2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Tl;dr- Seppel is closing off his only path to victory and is probably town for it.
how so?
i see him widening the lynchpool pre eco flip
which, to be fair, is what i am doing too
and, like, even as im doing i realize its what i would need to do as scum. at least to some extent.
like, whats the poe if eco's lynch doesnt end it?
seppel/me/nacho/you?
seppel's avenue to victory would be for the other three to get lynched before him
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Nacho: There's not of interaction with Cyan/GJ. That's kind of understandable because there was a pretty long period where there wasn't anyone in the slot. Worth noting is that GJ frequently listed Mal as a third scum on D1 (#130, #250 for example), basically just calling out lurking. GJ is unlikely to do that to a buddy when it would be so easy to say "he's just absent, null read": it reads a lot like he's keeping hooks in a soft target, not distancing. Then in #789, GJ magically calls Nacho's slot town immediately after Nacho voted Cyan. That's textbook appeasement there, not buddy play. I also think that come #1138 Nacho is really unlikely to put Cyan right at the bottom of his scum list. It would take a lot of balls to come right into D2 and sent your only remaining buddy up the river, and while I don't really know how that might fit into Nacho's wheelhouse, I don't think he's deep enough in the Town circle to risk getting away with that. The better plan would probably have been "lynch Eco, make Cyan post more".
And when Nacho replaced in, GJ and Cyan were the competing wagons and he was just like "let's lynch the scum" and then he voted me with zero reasoning.
Eco > Tom > Seppel (Volunteering myself at that point because I would be totally bamboozled in the endgame and I wouldn't want the loss to be my fault)
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Ah yes, the four mana 7/7 that has been constantly memed about in the /r/hearthstone subreddit. Drop this bad boy on turn four (or, if you're lucky, turn three with the coin) and your opponents can't deal with this grossly oversized minion now that Big Game Hunter got nerfed to heck. Perfect for clearing anything your opponents play or simply just SMORCing face - the four mana 7/7 clearly trumps anything on the board.
(Just hope it doesn't get Sapped, or Hexed, or, if you're particularly unlucky, Shadow Word: Death'd)
You also know that Argent Squire is not in the game.. because you popped her Divine Shield and crushed her with your 7/7 body.
I'll have a few more thoughts about this game that I'll post later tonight, but I felt it was extremely mediocre and I'm just wondering if there was anything I could have done to make this game less flaccid.
Oh yeah and Iso literally solved the game in the first 100 posts. Congrats to him.
@Proph: I dunno, maybe add a noir edge to the flavor? I thought it was fine. (And on that note, thanks for hosting!) It probably felt "flaccid" to you because it was such a curbstomp game in the town's favor. We just sorta...rolled the scumteam.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Just kidding, it happens, I am just glad I didn't impede.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
GG, Iso you did play really well. As Newcomb said, you just need to spend more time explaining why your narrative is more likely correct than other possibilities.
I have to say, my scumbuddies totally dropped the ball. I put an awful lot of effort into getting out of the D1 lynch, and they just let themselves sink to the bottom of PoE in the meantime. I got caught in my first post and they still got lynched before me!
This game would have been over faster if Iso had put more effort into convincing us instead of saying he was right all the time, which just made me want to delay the game as long as possible. I didn't really ever have a scumread on Iso. I just wanted the last scum to not be Eco, despite having caught him in the first post of the game.
@Eco: From my perspective, not only was there a huge wagon on you in the first page, but GJ made it painfully obvious that he was your scumbuddy..also within the first page. And someone noticed. I came in to read the thread and realize that 2 of my teammembers were probably dead. It was extremely disheartening. I didn't want to just go along with your lynch, because that would ultimately just lead to GJ getting lynched too, and how was I going to win the game from there. :/
Also Iso don't you ever try and use your goddamn trust tell ever again. It's pretty much cheating, and that's not ok.
Mm hmm. I don't know for sure whether or not there was a consensus that trust tells were forbidden prior to this game under the out of game promises rule, but there should be.
(I'll talk to you when I have the chance to do so, Eco.)
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Tl;dr- Seppel is closing off his only path to victory and is probably town for it.
Vote: Eco
i see him widening the lynchpool pre eco flip
which, to be fair, is what i am doing too
and, like, even as im doing i realize its what i would need to do as scum. at least to some extent.
like, whats the poe if eco's lynch doesnt end it?
seppel/me/nacho/you?
seppel's avenue to victory would be for the other three to get lynched before him
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Seppel is removing me as a mislynch option with his pivot - don't think that is a route he takes as scum.
It's probably just Eco, and this game was bleh.
Can you quote why Nacho is strongly town?
And when Nacho replaced in, GJ and Cyan were the competing wagons and he was just like "let's lynch the scum" and then he voted me with zero reasoning.
Pretty ballsy move if he were the third scum.
I'm town. Chris is town. Iso and Vaimes are almost definitely town.
Eco >> Nacho = Tom >> Seppel for the rest. But I think Eco just ends it. Gg. Ish.
Everyone else is off the table.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'll remove the ecophant from the room.
But if the game keeps going, I'm going hard on seppel
vote eco
My hero.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Did we chain-lynch the scumteam?
Can we party now?
[6] Ecophagy - Iso, Vaimes, Nachomamma8, Seppel, Voxxicus, tomsloger
[1] tomsloger - Ecophagy
Not Voting: Sir Chris
That is a lynch.
I'll post lynch scene soon.
please dont open spoiler if game continues
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Ecophagy was:
Flamewreathed Faceless - Mafia Goon
"He's on fire! Boomshakalaka!"
Ah yes, the four mana 7/7 that has been constantly memed about in the /r/hearthstone subreddit. Drop this bad boy on turn four (or, if you're lucky, turn three with the coin) and your opponents can't deal with this grossly oversized minion now that Big Game Hunter got nerfed to heck. Perfect for clearing anything your opponents play or simply just SMORCing face - the four mana 7/7 clearly trumps anything on the board.
(Just hope it doesn't get Sapped, or Hexed, or, if you're particularly unlucky, Shadow Word: Death'd)
You also know that Argent Squire is not in the game.. because you popped her Divine Shield and crushed her with your 7/7 body.
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I'll have a few more thoughts about this game that I'll post later tonight, but I felt it was extremely mediocre and I'm just wondering if there was anything I could have done to make this game less flaccid.
Oh yeah and Iso literally solved the game in the first 100 posts. Congrats to him.
@Proph: I dunno, maybe add a noir edge to the flavor? I thought it was fine. (And on that note, thanks for hosting!) It probably felt "flaccid" to you because it was such a curbstomp game in the town's favor. We just sorta...rolled the scumteam.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I guess the first half of Day 1 was kinda fun.
Sorry for ruining Christmas, everyone.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
On the one hand, you solving the game on page one is pretty ******* amazing.
On the other hand, it felt more like watching a PowerPoint presentation than playing a game.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Well, back to retirement for Chris.
Just kidding, it happens, I am just glad I didn't impede.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
Thank you!
We were glad to have you back.
That goes to you, too, Cyan.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I have to say, my scumbuddies totally dropped the ball. I put an awful lot of effort into getting out of the D1 lynch, and they just let themselves sink to the bottom of PoE in the meantime. I got caught in my first post and they still got lynched before me!
Chris you were supposed to white knight me
This game would have been over faster if Iso had put more effort into convincing us instead of saying he was right all the time, which just made me want to delay the game as long as possible. I didn't really ever have a scumread on Iso. I just wanted the last scum to not be Eco, despite having caught him in the first post of the game.
Eco main wagon by l-2, cyan afk while this is happening. Iso instead of taking the high road decided to angle shoot.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Mm hmm. I don't know for sure whether or not there was a consensus that trust tells were forbidden prior to this game under the out of game promises rule, but there should be.
Good reads, but poor sportsmanship.