Also, I'd rather not turn this into a wallwar if we can help it. You aren't going to change my mind, because no one else fits on the scum team. It isn't me. I've suspected it wasn't Vaimes for a while, he's playing very differently than he did in TriggerHappy. Vaimes doesn't think it's Zen and Zen's iso is pretty clean. It's certainly not Eco. It's you/tom. I just needed some time I didn't really have before to put it together. It fits perfectly.
Show me the world where Vaimes busses both his buddies for two game days then waffles at the last second, losing all towncred for the busses.
Waffling is a townie response to lylo because you don't want to get it wrong.
Also, scum!Vaimes is way less analytical and aggressive. He coasted pretty hard in TriggerHappy because I cleared him for tone until we got to almost lylo.
Show me the world where Vaimes busses both his buddies for two game days then waffles at the last second, losing all towncred for the busses.
Waffling is a townie response to lylo because you don't want to get it wrong.
Also, scum!Vaimes is way less analytical and aggressive. He coasted pretty hard in TriggerHappy because I cleared him for tone until we got to almost lylo.
Nope. Not listening. Just like shadow, i'm sticking with my gut.
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actually nah, let's sit that one out and work through a few things before jumping this shark straight over Silver's head.
@Tom. Shadow/Silver/who? Name the third man in this band. Do some research. Lay some reasons. Don't be a Citrus.
@Vaimes. Rod|Tom|Eco. Most likely partner. Gun to your head, who do you name?
@Eco. Howdy partner. Let's say you and I hold off on voting as Silver is now sitting at L-2 and I'd rather keep it that way for a few days to work through analysis now that we have a scum flip at last.
@Rod. Actually I've got nada to say to you at the moment except for... don't drink the kool-aid? Eh.
@Silver. I on the other hand will be drinking the kool-aid. Time to eye your last ditch Hail Mary and see how it holds up against a game re-read(this is gonna hurt).
Not going to get much more out of me today or tomorrow. We've got until the New Year to secure a lynch, breath and do some work instead of taking the easy out into a possible win-possible loss scenario.
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Rod, if you're just going to troll, please don't. For once in this game I actually have hope that victory is in sight. Don't be so eager to charge off the cliff like a lovable little lemming.
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We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
@Zenzao
Currently thinking about eco's coaching of silver and vaimes' very pockety read on you.
I think I'm at you/vaimes>eco>rodemy
I don't feel good about any thirds though.
I really want to see how today plays out
I want to tinfoil a you/vaimes team but I just can't see silver as town and I'm pretty sure we always lose to that team anyway
@Tom
I'll chew that over and get back to you. Go ahead and try to resolve your feelings on the matter until you feel more confident.
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We see the wild Zenzao going about his natural routine, almost like clockwork: lurking around the savanna (his desktop) and occasionally moseying up to other gentle creatures; until around sundown, at which point he packs up and makes for his tree (goes mobile) where he will spend the rest of the evening alone and undisturbed. A healthy Zenzao will prefer not sleep for some time, and their precise waking time is currently unknown.
Like that reads very, very strongly as a "my lynch will end the game" post, rather than a "I'm scum and need to make sure my buddy looks good after I die" post.
Also [redacted], but that is absolutely something for post-game.
Hm.
We're probably gonna lynch tom toDay. Fun.
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Zen, whose partner am I picking? Silver's? 'Cause lolme, I've probably been completely wrong on him.
@Tom
I'll chew that over and get back to you. Go ahead and try to resolve your feelings on the matter until you feel more confident.
you mean day 5?
What? I mean Wednesday or Thursday. Tomorrow I'm going to be busy with real life, and I've been up all day today on four hours of sleep and four hours of sleep the night before that and all I want right now is to crawl into bed without having to wake up early for anything, but I've still got to write something for today on DLP and after re-reading anthology #5's last draft, I'm remembering and seeing just how many aspects of my story I'd remembered wrong in the past year and need to rectify in the notes I've been building up lately.
tl;dr: Zen is a very weary boy with a lot on his mind beyond the scope of this game, and putting forth the cognitive fortitude to decipher posts and scumhunt right now is being taken up with more pressing matters.
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Zen, whose partner am I picking? Silver's? 'Cause lolme, I've probably been completely wrong on him.
Yes, Silver's. Or if you feel so contrived, pick out two for Shadow instead.
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I'm town. Zenzao is absolutely town. I will never lynch him.
I thought Rod was super town for his tone, engagement, activity, etc. I wouldn't have lynched him without a strong case.
I think Eco is town, though people have warned me not to townread him too easily. But I thought Shock was town and mislynch bait, so.
tom is just. Leftover. Eco's right, he doesn't make sense on a team with shadow and Silver. If tom is scum and has been tunneling them all game, then one of them is probably town and I'm just plain wrong. And tom not being concerned about catching the third scum, even though he's apparently had two of them locked in, is also yeah when we're on the verge of losing.
I blame DoTA for everything.
So, funnily enough, I'm considering not lynching Silver. That big post completely outweighs DoTA's scumminess.
And I'm out for the night across the board. Don't lynch while I'm sleeping, please.
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It reads so much like a townie on the brink of death. Not scum trying to cover for their third partner.
(Which Silver doesn't really need to do, because he's also right in that no one has managed to fit him with another living player.)
Refute these, or die.
yes, scum try to act townie. especially when theyre about to be lynched
and... he doesnt look like hes trying to cover for a partner and he doesnt need to. so you already refuted that one yourself.
what team are you fitting me on now if thats so important to you?
never mind that ive been trying to lynch shadow for the last month and they made ME the counterwagon.
who is my other partner?
Eh, **** it. Let's #YOLOBBB89 #Papa-wants-a-new-pair-of-scum-hide-shoes.
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@Eco
Calling all abstainees. Take a look at the last page. Look at timing. Look at votals over the past few Days. The Lynch is in your hands.
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Vaimes has been tunneling on Silver literally since Day 1. Given that everyone and their mother cannot for the life of them confidently name a living partner for Silver, it would have been in Vaimes best interest to speedlynch Silver and pretty much secure a win the next Day. Waffling now just makes him look really, really bad if Silver /does/ end up getting lynched and flips scum.
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Seriously though.
From my POV, if the entire Silver wagon is town, then it means Eco is mafia. And I really don't think Eco is mafia.
Which means scum are voting for Silver.
Which means I am no longer interested in killing Silver.
I wouldn't play you like that as scum Vaimes. For what it's worth.
That'd be even worse than leaving it alone as town, I think.
I certainly hope not, because that would be really uncool.
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Anyway.
I don't want to defend Silver too hard in case I'm wrong and end up looking like a huge doofus post-game.
But I believe Silver is town now. His case on tom/Rod makes a TON more sense than a team involving tom/Silver. If he's scum, he only made the game harder for himself when he's been getting tunneled sine Day 1 by killing off people who were townreading him. He tied himself really, really closely with shadow, a sinking ship who was officially doomed once Mind flipped town. And I empathize with his frustration at being town and feeling like nothing he says matters. His post is just too genuine for me to think he's just trying to wiggle out of a lynch when his potential living partner is really well hidden.
Smaller thing, but shadow NEEDED towncred to live. So he was probably pushing on a buddy in his final moments to either clear himself or his buddy (hi, tom).
So yo, Silver. How do you feel on CFDing Vaimes right now? Give Eco something else to chew on when he turns up?
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So yo, Silver. How do you feel on CFDing Vaimes right now? Give Eco something else to chew on when he turns up?
What would be the point? Like. I don't get it. I'm pretty sure it's just tom/rodemy.
Besides, if we both vote Vaimes and I'm right, couldn't tom and rod just switch and hammer him quick? Especially if they possibly have day chat? Seems like a really bad idea to me.
If I'm wrong, that's too bad and I'll regret it. But I feel right about this in the same way I felt right to go after Fonti and Newcomb in Mimefia and Jarizok and miner in HPM.
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If I'm wrong, that's too bad and I'll regret it. But I feel right about this in the same way I felt right to go after Fonti and Newcomb in Mimefia and Jarizok and miner in HPM.
Please explain how you think Vaimes busses me and shadow all of D1 and D2, lets us kill everyone town reading us, then waffles on us hard on D3 instead of turbo-bussing-engaged like tom and rodemy did on shadow. Thanks.
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Thanks for the concern though.
He has fenced on so many of his "townclears".
For now, i want you and your wifom outnof the picture.
Waffling is a townie response to lylo because you don't want to get it wrong.
Also, scum!Vaimes is way less analytical and aggressive. He coasted pretty hard in TriggerHappy because I cleared him for tone until we got to almost lylo.
Nope. Not listening. Just like shadow, i'm sticking with my gut.
I don't need to convince you. You're scum.
vote silver
No. You.
actually nah, let's sit that one out and work through a few things before jumping this shark straight over Silver's head.
@Tom. Shadow/Silver/who? Name the third man in this band. Do some research. Lay some reasons. Don't be a Citrus.
@Vaimes. Rod|Tom|Eco. Most likely partner. Gun to your head, who do you name?
@Eco. Howdy partner. Let's say you and I hold off on voting as Silver is now sitting at L-2 and I'd rather keep it that way for a few days to work through analysis now that we have a scum flip at last.
@Rod. Actually I've got nada to say to you at the moment except for... don't drink the kool-aid? Eh.
@Silver. I on the other hand will be drinking the kool-aid. Time to eye your last ditch Hail Mary and see how it holds up against a game re-read(this is gonna hurt).
Not going to get much more out of me today or tomorrow. We've got until the New Year to secure a lynch, breath and do some work instead of taking the easy out into a possible win-possible loss scenario.
BETTER BE THAT PURPLE ***** OR I AM ANGERED
Rod, if you're just going to troll, please don't. For once in this game I actually have hope that victory is in sight. Don't be so eager to charge off the cliff like a lovable little lemming.
Currently thinking about eco's coaching of silver and vaimes' very pockety read on you.
I think I'm at you/vaimes>eco>rodemy
I don't feel good about any thirds though.
I really want to see how today plays out
I want to tinfoil a you/vaimes team but I just can't see silver as town and I'm pretty sure we always lose to that team anyway
I'll chew that over and get back to you. Go ahead and try to resolve your feelings on the matter until you feel more confident.
Silver is town, isn't he.
Also [redacted], but that is absolutely something for post-game.
Hm.
We're probably gonna lynch tom toDay. Fun.
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Zen, whose partner am I picking? Silver's? 'Cause lolme, I've probably been completely wrong on him.
What? I mean Wednesday or Thursday. Tomorrow I'm going to be busy with real life, and I've been up all day today on four hours of sleep and four hours of sleep the night before that and all I want right now is to crawl into bed without having to wake up early for anything, but I've still got to write something for today on DLP and after re-reading anthology #5's last draft, I'm remembering and seeing just how many aspects of my story I'd remembered wrong in the past year and need to rectify in the notes I've been building up lately.
tl;dr: Zen is a very weary boy with a lot on his mind beyond the scope of this game, and putting forth the cognitive fortitude to decipher posts and scumhunt right now is being taken up with more pressing matters.
Yes, Silver's. Or if you feel so contrived, pick out two for Shadow instead.
Vaimes
Zenzao
Rod
Eco
tom
Silver
These were my reads during the Night phase.
I'm town. Zenzao is absolutely town. I will never lynch him.
I thought Rod was super town for his tone, engagement, activity, etc. I wouldn't have lynched him without a strong case.
I think Eco is town, though people have warned me not to townread him too easily. But I thought Shock was town and mislynch bait, so.
tom is just. Leftover. Eco's right, he doesn't make sense on a team with shadow and Silver. If tom is scum and has been tunneling them all game, then one of them is probably town and I'm just plain wrong. And tom not being concerned about catching the third scum, even though he's apparently had two of them locked in, is also yeah when we're on the verge of losing.
I blame DoTA for everything.
So, funnily enough, I'm considering not lynching Silver. That big post completely outweighs DoTA's scumminess.
It reads so much like a townie on the brink of death. Not scum trying to cover for their third partner.
(Which Silver doesn't really need to do, because he's also right in that no one has managed to fit him with another living player.)
im town.
scum tried to lynch me yesterday
seem to be doing it again today
i dont know how you, as town, are even asking me to think about it and... what?
self vote ftl?
at least for today yes, scum try to act townie. especially when theyre about to be lynched
and... he doesnt look like hes trying to cover for a partner and he doesnt need to. so you already refuted that one yourself.
what team are you fitting me on now if thats so important to you?
never mind that ive been trying to lynch shadow for the last month and they made ME the counterwagon.
who is my other partner?
Oh ***** vaimes is scum.
Oh *****.. vaimes is scum.
Vote Silver
Vote tom
If Silver is scum here then I'm kind of pissed that he brought up stuff that he should have waited until post-game to say in order to dodge a lynch.
And the only one I'm really waffling on is you, so.
tom (2): Silver, Vaimes
Abstaining: Eco
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Man. Me, voting with Silver. This game really needs to end.
Scum won't have a perfect victory, which is all I can really ask for at this point.
tomsloger - Silvercrys3467, Vaimes
Silvercrys3467 - Rodemy, tomsloger, ZenzaoDLP
With 6 alive the threshold is 4.
Day 4 deadline is set for 2359 GMT-6 on January 2nd
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Calling all abstainees. Take a look at the last page. Look at timing. Look at votals over the past few Days. The Lynch is in your hands.
Vaimes has been tunneling on Silver literally since Day 1. Given that everyone and their mother cannot for the life of them confidently name a living partner for Silver, it would have been in Vaimes best interest to speedlynch Silver and pretty much secure a win the next Day. Waffling now just makes him look really, really bad if Silver /does/ end up getting lynched and flips scum.
Thanks,
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Seriously though.
From my POV, if the entire Silver wagon is town, then it means Eco is mafia. And I really don't think Eco is mafia.
Which means scum are voting for Silver.
Which means I am no longer interested in killing Silver.
That'd be even worse than leaving it alone as town, I think.
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Anyway.
I don't want to defend Silver too hard in case I'm wrong and end up looking like a huge doofus post-game.
But I believe Silver is town now. His case on tom/Rod makes a TON more sense than a team involving tom/Silver. If he's scum, he only made the game harder for himself when he's been getting tunneled sine Day 1 by killing off people who were townreading him. He tied himself really, really closely with shadow, a sinking ship who was officially doomed once Mind flipped town. And I empathize with his frustration at being town and feeling like nothing he says matters. His post is just too genuine for me to think he's just trying to wiggle out of a lynch when his potential living partner is really well hidden.
Smaller thing, but shadow NEEDED towncred to live. So he was probably pushing on a buddy in his final moments to either clear himself or his buddy (hi, tom).
Let's lynch tom.
Just don't give tom or Rod the hammer.
or exactly zenzao/rodemy
eco come lynch scum
Besides, if we both vote Vaimes and I'm right, couldn't tom and rod just switch and hammer him quick? Especially if they possibly have day chat? Seems like a really bad idea to me.
and i do not believe zenzao/rodemy is viable
but yes i am out of butter pls send
Shadow/Silver/Vaimes.
If I'm wrong, that's too bad and I'll regret it. But I feel right about this in the same way I felt right to go after Fonti and Newcomb in Mimefia and Jarizok and miner in HPM.