1). The pace of this game is higher due to the size. You must post at least once every 48 hours or so. Failure to do so will result in a prod, of which the accumulation of many prods may result in removal from the game.
2). Please be polite to each other in a gaming matter. Keep the aggro to the game, and away from personal insults.
3). Do not quote your role pm, or do anything else that may be considered bad form.
4). Please bold any votes. You will not be required to unvote in order to cast a new vote if you desire.
5). Deadlines are non-negotiable, and votes after the time will not be acknowledged, even if I am not here to close the round.
6). In the event no lynch is reached before the end of a deadline, a plurality will decide the lynch for the day, and assumes anyone not voting simply does not exist.
7). Nights last 48 hours, or until all actions are received, which ever comes first.
8). Placeholder for more rules, but 7 seems more than enough. Basically, the long and short of it basically follow the "don't be a dick" rule as the golden rule. I know most of you and respect all of you enough to assume everyone can play nice if they want to.
This is an OPEN SET-UP. EACH OF THE FOLLOWING ROLES ARE PRESENT IN THE GAME. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS:
3 Town Vanilla
1 Town Trapsmith
1 Town Vigilante (1-shot) (will be triggered by trapsmith)
1 Mafia Roleblocker (will be triggered by trapsmith)
1 Mafia Bulletproof (will be triggered by trapsmith)
Hello, Shinen, Tordeck, leukovirus, tomsloger, Ethanljr, Ghosting, and Killjoy. I want to play a game. The seven of you are connected in ways that some of you know, and some of you don't. Rich/poor, white/black, male/female. There is no discrimination or single attribute that makes a human being give up on life, or consider the life of someone else forfeit. Through your connections, your weakness, and your luck, the seven of you have done something horrible. If you wish to make it out of this game alive, you will have to get through these games.
In 168 hours (7 days), a decision will be made and the day will end. We will see who has what it takes to survive. Live or die, make your choice. Welcome to Day 1.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Vote: leukovirus because it wouldn't be my first post of the thread if I wasn't voting somebody in it.
On an at best vaguely related note, I'm actually not sure if I've seen Saw V or not. There are so many, and I know I've watched like... half of them, but I don't remember which is which. Oh well.
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Wait so the entire game is only 7 days, or day 1 is only 7 days? If the former, that is both awesome and crazy, lol. I was hoping for a faster paced game since the other setup I'm in is the exact opposite, but obviously if it's 7 days for the entire game or 7 days for day 1 then there's a pretty big difference.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
nah, just roleplaying. this font is out of character to avoid being useless. ill probably show up less often as the game moves along. she is pretty smart, if a little self loathing
th-thanks? you are super weird.
i dont really care what anyone can do. i mean, we're all chained together. plus we already know what everyone can do. just not who can do it
i want to talk about the bad things we all did. were you guys involved in the fire?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
i have none that im aware of, but have been scumread consistently as any alignment
plus, he isnt even here. doesnt share our link.
talk to me.
i'm ashley by the way.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Hey Shinen... I don't believe we've met... can you link some games you've been in for me?
This is the only game I've played in full on the MTGSalvation forums. There was another game with a very complex set up (the first Final Fantasy mafia) that I played in but replaced out of fairly early; I can dig up that link as well if you'd like. In both games I was scum.
I have a lot of intervening experience on a variety of mediums, so I'm honestly not certain how much that game might help with reading me-but it's there for the perusing nonetheless.
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Hm. Ok, I have a plan. Vig claims. Trapsmith does NOT claim. Then the trapsmith knows who the vig is so as not to target him. If Vig gets counterclaimed, Vig shoots the other one.
Trapsmith targets outside the dichotomy, hopefully catching scum.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Hm. Ok, I have a plan. Vig claims. Trapsmith does NOT claim. Then the trapsmith knows who the vig is so as not to target him. If Vig gets counterclaimed, Vig shoots the other one.
Trapsmith targets outside the dichotomy, hopefully catching scum.
There's no town protective role, so if the vig claims, they just get roleblocked and killed night 1, right? I guess it makes the traspsmith more accurate, but trading out one of the only town power roles night 1 for that accuracy boost seems risky at best, and potentially game-ending at worst.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
That means the roleblock doesn't hit the trapsmith, having a confirmed town or confirmed scum D2.
There's another option that I don't wanna say in case the scum don't know it yet, but there are other possibilities other than that.
I'm really just trying to get this game started as we only have like 130 hours left and no one is doing anything.
Getting something started makes sense-and even if we end up deciding not to have the Vig claim, creating substantive discussion by suggesting it is a good thing. I just don't know if we should leap on the plan or not.
And if the trapsmith confirms a town day 2, then they just paint the target on themselves. Obviously if they hit scum n1, there's some very serious benefit to be gained-but if they don't, the only thing gained is that they can't hit the vig going forward.
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Unvote lest I forget to, since it only takes a plurality to lynch, not a majority. (Though I suppose that means I'm the one currently on the chopping block, so to speak.)
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7 alive (2 scum)
Mislynch, scum shoots town
5 alive (2 scum) Lylo.
That's discounting the vig. If we mislynch D1 and the vigs shoots another town, we lose N1.
If trapsmith reveals themselves D2, then yes it puts a target on their back... but at that point we need as much info as possible. No second shot but it improves our chances at not immediately losing.
I'd say only do it if we mislynch.
I do agree that as long as we're discussing, we're doing what we need to be doing.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
hey leuk. what can i call you?
im very jumpy. ive had a rough couple of months. you know, with the fire and all.
plus theres that thing where someone kidnapped me and brought me into a room with some other people talking about killing eachother. not to mention the voice that i thought was in my head that sounds like courier new.
ethan, is that a nickname? what did you do to get here?
hey leuk. what can i call you?
well of course im jumpy. ive had a rough couple of months. you know, with the fire and all.
plus theres that thing where someone kidnapped me and brought me into a room with some other people talking about killing eachother. not to mention the voice that i thought was in my head that sounds like courier new.
ethan, is that a nickname?
what did you do to get here?
im glad to hear someone else hasnt done this before.
Do we know what happens in the result of a tie vote during the day? Obviously it's not something we can risk after day 1, but if a scum last minute votes outing themselves while we have all seven to lynch a random townie, that's a good trade.
There is also the merit, I suppose, of 'controlling' the vigilante by having them claim and act as a lightning rod. It removes the possibility of them shooting scum, as I said, but it does also remove the possibility of them shooting a townie. Unfortunately, how valuable that is depends highly on how much the vigilante can be trusted to play well.
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KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
RULES OF THE GAME
1). The pace of this game is higher due to the size. You must post at least once every 48 hours or so. Failure to do so will result in a prod, of which the accumulation of many prods may result in removal from the game.
2). Please be polite to each other in a gaming matter. Keep the aggro to the game, and away from personal insults.
3). Do not quote your role pm, or do anything else that may be considered bad form.
4). Please bold any votes. You will not be required to unvote in order to cast a new vote if you desire.
5). Deadlines are non-negotiable, and votes after the time will not be acknowledged, even if I am not here to close the round.
6). In the event no lynch is reached before the end of a deadline, a plurality will decide the lynch for the day, and assumes anyone not voting simply does not exist.
7). Nights last 48 hours, or until all actions are received, which ever comes first.
8). Placeholder for more rules, but 7 seems more than enough. Basically, the long and short of it basically follow the "don't be a dick" rule as the golden rule. I know most of you and respect all of you enough to assume everyone can play nice if they want to.
This is an OPEN SET-UP. EACH OF THE FOLLOWING ROLES ARE PRESENT IN THE GAME. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS:
3 Town Vanilla
1 Town Trapsmith
1 Town Vigilante (1-shot) (will be triggered by trapsmith)
1 Mafia Roleblocker (will be triggered by trapsmith)
1 Mafia Bulletproof (will be triggered by trapsmith)
The GJ way path to no lynching:
1. Shinen
2. Tordeck
3. leukovirus
5. Ethanljr
6. Ghosting
7. Killjoy
Waiting to enter
1. Iso
2. Rhand
Game Over
1. tomsloger Town vanilla Lynched Day 1
The GJ way path to no lynching:
In 168 hours (7 days), a decision will be made and the day will end. We will see who has what it takes to survive. Live or die, make your choice. Welcome to Day 1.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
i used to be respected. important.
now im nothing. a garbage human. a shell that used to be a person.
i dont know how long i can take this.
On an at best vaguely related note, I'm actually not sure if I've seen Saw V or not. There are so many, and I know I've watched like... half of them, but I don't remember which is which. Oh well.
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shes alway itchy. but she is right. we only have 7 days here
***** can you guys hear him too? he freaks me out.
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Also, vote tomsloger.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Hey Ethan, do I know you?
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leukovirus (1) Shinen
tomsloger (1) Ghosting
Killjoy (1) Ethanljr
Not Voting (3) Tordeck, tomsloger, leukovirus
...With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Do you have what it takes to survive?
(tom, I can't tell if you are bolded or not. Can you use a font that shows bolded better?)
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it might make us feel better to talk about them.
thats what they said in my intervention anyway.
wait what?
Are you intentionally talking flavourfully or do you have to?
Either way, are you suggesting we discuss our roles? Is that not 99% of the time a terrible idea? I'd like to hear your reasoning on this for sure.
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th-thanks? you are super weird.
i dont really care what anyone can do. i mean, we're all chained together. plus we already know what everyone can do. just not who can do it
i want to talk about the bad things we all did. were you guys involved in the fire?
so many people. burning. dying in pain.
the screams. THE SCREAMING.
Ok time to stir up some *****.
Hey Tom... answer a question for me. What are your scumtells?
plus, he isnt even here. doesnt share our link.
talk to me.
i'm ashley by the way.
what's your name?
Ok lets try this: When you were caught as scum, how were you caught?
Hey Shinen... I don't believe we've met... can you link some games you've been in for me?
ask again later. my only scum game is still in progress
This is the only game I've played in full on the MTGSalvation forums. There was another game with a very complex set up (the first Final Fantasy mafia) that I played in but replaced out of fairly early; I can dig up that link as well if you'd like. In both games I was scum.
I have a lot of intervening experience on a variety of mediums, so I'm honestly not certain how much that game might help with reading me-but it's there for the perusing nonetheless.
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Spooky.
Never played before, or never played on these forums before?
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Trapsmith targets outside the dichotomy, hopefully catching scum.
There's no town protective role, so if the vig claims, they just get roleblocked and killed night 1, right? I guess it makes the traspsmith more accurate, but trading out one of the only town power roles night 1 for that accuracy boost seems risky at best, and potentially game-ending at worst.
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There's another option that I don't wanna say in case the scum don't know it yet, but there are other possibilities other than that.
I'm really just trying to get this game started as we only have like 130 hours left and no one is doing anything.
Getting something started makes sense-and even if we end up deciding not to have the Vig claim, creating substantive discussion by suggesting it is a good thing. I just don't know if we should leap on the plan or not.
And if the trapsmith confirms a town day 2, then they just paint the target on themselves. Obviously if they hit scum n1, there's some very serious benefit to be gained-but if they don't, the only thing gained is that they can't hit the vig going forward.
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vote: shinen
its much easier when you dont have a moral compass in the first place.
you sure are jumpy ashley
ooc; okay tom ill rp with you.
Welcome to your first game, then.
Unvote lest I forget to, since it only takes a plurality to lynch, not a majority. (Though I suppose that means I'm the one currently on the chopping block, so to speak.)
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7 alive (2 scum)
Mislynch, scum shoots town
5 alive (2 scum) Lylo.
That's discounting the vig. If we mislynch D1 and the vigs shoots another town, we lose N1.
If trapsmith reveals themselves D2, then yes it puts a target on their back... but at that point we need as much info as possible. No second shot but it improves our chances at not immediately losing.
I'd say only do it if we mislynch.
I do agree that as long as we're discussing, we're doing what we need to be doing.
im very jumpy. ive had a rough couple of months. you know, with the fire and all.
plus theres that thing where someone kidnapped me and brought me into a room with some other people talking about killing eachother. not to mention the voice that i thought was in my head that sounds like courier new.
ethan, is that a nickname? what did you do to get here?
well of course im jumpy. ive had a rough couple of months. you know, with the fire and all.
plus theres that thing where someone kidnapped me and brought me into a room with some other people talking about killing eachother. not to mention the voice that i thought was in my head that sounds like courier new.
ethan, is that a nickname?
what did you do to get here?
im glad to hear someone else hasnt done this before.
There is also the merit, I suppose, of 'controlling' the vigilante by having them claim and act as a lightning rod. It removes the possibility of them shooting scum, as I said, but it does also remove the possibility of them shooting a townie. Unfortunately, how valuable that is depends highly on how much the vigilante can be trusted to play well.
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it may be a waste of time, but it may not be.
you can call brit, i guess. i think its definitely a waste of time, and we should choose someone to kill already.
though based on that nameless killjoy guy's math, not killing anyone seems like a good thing
plus our fearless moderator ******* loves no lynching. i'd believe he designed the game to make it the right choice.
nicely done ashley
I'm liking that idea right now.
but ive never killed anyone.
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tomsloger (1) Ghosting
Killjoy (1) Ethanljr
Not Voting (4) Tordeck, tomsloger, , Killjoy, Shinen
...With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Do you have what it takes to survive?
You notice the time clock states 123 hours. Although seemingly long for a "game", every hour ticks slowly away to what will be an inevitable death.
The GJ way path to no lynching: