Okay, Bur okayed me to stay in the game with the knowledge I have that the Flamingos (Proph, Megiddo, Chemtrails/homaridhoney) were all signing their posts as homaridhoney.
Given that information, Proph, I'm curious - why was there such dissonance within where to put your clan's vote? Additionally, can you explain your previous posts' views? Did you guys discuss this at all in your QT? Why did you all pretend to be HH and then pretend you hadn't been posting before (that one's specifically at you, Proph)?
~Iso
Unvote, Vote: Flamingos
This is a policy lynch. I don't care what alignment Flamingos is, this is unacceptable.
Why did you make these three statements? (in your first post) Why is it liberating to post under a hydra account?
-proph
I was being ironic. Posting under a hydra account supposedly means that no one knows who you really are, but I'm the only one playing this hydra so it was obvious who I was. One post later I find out that I'm supposed to be signing posts anyway, which makes it even more obvious who I am, making the joke (imo) even funnier. Sadly, explaining jokes tends to kill them, so I hope you're happy.
-Puddlejumper
Iso(Family) says Brigade is town.
Flamingo and Family are not scum together.
I agree with both these points, and therefore lynching Family will confirm a townie one way or the other. I think that makes them a pretty awesome lynch.
Am also okay with a Crafters lynch at this point.
-Puddlejumper
This is a policy lynch. I don't care what alignment Flamingos is, this is unacceptable.
OOG: I completely apologize on the behalf of my clan for doing this. I thought it would cause some giggles on the part of us and it ended turning out really badly.
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I agree with both these points, and therefore lynching Family will confirm a townie one way or the other. I think that makes them a pretty awesome lynch.
Do you have any actual reasoning as to why you think that Family is scum? Lynching them to confirm a townie as opposed to lynching them for being scum is terrible.
Iso: Any follow up to your hydra questions? I'd expect a bigger reaction coming from you.
Do you have any actual reasoning as to why you think that Family is scum? Lynching them to confirm a townie as opposed to lynching them for being scum is terrible.
Yes, that would be terrible.
I think they're scum because it feels more like they want to lynch low hanging fruit than actually find scum.
As you may now know, Megiddo, Chemtrails and Prophylaxis have been playing this game under HomaridHoney's name, flaming and trolling people. I have given them a warning regarding this behaviour and will modkill them if they will continue to do so.
Also, if you guys want to add more people to your hydra, please inform me about it, so I'll know who are playing.
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Also modgaming Bur setups is kind of treading down a dark path
Do you have any actual reasoning as to why you think that Family is scum? Lynching them to confirm a townie as opposed to lynching them for being scum is terrible.
Yes, that would be terrible.
I think they're scum because it feels more like they want to lynch low hanging fruit than actually find scum.
Do you think The Crafters are scum? Why or why not?
~Iso
I think they're scum, yeah. Looking at the way you go "Crafters is probably scum but hey look Flamingo should be the lynch anyway" and then Crafters goes "barn, yo. Policy lynch ahoy!", I can definitely see you being a team.
Well, I'm not going to have time to go over everyone's requests until Friday at the earliest because as I mentioned before lots of hw from summer school. Midterm tomorrow to boot. Skimming over, it looks like we're at L-1, so here's the claim:
I am Arturia Pendragon Ilmatar. VT. I cracked an egg and made the universe or something like that.
If you all decide that Crafters are scum before I get back, then good for you. I'll be back at the end of the game to laugh at whomever. I guess be weary of Family if they live through the Night as they are likely scum otherwise. Hoping EDH, Ronin and Gaymers actually post something before the Day ends.
OOG: No matter how many times Proph apologizes, it doesn't change the fact that Flamingo intentionally went against the spirit of the game by trolling and posing as a single person as 3. If I were mod, that'd definitely warrant a modkill.
But you just accused us of exclusively going after low-hanging fruit when it's well-established that more of us are scumreading the Crafters (or we are at least more strongly scumreading the Crafters) than the Flamingos. So how are you not also going after low-hanging fruit if that is true?
That's fair. If we do see Crafters turn up scum, that point gets somewhat weaker. Although I get the sense that Crafters are scum at least partially because of their interaction with you, that would admittedly be some really aggressive bussing.
The claim changes nothing. No reason to drag out the day. Unvote, Vote Crafters
Assuming that is the hammer, I would like to say the following:
1. We were town
2. You should still policy lynch Flamingo
3. Seriously, policy lynch Flamingo even if you think they're town
4. I'm pretty sure Brigade and Seppel are town.
5. The focus has been so completely on us that it's hard to tell who scum are; I'd guess Flamingo (who you should lynch anyway) and then...Limited? Hard to say when I don't remember any posts coming from EDH, Ronin, and Gaymers. I'm not certain on Family; it feels like they made a push on me they could get away with, but I might just be butthurt about it.
Massive skullduggery here, could easily consider many as scum at this point.
Voting after the hammer. Cool story, broseph. That's super nifty-keen of you and adds so many town points I think I'm going to have to clear you of any and all suspicion right here.
Wait...
- Teia
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"This isn't the power of a Queen Succubus. It's just... mere violence."
Massive skullduggery here, could easily consider many as scum at this point.
Voting after the hammer. Cool story, broseph. That's super nifty-keen of you and adds so many town points I think I'm going to have to clear you of any and all suspicion right here.
Wait...
- Teia
Aren't we still in day 1? Sorry, first MTGS mafia experience, changing vote based on posts read.
Assuming that is the hammer, I would like to say the following:
1. We were town
2. You should still policy lynch Flamingo
3. Seriously, policy lynch Flamingo even if you think they're town
4. I'm pretty sure Brigade and Seppel are town.
5. The focus has been so completely on us that it's hard to tell who scum are; I'd guess Flamingo (who you should lynch anyway) and then...Limited? Hard to say when I don't remember any posts coming from EDH, Ronin, and Gaymers. I'm not certain on Family; it feels like they made a push on me they could get away with, but I might just be butthurt about it.
lol, brand new to mafia, seemed like I violated some sort of unwritten rule, didn't want to offend anyone, you all seem like pretty seasoned mafia veterans.
lol, brand new to mafia, seemed like I violated some sort of unwritten rule, didn't want to offend anyone, you all seem like pretty seasoned mafia veterans.
~Jr
But why is offending someone a particular concern of yours? Doesn't this seem like the type of game where people's toes get tread upon often?
~Iso
Guess you have a point there, idk maybe it's a Minnesotan thing.
Given our [Family's] limited number of interactions with Limited, I feel like if you really wanted to know, you would look at the interactions in question. So, why aren't you reading the game?
As it is, I'll frankly say I felt a bit bullied (which actually really surprised me) into moving my vote on to the Crafters from Flamingo, which came about by Puddlejumper's very coy way of saying "I'll follow through on overtly suspecting you if you don't move your vote". Given The Family's roster, there's bound to be paranoia of us to some degree, even if we prove our township beyond a reasonable doubt. I also have a passively scummy post tone, as evidenced by dozens of people's inability to townread me when I'm town. Honestly, what Puddlejumper did is a brilliant scum tactic because it's incredibly subtle but shows that he has an very solid grasp on the gamestate right now and is very difficult for someone to articulate on what makes it so scummy. However, Puddlejumper, experienced as he is, should not have such control over the gamestate so early unless he is scum. His insight comes from a scum mindset. There is no other way to put this.
If you still don't understand, let me know - but Puddlejumper is scum MVP this game for sure.
Backhanded compliments aside, what I did was good play as town. I absolutely tried to bully you, but it was into actually following through on your lukewarm bussing attempt (or, I guess, if Crafters isn't trolling us, what I just read as such). Honestly, nobody but Crafters was getting lynched today anyway, all I did was force you into actually making a commitment to it.
Masterless's 171 is hugely problematic, as is Teia's response to me in 151. Regarding the latter, she makes an underlying assumption that Family is town in 45 then makes a (sarcastic?) comment about my voting with town momentum in in 68 that seems directly to contradict her 45. I think I've only seen Teia scum once, but I don't recall sarcasm as her MO.
Massive skullduggery here, could easily consider many as scum at this point.
What does this actually mean?
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As it is, I'll frankly say I felt a bit bullied (which actually really surprised me) into moving my vote on to the Crafters from Flamingo, which came about by Puddlejumper's very coy way of saying "I'll follow through on overtly suspecting you if you don't move your vote". Given The Family's roster, there's bound to be paranoia of us to some degree, even if we prove our township beyond a reasonable doubt. I also have a passively scummy post tone, as evidenced by dozens of people's inability to townread me when I'm town. Honestly, what Puddlejumper did is a brilliant scum tactic because it's incredibly subtle but shows that he has an very solid grasp on the gamestate right now and is very difficult for someone to articulate on what makes it so scummy. However, Puddlejumper, experienced as he is, should not have such control over the gamestate so early unless he is scum. His insight comes from a scum mindset. There is no other way to put this.
A couple of questions regarding this post:
1. How is the scum tactic so "brilliant"? Given that Limited is probably the scummiest person to come out of this (I also pressured him somewhat early on) this seems mostly applicable if the person you're describing it as is a brilliant scum mastermind, which (no offense) I don't feel Puddlejumper is.
2. Please articulate more on this point:
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should not have such control over the gamestate so early unless he is scum
"The first day had drawn near and night was about to fall. The heroes had traveled across many lands and lakes to reach each other and had discussed about the matter for the whole day. It was quite clear to everyone that amongst them were traitors.
The longer the discussion dragged out, the more it started to dawn to heroes present: One of them somehow seemed bit... tense and agitated.
'Why are thou so tense? Thou hath been constantly been agitated since the morn.' asked someone.
'Thou are are just imagining it.' replied the person in question.
'Lies!' shouted someone else
'No, thou do not understand it' was replied
'Are you the traitorous one?' chimed yet another person
'No, no! Thou are mistaken!' said the person has they tried frantically defend themselves.
'Silence, traitor!' someone in the crowd shouted
'No, stop it-' were the last words before the suspicious one slumped down, a knife sticking from their back.
After inspecting the corpse, the rest of the heroes decided to take shelter for the night and continue to hunt for the traitorous ones in the morn"
Crafters have been lynched. They were:
Ilmatar - Town Vanilla
"Then the daughter of the Ether,
Now the hapless water-mother,
Raised her shoulders out of water,
Raised her knees above the ocean,
That the duck might build her dwelling,
Build her nesting-place in safety."
You are the virgin spirit of air, who got bored in the heavens and ascended to the sea. All this lead to you accidentally breaking the duck egg which caused the universe to be born. Despite being there to witness that, you do not possess any useful skills for capturing the traitorous ones.
It's now Night 1. No more talking in this thread. Please submit all night actions by 11PM GMT, Saturday 11th. (49 hours from this post.)
Please remember to sign all posts, even if your hydra consists of one person. Please post using the hydra account that has been provided to you. Please remember to vote in bold, and if possible on a separate line, to make life easier for your mods. Thank you all!
It is still night. Do not post. Night actions are due in approximately 16 and a half hours from this post. Any actions received past that point will be ignored.
The morn had broken when the first ones of the heroes woke up from their slumber. The night had seemed rather peaceful and eerily quiet. The woken heroes started to prepare the breakfast, in hopes of smell of campfire and food would wake the others up. It didn't take too long for the rest of the heroes to appear from their shelters and join the others for breakfast - except one. One of them had announced that he wanted to sleep in peace and quiet and therefore had set up his shelter bit further away from the others.
After making their way to wake the missing here, it dawned to others why he never made it to the breakfast. The place where earlier had been a shelter was now a fallen pine and underneath it remains of the shelter and the missing hero's corpse.
Masterless has been killed.
Ilmarinen the Blacksmith - Town Vanilla
"Forges skilfully the Sampo;
On one side the flour is grinding,
On another salt is making,
On a third is money forging,
And the lid is many-colored."
You are the legendary blacksmith who forged Sampo, the legendary artifact that creates gold, salt and wheat out of nothing. While you are good at forging, it won't do you any good fighting this menace of traitors.
It's now Day 2. With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch!
(EDIT: Feel free to post, Bur will update the thread title soon.)
Still want Iso/Jr to answer my questions from Yesterday.
This kind of feels like Porcelain Waltz with the super fast hammer, which really sucks since that game was an abomination. Need to reset my reads this game with Wheat flipping town.
Massive skullduggery here, could easily consider many as scum at this point.
What does this actually mean?
It meant that as someone coming into this form of mafia for this first time, it's hard to tell mafia from town because everyone is just talking crap about everyone. How can you discern one from another?
Jr
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Unvote, Vote: Flamingos
This is a policy lynch. I don't care what alignment Flamingos is, this is unacceptable.
This is also probably my last post.
-WG
I was being ironic. Posting under a hydra account supposedly means that no one knows who you really are, but I'm the only one playing this hydra so it was obvious who I was. One post later I find out that I'm supposed to be signing posts anyway, which makes it even more obvious who I am, making the joke (imo) even funnier. Sadly, explaining jokes tends to kill them, so I hope you're happy.
-Puddlejumper
I agree with both these points, and therefore lynching Family will confirm a townie one way or the other. I think that makes them a pretty awesome lynch.
Am also okay with a Crafters lynch at this point.
-Puddlejumper
OOG: I completely apologize on the behalf of my clan for doing this. I thought it would cause some giggles on the part of us and it ended turning out really badly.
Do you have any actual reasoning as to why you think that Family is scum? Lynching them to confirm a townie as opposed to lynching them for being scum is terrible.
Iso: Any follow up to your hydra questions? I'd expect a bigger reaction coming from you.
-proph
-p
Yes, that would be terrible.
I think they're scum because it feels more like they want to lynch low hanging fruit than actually find scum.
As you may now know, Megiddo, Chemtrails and Prophylaxis have been playing this game under HomaridHoney's name, flaming and trolling people. I have given them a warning regarding this behaviour and will modkill them if they will continue to do so.
Also, if you guys want to add more people to your hydra, please inform me about it, so I'll know who are playing.
Other than that, the game will continue as normal.
I was excited to see that Hunt was in it, but then I realized that Hunt was a mod and I was all alone.
Teia, were you aware that WG's question was directed to iso?
I think they're scum, yeah. Looking at the way you go "Crafters is probably scum but hey look Flamingo should be the lynch anyway" and then Crafters goes "barn, yo. Policy lynch ahoy!", I can definitely see you being a team.
-Puddlejumper
No.
- Teia
"This isn't the power of a Queen Succubus. It's just... mere violence."
I am
Arturia PendragonIlmatar. VT. I cracked an egg and made the universe or something like that.If you all decide that Crafters are scum before I get back, then good for you. I'll be back at the end of the game to laugh at whomever. I guess be weary of Family if they live through the Night as they are likely scum otherwise. Hoping EDH, Ronin and Gaymers actually post something before the Day ends.
OOG: No matter how many times Proph apologizes, it doesn't change the fact that Flamingo intentionally went against the spirit of the game by trolling and posing as a single person as 3. If I were mod, that'd definitely warrant a modkill.
-PG
That's fair. If we do see Crafters turn up scum, that point gets somewhat weaker. Although I get the sense that Crafters are scum at least partially because of their interaction with you, that would admittedly be some really aggressive bussing.
The claim changes nothing. No reason to drag out the day. Unvote, Vote Crafters
Oh well, I suppose we will see. That hammer gives me bad vibes though.
-p
1. We were town
2. You should still policy lynch Flamingo
3. Seriously, policy lynch Flamingo even if you think they're town
4. I'm pretty sure Brigade and Seppel are town.
5. The focus has been so completely on us that it's hard to tell who scum are; I'd guess Flamingo (who you should lynch anyway) and then...Limited? Hard to say when I don't remember any posts coming from EDH, Ronin, and Gaymers. I'm not certain on Family; it feels like they made a push on me they could get away with, but I might just be butthurt about it.
-WG
-PG
Massive skullduggery here, could easily consider many as scum at this point.
-WG
My favourite part about this game is how everyone goes into such detail about why they like and don't like things.
Voting after the hammer. Cool story, broseph. That's super nifty-keen of you and adds so many town points I think I'm going to have to clear you of any and all suspicion right here.
Wait...
- Teia
"This isn't the power of a Queen Succubus. It's just... mere violence."
Aren't we still in day 1? Sorry, first MTGS mafia experience, changing vote based on posts read.
Jr
All these posts talking about a hammer and ending the day and what to do tomorrow and you miss that *****? Pay some more attention, son.
- Teia
"This isn't the power of a Queen Succubus. It's just... mere violence."
My apologies, thought it was still open until the mods updated it to day 2. Learning as I go here.
Jr.
As of post #167
(5 to Lynch)
Crafters (5) - MTGS Brigade (71), Clan Flamingo (105), Masterless (107), The Family (149), Limited (154)
Clan Flamingo (2) - Crafters (132), Spirit of EDH (161)
Limited (1) - Gaymers (60)
Not Voting: Ronin
That is a lynch. It is now twilight! You may post until the lynch scene is put up.
Edit: Missed a vote previously.
lol, brand new to mafia, seemed like I violated some sort of unwritten rule, didn't want to offend anyone, you all seem like pretty seasoned mafia veterans.
~Jr
Maybe I just like people repeating themselves. The sounds of all your voices delight me so, and it'd be a tragedy not to hear them some more.
- Teia
"This isn't the power of a Queen Succubus. It's just... mere violence."
Poor selection, nice structure.
Guess you have a point there, idk maybe it's a Minnesotan thing.
Jr
Backhanded compliments aside, what I did was good play as town. I absolutely tried to bully you, but it was into actually following through on your lukewarm bussing attempt (or, I guess, if Crafters isn't trolling us, what I just read as such). Honestly, nobody but Crafters was getting lynched today anyway, all I did was force you into actually making a commitment to it.
-Puddlejumper
-Puddlejumper
I guess we'll see what happens.
scarbo
I'm highly convinced that you are scum.
scarbo
- Teia
"This isn't the power of a Queen Succubus. It's just... mere violence."
Only when the wife finds out about a large Magic purchase that I "forgot" to mention...
Jr
Spirit doesn't think so. Where's your spirit?
No. It's a game.
Jr
A couple of questions regarding this post:
1. How is the scum tactic so "brilliant"? Given that Limited is probably the scummiest person to come out of this (I also pressured him somewhat early on) this seems mostly applicable if the person you're describing it as is a brilliant scum mastermind, which (no offense) I don't feel Puddlejumper is.
2. Please articulate more on this point:
I live in Minnesota too.
It's not a Minnesota thing.
You can only make 1 post every 10 seconds.
"The first day had drawn near and night was about to fall. The heroes had traveled across many lands and lakes to reach each other and had discussed about the matter for the whole day. It was quite clear to everyone that amongst them were traitors.
The longer the discussion dragged out, the more it started to dawn to heroes present: One of them somehow seemed bit... tense and agitated.
'Why are thou so tense? Thou hath been constantly been agitated since the morn.' asked someone.
'Thou are are just imagining it.' replied the person in question.
'Lies!' shouted someone else
'No, thou do not understand it' was replied
'Are you the traitorous one?' chimed yet another person
'No, no! Thou are mistaken!' said the person has they tried frantically defend themselves.
'Silence, traitor!' someone in the crowd shouted
'No, stop it-' were the last words before the suspicious one slumped down, a knife sticking from their back.
After inspecting the corpse, the rest of the heroes decided to take shelter for the night and continue to hunt for the traitorous ones in the morn"
Crafters have been lynched. They were:
"Then the daughter of the Ether,
Now the hapless water-mother,
Raised her shoulders out of water,
Raised her knees above the ocean,
That the duck might build her dwelling,
Build her nesting-place in safety."
You are the virgin spirit of air, who got bored in the heavens and ascended to the sea. All this lead to you accidentally breaking the duck egg which caused the universe to be born. Despite being there to witness that, you do not possess any useful skills for capturing the traitorous ones.
It's now Night 1. No more talking in this thread. Please submit all night actions by 11PM GMT, Saturday 11th. (49 hours from this post.)
Please remember to sign all posts, even if your hydra consists of one person. Please post using the hydra account that has been provided to you. Please remember to vote in bold, and if possible on a separate line, to make life easier for your mods. Thank you all!
It is still night. Do not post. Night actions are due in approximately 16 and a half hours from this post. Any actions received past that point will be ignored.
The morn had broken when the first ones of the heroes woke up from their slumber. The night had seemed rather peaceful and eerily quiet. The woken heroes started to prepare the breakfast, in hopes of smell of campfire and food would wake the others up. It didn't take too long for the rest of the heroes to appear from their shelters and join the others for breakfast - except one. One of them had announced that he wanted to sleep in peace and quiet and therefore had set up his shelter bit further away from the others.
After making their way to wake the missing here, it dawned to others why he never made it to the breakfast. The place where earlier had been a shelter was now a fallen pine and underneath it remains of the shelter and the missing hero's corpse.
Masterless has been killed.
Ilmarinen the Blacksmith - Town Vanilla
"Forges skilfully the Sampo;
On one side the flour is grinding,
On another salt is making,
On a third is money forging,
And the lid is many-colored."
You are the legendary blacksmith who forged Sampo, the legendary artifact that creates gold, salt and wheat out of nothing. While you are good at forging, it won't do you any good fighting this menace of traitors.
It's now Day 2. With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch!
(EDIT: Feel free to post, Bur will update the thread title soon.)
This kind of feels like Porcelain Waltz with the super fast hammer, which really sucks since that game was an abomination. Need to reset my reads this game with Wheat flipping town.
-p
-Sepi
"This isn't the power of a Queen Succubus. It's just... mere violence."
Ronin's V/LA ends Monday (= today).
It meant that as someone coming into this form of mafia for this first time, it's hard to tell mafia from town because everyone is just talking crap about everyone. How can you discern one from another?
Jr