Read Silver's big post. Actually read it without the bias you're holding.
Because even WITH my bias, I ended up townreading him because of it. I don't think it's a scumpost. I just don't. And if it is, that kind of play is not at all my cup of tea and I'll probably just avoid playing with Silver again.
tom is happy to just "lolscum" at anything Silver posts when we NEED to think, and that is setting off alarms. Rod is throwing shade at too many people.
Hi Zenzao, please read my posts while using your brain.
I have been. And you've been defending me too hard, you were absent on the D2 DayEnd wagon, you've been waffling and appealed toward obtaining town credit for not hammering at once yesterDay, you were pushing shadow/Silver hard prior to the scum flip and then began to roll back toDay in order to follow in shadow's footsteps, and you've drunk the kool-aid. Never drink the kool-aid, Jon Snow.
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tom is happy to just "lolscum" at anything Silver posts when we NEED to think, and that is setting off alarms. Rod is throwing shade at too many people.
"need to think"
yolo changes read and snap votes based on one post
I am VT so we can get that over with. Morrigan is the name, a gou’ald that favors a crow motif and allows female Jaffas to be infantrymen. Yadda yadda yadda.
I am not going to go easily into the night. This is a poor mislynch and I have no desire to let you all get away with it that easily. Let’s go down the list here.
Iso, you know better. I have been a believer of your towniness all game, but in one stroke you crush that. You know better than to call me scum in this instance. You know better than to off me day one when I am not hiding in my bubble. Do you have ANYTHING that you would like me to refute? Because, I refuse to be the apathy lynch today. I am so ******* angry about this, it isn’t funny. To everyone else, when Iso starts going against SOUND LOGIC in order to preserve himself, you know he is scum. If you begin to see this later, kill it with fire.
Cyan, Play better. Someday, soon, please, play better. You really have forgotten how to town. Who have you NOT voted for in this long slog of a day? They are MOST likely the scum team. I can’t believe how freaking terrible you can be as town. It’s no wonder that Sir Chris is better than you in just about every regard. At least he is consistently Chris across both aspects of his game. At some point I hope we just policy lynch you to put you out of your misery. You want to know why you aren’t good at town anymore? It really boils down to this: YOU DO NOT THINK CRITICALLY ABOUT THE GAME. You hop from person to another, using poor mafia theory tells to drive your thought process, and eventually get fed up when it doesn’t work out in your favor. For you to be the Cyan of old, you need to follow your gut a little more, instead of relying on Meta tells, and other often useless theory tells. You need to put yourself in the other person’s shoes a bit and think about the thought process behind what they are doing. You stopped doing that somewhere along the line, and now, the result is that you say things like “scum would never do that.” Well, maybe stupid scum would! Just, all I am asking Cyan, is for you to THINK through a few of these actions.
Tapping was scum read by a HUGE portion of the game. To try and fault Cyan or I for his flip is stupid. Pengo, get off my dick about “how he didn’t mention TS after the flip.” Guy was dead, we were wrong, nothing more to say on that. Matter of fact, if he was still alive now I can guarantee I would be pushing for his death. Tapping always reads like arrogant scum, a trait he learned from Chris if I had to guess. Now, the fact that this is your only *****ty piece of “HUNT’S SCUM” just proves you are trying to see what will stick against me. Good luck, and well done scum. You found THE OTHER most mislynched player on this site aside from Hans.
Back to Sir Chris for a second. We all have what we believe are “Chris Tells” to decide the difference between his scum game and his town game. I personally believe that if he talks about himself more than he talks about the game, he is scum. It really is just a personal belief. Be wary of him this game, there are some serious shenanigans at play.
NotVoxx, I believe, is the most obvious scum stirring my wagon. He has contributed jack ***** to the end of this long haul of day aside from vague complaints that I am scum. Give me something to talk about NotVoxx. Why am I scum?
Gentleman Johnny, you asked why you are being scum read? I don’t see the usual GJ “put myself in the others shoes” mentality that I usually see from you. Since you have replaced in, your posts have sounded more like a whine than anything else. If feels as though you were pissed to be replaced into a scum slot. Your posts are just not resonating with me.
Be afraid of Bur too. I didn’t like Atog, and I definitely don’t trust Bur. When Bur starts asking questions that go nowhere, it’s because he’s scum.
I understand everyone is apathetic about the long day, the fact that we have had wagons on just about EVERYONE it feels, and we are now approaching deadline. But PLEASE, read my sig, the quote from Jobie, if you ALL want me dead, stop and think about this a second. I am not entirely great at the start of games. I always get run up and sometimes I get killed. The only times it has resulted in the correct lynch was when I was hiding like a little *****. I am not hiding, I am ready to take you all on, and belittle you for making an AWFUL mistake. As the game goes on, you need townies like me. I have a critical mind for the game, I am able to put aside my chuckle**** personality in Mafia to get down to business, and I have good reads once the information starts flowing. Keep me around for this game. It will pay off.
I was mixed up between NotVoxx and Vaimes earlier because of phone posting. I have been sheeping my town block these last few pages. I believed that Tapping was scum, and he turned out to be not. None of that is coming from a scum mindet.
Since the game is SO long, and we are getting down to the nitty gritty, and we have had wagons on just about everyone, the MOST LOGICAL LYNCH today would be to kill Seppel. Seppel is a claimed neutral who has decided that NOT DOING ANYTHING is his best play. Ambassadors aside, Seppel should die today. At least we will be able to keep around town and get rid of an actual NON-TOWN member.
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Cyan
Vaimes
7hawk77
CitricBase
Tordeck
tomsloger
LEAN TOWN
Plowshares
Rhand
Nachomamma8
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Seppel
LEAN SCUM
Iso
Sir Chris
hansanator
Jobie
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Bur
Gentleman Johnny
prowlingpengolin
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If I'm wrong, that's too bad and I'll regret it. But I feel right about this in the same way I felt right to go after Fonti and Newcomb in Mimefia and Jarizok and miner in HPM.
Please explain how you think Vaimes busses me and shadow all of D1 and D2, lets us kill everyone town reading us, then waffles on us hard on D3 instead of turbo-bussing-engaged like tom and rodemy did on shadow. Thanks.
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Hi Zenzao, please read my posts while using your brain.
I have been. And you've been defending me too hard, you were absent on the D2 DayEnd wagon, you've been waffling and appealed toward obtaining town credit for not hammering at once yesterDay, you were pushing shadow/Silver hard prior to the scum flip and then began to roll back toDay in order to follow in shadow's footsteps, and you've drunk the kool-aid. Never drink the kool-aid, Jon Snow.
Yeah, well, you were doing a pretty *****ty job of defending yourself by lashing out at everyone, so sorry for trying to stop you from getting lynched!
Jesus.
All the rest of that stuff, I don't really care. I'm town, and I was wrong for tunneling Silver. ******* fight me on it.
Zenzao, you need to stop making references to other games and other players like that. Literally nobody here has any idea what you're talking about. Even /I/ don't, because you don't play that often and I don't remember all of my games.
If you're going to cite offsite sources, you need to use your words.
I linked all my games a page or two back, **** 'em if they can't bother to run a brief search for the relevant info, and if you're going to claim to not remember the one ******* scum game I had after citing it all this game as why you knew my scum meta, you can tighten that rope around your neck a little further, Vaimes.
Why do you care if I defended myself well or not? As I said previously, so I'd be there to town-side you in late-game. Unfortunately you've been off as the game progressed. Striking a few too many 'huh' chords with me.
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We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
Eh, the stress isn't worth it. Might as well hammer now rather than later and we can either be done for good or move on to Night. I can't imagine shadow will say anything mind-blowing that'll change my mind.
Everyone not voting shadow cannot be scum with 2 people on the wagon so shadow is probably just scum.
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I'd say gg tom/Zenzao/Rod team, but from the way Rod egged on Zenzao a couple times idk if I can see them being buddies.
Reading offsite games is very time-consuming. Especially when the search feature sucks and you have to click on EVERY SINGLE post to see the contents in its entirety.
I only remember the COMMENTS made about that game after the fact. The game happened YEARS ago. And you barely play anymore. I have more relevant things to remember these days than your exact scum playstyle.
I cared about you defending myself because we're vaguely friends and I didn't want you to replace into a game on a new site (after being INVITED by Voxx) with an unfamiliar player base and get policy lynched for being snappy, defensive, and rude. Next time I guess I'll just let you rope yourself, if that's what you're asking for.
I have no idea how you can read my posts and think I'm scum. I literally can't. I think you're just too fixated on how I play on DLP, when how I play here is INCREDIBLY different. font could have told you that, Voxx could have told you that, Newcomb could have told you that. You're being a hypocrite right now, since I linked SEVERAL of my MTGS games for you to see how I play here as all alignments. Bet you didn't even so much as click one of the links.
Your meta on me is very much outdated and you need to read me based on my content in this game, not compared to Snowvon.
My weakness in being scum is maintaining enthusiasm over the course of the entire game, as well as faking scumreads on townies.
But I'm not a ******* moron, like you're implying.
"Vaimes is scum and decided to waffle on his doomed scumbuddy instead of bussing him into oblivion and hammering the first townie to reach L-1 the next Day because ______."
It ain't meta reading you Vaimes. I've never been able to judge you on DLP with any surety. I was putting faith in you in this game when I replaced in as the only one who knew me and at the time I appreciated your early defense of me, but as this game has gone on I've felt in my gut that you're feigning and mixing in truth to suit your purpose.
And yes, call me a hypocrite, I did not open any of the games you linked to even do a brief ctrl+f and search through your behavior on this site. Maybe if I did I'd change my mind. But I don't think so at this junction.
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We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
My weakness in being scum is maintaining enthusiasm over the course of the entire game, as well as faking scumreads on townies.
But I'm not a ******* moron, like you're implying.
"Vaimes is scum and decided to waffle on his doomed scumbuddy instead of bussing him into oblivion and hammering the first townie to reach L-1 the next Day because ______."
What goes in the blank, Zen?
While I'd agree that that sounds familiar to Narutomafia on DLP, haven't you just said you play differently here? And as has been brought up re-myself by Silver IIRC, what says you can't change up your tactics on the other side of the fence?
Until the shadow flip, scum had this game in the bag. The Doctor was outed. The Vig was dead without ever once firing. Myslynches through to that point. And then shadow was finally voted instead of steering the wagon onto Tom and GameEnding things, and suddenly you and Silver have to scramble to salvage what was an easy victory. Your quote is also ***** because Silver isn't town.
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We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
Then don't ***** on other people for not reading your vague meta tangents.
Thanks.
When its the only ******* thing you have to source on my scum meta I'm going to keep riding that particular 3:10 to Yuma.
Silver's big post is a last hurrah ala WitchHunt3 Mathblade to drown us all in wine. Digging through it piece by piece to disassemble and analyze any deeper is a process I'm not going to be sinking any effort into right now when I have to be up inside of seven hours. Re-reading this entire game for just that purpose as I'd intended when I was posting yesterday evening before going to bed is too much for my plate.
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We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
My weakness in being scum is maintaining enthusiasm over the course of the entire game, as well as faking scumreads on townies.
But I'm not a ******* moron, like you're implying.
"Vaimes is scum and decided to waffle on his doomed scumbuddy instead of bussing him into oblivion and hammering the first townie to reach L-1 the next Day because ______."
What goes in the blank, Zen?
While I'd agree that that sounds familiar to Narutomafia on DLP, haven't you just said you play differently here? And as has been brought up re-myself by Silver IIRC, what says you can't change up your tactics on the other side of the fence?
Until the shadow flip, scum had this game in the bag. The Doctor was outed. The Vig was dead without ever once firing. Myslynches through to that point. And then shadow was finally voted instead of steering the wagon onto Tom and GameEnding things, and suddenly you and Silver have to scramble to salvage what was an easy victory. Your quote is also ***** because Silver isn't town.
HI ZENZAO BUSSING SHADOW WOULD HAVE ASSURED /ME/ VICTORY BECAUSE IF I LYNCH /BOTH/ OF MY BUDDIES THEN I AM VERY LIKELY NOT GOING TO GET LYNCHED IN MYLO AND I CAN WIN THE GAME
The goal as scum is NOT to win with your entire team alive. It is to win. And if I'm scum, and shadow and Silver are my buddies, and I bussed them completely, then I would win this game. Full stop.
Yeah, I play differently, but again, doing what YOU'RE saying I'd do as scum is flat-out stupid and not at all worth the wine.
Like you're trying to say that I bussed my buddies and then completely ruined any and all towncred by NOT immediately hammering them...for what? What on earth does scum!Vaimes get out of that? Wine??? Is that it? Seriously?
I'd rather WIN THE GAME than try and pull a sloppy fast one.
At this moment Vaimes I don't have the time to invest in countering you, and the longer we go on you aren't convincing me off of my initial feeling to act and vote for Silver and believe you and him are the last scum. If I have the chance today I'll get back to you and we can pick this up then, but @Eco if you are so inclined during that off-time, hammer Silver instead of waiting for me please.
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Even if Eco wants to save me instead of lynching me, he can't without convincing you first.
Because if I'm right about the scum team, they can force a no lynch by keeping the votes tied.
Then they kill Eco and you + them lynch me tomorrow.
I need you to step back, reread, think about tom and rodemy's interactions, read my post (please), and not rush the lynch.
We have two weeks.
I would also appreciate it if you didn't compare me to other players. I'm not Mathblade or Titus or anyone else from DLP and pushing cases on me based on other people's meta isn't going to get you very far. Thanks.
How exciting, I don't think I've even been in this sort of position before. You guys are lucky I've got this week off work so I can devote time to the game.
@Silver: quick question: in your world of Rod/Tom/Shadow, can you explain why at the end of D1, both Rod AND Tom were voting for Shadow. If they're all buddies, why wouldn't they have moved to a townie during the CFD?
Or I guess Silver could be scum and one of his buddies is already voting, but that still means it's one of tom or Rod.
But I do not think Silver is scum anymore.
VAIMES.
Fencing like a pro.
If silver is your buddy, you are doing a damn good job at saving him.
A sudden change of heart on your biggest scum read, sounds too perfect.
This whole situation sounds too.. planned.
Silver up for lynch and vaimes is suddenly not inclined to lynch him?
Silvet makes a woe is me post and vaimes buys it.. but is still fency.
Like i get it. Waffling can be towny late game, but honestly he was waffley as **** yesterDay and i pointed that out and toDay silver is calling him town for it.
Can we please remember how adement silver was on not lynching shadow?
Saying i knew shadow was gonna flip scum. Of course i did. I called it d1. Its called gut.
I used huntz argument to make my own. I wasnt using JUST huntz argument as my own.
Did you not catch my "if you knew it was a test, why would you react in a way that was scummy?" All original rodemy logic (TM)
reading vaimes ademantly make excuses up to save you (very aggressively btw) just makes me. I would love to hammer silver, if that is okay with the rest of town.
@Silver: quick question: in your world of Rod/Tom/Shadow, can you explain why at the end of D1, both Rod AND Tom were voting for Shadow. If they're all buddies, why wouldn't they have moved to a townie during the CFD?
Tom kind of painted himself into a corner by defending both counterwagons, though he did say he was going to hammer AG right before Mete0r actually did it to prevent a no-lynch. Rodemy had already waffled hard on shadow once and when I did the town!case on him I said I would have buried someone that wasn't him for it so he probably didn't want to attract attention by being part of the CFD.
Plus I'm pretty sure they had day chat and really wanted shadow dead so they could lynch me then push Mindreaver and only need one more mislynch. By that point they were already committed to the bus and they didn't really need to move off of their buddy to get the town lynch because I pushed Shockwave, almost got him lynched, then led the CFD to AG. So I did most of the work for them.
And tom knows I like VCA and might have straight up dismissed them as buddies based on them voting together. Worked for him in the cross-over game anyway.
You don't have hammer rights. Those belong to Eco.
You just want to be off wagon so you can bus if it comes to that or drop the quick hammer if Eco votes me.
You don't have hammer rights. Those belong to Eco.
You just want to be off wagon so you can bus if it comes to that or drop the quick hammer if Eco votes me.
._. Jeeze. ScumMe must be so dumb.
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What fits better though, the most boneheaded play possible or tom/rodemy/shadow deciding shadow was unsaveable when Huntz caught the scent on D1 and then turning it into a benefit by tying him to me to get a mislynch from it?
What fits better though, the most boneheaded play possible or tom/rodemy/shadow deciding shadow was unsaveable when Huntz caught the scent on D1 and then turning it into a benefit by tying him to me to get a mislynch from it?
Well if you put it that way... sike.
You are dismissing my scumread and it is literally frustrating me. You are adding paranoia of a scum daychat.
Jeeze, now i know why i made it this far.
I am a perfect mislynch w tom.
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Why is it that as soon as I vote for Silver, Vaimes immediately votes for Tom? Why is it that Silver, who has professed to take his own self survival more importantly D1 despite being neither Vig nor Doc, would not even entertain the notion of voting Vaimes here with his head on the guillotine?
Yet that Rod unvote. What in the hell? Shadow/Silver/Rod? Shadow/Vaimes/Rod? Shadow/Silver/Vaimes?
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We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
Why is it that as soon as I vote for Silver, Vaimes immediately votes for Tom?
Because Vaimes thinks I am town and you put me at L-1?
Why is it that Silver, who has professed to take his own self survival more importantly D1 despite being neither Vig nor Doc, would not even entertain the notion of voting Vaimes here with his head on the guillotine?
Because this isn't D1. It's lylo and I think Vaimes is town. If Rod/Tom is the scum team they can quick hammer him. While we have mislynches my survival is more important. Once we have no mislynches I have to try to make sure no one I think is town is mislynched, period. Voting Vaimes with you when I think he is town in lylo is literally game throwing unless I'm sure you're scum.
Yet that Rod unvote. What in the hell? Shadow/Silver/Rod? Shadow/Vaimes/Rod? Shadow/Silver/Vaimes?
shadow/Rod/tom?
Actually. Why isn't tom on any of your potential teams there? Why is rod more likely scum with any of us than him?
The point I'm making is that Vaimes' vote then does nothing. Tom, Rod, and I are already on you. The power resides in Eco's hands, and Eco has also professed to waiting and drawing discussion out rather than hammering. So why does Vaimes vote at that point at all other than to be shown having a vote down(since he failed this D2)? It was a panic vote since he never expected me to turn up and vote you then when I'd said I was likely to sleep the night away and requested no lynch while I was out, and if he's hanging back not-voting at that point when the only other player not-voting is Eco, it makes him look even worse for not hammering you when we do finally lynch you toDay and you flip scum. Everything that Vaimes has done lately has just made him come off worse in my eyes and I am willing to bank the game on this. If I'm wrong, then that's a hard lesson learned, but I don't know most of you from a hole in the wall, and all I can trust is my instinct. I've let other players sway me D1 and D2, it isn't happening toDay.
Yet again I ask however why you are such a national treasure for this game early on? You should just be vanilla town. And you've done a *****-all job of keeping town alive. So no, your survival was never more important unless you were scum.
And if you're going to fling the "I think Vaimes is town" excuse in my face for why you wouldn't vote him, I'm going to turn it back around and tell you the same for why I'm not including him in a potential scumworld.
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We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
Rod is more likely scum over Tom because of his sudden backing out of your lynch when you were put at L-1.
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Read Silver's big post. Actually read it without the bias you're holding.
Because even WITH my bias, I ended up townreading him because of it. I don't think it's a scumpost. I just don't. And if it is, that kind of play is not at all my cup of tea and I'll probably just avoid playing with Silver again.
tom is happy to just "lolscum" at anything Silver posts when we NEED to think, and that is setting off alarms. Rod is throwing shade at too many people.
I have been. And you've been defending me too hard, you were absent on the D2 DayEnd wagon, you've been waffling and appealed toward obtaining town credit for not hammering at once yesterDay, you were pushing shadow/Silver hard prior to the scum flip and then began to roll back toDay in order to follow in shadow's footsteps, and you've drunk the kool-aid. Never drink the kool-aid,
JonSnow.yolo changes read and snap votes based on one post
sure
that checks out
Bat2 Titus v Zen.
Jesus.
All the rest of that stuff, I don't really care. I'm town, and I was wrong for tunneling Silver. ******* fight me on it.
If you're going to cite offsite sources, you need to use your words.
Why do you care if I defended myself well or not? As I said previously, so I'd be there to town-side you in late-game. Unfortunately you've been off as the game progressed. Striking a few too many 'huh' chords with me.
I only remember the COMMENTS made about that game after the fact. The game happened YEARS ago. And you barely play anymore. I have more relevant things to remember these days than your exact scum playstyle.
I cared about you defending myself because we're vaguely friends and I didn't want you to replace into a game on a new site (after being INVITED by Voxx) with an unfamiliar player base and get policy lynched for being snappy, defensive, and rude. Next time I guess I'll just let you rope yourself, if that's what you're asking for.
I have no idea how you can read my posts and think I'm scum. I literally can't. I think you're just too fixated on how I play on DLP, when how I play here is INCREDIBLY different. font could have told you that, Voxx could have told you that, Newcomb could have told you that. You're being a hypocrite right now, since I linked SEVERAL of my MTGS games for you to see how I play here as all alignments. Bet you didn't even so much as click one of the links.
Your meta on me is very much outdated and you need to read me based on my content in this game, not compared to Snowvon.
you defending yourself*
But I'm not a ******* moron, like you're implying.
"Vaimes is scum and decided to waffle on his doomed scumbuddy instead of bussing him into oblivion and hammering the first townie to reach L-1 the next Day because ______."
What goes in the blank, Zen?
And yes, call me a hypocrite, I did not open any of the games you linked to even do a brief ctrl+f and search through your behavior on this site. Maybe if I did I'd change my mind. But I don't think so at this junction.
Thanks.
Because that is a thought process I absolutely need to see from you. tom won't budge. Rod won't budge. It's just you and Eco.
While I'd agree that that sounds familiar to Narutomafia on DLP, haven't you just said you play differently here? And as has been brought up re-myself by Silver IIRC, what says you can't change up your tactics on the other side of the fence?
Until the shadow flip, scum had this game in the bag. The Doctor was outed. The Vig was dead without ever once firing. Myslynches through to that point. And then shadow was finally voted instead of steering the wagon onto Tom and GameEnding things, and suddenly you and Silver have to scramble to salvage what was an easy victory. Your quote is also ***** because Silver isn't town.
When its the only ******* thing you have to source on my scum meta I'm going to keep riding that particular 3:10 to Yuma.
Silver's big post is a last hurrah ala WitchHunt3 Mathblade to drown us all in wine. Digging through it piece by piece to disassemble and analyze any deeper is a process I'm not going to be sinking any effort into right now when I have to be up inside of seven hours. Re-reading this entire game for just that purpose as I'd intended when I was posting yesterday evening before going to bed is too much for my plate.
The goal as scum is NOT to win with your entire team alive. It is to win. And if I'm scum, and shadow and Silver are my buddies, and I bussed them completely, then I would win this game. Full stop.
Yeah, I play differently, but again, doing what YOU'RE saying I'd do as scum is flat-out stupid and not at all worth the wine.
Deciding someone is scum and not reevaluating is how we lose.
Like, god forbid we be WRONG on someone, right?
I'd rather WIN THE GAME than try and pull a sloppy fast one.
Because if I'm right about the scum team, they can force a no lynch by keeping the votes tied.
Then they kill Eco and you + them lynch me tomorrow.
I need you to step back, reread, think about tom and rodemy's interactions, read my post (please), and not rush the lynch.
We have two weeks.
I would also appreciate it if you didn't compare me to other players. I'm not Mathblade or Titus or anyone else from DLP and pushing cases on me based on other people's meta isn't going to get you very far. Thanks.
The Family
@Silver: quick question: in your world of Rod/Tom/Shadow, can you explain why at the end of D1, both Rod AND Tom were voting for Shadow. If they're all buddies, why wouldn't they have moved to a townie during the CFD?
unvote
Im gonna need a day to read all this.
I feel like ***** went south since i last posted.
Probably won't talk to Zenzao until postgame since he flat-out admitted he doesn't want to change his mind.
Eco is confirmed to be town OR Silver's last buddy.
He is not Silver's last buddy. Any mafia with with bricks for brains would happily toss scum!Silver over a cliff here.
Eco is town. I am town. Both mafia are voting for Silver. We will not be lynching Silver toDay.
But I do not think Silver is scum anymore.
VAIMES.
Fencing like a pro.
If silver is your buddy, you are doing a damn good job at saving him.
A sudden change of heart on your biggest scum read, sounds too perfect.
This whole situation sounds too.. planned.
Silver up for lynch and vaimes is suddenly not inclined to lynch him?
Silvet makes a woe is me post and vaimes buys it.. but is still fency.
Like i get it. Waffling can be towny late game, but honestly he was waffley as **** yesterDay and i pointed that out and toDay silver is calling him town for it.
Can we please remember how adement silver was on not lynching shadow?
Saying i knew shadow was gonna flip scum. Of course i did. I called it d1. Its called gut.
I used huntz argument to make my own. I wasnt using JUST huntz argument as my own.
Did you not catch my "if you knew it was a test, why would you react in a way that was scummy?" All original rodemy logic (TM)
reading vaimes ademantly make excuses up to save you (very aggressively btw) just makes me. I would love to hammer silver, if that is okay with the rest of town.
You literally waffled all day yesterday.
And suddenly you are confident in silvers towniness.
You called me town the entire game.
And now i could be scum.
It isn't the fact you changed your mind, but how quick it happened.
I don't think silver is town. And tbh, i can ***** out a post like his big swan song if i were scum. It's not hard if you are good at the game.
Anyway, you are silvers partner. The voting records and the sudden change of heart proves that.
@eco unvoted for hammer rights. Plz?
"The only one i am waffling on is you"
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Bull*****. Why did you really unvote?
Plus I'm pretty sure they had day chat and really wanted shadow dead so they could lynch me then push Mindreaver and only need one more mislynch. By that point they were already committed to the bus and they didn't really need to move off of their buddy to get the town lynch because I pushed Shockwave, almost got him lynched, then led the CFD to AG. So I did most of the work for them.
And tom knows I like VCA and might have straight up dismissed them as buddies based on them voting together. Worked for him in the cross-over game anyway.
Hammer. Rights.
You don't have hammer rights. Those belong to Eco.
You just want to be off wagon so you can bus if it comes to that or drop the quick hammer if Eco votes me.
._. Jeeze. ScumMe must be so dumb.
I mean, it fits.
So.
Leave me to my reads? Plzkthnxdiescumbyeluvyew
Well if you put it that way... sike.
You are dismissing my scumread and it is literally frustrating me. You are adding paranoia of a scum daychat.
Jeeze, now i know why i made it this far.
I am a perfect mislynch w tom.
Yet that Rod unvote. What in the hell? Shadow/Silver/Rod? Shadow/Vaimes/Rod? Shadow/Silver/Vaimes?
Actually. Why isn't tom on any of your potential teams there? Why is rod more likely scum with any of us than him?
Yet again I ask however why you are such a national treasure for this game early on? You should just be vanilla town. And you've done a *****-all job of keeping town alive. So no, your survival was never more important unless you were scum.
And if you're going to fling the "I think Vaimes is town" excuse in my face for why you wouldn't vote him, I'm going to turn it back around and tell you the same for why I'm not including him in a potential scumworld.