KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
biggest thing to consider is ability to handle the volume and culture clash
i've spectated most of the championship seasons and watched fairly decent players struggle hard under the unfamiliarity aspect, as well as the unexpected volume
it is a championship, but the qualifying games are not championship caliber. there is a lot of noise, mediocre players spamming the thread with posts that can wildly vary in quality
it's very rewarding to participate in, especially if you manage to advance to the games where the player quality is actually decent, but it takes the skill set to deal with unconventional players, plus the dedication to participate in faster phase, high volume games
Whoever it is feel free to ask me about how MU works/software tips and tricks/etc if needed. I've played 100+ turbos and a dozen mashes there, mostly all on mobile, in addition to being mod there I know most things...
Whoever it is feel free to ask me about how MU works/software tips and tricks/etc if needed. I've played 100+ turbos and a dozen mashes there, mostly all on mobile, in addition to being mod there I know most things...
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
90% of days I can do at least an hour in mafia.Is that enough?
If you sign up for a 72/24 game, it might be enough, if you're a fast reader. With an hour, would you be able to read/skim 500 posts and make some posts also?
But it's probably best if you have a couple of hours per day - spread throughout the day of course.
I'm going on vacation next week, so won't be able to check in here. If you guys happen to decide on a representative in that time, they can reach me on Mafia Universe or Discord (Thingyman#6075). I'll then make sure they get the information they need to get prepared
90% of days I can do at least an hour in mafia.Is that enough?
If you sign up for a 72/24 game, it might be enough, if you're a fast reader. With an hour, would you be able to read/skim 500 posts and make some posts also?
But it's probably best if you have a couple of hours per day - spread throughout the day of course.
I can probably do like. An hour before I go to bed, then an hour after I get up. Maybe a shorter post on a lunch hour.
That's if I keep getting 40 hours. I've been getting less. So it would theoretically be doable.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Just popping in to give you the 10-day warning and a reminder that the final deadline is April 26.
But the sooner I have your representative's name, the more time I have to get them prepared for the Championship.
The very first qualifier starts April 29. And the last one starts June 17.
I'm very excited about this season! When your representative gets slotted into a game, I'll return with more information on when they're playing and how you can spectate them along with a thousand other people from all the other sites.
I'm now much more free and happy to represent us if that's still the majority preference, but if there is more support for KJ I think he is an awesome choice and would be happy for him to be our representative!
Grape or KJ both have my support. Perhaps Grape as the primary rep and KJ as backup/sub - the backups often get into the game as a sub for a community that doesn't have a backup, for what it's worth - I think that happened with Tom a few seasons ago.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Cool! I'll send Grape the info then. @Killjoy - you should also get registered on mafiauniverse.com if you haven't already, so you can be ready to sub in immediately if you're needed
@Grape - let me know if you haven't received the PM, don't know if my user being a bit weird maybe leads to you not receiving it
Grapefruit was voted into second place in his Championship Qualifier game and earned a spot in a Wildcard game! Congratulations to him and the other winners!
We're spectating the Championship from our Discord server (https://discord.gg/NHW4AVB) if you'd like to join us. The channel is hidden by default to ensure the integrity of the event, but if you contact myself (Silvercrys#3814) or Shadowlancerx (shadowlancerx#4374) we'll get you set up.
I’m very excited to invite your community to participate in Season 7 of the Mafia Championship.
The Mafia Championship is an annual forum-based tournament series that pits representatives from various online Mafia (aka Werewolf) communities against one another as they compete to determine the Internet’s greatest forum Mafia player. Each participating community democratically elects one person to represent them and be their “Champion”.
The tournament first started back in 2013. Since then, 320+ different communities and 50+ different nationalities have been represented.
It’s a super fun event that has created many new friendships and close bonds between communities. I hope that you would be interested in taking part
1. DO YOU ACCEPT THE INVITATION?
If your community wishes to participate, please confirm your participation to Lissa as soon as you can to ensure yourselves a spot. Currently, the plan is to accommodate 150 communities this season. If there is further interest, additional communities may sign up as substitutes; generally there are some replacements needed both before and during games.
If your community agrees to participate, the deadline for selecting your representative is April 27, but the sooner the better.
The games will take place on Mafia Universe. If it’s okay, I can link directly to the general discussion thread regarding this topic on Mafia Universe.
Important notes
You may decide yourselves how you want to elect your representative, but we highly recommend some sort of democratic process (public nominations followed by a poll usually works out well).
In addition to electing a representative, you should also name an alternate who will be asked to step in if the first choice needs to back out.
Your representative should be prepared for having to read upwards of 500-600 posts per 24 hours during the early stages of the game. Additionally, there’s a requirement that each player must make at least 10 posts per Game Day. Only active players should apply/participate. I repeat: Your chosen player needs to be able to promise a good amount of activity on a daily basis.
2. SEASON 7 FORMAT
The tournament structure
150 communities will participate, each sending one representative.
QUALIFIERS: 10 Qualifier Games will be played, consisting of 15 players each. I.e. every representative plays in one Qualifier Game. The players themselves vote post-game to determine who is deserving of advancement. 1st and 2nd place will advance to the Semifinal Games.
SEMIFINALS: A Jury consisting of finalists from Season 6 will select 25 additional players to advance to the three Semifinal Games. From each game, five players will advance to the Finale Game based on a post-game player vote, just like in the qualifying phase.
THE FINALE: The Finale Game is played. Once it has completed, the players vote to determine who shall receive the title of Season 7 Champion and a winner’s certificate signed by Dmitry Davidoff, the creator of mafia.
This year’s setup: JOAT^2
The setup is called JOAT^2 and features 15 players.
The setup consists of the following:
3x Mafia Goon
2x Town Jack Of All Trades (9x Doctor, 9x Motion Detector, 9x Tracker)
10x Vanilla Townie
Note that the Jacks Of All Trades must use all three actions before repeating an action, i.e. they are rotating. This does not mean they must use the actions in the same order every time.
Relevant mechanics info
- Day start.
- Majority lynch is enabled Day 2+, but majority is not required at any point in order to lynch.
- Tied votes will result in a player being lynched at random from among the tied players.
- No outside communication. I.e. you may not contact the other players outside of the thread (unless you are Mafia and wish to speak with your teammates).
- Phase Lengths and Deadlines will be up to the players themselves (I’ll organize your representative into a game with deadlines that suit their preferences).
- Thread is locked during Night Phases.
- Votes are automatically locked in at LYLO.
- Mafia factional kills are assigned. They can be tracked, watched, roleblocked, etc. (In this setup, that means they display as an action to the Tracker and the Motion Detector actions.)
- Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction. The mafia faction kill is mandatory.
- Mafia may communicate at any time.
- Each individual player may make a maximum of 150 posts per day phase (this restriction is lifted 2 hours before day end).
- The game will have a host to oversee everything and make sure everyone’s following the code of conduct, but otherwise the game is completely automated (automatic votecounts, thread locks and reveals roles automatically, the bot receives and processes actions, etc.).
3. SEASON 7 TIMELINE
There will be 10 Qualifier Games, and your representative plays in just one of these. They will have start dates ranging from late April to mid-June. So in other words, as long as your representative can play sometime during that period, they should be good and I’ll make sure they get scheduled into a game that suits their schedule well. I.e. if your rep is busy until June, that isn’t a problem.
The Semifinal Games will be played in July, and the Finale Game sometime in August/September (whenever we can work out something that suits everyone).
If you want to get in contact with me ASAP, you can find me on Discord (Lissa#8083).
This event can be a lot of fun but you have to enjoy the faster pace and spammier style it will inevitably have. So while I agree with Rhand that Axelrod is one of our strongest players I"m not sure this event would be one he'd enjoy or thrive in. But if he wants it I'll not vote against him.
I'd also have a preference for sending a player we haven't sent before which moves Shadow down the consideration order for me.
On playstyle I think Vaimes or KJ would be really well suited for the event. If we want to send our best regardless of fit or past experience in Champs one of Rhand, Axel, or Tom would be my vote.
Genuinely appreciate the consideration, but - issues of whether I’d enjoy it or not aside - the mafia universe site is blocked for me at work. Which means I would be simply unable to post or even read the game during the day (unless I was trying to keep up on my phone.) I think that makes my playing a non-starter.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I would be interested in seeing Dork or Last in these settings. Is it the strongest player that must play or is it just whoever wants to?
We usually just discuss amongst ourselves who all would be good to send and then see if that person can play.
If I get into a game before the tourism business starts up again, I could actually do it this year. I am having a rough time in fast games though because of being in Europe, so I’m not sure if I would be a good representative.
While I agree that shadow and tom would both be good people to send there, sending someone we haven't sent before is my preference.
Hence, I'd like to see Rhand getting sent there, for not being sent there before AND being one of our strongest players.
(And since they don't know you, they probably won't lynched you D1 just for the fun of it. )
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Last year they had rolling different times for game phases to cater to different parts of the world. I was in a game that was mostly west coast US and Australians if I'm remembering correctly. So they should have at least one game catering to Euro time zones if Rhand wants it.
If Rhand wants it he has my vote, if he doesn't Wisp or KJ (or Sloth! if he can't lock down the DLP nom) seem like great options to me!
Last year they had rolling different times for game phases to cater to different parts of the world. I was in a game that was mostly west coast US and Australians if I'm remembering correctly. So they should have at least one game catering to Euro time zones if Rhand wants it.
If Rhand wants it he has my vote, if he doesn't Wisp or KJ (or Sloth! if he can't lock down the DLP nom) seem like great options to me!
Yeah, there's a form for End of Day time preferences and there is generally at least a few games with European-friendly day ends
Though this is a bit less sure of a thing for rounds past qualifiers if you advance, as they tend to end up at very compromise-y times; however with 3 semifinal games it's pretty likely I can swing an Euro deadline for one there at least, and their tendency to be compromise-y means they're generally not extreme in the later direction
Ok I see my name so often and this is probably the only year where I can actually commit, so I guess I’ll take our banner (and get lynched Day one because Bur jinxed it)
Ok I see my name so often and this is probably the only year where I can actually commit, so I guess I’ll take our banner (and get lynched Day one because Bur jinxed it)
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I agree on Rhand with a backup of either Killjoy or one of Shadow/tom.
Wisp is currently also in nomination for MC, so not sure if that is the best idea here, though I think he has been at least a backup in the past on MC.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Grape seems best vote if he's willing.
Or send Shadow or Azreal again.
Give me a week to get my head back on straight things are crazy right now.
i've spectated most of the championship seasons and watched fairly decent players struggle hard under the unfamiliarity aspect, as well as the unexpected volume
it is a championship, but the qualifying games are not championship caliber. there is a lot of noise, mediocre players spamming the thread with posts that can wildly vary in quality
it's very rewarding to participate in, especially if you manage to advance to the games where the player quality is actually decent, but it takes the skill set to deal with unconventional players, plus the dedication to participate in faster phase, high volume games
Or eco/killjoy
Whoever it is feel free to ask me about how MU works/software tips and tricks/etc if needed. I've played 100+ turbos and a dozen mashes there, mostly all on mobile, in addition to being mod there I know most things...
If you sign up for a 72/24 game, it might be enough, if you're a fast reader. With an hour, would you be able to read/skim 500 posts and make some posts also?
But it's probably best if you have a couple of hours per day - spread throughout the day of course.
That's if I keep getting 40 hours. I've been getting less. So it would theoretically be doable.
Just popping in to give you the 10-day warning and a reminder that the final deadline is April 26.
But the sooner I have your representative's name, the more time I have to get them prepared for the Championship.
The very first qualifier starts April 29. And the last one starts June 17.
I'm very excited about this season! When your representative gets slotted into a game, I'll return with more information on when they're playing and how you can spectate them along with a thousand other people from all the other sites.
I'm happy to be a backup if that's a thing.
@Grape - let me know if you haven't received the PM, don't know if my user being a bit weird maybe leads to you not receiving it
We're spectating the Championship from our Discord server (https://discord.gg/NHW4AVB) if you'd like to join us. The channel is hidden by default to ensure the integrity of the event, but if you contact myself (Silvercrys#3814) or Shadowlancerx (shadowlancerx#4374) we'll get you set up.
Thanks!
Heres the message ive been asked to pass along:
I'd also have a preference for sending a player we haven't sent before which moves Shadow down the consideration order for me.
On playstyle I think Vaimes or KJ would be really well suited for the event. If we want to send our best regardless of fit or past experience in Champs one of Rhand, Axel, or Tom would be my vote.
We usually just discuss amongst ourselves who all would be good to send and then see if that person can play.
If I get into a game before the tourism business starts up again, I could actually do it this year. I am having a rough time in fast games though because of being in Europe, so I’m not sure if I would be a good representative.
Besides I'm not very hyped for this. I'm not fond of the set-up or of certain game mechanics (personal taste).
Hence, I'd like to see Rhand getting sent there, for not being sent there before AND being one of our strongest players.
(And since they don't know you, they probably won't lynched you D1 just for the fun of it. )
Intriguing.
If Rhand wants it he has my vote, if he doesn't Wisp or KJ (or Sloth! if he can't lock down the DLP nom) seem like great options to me!
Yeah, there's a form for End of Day time preferences and there is generally at least a few games with European-friendly day ends
Though this is a bit less sure of a thing for rounds past qualifiers if you advance, as they tend to end up at very compromise-y times; however with 3 semifinal games it's pretty likely I can swing an Euro deadline for one there at least, and their tendency to be compromise-y means they're generally not extreme in the later direction
We might just be down to "who can even commit to the games" now though lol
Wisp is currently also in nomination for MC, so not sure if that is the best idea here, though I think he has been at least a backup in the past on MC.
What I still need is a backup and a bio.