KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Unvote Vote Grapefruit
I'm sick and town of town self voting out of frustration.
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF IT.
If you're town, which I can't help but think is the case with that self vote, then shame on you, but I'm done with it, and I will be policy voting anyone who self votes in any scenario that is not LyLo from here on out. Townies continuing to do this is going to make it an okay scum tactic and I'm not going to stand for it.
DV here you go
I'll give you one chance, no more
Unvote and don't again.@Rhand, RE: Tom
I don't care his thoughts on me
I do his a Chris read
And all other reads
For that is where I catch him
Though he has town pings
Do you think that reads
On yourself, truly help you?
It's too close to home.
Let's see what I got
from Haiku told to me now
For suspects today
I will say this though
Quick votes on D_V are sick
Scum unlikely there
Lay off D_V please
Scum wagons don't work like that
Vote off a voter!
##vote:Shadowlancerx
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Questions for D_V
I left them in my last post
I hope he answers Odd to see Sir Chris
Coming to bat for D_V
Not scum-scum Ling-grr-rrr
Lots of empty words
Where are reads?
Unvote Vote Grapefruit
I'm sick and town of town self voting out of frustration.
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF IT.
If you're town, which I can't help but think is the case with that self vote, then shame on you, but I'm done with it, and I will be policy voting anyone who self votes in any scenario that is not LyLo from here on out. Townies continuing to do this is going to make it an okay scum tactic and I'm not going to stand for it.
DV here you go
I'll give you one chance, no more
Unvote and don't again.
I dislike this part.
Strong emotions... second chance?
Seems too quick I think?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Killjoy is annoyed
That's likely a good look there
Genuine feeling
Dota I like here
Good catch about LNG
Hypocrites are scum
Not for sure granted
But haiku limits me there
I like the point made
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Unvote Vote Grapefruit
I'm sick and town of town self voting out of frustration.
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF IT.
If you're town, which I can't help but think is the case with that self vote, then shame on you, but I'm done with it, and I will be policy voting anyone who self votes in any scenario that is not LyLo from here on out. Townies continuing to do this is going to make it an okay scum tactic and I'm not going to stand for it.
DV here you go
I'll give you one chance, no more
Unvote and don't again.
I dislike this part.
Strong emotions... second chance?
Seems too quick I think?
Killjoy, I'm confused
What didn't you like about that?
Do you disagree?
I'm not sold on ling
Will watch and see what happens
Where has DV gone?
Hello LNG
Interesting post you got
Let's duscuss caution
What is in a vote
That are not in my statement
To make you speak so?
I was quite clear
I liked the point against you
So I am confused
Weak question really
But to answer nonetheless.
I just like my vote
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DV having plan?
That is quite funny truthfully
DV has finals
. . . . .
. . . . . . .
. . . . .
if youre scum here, you would like
have a backup push
not just, "welp. tom won
might as well vote for myself"
doesnt sound like you
good luck on finals
still think you might be scumming
but i like your dots
and that’s really not good
frustration seems real
self-voting is bad
both as town and as scum play
so doesn’t tell what
Tom’s reactions good
I think he might be town here
Adding to that pile
Dawningbluesky is
Hastily agreeing DV
Not liking at all
Shadow I’m thinking
Might very well be scum for
This weird post he made:
Shadow: why ask him
About his Chris read and not
The read on yourself?
Anaklusmos coasts
Without adding anything
Also worries me
Town: Dota and Lngrrr
Lean town: Rod, KJ and tom
Null: Chris, Psych, DV
Lean scum: Anaklus,
Shadow and Dawningbluesky
That is my T/S
I keep my vote here
On Anaklusmos who coasts
Please provide us reads
Define it in your own words please.
DotA might be town.
Hey there Chris.
What's this accomplishing?
More than seen?
Curiosity:
Paying attention is town?
Seems too simple, no?
Rhand has nice questions.
And observations as well.
Leaning town maybe?
Rhand townreading you early.
How you feel about that?
Footsteps behind me
My pulse quickens, unsteady
Revealed in time
So many friends, yet
I hold my breath, searching eyes
before I drink tea
Beloved puppy man,
Why do you ask me of Rhand
When there are others?
He stands behind you
Can you sense an open hand?
Or is it a fist?
Rodemy, your choice
Can only be made by you
But you are not right
Can you reach the top
Without first climbing each stair?
One step at a time
All, if I'm not clear
I can just cheat by writing
Broken sentences.
What is gained through ease?
Nothing of lasting value
Truth must be fought for
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Self votes, even on day one
This vote will not move:
Vote DV
Rhand, I had wondered
When someone would question me
Regarding that post
Basically you see,
Asking tom about that read
Doesn't help at all
I'd much rather that
He talk about reads elsewhere
Than talk about me
Isn't he easier to read
when talking of you?
Do you not look back
When a townie has flipped town
For interactions?
You know you are town
So by reading how he acts
You could look through him
Unless of course you
Are not town yourself and you
Want him to back off
Which I think is true
So without further ado
[b]vote: Shadow[b] choochoo!
For agreeing with dee vee
Also lingerer
Because he is just
Distracting us with good poems
And not good scumreads.
I think i like tom
Mostly because he shares
My read on dee vee
Shadow always scares
Me because he got me in
'Paco mafia
Sir chris posted once
Haiku reads are really hard.
I have to agree
Rhand starting to read
Townie asking good questions
Shadow read is next
His vote on dee vee
Haha it seems really bad.
Where did that come from?
Even though i think
Dee vee is a scummy scum
Shadows vote feels forced.
All the rest are null
Because haikus hard to read
Ugh grr bleh bloo bleh
Be pretty easy to fig-
ure out my meaning.
It takes the fun out
If I am just chopping up
Normal sentences
Into lines of 5
7-5. What's the point of
Playing a haiku
Game without trying
To actually make haikus?
Seems foolish to me.
Expecting hard reads
In a game with 3 pages
Also seems foolish.
Especially when
Those 3 pages are all
Made up of haikus
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Not against obviously
But I'm still thinking
I need to come up
With a good haiku insult
Probably for Rhand
Maybe dbs
One of those two, for tonight
Not sure which one yet
@shadow does dv know
Your self voters thing?
Would maybe insult
You instead if dv town
As of this moment
D_V (5): Psychatrog, tomsloger, Rodemy, D_V, shadowlancerx
shadowlancerx (2): Anaklusmos, Rhand
Killjoy (1): LnGrrrR
LnGrrrR (1): DoTArchon
Sir Chris (1): Killjoy
tomsloger (1): dawningbluesky
Not voting: Sir Chris
Psychatrog
is on V/LA
till Monday.
Lynch threshold this Day
is reached when a player has
Seven votes on them.
Day 1 deadline is
The midnight of Wednesday,
December 13th.
This was a town game of mine
Wouldn't matter though. DV here you go
I'll give you one chance, no more
Unvote and don't again.
@Rhand, RE: Tom
I don't care his thoughts on me
I do his a Chris read
And all other reads
For that is where I catch him
Though he has town pings
Do you think that reads
On yourself, truly help you?
It's too close to home.
first time I ever
saw self-votes was.. from a Bur
is it common here?
sorting players out
some shirk due to the haiku
townread who braves through
not simple at all
looking for scum or a fault
attention matters
Be grateful, always."
Out of town all weekend and
Not much time to read.
Rhand you say
I am coasting, but
It's early?
left on a radiator
for several months
this is a breadcrumb
ive thought about it a lot
and ive decided
wont mean anything
for quite a long time i hope
but file it away
Yes you are coasting
It’s not like nothing happened
But enjoy weekend
When you’re back again
I want to see a reads list
And shadow / dawn views
Lurking in early game bad
I always do it
D_V voting self
Is he trying to appear
Too scum to be scum?
No pressure
First read on tom
Why vote self?
Also, you never
Responded to Rhand question
in seventy-three
Haiku obscuring
Majority of my reads
Neutral like the Swiss
from Haiku told to me now
For suspects today
I will say this though
Quick votes on D_V are sick
Scum unlikely there
Lay off D_V please
Scum wagons don't work like that
Vote off a voter!
##vote:Shadowlancerx
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Lest DV responds to me
Nothing can change this.
Tom can you tell me
Have you breadcrumbed in the past?
As what alignments?
I left them in my last post
I hope he answers
Odd to see Sir Chris
Coming to bat for D_V
Not scum-scum
Ling-grr-rrr
Lots of empty words
Where are reads?
Why ask Rodemy
About fishing for info
When you did the same
Vote: LnGrrrR
RVS vote still there.
Should probably remove.
Unvote
I've already answered (Rhand)
Not reading my posts?
Specific @ you
Because of Rhands quick townread
that sparked no questions.
Especially on
such flagrently weak reasons.
You just accepted.
Please remove self-vote.
It's messing with my wagon
Analysis cake.
Dammit Rhand.
Post one one zero
feels agenda-push.
I dislike this part.
Strong emotions... second chance?
Seems too quick I think?
with this chain of quotes
Linger lean.
Town and scum listings
Good time for.
Townies are DotA and Rod.
Tomsloger is leaning town.
No one else is though.
Scumreads will follow
LngrrR and Rhand leaning.
I think that is all.
Everyone else is null.
Nothing else to say in here.
Moose knuckle pie tin.
Chris probably right
About DV's wagon speed.
Self vote annoys me.
Still too early for most.
I think in time, reads cement.
Not really yet though.
That's likely a good look there
Genuine feeling
Dota I like here
Good catch about LNG
Hypocrites are scum
Not for sure granted
But haiku limits me there
I like the point made
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D_V (5): Psychatrog, tomsloger, Rodemy, D_V, shadowlancerx
shadowlancerx (3): Anaklusmos, Rhand, Sir Chris
Killjoy (1): LnGrrrR
LnGrrrR (1): DoTArchon
tomsloger (1): dawningbluesky
Not voting: Killjoy
Psychatrog
is off V/LA
as of now.
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The midnight of Wednesday,
December 13th.
when my role calls for me to
all there is to it
im down to unvote
but not sure where to put it
might insult DV...
Of lingerers little spout
Of hipocracy
I still don't like dee_vee
Last time people didnt hear
Me he got away
I will keep my vote
On him til he gives a good
Reply, bit we'll see
But i'm willing to
Go after lingerer...er
Pocket pickles poop
pretty words from lingererer
but nothing concrete
might be too early
but a fine place for pressure
i shall vote: linger
Suspicion for Lingerer.
But not many votes.
Agree with Tom.
Pressure welcome there.
World after work.
Vote LngrrR
a single vote does nothing
wagon to go for...
Vote: shadowlancerx
Be grateful, always."
Are like candles in the dark
Leading town astray
Unless you are scum
And have given up on life
Ask, ye shall receive
@Killjoy
DotA claims Miller
Then asks for their reasoning
Could go woe is me
Rhand, my point is that
It's early and feels weird to call
Me out for coast only.
What didn't you like about that?
Do you disagree?
I'm not sold on ling
Will watch and see what happens
Where has DV gone?
Dawn null or so slightly scum
If I have to read.
You make large read list
Of every player in game
But all can't be strong?
Just feels strange to
Call me out for that when
It applies to many
That he was just a miller
Without any twists
Did you read the rules?
There is parity between
The night and the day
I feel that asking
A claimed role for more details
Is a bit different
Asking to explain
Softclaims on the other hand
Looking for info
Sir Chris, a question
Why didn't you vote for me?
Seems very cautious
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
I don't know how i
Feel about this wagon vote
Without reasoning
Esspecially since you
Posted after doing this
This wonderful gem
Omg what have i done
Stupid d start names.
Never mind my bad
Dawningnsky's not dota, man
Carry on with life
To agree with Dota here
Give us reasoning
D_V (4): Psychatrog, Rodemy, D_V, shadowlancerx
shadowlancerx (4): Anaklusmos, Rhand, Sir Chris, dawningbluesky
LnGrrrR (3): DoTArchon, tomsloger, Killjoy
Killjoy (1): LnGrrrR
Not voting:
Lynch threshold this Day
is reached when a player has
Seven votes on them.
Day 1 deadline is
The midnight of Wednesday,
December 13th.
are on scumlords i wonder
surely one at most
I'll pocket gladly pocket you, but,
Why the townie lean?
Oh god not again
Flashbacks from low fantasy
Tom you do me fear
Interesting post you got
Let's duscuss caution
What is in a vote
That are not in my statement
To make you speak so?
I was quite clear
I liked the point against you
So I am confused
Weak question really
But to answer nonetheless.
I just like my vote
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Moving him up to null now
Still like Shadow lynch
Don't understand lngr
Would scum!him really breadcrumb
like he did early?
reason was present
a single vote or wagon?
scattered votes help none
I am not much help
if not by writing, then... vote
the least I can do
Be grateful, always."
But I think scum are voting
Somewhere on wagon.
Anak town reads me
But his RVS is there.
Hmm to the others.
Blues' vote was naked
Chris and Rhand are high class guys,
So are they both wrong?
Because otherwise
At least one of them is scum.
Maaaaybe pure wagon?