Trying to catch up but the bickering on the last page definitely makes it harder to pay attention.
I still think DBS is town, but just on a completely different page to everyone else. I don't think scum!DBS reacts to being wrong about Az the way she did.
I think this is town DV? It reminds me a lot of his play in Overwatch which wasn't town, but was townish because he did have to "solve".
I haven't liked much Archmage Eternal has done, but I did like him calling out Kazin for a bad town read.
I've been starting to tinfoil Rhand. He's been busy so there isn't much to look at, but his flavor clear just sticks out to me. It's one thing to recall it because you were in the game, but now in retrospect it feels opportunistic in a gut way I'm having trouble articulating. His big post in 362 passes the sniff test but between the DBS clear and the fact that apart from DV no one is bringing him up as an option today is strange. If this was a game full of MTGS veterans I might buy it happening naturally. But that's not really the case here. Just feels like he should be coming up more than he has.
Because there is ~no way~ you are saying: If we lynch him and he flips scum, that would be bad. I don't give a **** if we get no info from that lynch, that is one scum down.
then why did you vote me who was voting AE, and ex-inactive you?
what? Why is this relevant. Tell me why this is relevant. Is this relevant? I don't feel like it is.
I'm not saying i think he is scum right now. I'm just saying Vezoks case on not lynching him is because (i believe) he knows AE is town. PAY ATTENTION.
I don't think DBS doesn't get it.
I think DBS is trying to deflect.
Why the **** do i find myself agreeing with you this game? This never happens. Ever.
I've yet to see a (good) reason to push Nancy or Archmage, and they both left a vaguely positive impression in real time. They're both weak, but I wouldn't vote either over dawn, as, vezok, Kami, shadow
I don't have a lot of specifics to pin this on, but I am starting to feel a dbs/D_V scumteam.
The interaction feels... forced? They're flinging mud at each other but not actually focusing on proving the other's scumminess. D_V has spent probably 10x more time defending themselves than making cases, while dbs proposed a "dichotomy" with D_V and promptly dropped it.
This feels like they both saw they were the two main wagons, and that one would be the likely lynch, and each decided to distance from the other, in the hopes that at least one would come out looking town.
I don't like lynching claimed docs, one-shot or not, but I'm willing to consider dbs now. However, I still believe D_V to be the better lynch of the two.
I guess it's too late to move people to Rhand then...
I hate both the top wagons. They feel like lynching different to me. Anyone on DBS explain why she would change her opinion on Az when she did as scum. It made no sense. Look at DV's play he hasn't used his reveal to try and push anything or anyone. He's just using it as meta to defend himself. He's playing frustrated and emotionally in a way that screams indignant town to me.
Rodemy and Nancy have literally zero compelling me to lynch them.
I don't have a lot of specifics to pin this on, but I am starting to feel a dbs/D_V scumteam.
The interaction feels... forced? They're flinging mud at each other but not actually focusing on proving the other's scumminess. D_V has spent probably 10x more time defending themselves than making cases, while dbs proposed a "dichotomy" with D_V and promptly dropped it.
This feels like they both saw they were the two main wagons, and that one would be the likely lynch, and each decided to distance from the other, in the hopes that at least one would come out looking town.
I don't like lynching claimed docs, one-shot or not, but I'm willing to consider dbs now. However, I still believe D_V to be the better lynch of the two.
if you didn't read, I left the dichotomy since Rodemy pushed it by voting me (and he's my scumread). I don't like that you're pushing the idea too.
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I don't have a lot of specifics to pin this on, but I am starting to feel a dbs/D_V scumteam.
The interaction feels... forced? They're flinging mud at each other but not actually focusing on proving the other's scumminess. D_V has spent probably 10x more time defending themselves than making cases, while dbs proposed a "dichotomy" with D_V and promptly dropped it.
This feels like they both saw they were the two main wagons, and that one would be the likely lynch, and each decided to distance from the other, in the hopes that at least one would come out looking town.
I don't like lynching claimed docs, one-shot or not, but I'm willing to consider dbs now. However, I still believe D_V to be the better lynch of the two.
if you didn't read, I left the dichotomy since Rodemy pushed it by voting me (and he's my scumread). I don't like that you're pushing the idea too.
Is there a new reason i am your scumread?
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@DV: I have a huge respect for you as a player. I think the persona you chose for Nobue was not a good choice, but the fact that I let that get to me as I did, probably means it is time for me to retire, which I will do after this game. Mafia should be fun, and I’m letting it get to me too much, probably making me unknowingly / unwillingly add to the toxic environment it sometimes becomes.
Question for you: do you genuinely not believe in slips or is that part of the persona you created?
Oh and I am capable of changing reads, but I need stuff to happen that gives me a reason to.
Anyways, I don’t think that slot is scum. DV wouldn’t have talked the way he talked about me as scum. unvote
Grape’s vote on me comes out of the blue and is bad. I think almost everyone has voiced their opinion on me townclearing on flavor. Feels like a scum push to me.
And then dawning’s vote? She has been calling me town tons of times and now votes me because I’m VLA? Makes no sense whatsoever.
My preferred lynches are Vezok / Grape. Ok with lynching Kami / Nancy / Rodemy. Would add my vote to dawning / AE / Azrael to avoid a no lynch. Not lynching Shadow / tom / terry / DV / Kazin.
With the most recent votecount in mind, vote Nancy
For reference, I'm here and reading. And I want it to be clear, I'm not "parking" anywhere. I am voting for the person I am more than 90% sure is scum.
Grape’s vote on me comes out of the blue and is bad. I think almost everyone has voiced their opinion on me townclearing on flavor. Feels like a scum push to me.
And then dawning’s vote? She has been calling me town tons of times and now votes me because I’m VLA? Makes no sense whatsoever.
My preferred lynches are Vezok / Grape. Ok with lynching Kami / Nancy / Rodemy. Would add my vote to dawning / AE / Azrael to avoid a no lynch. Not lynching Shadow / tom / terry / DV / Kazin.
With the most recent votecount in mind, vote Nancy
Why is my vote bad? Just saying it is doesn't make it so. And People have voiced opinions on you flavor clearing. Initially I thought it was townie but between that, your (understandable) desire to policy lynch Nobue, and now your vote on Nancy for wmomentum you haven't shown much in the way of scum hunting or inquisitiveness. You've just been poking at periphery things and reacting to them.
Why is my vote bad? Just saying it is doesn't make it so. And People have voiced opinions on you flavor clearing. Initially I thought it was townie but between that, your (understandable) desire to policy lynch Nobue, and now your vote on Nancy for wmomentum you haven't shown much in the way of scum hunting or inquisitiveness. You've just been poking at periphery things and reacting to them.
The vote is bad because you're upset that others aren't voting me for the flavor thing while initially you were calling me town for it yourself. And very weird that your reasoning for voting me this close to deadline boils down to you not understanding why others aren't on my case. You're not owning the vote.
The bolded is just a smear. You're ignoring everything that happened before nobue got under my skin.
no. I'm annoyed that most of this game was about flaming rather than reasoning, even the votes. since I don't care, I'll just follow consensus.[/quote]You moved from one of the wagons tied for lead (D_V) to a wagon that had one vote on it (Rhand). How is that following consensus?
For reference, I'm here and reading. And I want it to be clear, I'm not "parking" anywhere. I am voting for the person I am more than 90% sure is scum.
Also, I missed a vote change: dbs first hopped to nancy (still a relatively large wagon) before jumping to Rhand.
I'm OK with a DBS lynch if it's the only option as we approach zero hour, but I want D_V. Nancy is worse than either of them as a lynch but better than a no lynch.
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Bickering. Insolence. Insults. I'd expect nothing less from a group of lowlives, dedicated to plundering the high seas. But Which of them wants me gone?
Why. Am i that bad of a captain? Did i not provide enough? I must stand my ground. I must bring this mutiny to an end. I must... stay calm
"Okay ya scurvy dogs, listen up! The powers that be have informed me of how many TRAITORS their are. We are now one step closer to finding these land-loving scallywags, AND TOSSIN EM TO THE SHARKS. NOW QUIT YER HECKLING AND SAVE MY ******* SHIP"
There are:
10 town
1 Neut
3 scum
Which means AZ is telling the truth.
*throws hand up in the air and turns around" I'll be in me cabin for the night. May Poseidon grant you all clarity.
Good enough
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It’s not the best choice, but it’s a choice nonetheless
Interesting. At the minimum Rodemy is willing to openly link himself to Az. If Az ever turns out to be scum, I think that guarantees Rodemy is scum. The reverse is not necessarily true, though.
Nancy and Grapefruit are not voting? Wait. I thought Grapefruit just voted Rhand.
Bickering. Insolence. Insults. I'd expect nothing less from a group of lowlives, dedicated to plundering the high seas. But Which of them wants me gone?
Why. Am i that bad of a captain? Did i not provide enough? I must stand my ground. I must bring this mutiny to an end. I must... stay calm
"Okay ya scurvy dogs, listen up! The powers that be have informed me of how many TRAITORS their are. We are now one step closer to finding these land-loving scallywags, AND TOSSIN EM TO THE SHARKS. NOW QUIT YER HECKLING AND SAVE MY ******* SHIP"
There are:
10 town
1 Neut
3 scum
Which means AZ is telling the truth.
*throws hand up in the air and turns around" I'll be in me cabin for the night. May Poseidon grant you all clarity.
Good enough
Well, he could be telling the truth about being neutral, but not about how his role works. Anyways, I'm fine not lynching him today, but he can't live to his wincon.
Interesting. At the minimum Rodemy is willing to openly link himself to Az. If Az ever turns out to be scum, I think that guarantees Rodemy is scum. The reverse is not necessarily true, though.
Nancy and Grapefruit are not voting? Wait. I thought Grapefruit just voted Rhand.
Iso: is the votecount correct?
Ha. Hahahaha. How, or even WHY the hell would i do that?
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Bickering. Insolence. Insults. I'd expect nothing less from a group of lowlives, dedicated to plundering the high seas. But Which of them wants me gone?
Why. Am i that bad of a captain? Did i not provide enough? I must stand my ground. I must bring this mutiny to an end. I must... stay calm
"Okay ya scurvy dogs, listen up! The powers that be have informed me of how many TRAITORS their are. We are now one step closer to finding these land-loving scallywags, AND TOSSIN EM TO THE SHARKS. NOW QUIT YER HECKLING AND SAVE MY ******* SHIP"
There are:
10 town
1 Neut
3 scum
Which means AZ is telling the truth.
*throws hand up in the air and turns around" I'll be in me cabin for the night. May Poseidon grant you all clarity.
Good enough
Well, he could be telling the truth about being neutral, but not about how his role works. Anyways, I'm fine not lynching him today, but he can't live to his wincon.
He is? Like, I had a one shot consensus taker. thought it was a night shot. Turns out, it was anytime.
So that is the setup of the game as of d1.
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I am pretty strongly against a rhand lynch. My strong townread faded when he wasn't here a bunch, but...
Yeah the flavor clear of dawn was terrible. But i think it comes from town.
If he was scum sitting there with the knowledge him and his buddies are pirates, probably characters from that old game like dawn is, he just doesn't make that post. Cuz he would factually know it's bad.
There's, like, maybe a chance he's w/w with dawning and came up with that bad clear on purpose for a low accountability townread on a buddy, but I would never lynch him before dawn, and I fail to see a reason for scumrhand to do that for towndawn.
And that recent post about DV I just... fully buy. It's not super alignment indicative as it's realistically just talking about DV overall (as in across all games not just in this one) but he did apply it to this game in a way that looks natural.
I am pretty strongly against a rhand lynch. My strong townread faded when he wasn't here a bunch, but...
Yeah the flavor clear of dawn was terrible. But i think it comes from town.
If he was scum sitting there with the knowledge him and his buddies are pirates, probably characters from that old game like dawn is, he just doesn't make that post. Cuz he would factually know it's bad.
There's, like, maybe a chance he's w/w with dawning and came up with that bad clear on purpose for a low accountability townread on a buddy, but I would never lynch him before dawn, and I fail to see a reason for scumrhand to do that for towndawn.
And that recent post about DV I just... fully buy. It's not super alignment indicative as it's realistically just talking about DV overall (as in across all games not just in this one) but he did apply it to this game in a way that looks natural.
Veto the rhand cfd
I basically agree with all of this.
Also I’m pretty sure Rodemy is probably just town after that post string, his demeanor with his claim reminds me of his play info horsemen, and I think that means Az is a neutral in basically all worlds (them being scum/scum would be nonsensical based on everything between them).
Dawning’s vote hopping is...weird, like the apathy seems genuine but I’m not really sure that makes her town (I kind of almost think the opposite?), but I have no qualms with that lynch if people really fight against a Nancy lynch.
DV is just not paying attention; several times asserting that dawning was leading the Nancy wagon as well as his taking the exact opposite meaning from my post about not wanting to lynch him is just infuriating. Like dude, pay attention please.
@Kazin: I know it’s not really fair to you, but I think you need to throw out your feelings on the Nobue persona and start again with that read.
@Rhand: probably a conversation for postgame, but I don’t think retiring for mafia because you got tilted is the right call, heck even I got titled by that, and that’s not really something that happens.
Interesting. At the minimum Rodemy is willing to openly link himself to Az. If Az ever turns out to be scum, I think that guarantees Rodemy is scum. The reverse is not necessarily true, though.
Nancy and Grapefruit are not voting? Wait. I thought Grapefruit just voted Rhand.
Iso: is the votecount correct?
Ha. Hahahaha. How, or even WHY the hell would i do that?
The hypothetical play is:
Az is scum, gambits neutral.
You are scum, decide to "all-in" on his gambit, claim a count (maybe you really know the count, maybe you don't, maybe it's even false and there's really a 10/4 split or something).
But I don't think that scenario is likely. I do think that Az is probably really a neutral.
However, it's useful to establish potential links. If Az is scum, then there isn't a neutral (if there was one, they would have counterclaimed against either you or Az.) Which means you're lying.
Although actually. A neutral like an SK might be perfectly happy with using Az and you as cover. Or even some Survivor plays.
I think I just talked myself out of my previous conclusion. Az scum doesn't necessarily mean you're scum.
I’m going to sleep now and won’t wake up before deadline :/
How about you move your vote to DV first?
HOw about instead you talk to me about Nancy and why she’s not scum?
I don't think she's definitely not scum. If I had to rate them, I'd give Nancy 50%, DBS 60%. But DBS does give us a lot more interaction reads, which might be worth the risk of killing a doc. And of course DV is way ahead of either.
Interesting. At the minimum Rodemy is willing to openly link himself to Az. If Az ever turns out to be scum, I think that guarantees Rodemy is scum. The reverse is not necessarily true, though.
Nancy and Grapefruit are not voting? Wait. I thought Grapefruit just voted Rhand.
Iso: is the votecount correct?
Ha. Hahahaha. How, or even WHY the hell would i do that?
The hypothetical play is:
Az is scum, gambits neutral.
You are scum, decide to "all-in" on his gambit, claim a count (maybe you really know the count, maybe you don't, maybe it's even false and there's really a 10/4 split or something).
But I don't think that scenario is likely. I do think that Az is probably really a neutral.
However, it's useful to establish potential links. If Az is scum, then there isn't a neutral (if there was one, they would have counterclaimed against either you or Az.) Which means you're lying.
Although actually. A neutral like an SK might be perfectly happy with using Az and you as cover. Or even some Survivor plays.
I think I just talked myself out of my previous conclusion. Az scum doesn't necessarily mean you're scum.
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*Frowns*
I'd love to jump on a wagon that's not me, if only you guys would actually try to lynch at least one of the scum.
I still think DBS is town, but just on a completely different page to everyone else. I don't think scum!DBS reacts to being wrong about Az the way she did.
I think this is town DV? It reminds me a lot of his play in Overwatch which wasn't town, but was townish because he did have to "solve".
I haven't liked much Archmage Eternal has done, but I did like him calling out Kazin for a bad town read.
I've been starting to tinfoil Rhand. He's been busy so there isn't much to look at, but his flavor clear just sticks out to me. It's one thing to recall it because you were in the game, but now in retrospect it feels opportunistic in a gut way I'm having trouble articulating. His big post in 362 passes the sniff test but between the DBS clear and the fact that apart from DV no one is bringing him up as an option today is strange. If this was a game full of MTGS veterans I might buy it happening naturally. But that's not really the case here. Just feels like he should be coming up more than he has.
Vote: Rhand
I agree with DV and rodemy
Yowza not a sentence I expected to be typing
The interaction feels... forced? They're flinging mud at each other but not actually focusing on proving the other's scumminess. D_V has spent probably 10x more time defending themselves than making cases, while dbs proposed a "dichotomy" with D_V and promptly dropped it.
This feels like they both saw they were the two main wagons, and that one would be the likely lynch, and each decided to distance from the other, in the hopes that at least one would come out looking town.
I don't like lynching claimed docs, one-shot or not, but I'm willing to consider dbs now. However, I still believe D_V to be the better lynch of the two.
Somebody needs to step in before I get mean.
K thx.
I hate both the top wagons. They feel like lynching different to me. Anyone on DBS explain why she would change her opinion on Az when she did as scum. It made no sense. Look at DV's play he hasn't used his reveal to try and push anything or anyone. He's just using it as meta to defend himself. He's playing frustrated and emotionally in a way that screams indignant town to me.
Rodemy and Nancy have literally zero compelling me to lynch them.
Read my post, come lynch Rhand with me.
Be grateful, always."
voting the VLA people..
Be grateful, always."
Will post thoughts asap.
Is there a new reason i am your scumread?
Question for you: do you genuinely not believe in slips or is that part of the persona you created?
Oh and I am capable of changing reads, but I need stuff to happen that gives me a reason to.
Anyways, I don’t think that slot is scum. DV wouldn’t have talked the way he talked about me as scum.
unvote
Grape’s vote on me comes out of the blue and is bad. I think almost everyone has voiced their opinion on me townclearing on flavor. Feels like a scum push to me.
And then dawning’s vote? She has been calling me town tons of times and now votes me because I’m VLA? Makes no sense whatsoever.
My preferred lynches are Vezok / Grape. Ok with lynching Kami / Nancy / Rodemy. Would add my vote to dawning / AE / Azrael to avoid a no lynch. Not lynching Shadow / tom / terry / DV / Kazin.
With the most recent votecount in mind,
vote Nancy
Be grateful, always."
Be grateful, always."
Did my VLA get you annoyed then?
Why is my vote bad? Just saying it is doesn't make it so. And People have voiced opinions on you flavor clearing. Initially I thought it was townie but between that, your (understandable) desire to policy lynch Nobue, and now your vote on Nancy for wmomentum you haven't shown much in the way of scum hunting or inquisitiveness. You've just been poking at periphery things and reacting to them.
What does that even mean? That you vote against your reads if it makes you "enjoy" the game more?
Be grateful, always."
The vote is bad because you're upset that others aren't voting me for the flavor thing while initially you were calling me town for it yourself. And very weird that your reasoning for voting me this close to deadline boils down to you not understanding why others aren't on my case. You're not owning the vote.
The bolded is just a smear. You're ignoring everything that happened before nobue got under my skin.
@KA
I made an attack on Kazin for this.
I didn't even use the phrase parking.
Kazin clearly has access to scum chat.
AND is defensive.
See he's defending himself that is scum.
Nancy.
Lead by dawn.
Also, I missed a vote change: dbs first hopped to nancy (still a relatively large wagon) before jumping to Rhand.
I'm OK with a DBS lynch if it's the only option as we approach zero hour, but I want D_V. Nancy is worse than either of them as a lynch but better than a no lynch.
Iso: can we get a votecount?
Be grateful, always."
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Vote Count:
Rodemy (1): Archmage Eternal
Nancy Drew 39 (3): shadowlancerx, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Rhand
D_V (3): KamikazeArchon, Kazin Drake, dawningbluesky
dawningbluesky (4): vezokpiraka, tomsloger, Rodemy, D_V
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (1): Azrael
Rhand (1): Grapefruit21
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The deadline expires in approximately 7 hours.
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And some good info to think about over the night i guess. HOLD FAST
AE, what are you doing sitting all alone on Rodemy with only hours left?
Why. Am i that bad of a captain? Did i not provide enough? I must stand my ground. I must bring this mutiny to an end. I must... stay calm
"Okay ya scurvy dogs, listen up! The powers that be have informed me of how many TRAITORS their are. We are now one step closer to finding these land-loving scallywags, AND TOSSIN EM TO THE SHARKS. NOW QUIT YER HECKLING AND SAVE MY ******* SHIP"
There are:
10 town
1 Neut
3 scum
Which means AZ is telling the truth.
*throws hand up in the air and turns around" I'll be in me cabin for the night. May Poseidon grant you all clarity.
Good enough
Nancy and Grapefruit are not voting? Wait. I thought Grapefruit just voted Rhand.
Iso: is the votecount correct?
Ha. Hahahaha. How, or even WHY the hell would i do that?
He is? Like, I had a one shot consensus taker. thought it was a night shot. Turns out, it was anytime.
So that is the setup of the game as of d1.
Yeah the flavor clear of dawn was terrible. But i think it comes from town.
If he was scum sitting there with the knowledge him and his buddies are pirates, probably characters from that old game like dawn is, he just doesn't make that post. Cuz he would factually know it's bad.
There's, like, maybe a chance he's w/w with dawning and came up with that bad clear on purpose for a low accountability townread on a buddy, but I would never lynch him before dawn, and I fail to see a reason for scumrhand to do that for towndawn.
And that recent post about DV I just... fully buy. It's not super alignment indicative as it's realistically just talking about DV overall (as in across all games not just in this one) but he did apply it to this game in a way that looks natural.
Veto the rhand cfd
Also I’m pretty sure Rodemy is probably just town after that post string, his demeanor with his claim reminds me of his play info horsemen, and I think that means Az is a neutral in basically all worlds (them being scum/scum would be nonsensical based on everything between them).
Dawning’s vote hopping is...weird, like the apathy seems genuine but I’m not really sure that makes her town (I kind of almost think the opposite?), but I have no qualms with that lynch if people really fight against a Nancy lynch.
DV is just not paying attention; several times asserting that dawning was leading the Nancy wagon as well as his taking the exact opposite meaning from my post about not wanting to lynch him is just infuriating. Like dude, pay attention please.
@Kazin: I know it’s not really fair to you, but I think you need to throw out your feelings on the Nobue persona and start again with that read.
@Rhand: probably a conversation for postgame, but I don’t think retiring for mafia because you got tilted is the right call, heck even I got titled by that, and that’s not really something that happens.
Az is scum, gambits neutral.
You are scum, decide to "all-in" on his gambit, claim a count (maybe you really know the count, maybe you don't, maybe it's even false and there's really a 10/4 split or something).
But I don't think that scenario is likely. I do think that Az is probably really a neutral.
However, it's useful to establish potential links. If Az is scum, then there isn't a neutral (if there was one, they would have counterclaimed against either you or Az.) Which means you're lying.
Although actually. A neutral like an SK might be perfectly happy with using Az and you as cover. Or even some Survivor plays.
I think I just talked myself out of my previous conclusion. Az scum doesn't necessarily mean you're scum.
I feel Tom is town and will follow his lead.
unvote
vote dawningbluesky
They hate us cause they ain't us.
unvote
vote dawningbluesky
I am almost going to call a no lynch today.
Just watch.