If by 'ignore each other all game' you mean that Kami never made the following posts, tnen sure:
Cyan is one of the best players in MTGS. If he does something that looks dumb for a townie, it's almost certainly a scum slip-up. That said, he's not being dumb here. imab's response is basically just "nuh-uh", and I'm pretty sure there's a misrep in there - Cyan didn't say imab's vote was bad because it was serious, he said imab's vote was bad because it was piling on after another RVS vote.
Cyan, you had a "slight" scum read on KJ, and you said that you didn't have a solid judgement. Now you say he's much more likely than imab. What changed?
Ironically, I am actually less impressed with KA because of this question, and his follow up, and then him flatly calling KJ town. But that is me putting the horse before the cart, so.
Also, I declared multiple other people town in the SAME POST as I did Kami. And you haven't taken any issue with that. So..are you putting any work into this at all? Because really, it just seems like you're making it up as you go, trying to get anything to stick. And that is not town behavior.
I have a mild town read on ZDS. Someone tell me why I'm wrong. Cyan doesn't count because I don't trust him.
Considering that most of the people voting him have not actually put forth anything remotely resembling a case, I'm not sure what exactly you're expecting here. Also, you could just go read his posts. It's only Day 1, there aren't THAT many.
@WG: Why do you think Sir Chris is scum? Why has every scum read you've had this game just been barning someone else?
Unless I remember wrong, I was the first one on Chris. See post 96.
I'm on Chris because he sounds like an outsider. Many of his posts feel like he's on the outside looking in, and that's a scum mentality. Again, see post 96 for details.
You're right, you were early onto Chris. I didn't realize this because your entire reason behind voting him was 'I really dislike Chris' posts. He's just so...terribly uninvested. He feels like he's a spectator.' This seems pretty similar to why people didn't like Chris in The Wall 2, and..he was town there. Is there anything else/more specific about his posting that you don't like?
You also commented on how you would have been willing to vote for myself or Plow, but 'Cyan's wagon is popular enough right now, a lot of people are also on Plowshares' case already too'.
Since when is this a good reason to NOT vote for someone? Since when is starting competing wagons a good thing to do when you're fine with the multiple existing wagons already?
This rings true tbh. Wheat seems overly cautious. vote wheatgrinder
Ima:
You asked KA what his thoughts were on Cyan saying a lot of people were acting scummy, and whether he thought that was genuine. My question for you is: What does KA's answer tell you about him? After he answers, I'd also like to know what you think about your own question.
I actually don't need KA's answer. He's non-response in this instance was all I needed to know. I know there's been a lot of usage of tells and discussion of them. Some of them are accurate some of them are not. KA makes an awkward RVS to Cyan using "for the motherland" language. Huntzilla and Cantrip call it out immediately and eventually I understand why it's awkward as well. Scum will sometimes make pointless or fake RVS towards each other so that they don't actually have to make a contribution at the start of the game. This is the same reason why RVS to someone not in the game is a tell. Anyway after that point KAMI and Cyan both immediately pounce on me for ***** reasons. Cyan makes crap reason and Kami immediately back him up. I ask Kami some questions that he dodges around. After that they ignore each other completely. What caught my eye was Cyan calling Kami a strong townread based on absolutely no interactions and no buildup.
My question to Kami and then my question to Cyan was to literally try and pit them against each other. Kami and Cyan both absolutely skirted the questions even though they were both designed to pit them against each other. If you look at the game there have been a lot of townreads being thrown out early. Faster than I've ever seen personally. So when Cyan says "too many people are acting scummy" it really doesn't feel genuine. AND here is where I consider outside influence too. Several players have commented on the suposed skill of Cyan. If Cyan is this transcendent scum hunter he should be able to separate the "anti-town/bad town" from scum. I've seen phenomenal players. They do it all the time. So part of reason for the question is that Cyan is quite literally not living up to the hype.
I'm not sure what you mean by "what do you think about your own question". They're damn fine ones but obviously I'm biased.
Sorry, let me rephrase.
What do you think of Cyan for saying a lot of people are scummy? Do you think he's being genuine there?
ZDS:
You say you see Chris's meta-defense as genuine. Why does it seem genuine, since just saying "I don't see a scum!PERSONANAMEHERE" because he's not his scum meta isn't particularly difficult to fake.
And if you think he's not faking his meta defense, why are you voting Chris as of that post? You think scum would make that argument, beleive it, but end up null after all that?
Kamikaze already asked about this. See here for the answer.
I don't understand the last sentence. If Chris is scum he should have a pretty good idea what Cyan's alignment is. It's not a matter of belief or of ending up anywhere; it's role knowledge.
Re: Your reads: What are your opinions on Blindfaeth, Seppel and Hawk? (you didn't mention them)
Did you? Your response was: It would be incredibly (easy?) for scum-Chris to not see meta-scumtells coming from town-Cyan. As easy as reading his role PM and not bothering with thinking about Cyan at all.
One word added by me, since you omitted it.
First you're assuming a town!Cyan. Why can't they be scum together? Just because you think Cyan is town does not make Chris genuine. I was really hoping for like a tone thing, or something more concrete than "he could have just ignored him."
Re: last sentence: You're voting Chris, so you think he's scum. I'm just not sure how you can think he's scum!Chris AND be making an argument that ends with a null read in this case. By your logic, scum!Chris ignores Cyan. Why would scum!Chris instead make a meta-defense, then come to a null conclusion instead?
And Re: my reads: Seppel is Seppel. He literally could be playing like this as either alignment. More time is needed before I conclude here.
Faeth is probably town. He's giving off newb town vibes.
Hawk I feel like when he's scum he's a lot more obvious than he is now. So lean town.
New plan: I think that we're ready to end this day, so we should just go ahead and lynch somebody.
Vote: ZDS
He's probably scum--unless he's not.
I dislike this. Hans posted this first, ok. Seppel copied it, which is typical Seppel.
Hunt doesn't normally do this though. This feels like sheeping two better players to blend in, possibly.
I have a mild town read on ZDS. Someone tell me why I'm wrong. Cyan doesn't count because I don't trust him.
Considering that most of the people voting him have not actually put forth anything remotely resembling a case, I'm not sure what exactly you're expecting here. Also, you could just go read his posts. It's only Day 1, there aren't THAT many.
Hi. You literally ignored all my questions.
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What is Chris doing that makes him remind you of his town self? Also how good of a player do you think he is? How well do you think he fakes his town meta?
What about our interactions says one of me and ZDS are likely scum? Edit: now you think we're both scum. Why?
Hm. When Ima says you cleared Kami based on nothing, your response was "So dumb". IIRC you haven't interacted with him at all this game. Why is he a strong town read?
Why would scum!ZDS put himself so far out there to do damage control this early? Isn't this sort of antibussing a bad idea in general?
Wait, you think I'm scum for barning ZDS? Because of the Wall? Explain that, please. Who did I barn in the Wall?
Also, if I'm so scum, why aren't you voting me?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
@WG: Why do you think Sir Chris is scum? Why has every scum read you've had this game just been barning someone else?
Unless I remember wrong, I was the first one on Chris. See post 96.
I'm on Chris because he sounds like an outsider. Many of his posts feel like he's on the outside looking in, and that's a scum mentality. Again, see post 96 for details.
You're right, you were early onto Chris. I didn't realize this because your entire reason behind voting him was 'I really dislike Chris' posts. He's just so...terribly uninvested. He feels like he's a spectator.' This seems pretty similar to why people didn't like Chris in The Wall 2, and..he was town there. Is there anything else/more specific about his posting that you don't like?
You also commented on how you would have been willing to vote for myself or Plow, but 'Cyan's wagon is popular enough right now, a lot of people are also on Plowshares' case already too'.
Since when is this a good reason to NOT vote for someone? Since when is starting competing wagons a good thing to do when you're fine with the multiple existing wagons already?
This rings true tbh. Wheat seems overly cautious. vote wheatgrinder
I said this a while ago. Stop trying to be cool by following the master Vote Wheat
Also I don't think BF is scum just because of his cautiousness/politeness I seem to remember someone saying that he is, but I think cautiousness/politeness is a playstyle thing.
Goddamnit, I typed out a response to you and then lost it. Erghhhhhhhhhhhh. Starting over then.
Did you? Your response was: It would be incredibly (easy?) for scum-Chris to not see meta-scumtells coming from town-Cyan. As easy as reading his role PM and not bothering with thinking about Cyan at all.
One word added by me, since you omitted it.
First you're assuming a town!Cyan. Why can't they be scum together? Just because you think Cyan is town does not make Chris genuine. I was really hoping for like a tone thing, or something more concrete than "he could have just ignored him."
Re: last sentence: You're voting Chris, so you think he's scum. I'm just not sure how you can think he's scum!Chris AND be making an argument that ends with a null read in this case. By your logic, scum!Chris ignores Cyan. Why would scum!Chris instead make a meta-defense, then come to a null conclusion instead?
This feels completely like one scum talking to another.
And I didn't ignore your questions, I just haven't felt like answering them yet. I'm also severely bothered by Kami being so quick to declare you town, but then he did the same thing for me so..yeah..
What is Chris doing that makes him remind you of his town self? Also how good of a player do you think he is? How well do you think he fakes his town meta?
He has a certain snarkiness/flippant nature to his posts as town that he doesn't really have as scum. I feel like he has somewhat exhibited that in this game. Enough so that I'm not interested in lynching him just now, and at least want to give it time and see what progresses. It's also worth noting that, the last time he was scum, he seemed like the most obvious of obvious townies..which certainly is NOT the case this game.
What about our interactions says one of me and ZDS are likely scum? Edit: now you think we're both scum. Why?
I mostly answered this already, but the way that you address ZDS in the post I quoted above only reinforces this notion for me.
Hm. When Ima says you cleared Kami based on nothing, your response was "So dumb". IIRC you haven't interacted with him at all this game. Why is he a strong town read?
Kami defended my posts in a way that I wouldn't expect a scum to do(though I'm hedging on this now that he has also defended you). And I declared multiple people as town reads, not just Kami. Lastly, I did not 'clear' Kami. This is a very poor choice of words on your part that I feel is probably intentional. I declared a town read on him. Town reads can change.
Why would scum!ZDS put himself so far out there to do damage control this early? Isn't this sort of antibussing a bad idea in general?
Well, according to Seppel, this is something ZDS does as scum. And I'm not even sure it really gets held against a person on MTGS these days. I defended your Bomb claim in Wall 2 and no one ever really cared.
Wait, you think I'm scum for barning ZDS? Because of the Wall? Explain that, please. Who did I barn in the Wall?
You followed my lead on masterplum and antny both in that game.
Also, if I'm so scum, why aren't you voting me?
Because ZDS probably has to be scum for you to be scum, and he will be the more difficult of you two to get lynched as the game progresses.
I have never seen such a flawless scum game, you have no idea. I killed him as the SK because he was just that obviously town. And I did cite another reason, which is that his general demeanor in this game is closer to what I've seen from him as town than as scum.
P. sure wheat is scum. His rvs vote and lack of direction with his posts. At least it seems that way to me. I believe that although he is pushing chris as scum, critics of his read have also appeared as scum, He (WG) realizes he has not pushed for a wagon on his preferred lynch. I know, I know can't people explore mult. avs? Yes, but if we accept multitasking then the reverse is also true why cant wg push his preferred wagon and pressure mult. ppl?
I do/can see how some of wg posts make sense from a town persp. I am unsure of voting today(?) Like if I had more time I would most likely/hopefully find a scum read I am more comfortable/confident with/in.
I believe hunt is town and cant too.
I would posts a lot more but going through some things and the mobile site is terrible (I'm usually on the go).
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Cyan (1): imabusinessman
imabusinessman (2): Plowshares, KamikazeArchon
Burning_Earth2 (1): Sir Chris
ZeDorkSlippeur (4): Cyan, 7hawk77, hansanator, Huntzilla
Plowshares (0):
Sir Chris (2): Wheat_Grinder, Killjoy
Wheat_Grinder (3): Cantripmancer, Blindfaeth, Burning_Earth2
7hawk77 (0):
KamikazeArchon (2): ZeDorkSlippeur, Seppel
Blindfaeth(0):
hansanator(0):
Seppel(0):
Roowastaken(0):
Killjoy(0):
Cantripmancer(0):
Huntzilla(0):
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Not voting(1): Roowastaken Deadline: May 22
With 16 alive, it's 9 to lynch!
Speaking of Burning_Earth, did you conclude anything from your exchange on page 3?
BE doesn't appear to think about anything he says. His statements don't really make a lot of sense in regards to me and they are always woefully shallow. He just pops in, says random things at random times, and then pops out. I find him very frustrating to read because I don't know if he simply isn't passing the intelligence test or if he is faking that sentiment as scum and playing it up. Personally I think he is playing it up. It was very... interesting that he chose to cite a past game like that. That kind of ability to self-meta isn't the mark of someone who has displayed his level of play so far, which has been poor. It's like here you go, I can act like my town self as scum easily! See proof now!
KJ -
You just are wrong about your opinion about opinions, here. Like I did give analysis about Cyan. It was just to the point. Like I have an opinion about Cyan. It just wasn't an opinion you liked. You wanted it more away from the fence. When asked I have elaborated on that opinion each time and put more words into a simple read than I thought possible because people just don't seem to get it. It confuses you guys, or something. Like if on this current page you can look at all I've said about Cyan and conclude none of it is analysis then I mean okay. We're playing different games, then.
Also I don't think that Cyan is not worthy of notice. I read everything Cyan says and for good reason, it just isn't suspicious, apart for when he tried to hand wave me which I bit his arm off for.
Also the agenda that I have is being honest with my views. Like every game it seems like people get on my case for stuff kind of like this. You asked me about Cyan, I answered about Cyan, you for whatever reason thought this was some kind of conspiracy answer when really it was simple. Like you know what? I'm done talking about Cyan of the past. I'll comment on current Cyan stuff from now on, but I've explained myself enough. If you don't think so, lead a lynch on me. So read my several posts I've made about Cyan, and if you are unhappy explain what exactly makes it unhappy or get over it.
As for the other two questions I have not been lynched as scum on this site, I have been scum in only one game, Wu-tang, where Cyan poisoned me. I have not been neutral. I have never played with ZDS before.
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Anyway I know KA well enough to know he is capable of better than the meager efforts he has given so far, as outlined by ZDS on this page. I'm interested in seeing more from him as well.
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1) He's voting businessman since post #50, but has done nothing to push against him, or against anyone for that matter.
Misrep #1. I've been pushing against imab; in particular, I've been trying to convince Cyan that he's a better lynch than you or KJ.
2) He stated suspicion of Sir Chris and myself in post #151, and of Seppel in post #242 but has done nothing to follow up on these reads.
Misrep #2. #242 is not stating suspicion of Seppel. It's a reaction test.
3) As a matter of fact, he rarely ever follows up on anything, unless he's asked to. There is no continuity between his posts.
You have played with me before, right? I follow up on the things I want to follow up on. The thing I'm currently most interested in is the imab-you-KJ cluster. And I think it's clear that "no continuity" in that regard is misrep #3.
Even with those misreps, imab is still the better lynch.
Hello Archon! I am a very needy man, I'd really like it if you followed up on me too so I can write it down in my love journal.
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Y'know KA maybe I am crazy but I seem to remember you... having more to your posts when you posted. Have you always been so concise?
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Chris: No. I've been actively working on reducing my post size.
ZDS:
1a and 1b are basically the same answer - I'm trying to focus on convincing individuals rather than shouting into the wind.
3b - Really? My posts #47, #50, #151, #297, #312, #353 and #361 are all related to the "imab-ZDS-KJ cluster", which should really be the "Cyan-imab-ZDS-KJ" cluster, actually.
4 - imab has had more misreps, has been more needlessly aggro, and has more incorrect/actively-misleading analysis. You both have above-baseline odds of being scum, but his are higher.
I'm not sure about the Kami wagon, btw. Once again, shorter postings i a tell of play style only. I definitely don't have a townread on him though, so I suppose he isn't the worst wagon possible.
You should all vote wheat instead. Or chris, although I most want to lunch wheat today
Chris: No. I've been actively working on reducing my post size.
ZDS:
1a and 1b are basically the same answer - I'm trying to focus on convincing individuals rather than shouting into the wind.
3b - Really? My posts #47, #50, #151, #297, #312, #353 and #361 are all related to the "imab-ZDS-KJ cluster", which should really be the "Cyan-imab-ZDS-KJ" cluster, actually.
4 - imab has had more misreps, has been more needlessly aggro, and has more incorrect/actively-misleading analysis. You both have above-baseline odds of being scum, but his are higher.
I'm not sure about the Kami wagon, btw. Once again, shorter postings i a tell of play style only. I definitely don't have a townread on him though, so I suppose he isn't the worst wagon possible.
You should all vote wheat instead. Or chris, although I most want to lunch wheat today
Cyan give your view on ZDS again. I've liked his interaction with me so far, nothing seems amiss.
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New plan: I think that we're ready to end this day, so we should just go ahead and lynch somebody.
Vote: ZDS
He's probably scum--unless he's not.
I dislike this. Hans posted this first, ok. Seppel copied it, which is typical Seppel.
Hunt doesn't normally do this though. This feels like sheeping two better players to blend in, possibly.
Copying a vote for the third time was supposed to make me blend in? That seems right...
Ugh, I am still not convinced. Many people don't influence the game a lot, while looking like they are posting a lot of stuff See: me, Chris early game etc.
I would vote him if deadline gets close, though. I definitely don't have a townread on him.
Anyway I know KA well enough to know he is capable of better than the meager efforts he has given so far, as outlined by ZDS on this page. I'm interested in seeing more from him as well.
Anyway I know KA well enough to know he is capable of better than the meager efforts he has given so far, as outlined by ZDS on this page. I'm interested in seeing more from him as well.
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Is anyone scum for reasons other than "not contributing enough"?
Hello Archon! I am a very needy man, I'd really like it if you followed up on me too so I can write it down in my love journal.
Lynch all Liars! I guarantee Chris is lying, he does not keep a love journal!
@B_E
Why the hell are you admitting to active lurking in post #420? I can't tell if it's a townslip or a scumslip, but I think it has to be one of the two.
Hello Archon! I am a very needy man, I'd really like it if you followed up on me too so I can write it down in my love journal.
Lynch all Liars! I guarantee Chris is lying, he does not keep a love journal!
@B_E
Why the hell are you admitting to active lurking in post #420? I can't tell if it's a townslip or a scumslip, but I think it has to be one of the two.
You are easily my favorite player on this site now, Hunt.
I have a mild town read on ZDS. Someone tell me why I'm wrong. Cyan doesn't count because I don't trust him.
Considering that most of the people voting him have not actually put forth anything remotely resembling a case, I'm not sure what exactly you're expecting here. Also, you could just go read his posts. It's only Day 1, there aren't THAT many.
Maybe I'm expecting something remotely resembling a case? And I have read his posts. I still don't understand why people have him as scum.
@Anyone voting ZDS: Seriously, I want to know why he's scum because I don't see it.
I'll look back and decide if I agree with the KA cases probably tomorrow because I graduate today.
Or this whole post:
Post
OR how about where he asks me this question?
Ironically, I am actually less impressed with KA because of this question, and his follow up, and then him flatly calling KJ town. But that is me putting the horse before the cart, so.
Also, I declared multiple other people town in the SAME POST as I did Kami. And you haven't taken any issue with that. So..are you putting any work into this at all? Because really, it just seems like you're making it up as you go, trying to get anything to stick. And that is not town behavior.
Considering that most of the people voting him have not actually put forth anything remotely resembling a case, I'm not sure what exactly you're expecting here. Also, you could just go read his posts. It's only Day 1, there aren't THAT many.
This rings true tbh. Wheat seems overly cautious. vote wheatgrinder
What do you think of Cyan for saying a lot of people are scummy? Do you think he's being genuine there?
Did you? Your response was: It would be incredibly (easy?) for scum-Chris to not see meta-scumtells coming from town-Cyan. As easy as reading his role PM and not bothering with thinking about Cyan at all.
One word added by me, since you omitted it.
First you're assuming a town!Cyan. Why can't they be scum together? Just because you think Cyan is town does not make Chris genuine. I was really hoping for like a tone thing, or something more concrete than "he could have just ignored him."
Re: last sentence: You're voting Chris, so you think he's scum. I'm just not sure how you can think he's scum!Chris AND be making an argument that ends with a null read in this case. By your logic, scum!Chris ignores Cyan. Why would scum!Chris instead make a meta-defense, then come to a null conclusion instead?
And Re: my reads: Seppel is Seppel. He literally could be playing like this as either alignment. More time is needed before I conclude here.
Faeth is probably town. He's giving off newb town vibes.
Hawk I feel like when he's scum he's a lot more obvious than he is now. So lean town.
Are we?
Who are your scum reads? This is the most you've done today, IIRC.
I dislike this. Hans posted this first, ok. Seppel copied it, which is typical Seppel.
Hunt doesn't normally do this though. This feels like sheeping two better players to blend in, possibly.
Hi. You literally ignored all my questions.
For reference.
I said this a while ago. Stop trying to be cool by following the master Vote Wheat
This feels completely like one scum talking to another.
And I didn't ignore your questions, I just haven't felt like answering them yet. I'm also severely bothered by Kami being so quick to declare you town, but then he did the same thing for me so..yeah..
He has a certain snarkiness/flippant nature to his posts as town that he doesn't really have as scum. I feel like he has somewhat exhibited that in this game. Enough so that I'm not interested in lynching him just now, and at least want to give it time and see what progresses. It's also worth noting that, the last time he was scum, he seemed like the most obvious of obvious townies..which certainly is NOT the case this game.
I mostly answered this already, but the way that you address ZDS in the post I quoted above only reinforces this notion for me.
Kami defended my posts in a way that I wouldn't expect a scum to do(though I'm hedging on this now that he has also defended you). And I declared multiple people as town reads, not just Kami. Lastly, I did not 'clear' Kami. This is a very poor choice of words on your part that I feel is probably intentional. I declared a town read on him. Town reads can change.
Well, according to Seppel, this is something ZDS does as scum. And I'm not even sure it really gets held against a person on MTGS these days. I defended your Bomb claim in Wall 2 and no one ever really cared.
You followed my lead on masterplum and antny both in that game.
Because ZDS probably has to be scum for you to be scum, and he will be the more difficult of you two to get lynched as the game progresses.
Just because he's playing worse this game doesn't mean he is town.
I do/can see how some of wg posts make sense from a town persp. I am unsure of voting today(?) Like if I had more time I would most likely/hopefully find a scum read I am more comfortable/confident with/in.
I believe hunt is town and cant too.
I would posts a lot more but going through some things and the mobile site is terrible (I'm usually on the go).
Unvote, vote KA
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Cyan (1): imabusinessman
imabusinessman (2): Plowshares, KamikazeArchon
Burning_Earth2 (1): Sir Chris
ZeDorkSlippeur (4): Cyan, 7hawk77, hansanator, Huntzilla
Plowshares (0):
Sir Chris (2): Wheat_Grinder, Killjoy
Wheat_Grinder (3): Cantripmancer, Blindfaeth, Burning_Earth2
7hawk77 (0):
KamikazeArchon (2): ZeDorkSlippeur, Seppel
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Deadline: May 22
With 16 alive, it's 9 to lynch!
I will be out of town for the next two days.
Either way, we're all gonna burn
This is so great.
Not sure why zds wants to paint whatever I say in a bad light and then ignore my rebuttal but I don't see a town motive.
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BE doesn't appear to think about anything he says. His statements don't really make a lot of sense in regards to me and they are always woefully shallow. He just pops in, says random things at random times, and then pops out. I find him very frustrating to read because I don't know if he simply isn't passing the intelligence test or if he is faking that sentiment as scum and playing it up. Personally I think he is playing it up. It was very... interesting that he chose to cite a past game like that. That kind of ability to self-meta isn't the mark of someone who has displayed his level of play so far, which has been poor. It's like here you go, I can act like my town self as scum easily! See proof now!
KJ -
You just are wrong about your opinion about opinions, here. Like I did give analysis about Cyan. It was just to the point. Like I have an opinion about Cyan. It just wasn't an opinion you liked. You wanted it more away from the fence. When asked I have elaborated on that opinion each time and put more words into a simple read than I thought possible because people just don't seem to get it. It confuses you guys, or something. Like if on this current page you can look at all I've said about Cyan and conclude none of it is analysis then I mean okay. We're playing different games, then.
Also I don't think that Cyan is not worthy of notice. I read everything Cyan says and for good reason, it just isn't suspicious, apart for when he tried to hand wave me which I bit his arm off for.
Also the agenda that I have is being honest with my views. Like every game it seems like people get on my case for stuff kind of like this. You asked me about Cyan, I answered about Cyan, you for whatever reason thought this was some kind of conspiracy answer when really it was simple. Like you know what? I'm done talking about Cyan of the past. I'll comment on current Cyan stuff from now on, but I've explained myself enough. If you don't think so, lead a lynch on me. So read my several posts I've made about Cyan, and if you are unhappy explain what exactly makes it unhappy or get over it.
As for the other two questions I have not been lynched as scum on this site, I have been scum in only one game, Wu-tang, where Cyan poisoned me. I have not been neutral. I have never played with ZDS before.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
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2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
Even with those misreps, imab is still the better lynch.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
ZDS:
1a and 1b are basically the same answer - I'm trying to focus on convincing individuals rather than shouting into the wind.
3b - Really? My posts #47, #50, #151, #297, #312, #353 and #361 are all related to the "imab-ZDS-KJ cluster", which should really be the "Cyan-imab-ZDS-KJ" cluster, actually.
4 - imab has had more misreps, has been more needlessly aggro, and has more incorrect/actively-misleading analysis. You both have above-baseline odds of being scum, but his are higher.
You should all vote wheat instead. Or chris, although I most want to lunch wheat today
I would like it if you focused on the whole game.
Nope. ZDS. kkthxbye.
Lynch this guy.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
Hello seppel-kun.
2014 - Best Mafia Performance (Individual)(Wu Tang)
2014 - Best Mafia Newcomer
2015 - Best Town Performance (Individual) (Predator)
2015 - Best Town Performance (Group) - Predator Mafia
2015 - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - 2015 Invitational
2015 - Best Town Player
2015 - Best Mafia Player
2015 - Best Overall Player
Copying a vote for the third time was supposed to make me blend in? That seems right...
I would vote him if deadline gets close, though. I definitely don't have a townread on him.
Is anyone scum for reasons other than "not contributing enough"?
Also Chris has overtaken me in post count. Not for long, sucker!
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WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Pillowfort
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Modern
WBR Mardu Midrange
UR Storm
Commander
WBR Queen Marchesa Stax
WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Pillowfort
RRR Krenko, Mob Boss Chaos
Lynch all Liars! I guarantee Chris is lying, he does not keep a love journal!
@B_E
Why the hell are you admitting to active lurking in post #420? I can't tell if it's a townslip or a scumslip, but I think it has to be one of the two.
Modern
WBR Mardu Midrange
UR Storm
Commander
WBR Queen Marchesa Stax
WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Pillowfort
RRR Krenko, Mob Boss Chaos
Maybe I'm expecting something remotely resembling a case? And I have read his posts. I still don't understand why people have him as scum.
@Anyone voting ZDS: Seriously, I want to know why he's scum because I don't see it.
I'll look back and decide if I agree with the KA cases probably tomorrow because I graduate today.