1-shot backup that you get by targeting someone and hoping it works out sounds like complete nonsense. And who in the world would target KJ with an ability like that on N1 anyway. This literally does not make any sense. TK has to be lying here. Unvote, Vote TK
@Hunger: I want to shoot CM. Tomorrow. I would much rather see someone like Generic/hawk/etc get investigated than WG, because those guys are complete variables that already claimed Vanilla.
1-shot backup that you get by targeting someone and hoping it works out sounds like complete nonsense. And who in the world would target KJ with an ability like that on N1 anyway. This literally does not make any sense. TK has to be lying here. Unvote, Vote TK
@Hunger: I want to shoot CM. Tomorrow. I would much rather see someone like Generic/hawk/etc get investigated than WG, because those guys are complete variables that already claimed Vanilla.
Sorry, I just got back from vacation and work has been way busier than normal. I was skimming and thought I comprehended everything but obviously I'm missing a lot.
1-shot backup that you get by targeting someone and hoping it works out sounds like complete nonsense. And who in the world would target KJ with an ability like that on N1 anyway. This literally does not make any sense. TK has to be lying here. Unvote, Vote TK
@Hunger: I want to shoot CM. Tomorrow. I would much rather see someone like Generic/hawk/etc get investigated than WG, because those guys are complete variables that already claimed Vanilla.
We can weed through those with lynches?
This. The vanillas are already in the PoE pile. If on the off chance Wheat is scum, he probably wins the game because I don't think anyone is going to lynch him over some combination of LnG/TK/KJ/Hawk/Generic.
1-shot backup that you get by targeting someone and hoping it works out sounds like complete nonsense. And who in the world would target KJ with an ability like that on N1 anyway. This literally does not make any sense. TK has to be lying here. Unvote, Vote TK
@Hunger: I want to shoot CM. Tomorrow. I would much rather see someone like Generic/hawk/etc get investigated than WG, because those guys are complete variables that already claimed Vanilla.
Whyyyy?!
If you shoot Killjoy, then we lynch TK, the game should literally be over.
Agreed with Hunger that if Whea is super bussing his teammate, he probably will skate.
@Mod, Votecount?
I still don't like any of Hawk's posts, but this last page has been more dumb than scum. Barely.
No, I see items and not abilities. I see only the names of the items. I saw TK carrying an item called "Bulletproof Vest" and Cyan carrying multiple items; one is named "Gun" and the others I shall not name.
I wouldn't mind the lynch if it weren't for Cyan's shot that's still not really decided.
Yeah, hawk was actually L-0, hence my "Son of a *****, hawk." post. Apparently Scarbo allowed Karn's unvote to go through though.
I still think shooting CM is a good call, but I've stated my bit and most others have as well, I think Cyan needs to just make the decision. At this point, if we can confirm Wheat, and TK does flip scum, we have Rhand, Karn, Cyan, Wheat as confirmed town.
I'm definitely shooting Cantrip. If he is telling the truth about his role, I want his investigation to happen. If he's not telling the truth, well..obvious answers are obvious.
So ultimately, everyone should answer this:
Should I A)kill CM today and we get a role reveal on WG or B)we have WG pass the 'ball' to someone else(either hawk, lng, or generic) and I kill Cantrip tomorrow. Please cast your vote for one of these two choices.
I wouldn't be mad about doing it tomorrow though as it shortens our PoE list, and in all likelihood Wheat is town. I just like to hedge my bets and feel like the way we lose this right now is if Wheat is playing us. I think with him confirmed town, we should have a pretty solid PoE state.
With kills being last on Scarbo's resolving actions, my main worry has disappeared. I was afraid that the ball would get lost in a NK toNight, but for that to happen scum would have to shoot one of hawk, lng or Generic, which is only a good thing
Shooting Wheat won't work.
As far as wanting to investigate Wheat goes: I don't think it's necessary anymore. Wheat has no reason as any alignment to lie about his N1 target, so he can't be buddies with TK. That wouldn't make sense.
So yeh, I don't mind you keeping your shot for toMorrow.
@Hunger: Karn was voting Hawk, not TK.
@Karn: if you can pick who you're backupping, pick me. I have this itching feeling that I'm not gonna make it to toMorrow
Yep, you are correct. When I was scanning for votes I counted six, but upon closer look, Cyan was already voting TK and then voted him again so I counted it as double.
I'm pretty confident of Wheat being town as well, but if scum has a roleblocker, we have a mess on our hands tomorrow with Cyan dead and no more vig shot for CM.
If the scum had a RB, presumably they would have RBed me last night just to avoid the possibility of exactly what happened today. I think we're okay on that front.
If the scum had a RB, presumably they would have RBed me last night just to avoid the possibility of exactly what happened today. I think we're okay on that front.
That's true. In that case, it probably does make more sense to wait.
I'll change my vote to tomorrow and stick with passing the ball to LnG.
Also, if I happen to die @everyone else: Cyan isn't confirmed town. It's highly unlikely for him to be scum, but he hasn't actually proven that he has Docced anyone. Just look into him if we reach lylo and I'm not here. I'm just reminded of Battlestar where Guardman claimed Vig and wasn't actually proven but everyone accepted it for fact but me and we lost because town thought I was scum when I called scumGuardman scum. My point is, the only thing missing Cyan town is his claim and it's not actually proven.
kthx. We can lynch TK now since Cyan's apparently not shooting (this also makes me more worrisome of Cyan).
Also, if I happen to die @everyone else: Cyan isn't confirmed town. It's highly unlikely for him to be scum, but he hasn't actually proven that he has Docced anyone. Just look into him if we reach lylo and I'm not here. I'm just reminded of Battlestar where Guardman claimed Vig and wasn't actually proven but everyone accepted it for fact but me and we lost because town thought I was scum when I called scumGuardman scum. My point is, the only thing missing Cyan town is his claim and it's not actually proven.
kthx. We can lynch TK now since Cyan's apparently not shooting (this also makes me more worrisome of Cyan).
I've had this in the back of mind too. If scum doesn't have a RB, they could have shot Voxx as an unlikely Dr. target, which is why it appears that there was only one kill.
I think it's more likely that Cyan is as he says though.
And if Wheat is his scumbuddy, he would still need to have a Day vig because there is no way he gets away with lying about that since we can push him to shoot. Scum Day vig = OP.
Like, the same I just said about Cyan could be said about Rhand, but Rhand has actually been townie this game, where as if we were just going by posts/content/gameplay, Cyan would have been lynched for being scummy.
Wheat knows what my other item name is, he just hasn't revealed it for whatever reason. The name of the item makes it abundantly obvious that I am what I say I am.
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We can't shoot TK because he DOES have a vest. He just lied about the origin.
@Hunger: I want to shoot CM. Tomorrow. I would much rather see someone like Generic/hawk/etc get investigated than WG, because those guys are complete variables that already claimed Vanilla.
We can weed through those with lynches?
Cyan plan sounds good. unvote vote tk
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Agreed with Hunger that if Whea is super bussing his teammate, he probably will skate.
@Mod, Votecount?
I still don't like any of Hawk's posts, but this last page has been more dumb than scum. Barely.
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You're lying.
unvote.
Holding off from voting until I see a votecount. To everyone, consider me on TK.
Whyyyy?!
If you shoot Killjoy, then we lynch TK, the game should literally be over.
Hunger (1): LnGrrrR
Killjoy (1): Generic
TK-421 (5): Rhand, Killjoy, Wheat_Grinder, Cyan, 7hawk77
Not voting (4): TK-421, Hunger, Cantripmancer, Sir Karn
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to burn. The deadline is 1100 EDT 28 July 2014.
Because TK not being the replacer, but having a bulletproof vest, means that he's actually a Bulletproof.
And I'd bet 100:1 that we don't have a Bulletproof AND a Bleeder in this game.
Why not let TK self-hammer
I like scum killing themselves
But is that why hawk wants him dead?
No, I see items and not abilities. I see only the names of the items. I saw TK carrying an item called "Bulletproof Vest" and Cyan carrying multiple items; one is named "Gun" and the others I shall not name.
Except Cyan sorta did decide what to do with it? And since he's confirmed town, there's no real reason to control his shot.
I still think shooting CM is a good call, but I've stated my bit and most others have as well, I think Cyan needs to just make the decision. At this point, if we can confirm Wheat, and TK does flip scum, we have Rhand, Karn, Cyan, Wheat as confirmed town.
So ultimately, everyone should answer this:
Should I A)kill CM today and we get a role reveal on WG or B)we have WG pass the 'ball' to someone else(either hawk, lng, or generic) and I kill Cantrip tomorrow. Please cast your vote for one of these two choices.
My vote is probably still LnG. Wouldn't mind KJ or hawk though.
My vote is to kill CM toDay.
I wouldn't be mad about doing it tomorrow though as it shortens our PoE list, and in all likelihood Wheat is town. I just like to hedge my bets and feel like the way we lose this right now is if Wheat is playing us. I think with him confirmed town, we should have a pretty solid PoE state.
Shooting Wheat won't work.
As far as wanting to investigate Wheat goes: I don't think it's necessary anymore. Wheat has no reason as any alignment to lie about his N1 target, so he can't be buddies with TK. That wouldn't make sense.
So yeh, I don't mind you keeping your shot for toMorrow.
@Hunger: Karn was voting Hawk, not TK.
@Karn: if you can pick who you're backupping, pick me. I have this itching feeling that I'm not gonna make it to toMorrow
I believe Sir Karn was voting for 7hawk77 before his unvote, not TK-421. Either way, the Day will continue.
I'm pretty confident of Wheat being town as well, but if scum has a roleblocker, we have a mess on our hands tomorrow with Cyan dead and no more vig shot for CM.
I'll change my vote to tomorrow and stick with passing the ball to LnG.
So ehm... shall I just put my vote back and let's get this done with? I don't think there's much more to be gained for toDay.
Oh and I don't want to give Wheat directions. Just let him wifom it between Hawk, Generic, Lngr and KillJoy.
Unless they blocked Hawk for his hammer-sillyness, I don't think they can block.
Let's do it.
I'm completely fine with this as well.
kthx. We can lynch TK now since Cyan's apparently not shooting (this also makes me more worrisome of Cyan).
I think it's more likely that Cyan is as he says though.
Why would it need him to be a scum Doctor? I don't see the reasoning there.
Also, he supposedly received the shot from Seppel, right?