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My speed needs improvement or Lure won't do crap against anyone. I think that's the main reason why I'm still around, whoever is in play and is guilty has a better speed rating than me.
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Wouldn't Stealth negate the effects of Level X dance?
It removes the first damaging ability used on you, does it not?
I wouldn't think cythare would target you, if you're scum you'd just use that ability. If not, we're short a person who was town. But not all actions to date have been fully reasoned out so I suppose it's possible.
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i was thinking that maybe sins is scum and that the NPC had an attack action last night, but then i realized that Sins also made another NPC last night and that means it could not have been solely Sins thats responsible if at all.
This sadly brings me to Jskura as a possibility because of his claimed meteor.
The problem is jskura having killed the malboro... under a "1 last fiend" scenario it makes no sense... under a "2 fiends remaining" scenario however it makes sense... (this refers to skura being scum)
KK is still a solid choice in my books (aside: i got no idea what your ttyl means... im working under the assumption of "Take That You Loser"... in which case... rude...)
At this point im confident i can shoot most people down to a win, the fact i wasnt auto killed and my current health status is what makes me think both KK and Skura are good choices...
Ok here is my gambit, if someone catches something please let me know:
1. When i revived i knew i would have only 1HP (check HP's Life claim)
2. Seppel message me telling me because of OoA i should be allowed to spend my SP
3. I insta bumped my HP and Attack (so I would revive with 11HP and 4Attack, with 60 Max HP)
4. HP status was critical
5. On Night 11 i bumped HP and Attack so i would be Max HP: 70, 5 Atk and 21 current HP if nothing had happened to me, my status would also have been upgraded to Poor
6. Day 12 arrives and my stats of Night 11 are accurate (i only cant account for the current HP)
7. That means i was at 70 Max HP, 5 Atk and Poor condition, this tells me that scum either didnt try to hit me or tried to hit me for what they thought was enough to kill me, and that was not enough to change my status from Poor to Critical (at 21 current HP i would have needed at least 4 damage to go into critical since 25% of 70 is 17.5).
8. This is why im thinking those of you with low spells such as skura, Kami, Pizza or KK could be the likely scum.
Thoughts anyone?
For full disclosure im still at Poor but i did bump HP last Night.
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I will admit, it looks really bad on me, especially because of Meteor, and the fact that I used Stealth last night because I thought the leveling came before the actions (which would have put me at 20, and I would rather not have been hit for 100 by Cyth)
That being said, does anyone even have a clue what HPs health was at prior to last night? Because even at level 4, meteor is only doing 2 damage to 3 targets, and there is 0 reason for me to be using it at this point anyway.
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Meteor seems like it's designed to take out multiple targets with low health, which explains how easily we lost people who were revived and also why Hookerpunch wasn't prioritized as a murder target. They could just remove the revived person no problem. That got countered whenever someone stopped the small amount of damage on the revived target, Sepiriel, or the person doing it was busy that night.
Stealth's function is an obvious counter to X Dance and Throw and etc. Since it can counter one, but not both, Cythare and Sepiriel should both target Jskura tonight.
Steal allows one to gain points like speed and attack more rapidly while also improving one's Hit Points or other abilities.
The entire move set is a scum move set, and Jskura should be eliminated as a priority. KoolKoal is my second choice and is also a viable day target, but given what Stealth can do, you might want to damage Jskura by day.
Those are my top 2. Bur's a distant third simply because he coasted after the early goodwill from countering Wheat, and got more involved around the time that Dante got caught, didn't like the mass claim idea, and has been disappearing into the background a bit more.
That being said, that's a lot weaker.
Mister Sins? I doubt it. I honestly don't get the impression that he cares that much about the game and if he's been in the know all this time, he'd have a better understanding of how to counter the accusations coming his way by day and also probably not have completely missed the planned action that night that involved him protecting Sepiriel.
I mean, I guess. But there's probably not enough time to have 4 suspects. So if I'm doing a top 3, it kind of includes Bur, but really the main 2 suspects are J and Kool. Kool could have at least targeted Bur to copy that ability, or hit a suspect.
That's the part that's messing with my head. He'd HAVE to know claiming to do nothing would stick out like a sore thumb. That sounds like something a scumbag would know is ill-advised to say, but a townie would simply be truthful about.
It's bad play, and it's scummy looking, but it doesn't match a strategic mindset.
Meteor seems like it's designed to take out multiple targets with low health, which explains how easily we lost people who were revived and also why Hookerpunch wasn't prioritized as a murder target. They could just remove the revived person no problem. That got countered whenever someone stopped the small amount of damage on the revived target, Sepiriel, or the person doing it was busy that night.
Stealth's function is an obvious counter to X Dance and Throw and etc. Since it can counter one, but not both, Cythare and Sepiriel should both target Jskura tonight.
Steal allows one to gain points like speed and attack more rapidly while also improving one's Hit Points or other abilities.
The entire move set is a scum move set, and Jskura should be eliminated as a priority. KoolKoal is my second choice and is also a viable day target, but given what Stealth can do, you might want to damage Jskura by day.
Those are my top 2. Bur's a distant third simply because he coasted after the early goodwill from countering Wheat, and got more involved around the time that Dante got caught, didn't like the mass claim idea, and has been disappearing into the background a bit more.
That being said, that's a lot weaker.
Mister Sins? I doubt it. I honestly don't get the impression that he cares that much about the game and if he's been in the know all this time, he'd have a better understanding of how to counter the accusations coming his way by day and also probably not have completely missed the planned action that night that involved him protecting Sepiriel.
I mean, I guess. But there's probably not enough time to have 4 suspects. So if I'm doing a top 3, it kind of includes Bur, but really the main 2 suspects are J and Kool. Kool could have at least targeted Bur to copy that ability, or hit a suspect.
That's the part that's messing with my head. He'd HAVE to know claiming to do nothing would stick out like a sore thumb. That sounds like something a scumbag would know is ill-advised to say, but a townie would simply be truthful about.
It's bad play, and it's scummy looking, but it doesn't match a strategic mindset.
You know what, just do it already. I am so sick and tired of explaining WHY MODGAMING THIS DAMN GAME IS A TERRIBLE IDEA. I'm done doing it. Go ahead and just kill me already and then I can laugh in your faces because you wont have a goddamned idea who to kill once I flip town.
Watch, I can do it too!
Cyth, you have an ability that can instant kill people under the right conditions? You must be scum since that is basically a NK!
MrSins, you can make NPCs that can attack people without an identity? You must be scum since you are hiding actions behind the NPC!
Bur, you have an ability that makes it so your scumbuddies can do their actions before everyone else! You must be scum!
KA, you can give yourself a two attacks! Just means you can kill townies that much quicker. You must be scum!
KK, you have an ability that will damage any town that attacks you! You must be scum!
Sep, you have an ability that can deal at least 20% of someones health in one night! Even though you are confirmed town, you must be scum!
Proph, you have an abilty that slowly kills someone without anyone noticing much! Even though you are confirmed town, you must be scum too!
Pizza, you have an ability that prevents people from targeting your scumbuddies! You must be scum!!
DO YOU NOT SEE HOW STUPID THAT LINE OF THINKING IS?
I'm done defending against it since THERE IS NO DEFENCE.
If there is only 1 scum left, IT CANT BE ME and people should be focusing in on finding that person. IF the game didnt end when that person died, then fine, I *could* be a suspect.
Either way, just kill me already. A wall would have more sense about this.
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Actually HP had mentioned before his Health when he claimed, and if i recall there are at least... 2-3 instances i think when you didnt use Steal? so from that mindset it makes sense for you to have used Meteor in those days (im not saying its you but its not like the theory has no merit whatsoever).
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Actually HP had mentioned before his Health when he claimed, and if i recall there are at least... 2-3 instances i think when you didnt use Steal? so from that mindset it makes sense for you to have used Meteor in those days (im not saying its you but its not like the theory has no merit whatsoever).
No points or comments on how i survived N11? or on the actions i claimed? or on my thoughts regarding scum night damage?
Oh, right. You raised your HP. You are scum!
I already outlined numerous times why I cant be the 4th scum and I am tired of repeating myself to people that dont give a damn about actually wanting to win.
I'm done playing with people that cant be bothered to:
1) Read the goddamned game (and even have the gall to admit it)
2) Cant be bothered to use logic to solve the game, and want to just rely on something that was randomly assigned by the mod that has no bearing at all on alignment.
Decide whether you are going to believe Sins or KK about Vezok and Flare, and then kill the other one.
Cyth, I'm not submitting a night action tonight, and I am level 20. Please just kill me.
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I hope you are aware jskura that i have been the biggest pusher for both KK and Sins at any given point this game, as well as being the one person who still finds you unlikely to be scum... so yeah a chill pill is really recommended here.
And again... no comments on my breakdown/assumptions of N11?
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I hope you are aware jskura that i have been the biggest pusher for both KK and Sins at any given point this game, as well as being the one person who still finds you unlikely to be scum... so yeah a chill pill is really recommended here.
And again... no comments on my breakdown/assumptions of N11?
At this point im confident i can shoot most people down to a win, the fact i wasnt auto killed and my current health status is what makes me think both KK and Skura are good choices...
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At this point, I'm tired of being called stupid. There you go.
I call em like I see em.
BTW, I have Good HP atm and Max 70.
Considering KA doesnt have 2 attacks, attacking me during the day will not kill me and I am honestly done with this game. Enjoy seeing how right I am when Day 14 starts
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We don't know each other, but, we've spent several months playing a game and getting to know a little bit of each other through that context.
Maybe this is the only game we ever play together. Maybe it's not, maybe we play more.
But regardless of that, I only play these games to have fun, and also to meet new folks. That's why I'm sitting next to a very lovely woman right now, in fact, because this is a great networking medium.
I understand the competitive nature of the game. Trust me, I've flipped my lid at some outcomes I thought were unfair, or, mod rulings which were bizarre to my mind. Or folks behaving inappropriately during play, or one game where a dude sabotaged his entire scum team because he failed to think about the strategic implications of his actions. I've seen people deliberately rulebreak, and I've seen people leave in a huff and never return.
This game makes folks upset, sometimes. Because there's tension and sometimes you're called a liar, essentially.
But that's just it, it's like a game of poker. Someone will consider what you're doing is a bluff, from time to time. Perhaps every hand. Or in this case, every game.
You shouldn't take it personally if someone finds you to be the most likely to be guilty, or to probably be lying about what you're doing.
Right or wrong.
Also, you must remember, it's a guessing game. And, for a guessing game to be fun, it has to be okay for folks to be wrong if you're a townie, or right "for the wrong reasons" if you're scum.
Those things have to be okay, and for you to not think less of someone's intellect for making such a guess.
You can't let it get personal.
That's why I ask everyone in a game to please keep it within those lines.
I'm not mad at you, I just wish you'd rethink your position on calling folks stupid. It's not adding to the game and rather than change minds, it makes folks dig in even more.
People can be stubborn like that.
After the game, I'd virtually shake your hand and say good game. But if we've had harsh words with one another, that's less likely.
So, let's aim for a better result, win or lose. That's my goal.
You don't have to respond to this post, it's not about right or wrong or winning or losing. Just keep it in mind, that's all I'm asking.
We pressured some guilty folks together and we brought down Garland. If I'm wrong about you, and we lose, I will still look back on that and remember that.
That was fun.
If you're scum, you played a hell of a game, and I don't blame you for getting upset here, at the end, when you're pretty close to beating whatever remains.
If you're town, I am having trouble piecing together the scum team. I can't solve it without another flip, I don't think.
Maybe I am rusty but I don't see what the solution can be unless it's just really one guy left with the ability to do several things, or hit multiple people per night.
If it's not in the options we've already examined, then I don't know where to look or what the next guess would be.
Thanks!
Sadly, my Enemy Skill does not target anyone. When I use it, I'll gain lvl 5 copy of all skills that target me that night.
Attack: Koolkoal
As a reminder, my Enemy Skill will resolve at "Everything else" at SPD 5, so any ability that resolves at SPD 5 won't be copied by it.
Well, that is disappointing indeed.
Still in time though.
Attack: KoolKoal
@Rhand: My PMs only mention being boosted Night 9.
Feel free to target me, I don't have 1 in anything.
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Prophylaxis was a level 16 Black Mage Time Mage
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Sepiriel attacks KoolKoal (4677)
HookerPunch attacks KoolKoal (4688)
Jskura attacks Defenseless_Puppy_NPC (4702)
Bur attacks KoolKoal (4706)
Mistersins attacks KoolKoal (4708)
Defenseless_Puppy_NPC attacks KoolKoal (4710)
KoolKoal randomly attacks MisterSins!
Rhand rhandomly attacks HookerPunch!
Night actions due in 36 hours!
Rhand has been killed! He was a level 13 Blue Mage Black Mage
HookerPunch has been killed! She was a level 13 White Mage Dancer
Prophylaxis has been revived.
Puppy_Eater_NPC has entered the game.
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My speed needs improvement or Lure won't do crap against anyone. I think that's the main reason why I'm still around, whoever is in play and is guilty has a better speed rating than me.
Defenseless_Puppy_NPC was a level 3 monster.
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Also I still think KK is town.
Curious to know who Cyth decided to target last night since I pretty much said I was going to be level 20
It removes the first damaging ability used on you, does it not?
I wouldn't think cythare would target you, if you're scum you'd just use that ability. If not, we're short a person who was town. But not all actions to date have been fully reasoned out so I suppose it's possible.
There are only a couple ways to explain HP and Rhand dying on the same night
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Ah. I guess that makes sense. I dont really pay attention to when the level happens since I am just looking at stats
More to come when I come home.
@Cyth: You did NOTHING last night? i thought you had Cure...
@Kami: State your Night Actions
This sadly brings me to Jskura as a possibility because of his claimed meteor.
The problem is jskura having killed the malboro... under a "1 last fiend" scenario it makes no sense... under a "2 fiends remaining" scenario however it makes sense... (this refers to skura being scum)
KK is still a solid choice in my books (aside: i got no idea what your ttyl means... im working under the assumption of "Take That You Loser"... in which case... rude...)
At this point im confident i can shoot most people down to a win, the fact i wasnt auto killed and my current health status is what makes me think both KK and Skura are good choices...
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Ok here is my gambit, if someone catches something please let me know:
1. When i revived i knew i would have only 1HP (check HP's Life claim)
2. Seppel message me telling me because of OoA i should be allowed to spend my SP
3. I insta bumped my HP and Attack (so I would revive with 11HP and 4Attack, with 60 Max HP)
4. HP status was critical
5. On Night 11 i bumped HP and Attack so i would be Max HP: 70, 5 Atk and 21 current HP if nothing had happened to me, my status would also have been upgraded to Poor
6. Day 12 arrives and my stats of Night 11 are accurate (i only cant account for the current HP)
7. That means i was at 70 Max HP, 5 Atk and Poor condition, this tells me that scum either didnt try to hit me or tried to hit me for what they thought was enough to kill me, and that was not enough to change my status from Poor to Critical (at 21 current HP i would have needed at least 4 damage to go into critical since 25% of 70 is 17.5).
8. This is why im thinking those of you with low spells such as skura, Kami, Pizza or KK could be the likely scum.
Thoughts anyone?
For full disclosure im still at Poor but i did bump HP last Night.
That being said, does anyone even have a clue what HPs health was at prior to last night? Because even at level 4, meteor is only doing 2 damage to 3 targets, and there is 0 reason for me to be using it at this point anyway.
Stealth's function is an obvious counter to X Dance and Throw and etc. Since it can counter one, but not both, Cythare and Sepiriel should both target Jskura tonight.
Steal allows one to gain points like speed and attack more rapidly while also improving one's Hit Points or other abilities.
The entire move set is a scum move set, and Jskura should be eliminated as a priority. KoolKoal is my second choice and is also a viable day target, but given what Stealth can do, you might want to damage Jskura by day.
Those are my top 2. Bur's a distant third simply because he coasted after the early goodwill from countering Wheat, and got more involved around the time that Dante got caught, didn't like the mass claim idea, and has been disappearing into the background a bit more.
That being said, that's a lot weaker.
Mister Sins? I doubt it. I honestly don't get the impression that he cares that much about the game and if he's been in the know all this time, he'd have a better understanding of how to counter the accusations coming his way by day and also probably not have completely missed the planned action that night that involved him protecting Sepiriel.
I mean, I guess. But there's probably not enough time to have 4 suspects. So if I'm doing a top 3, it kind of includes Bur, but really the main 2 suspects are J and Kool. Kool could have at least targeted Bur to copy that ability, or hit a suspect.
That's the part that's messing with my head. He'd HAVE to know claiming to do nothing would stick out like a sore thumb. That sounds like something a scumbag would know is ill-advised to say, but a townie would simply be truthful about.
It's bad play, and it's scummy looking, but it doesn't match a strategic mindset.
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You know what, just do it already. I am so sick and tired of explaining WHY MODGAMING THIS DAMN GAME IS A TERRIBLE IDEA. I'm done doing it. Go ahead and just kill me already and then I can laugh in your faces because you wont have a goddamned idea who to kill once I flip town.
Watch, I can do it too!
Cyth, you have an ability that can instant kill people under the right conditions? You must be scum since that is basically a NK!
MrSins, you can make NPCs that can attack people without an identity? You must be scum since you are hiding actions behind the NPC!
Bur, you have an ability that makes it so your scumbuddies can do their actions before everyone else! You must be scum!
KA, you can give yourself a two attacks! Just means you can kill townies that much quicker. You must be scum!
KK, you have an ability that will damage any town that attacks you! You must be scum!
Sep, you have an ability that can deal at least 20% of someones health in one night! Even though you are confirmed town, you must be scum!
Proph, you have an abilty that slowly kills someone without anyone noticing much! Even though you are confirmed town, you must be scum too!
Pizza, you have an ability that prevents people from targeting your scumbuddies! You must be scum!!
DO YOU NOT SEE HOW STUPID THAT LINE OF THINKING IS?
I'm done defending against it since THERE IS NO DEFENCE.
If there is only 1 scum left, IT CANT BE ME and people should be focusing in on finding that person. IF the game didnt end when that person died, then fine, I *could* be a suspect.
Either way, just kill me already. A wall would have more sense about this.
Attack MrSins
No points or comments on how i survived N11? or on the actions i claimed? or on my thoughts regarding scum night damage?
Oh, right. You raised your HP. You are scum!
I already outlined numerous times why I cant be the 4th scum and I am tired of repeating myself to people that dont give a damn about actually wanting to win.
I'm done playing with people that cant be bothered to:
1) Read the goddamned game (and even have the gall to admit it)
2) Cant be bothered to use logic to solve the game, and want to just rely on something that was randomly assigned by the mod that has no bearing at all on alignment.
Decide whether you are going to believe Sins or KK about Vezok and Flare, and then kill the other one.
Cyth, I'm not submitting a night action tonight, and I am level 20. Please just kill me.
And again... no comments on my breakdown/assumptions of N11?
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Defenseless_Puppy_NPC was a level 3 monster.
Oh, you are actually deciding to READ the game Today? Congrats!
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Lets play a little game shall we. What is the importance of this post?
And I will even be sporting and give a MAJOR HINT about it. It has to do with this post:
And here, I will even give you the first post of Day 14:
Feel free to quote it verbatim.
I wouldnt count on me posting too many more useful things. Talking to walls is pointless and I refuse to waste my time doing that now.
Stealth will negate your level X dance, and if there are 2 scumbags remaining, this guarantees that the other one will not die.
Cyth, hit the other scumbag, whoever it is, tonight. This comment seems designed to specifically draw your dance, so don't.
At this point, I'm tired of being called stupid. There you go.
I call em like I see em.
BTW, I have Good HP atm and Max 70.
Considering KA doesnt have 2 attacks, attacking me during the day will not kill me and I am honestly done with this game. Enjoy seeing how right I am when Day 14 starts
If he flips town or if the game doesn't end then we re-evaluate the game.
Oh good, the sheep are here. I was having an issue sleeping anyway.
Town is going to end up losing because most of them cant seem to have their own ideas amd they just barn whatever seems useful
jskura: Even though it's like a century since you last played do you have any scum games?
I'm looking at Bur/KA for POE if jskura flips town, as they have the weakest reasoning as to why they're cleared.
Like. You're saying that modgaming this game is a terrible idea, but almost all of your posts on this page have been about mechanics.
Can you step away from mechanics and go back to solid behavior?
J, step away from the game for one second.
We don't know each other, but, we've spent several months playing a game and getting to know a little bit of each other through that context.
Maybe this is the only game we ever play together. Maybe it's not, maybe we play more.
But regardless of that, I only play these games to have fun, and also to meet new folks. That's why I'm sitting next to a very lovely woman right now, in fact, because this is a great networking medium.
I understand the competitive nature of the game. Trust me, I've flipped my lid at some outcomes I thought were unfair, or, mod rulings which were bizarre to my mind. Or folks behaving inappropriately during play, or one game where a dude sabotaged his entire scum team because he failed to think about the strategic implications of his actions. I've seen people deliberately rulebreak, and I've seen people leave in a huff and never return.
This game makes folks upset, sometimes. Because there's tension and sometimes you're called a liar, essentially.
But that's just it, it's like a game of poker. Someone will consider what you're doing is a bluff, from time to time. Perhaps every hand. Or in this case, every game.
You shouldn't take it personally if someone finds you to be the most likely to be guilty, or to probably be lying about what you're doing.
Right or wrong.
Also, you must remember, it's a guessing game. And, for a guessing game to be fun, it has to be okay for folks to be wrong if you're a townie, or right "for the wrong reasons" if you're scum.
Those things have to be okay, and for you to not think less of someone's intellect for making such a guess.
You can't let it get personal.
That's why I ask everyone in a game to please keep it within those lines.
I'm not mad at you, I just wish you'd rethink your position on calling folks stupid. It's not adding to the game and rather than change minds, it makes folks dig in even more.
People can be stubborn like that.
After the game, I'd virtually shake your hand and say good game. But if we've had harsh words with one another, that's less likely.
So, let's aim for a better result, win or lose. That's my goal.
You don't have to respond to this post, it's not about right or wrong or winning or losing. Just keep it in mind, that's all I'm asking.
That was fun.
If you're scum, you played a hell of a game, and I don't blame you for getting upset here, at the end, when you're pretty close to beating whatever remains.
If you're town, I am having trouble piecing together the scum team. I can't solve it without another flip, I don't think.
Maybe I am rusty but I don't see what the solution can be unless it's just really one guy left with the ability to do several things, or hit multiple people per night.
If it's not in the options we've already examined, then I don't know where to look or what the next guess would be.