
AE: Copycat [Targets n1 and 2?]
We don't really know ***** about the Kraken.
I don't know what planet you're living on since all of these claims were really nicely laid out and Tom has been talking Ad Nauseam about my role.
Also I've clearly established that Azreal is the SK.
I've said that about 200 times as well.
With one death a night? I dont really believe that.
I asked because i have *****ty signal and a phone and cant peruse much to find it.
So, that wasnt helpful at all, D_V.
I'm glad Azrael checked his role after 3 months and realised all his abilities are factional. He truly deserves to live until the end game for his glorious contributions to this thread.
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With a million protection roles?
Are we just in a loop. Or are you purposefully doing this?