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though that may have to do with my impression of your game over how actually null they are

you are carefree as both alignments

what is null for you could be villagery or wolfy for another

Hello person reading this game, re-reading this game, or (oh god no) isoing me.

Trying to determine my alignment by reading my posts? Braver men and women than you have tried and failed.

But good luck good luck.

I'm sure this will go well for you.

That's an easter egg just for you, town try hards.

Ayn rand trying hard right now.

Yeah me is probably the correct answer

I'm just a kid having fun out there.

I'm just here so I don't get fined

Oh no you don't, Tom. I know what you're doing, and you can't have it.

It's mine.

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I'm just a kid having fun out there.

hi cory

tom and atpg talking to me but not each other

:stare:

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14/15 are essentially the same posts ive been making towards you and others, do you think I have been doing the same?

you're reading a lot into not very well reasoned posts with 34/35/41

I haven't seen anything in particular from t om that helps him stand out either way so i'm stuck here

Maybe I'm just placing too much trust in Tom. I'm not feeling the lynch on him yet though.

Your posts are a bit of a smorgasbord.

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i'm dying here

Is this an unintended admission that you can be lynched?

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osi has weird posts but some effort

Definitely been told this before.

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i need communication stat

I think a bunch of us are in the US, so it's 12-3 AM or so. Based on your activity timing in thread and appearance that English is your first language, I'd guess somewhere down under?

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No no no, just Tom. I was commenting on the undertitle and the fact that Tom has no shirt.

No biggie.

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I try really hard not to make comments that could be construed as flirting towards folks with female avatars or who might otherwise be female.

A) I'm married and
B) You won't know if it's a joke or not and women get enough harassment on the internet as it is.

Ok joke face back on.

Both good reasons.

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By end of day one everyone should try to come up with 3 guesses for the solve.

Umm... Wouldn't that basically just be your bottom 3 reads? Anything else seems -EV.

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The idea is that if wolves try to "bus" a partner by including them in the wolf pair with a townie, we might be able to figure that out.... somehow.

How? By making dichotomies? And how does this mesh with the plan of voting for 3 guesses? Or is it more complicated than that?

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Sorry I'm not operating on much sleep here so this is a half-formed thought from back before the game even randed. After I get serious sleep today I should be more lucid and able to explain it better.

Sleep is good.

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I'm going to interact with everyone in this game as much as possible, and I suck at day ones, so keep in mind while you're reading me the following things:

1) As scum, I talk to my partners a lot, convincingly, and I usually win as scum
2) I randed town, so it just looks like I'm doing that this game. I'm currently oblivious to who the scums are, and there is a 1:3 chance I'm talking to a scum directly this game and not knowing it. And I absolutely have to interact with everyone. So watch for false positives.
3) That's gonna make it hard to read me and easy to tinfoil on me.
4) You have to clear me individually the hard way, with correct solving. Otherwise you're gonna have a bad time this game.
5) Clearing me does not earn you a town read automatically.
6) If I am not the towniest town that ever towned, in terms of WIM, post count, post content, and thoughts that are real, I'm.... still town, actually.

I really don't care for it when people talk about their own metas this way… Shadow has done it a bunch before with "As scum I mess with votals," and it almost always seemed to me to be scummy, or at best like WIFOM that hits indiscriminately.

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If I can individually clear myself this game that's even better than finding a scum on day one.

o.O

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We have to work hard, and build trust and a whole town up from zero. I hope the rest of you folks are up for it.

I don't know if you're the fearless leader we've all been looking for, but we'll see…

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One last thing:

<…>

/Wall

Thanks for this. I appreciate it. Too often, and I am certainly also guilty of this, people forget that online games are just games. I have my own version on short, aggressive, emotional posts, that I may upgrade to reflect some of what you put here.

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Stuck in bathroom no towel pls send help.

I'm working on it, I'm workin on it.

I'm across the pond. Otherwise, though.

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I'm still not in analytics mode though, so most of these walls of content (from everyone) taste like cardboard to me right now.

Do you like the taste of cardboard?

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yeah there isn't anything in there

You sure? I need to go sleep shortly because it is an awful hour in the morning, but I wasn't clearing all of those as completely useless as of yet.

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Surprised you haven't said Pizza-Shadowwolf yet.

Am I on the same team as him?

Wouldn't that be Shadow Pizza?

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Description: An exception occurred while processing your request. Additionally, another exception occurred while executing the custom error page for the first exception. The request has been terminated.

Yeah, I think the site blooped at some point.

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Excellent. This won't make towning difficult at all!

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LolNorway.

But you have good fish.

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of note: i would not put it past atpg and t om to be blatant joking about scum buddies

thats not why im voting them so much rn but just a point to note

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tom and atpg talking to me but not each other

:stare:

Null and wolfy spam central with no progress. I'm fine being hard to read but outright sabotage that would be.

50 quote multiquotes kill me

I think a bunch of us are in the US, so it's 12-3 AM or so. Based on your activity timing in thread and appearance that English is your first language, I'd guess somewhere down under?

yep

i first read that as english not my first language and laughed, would've been a solid burn

Why would we talk to each other outside acumchat?
@rwso

Acumchat
Wtf phone how do you not know the word acumchat

****
Scumchat

kinky

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Why would we talk to each other outside acumchat?
@rwso

so it doesn't stick out?

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Umm... Wouldn't that basically just be your bottom 3 reads? Anything else seems -EV.

No, because we're talking pairs and we don't win unless we get the whole pair.

So if I have x and y as scummy, but consider z to also be scummy, my order can be lynch X and Y, then lynch X and Z, then lynch Y and Z, but that's only if I have absolutely no conditional reads and I have a lot of townies.

I'd imagine most people's reads lists will be more complicated than that, with some idea of if it's not this x and y team, it might actually be a and b.

But as this is new ground, I don't know if I have an actual strategy yet.

How? By making dichotomies? And how does this mesh with the plan of voting for 3 guesses? Or is it more complicated than that?

Yea,
Heck if I know yet,
and yea.

game seems PRETTY HARD for us villagers

basically gotta hope wolves make bad nks and then get things exactly right at mylo

no lynch information makes me cry

guess this game is all about those not w/w interactions

can't wait to die

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Acumchat
Wtf phone how do you not know the word acumchat

Learning more and more about how Tom's mustache got that silky, day by day...

Oh god the hair too

I was so distracted by the mustache I didn't even see it

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****
Scumchat

Yeah. reddboiler doesn't even use one and we did fine.

I imagine tom-pizza scumchat for this game would look like:

"Having fun?"
-"Yep"
3 days later
"Kill rand?"
-"sounds good".

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game seems PRETTY HARD for us villagers

basically gotta hope wolves make bad nks and then get things exactly right at mylo

Yeah this is bullet hell for mafia games.

Only the strongest and the best town will survive. For ultimate glory.

This ain't night chess with a cop, a mason team, a town-town lover pair, a vig, a doc, and another fake cop that we also know is in the setup and the setup is open.

Gotta break out the goat pants.

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****

Good night Tom.

Hi I'm off work.
Styx/reo speedwagon
It was weird.

I am nodding off to sleep.

We'll see if I can maintain my sense of humor when I wake up.

Currently taking applications for "not shadows buddy"

I got a real problem. I have no townies yet and I'm wolfy.

It will get better when Toga starts the toga party and Ghosting stops ghosting.

I kinda need all the townies to be present an accounted for in this setup. It's too easy for mustache and randy marsh to be comfortably null when there's not a whole lot else happening.

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While I agree with you that people need to be more active (really just at least present) how exactly is that going to make you less wolfy except by comparison?

What if...
Something about being utterly immune to the lynch is making me feel kind of liberated about the whole "looking town" aspect of my game.

Not like it ever matters anyway.

oh right we have to decide if we want to accept pizza's derpclear

Ok I had a look, and I'm gonna say he's straight but not interested in me.

"cumchat" comment seemed like an actual typo, much to my dismay.

A mafia-game-love unrequited. Maybe I'm just hideous, being Bill Belichick.

Or, intimidating.

I'm not going to let rejection keep me down. I'm a sith lord, the most powerful in the galaxy, and a five time super bowl champion. I'm intelligent, I can summon dark-side energy out of thin air, and I have connections up the wazoo.

Did you know I've even blown up planets? I blow up planets, baby.

Is that what you're on about? Who even writes that.

They go back and they check the rules if they don't know, then they hit backspace until the sentence vanishes.

Seems wolfy to me.

im going with "genuinely didnt know how the game worked" but i doubt that that could only come from townpizza

That, ladies and gentlemen, is what they call "bad acting".

13 percent on rotten tomatoes bad.

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Is that what you're on about? Who even writes that.

They go back and they check the rules if they don't know, then they hit backspace until the sentence vanishes.

Seems wolfy to me.

i think im just hyperaware because ive been looking for good chances to derpclear myself since i became a competent player
sort of did it once in three little pigs as scum and once in a witchhunt as town

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i think im just hyperaware because ive been looking for good chances to derpclear myself since i became a competent player
sort of did it once in three little pigs as scum and once in a witchhunt as town

Who told you that's how derp clears happen?

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im going with "genuinely didnt know how the game worked" but i doubt that that could only come from townpizza

If you aren't even getting a lean off of it then I don't see the point of talking about it.

At least my spam is funny.

umm. every game ever where someone derpclears and people debate whether its faked

oh no pointlessness tell
tom lock scum

Just seems suboptimal as a strategy when the meta is that faking it happens every game.

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Osie is...honestly do you have a mode other than flail?

I'm guessing that was rhetorical, but all the same...



Why is RandWolf town? Just because he's also a wolf?

Let's talk about how I'm a wolf because I'm using gifs when I don't normally use gifs and using gifs is a thing on here.

I think that theory has a lot of weight. Why'd I suddenly get all giffy?

Giffy pizza is iffy pizza.