Wheat knows what my other item name is, he just hasn't revealed it for whatever reason. The name of the item makes it abundantly obvious that I am what I say I am.
Like, the same I just said about Cyan could be said about Rhand, but Rhand has actually been townie this game, where as if we were just going by posts/content/gameplay, Cyan would have been lynched for being scummy.
Also, Cyan being scum would require him to either be a scum Dr. with a Day Vig or Wheat to be his scumbuddy.
Why would it need him to be a scum Doctor? I don't see the reasoning there.
Also, he supposedly received the shot from Seppel, right?
Wheat said that the other items that aren't a gun that Cyan has would be seen as a Dr. ability. So he doesn't have to be a scum Dr., but if he isn't, then Wheat has to be his scumbuddy, and if that's the case why would Wheat out that he has a gun ever?
He did supposedly get the shot from Seppel. Or someone is not speaking up for some reason. Or he had the shot the whole time.
Like, the same I just said about Cyan could be said about Rhand, but Rhand has actually been townie this game, where as if we were just going by posts/content/gameplay, Cyan would have been lynched for being scummy.
Also, Cyan being scum would require him to either be a scum Dr. with a Day Vig or Wheat to be his scumbuddy.
Why would it need him to be a scum Doctor? I don't see the reasoning there.
Also, he supposedly received the shot from Seppel, right?
Wheat said that the other items that aren't a gun that Cyan has would be seen as a Dr. ability. So he doesn't have to be a scum Dr., but if he isn't, then Wheat has to be his scumbuddy, and if that's the case why would Wheat out that he has a gun ever?
He did supposedly get the shot from Seppel. Or someone is not speaking up for some reason. Or he had the shot the whole time.
A bit after the fact, but I agree that we shouldn't direct Wheat's pass beyond limiting to the PoE pool. If they NK whomever gets the ball, we lose that advantage. (If they shoot into the PoE pool to attempt to negate that advantage, and they don't hit whomever Wheat passes it to, it's uberbonus. )
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ISIS HEREBY DISAVOWS AGENT TK-421 WHO IS TO BE CONSIDERED
AN UNRELIABLE ASSET AND SECURITY RISK. ALL INTELLIGENCE FROM
SAID ASSET TAINTED. APPREHEND OR ELIMINATE AT OWN DISCRETION
THOUGH CAUTION ADVISED, ASSET HIGHLY TRAINED.
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With all this yak about Agent TK-421's potential possession of a bulletproof vest, I made a nice little call to our friends at INTERPOL. They were kind enough to rig his car's AC with nerve gas. Rookie mistake. REMEMBER, AGENTS. NEVER TURN THE AC ON IN YOUR COMPANY CARS. Unfortunately he crashed into this fabulous cafe I loved in Budapest. I think there were some casualties, but no matter. There are more important things at stake. They were also kind enough to identify the corpse and run a thorough background check.
Name: Len Trexler
Alignment: Mafia
Role: Thief
Codename: TK-421
Bio: Head of ODIN, ex-romantic partner of Malory Archer,
one of Sterling Archer's potential fathers
Intelligence: TK-421's body was found with a bulletproof vest.
It is now Night 3. Communication is forbidden until further notification. You have 72 hours to perform any night actions.
Terrible news this morning, agents. The Mafia are working fast and have eliminated probably one of ISIS's best agents.
Name: Lana Kane
Alignment: Town
Role: Agent
Codename: Hunger
Bio: ISIS Field Agent, Sterling Archer's
and Cyril Figgis's former girlfriend,
propensity for leftist political sympathies
Day 4 has begun. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to burn. The deadline is 0815 EDT 7 August 2014.
Nights will henceforth be shortened to 48 hours or when all actions have been submitted, whichever occurs first.
Well I guess that all we have to do now is let Cyan shoot CM, get Generic cleared (I'm sad Wheat chose Generic. Pretty damn sure he's town) and then lynch KillJoy.
We do have to eliminate one of {Hawk, Karn, LnGrrR} as suspect tho because if we reach lylo, two of them are probably still alive.
(I don't think Karn is scum, but you never know... his counterclaim was a bit awkward)
Time to take a look at interactions between those 3 and the dead scums.
Someone remind me why Rhand is cleared? Something about 1270 makes me cringe. Hmm, but he was early to call bull on TK's claim...
So, Wheat is town, Cyan is likely town, Rhand is probably town. We're probably looking at one more scum. If we take me out now, and Generic shows town, we have:
Sir Karn
Killjoy
LnGrrrR
7hawk77
We lynch Killjoy, we're at 6-1 (the chances of 5 scum and an assassin are pretty low, right?). So barring an extra kill on the scum side, we still have two lynches to get it right. Generic isn't my top suspect, but eliminating two question marks gets us a lot closer, and if Generic is town, then he's vanilla, and then scum have to spend a nightkill on a vanilla townie to delay PoE. I think we take me out toDay rather than risk losing the daykill and/or the extra reveal.
Well I guess that all we have to do now is let Cyan shoot CM, get Generic cleared (I'm sad Wheat chose Generic. Pretty damn sure he's town) and then lynch KillJoy.
We do have to eliminate one of {Hawk, Karn, LnGrrR} as suspect tho because if we reach lylo, two of them are probably still alive.
(I don't think Karn is scum, but you never know... his counterclaim was a bit awkward)
Time to take a look at interactions between those 3 and the dead scums.
Karn counterclaimed someone? I must have missed that, I didn't remember Karn claiming anything at all.
Anyway, I'm ready to shoot CM whenever. But we should give him time to provide some last thoughts, just in case.
@Rhand: Yeah, I've just been really disconnected from the game. Sorry. I didn't remember you towning Generic yesterDay, so your "certainty" made me raise an eyebrow.
Not sure that scum!Karn would late cc TK, but maybe.
Not that you should give what I say much weight, but my current ranking would be:
Killjoy - Interactions with TK
LnGrrrR - PoE
Hawk - Faking a hammer ability to draw the NK sounds Hawkian to me.
Karn - Sounded town most the game.
I think we're only in trouble if Karn or Cyan are scum.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm pretty sure the game is over. Karns attitude was very similar to when we were masons which is why I thought he was town. I didn't want to point this out in case I pointed the scum to a power role.
I was wrong about generic but he was also wrong about me even though I'm not confirmed. At least we pulled our collective heads out of our Butts to lynch correctly.
If wheat was scum, he would have still kept the option of lynching me open after mislynching.
With lngrr not having items it looks like there is no other possibility.
@Killjoy: If you are somehow not the last scum, it'd have to be LnGrrrR or Hawk. There just ain't anyone else. Karn is behaviorally town, Cyan, Rhand, and Generic are confirmed town, so only LnGrrrR and Hawk have the least possibility.
I think Hawk is acting like the end of whatever mafia Generic and I were scum together in so hawk is probably the last scum if Killjoy isn't.
But it's all moot because Killjoy being scum makes 10x more sense than anyone else.
It doesn't matter, it has to be killjoy or lngr. We have 3 lynches left. If you guys need to kill me tomorrow to confirm lngrr is the other possibility, it doesn't really matter to me.
I'm pretty sure the game is over. Karns attitude was very similar to when we were masons which is why I thought he was town. I didn't want to point this out in case I pointed the scum to a power role.)
I like this post because it says to me that you would have NKed me if you were scum since you knew I was playing like I had a PR.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
***** ATTENTION ***** ALL AGENCIES ***** ATTENTION *****
ISIS HEREBY DISAVOWS AGENT KILLJOY WHO IS TO BE CONSIDERED
AN UNRELIABLE ASSET AND SECURITY RISK. ALL INTELLIGENCE FROM
SAID ASSET TAINTED. APPREHEND OR ELIMINATE AT OWN DISCRETION
THOUGH CAUTION ADVISED, ASSET HIGHLY TRAINED.
BURN NOTICE
BURN NOTICE
" ISIS: ALL OF OUR BUSINESS COMES FROM YOUR REFERRALS. "
Well. Looks like he was telling the truth. I hired some Cuban hit men to shoot Killjoy. He literally lied on the streets of Miami for 2 days before finally dying.
Name: Brett Buckley
Alignment: Town
Role: Bleeder
Codename: Killjoy
Bio: Employee at ISIS,
occupation unknown
It is now Night 4. Communication is forbidden until further notification. You have 48 hours to perform any night actions.
I really just wanted the game to be over with Killjoy.
I am very surprised that WG got NKed. I was sure it would be myself or Rhand. I can understand the scum not wanting to burn themselves by targeting me again, but, killing WG makes very little sense.
I think that we need to hear from Sir Karn as to how his role works today, and anyone else that hasn't claimed(I think it's just LNG at this point) should do so.
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I see.
He did supposedly get the shot from Seppel. Or someone is not speaking up for some reason. Or he had the shot the whole time.
I forgot Seppel said he had a Doctor item.
K.
It's called a Potion. A bit vague but the most obvious story is in fact that it's a doc item.
I don't really doubt Cyan's alignment.
Hunger (1): LnGrrrR
Killjoy (2): Generic, Cantripmancer
TK-421 (6): Killjoy, Wheat_Grinder, Cyan, 7hawk77, Hunger, Rhand
Not voting (2): TK-421, Sir Karn
That's a burn.
FROM: ISIS
TO: ABIN, AIVD, BND, CIA, CNI, CSIS, DGFI, GBI, G2, GRLS, HNA,
HUR, INTERPOL, JGSDF, KAPO, KNB, MI5, MI6, MIT, ODIN, PET, RCMP,
SAPO, SHiK, SND, SOVA, SuPo, SURETE, SV/SE, TC2, UJFC (E), WDO-4
RE: TK-421
***** ATTENTION ***** ALL AGENCIES ***** ATTENTION *****
ISIS HEREBY DISAVOWS AGENT TK-421 WHO IS TO BE CONSIDERED
AN UNRELIABLE ASSET AND SECURITY RISK. ALL INTELLIGENCE FROM
SAID ASSET TAINTED. APPREHEND OR ELIMINATE AT OWN DISCRETION
THOUGH CAUTION ADVISED, ASSET HIGHLY TRAINED.
BURN NOTICE
BURN NOTICE
" ISIS: ALL OF OUR BUSINESS COMES FROM YOUR REFERRALS. "
10100934TXS
Alignment: Mafia
Role: Thief
Codename: TK-421
Bio: Head of ODIN, ex-romantic partner of Malory Archer,
one of Sterling Archer's potential fathers
Intelligence: TK-421's body was found with a bulletproof vest.
It is now Night 3. Communication is forbidden until further notification. You have 72 hours to perform any night actions.
Alignment: Town
Role: Agent
Codename: Hunger
Bio: ISIS Field Agent, Sterling Archer's
and Cyril Figgis's former girlfriend,
propensity for leftist political sympathies
Day 4 has begun. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to burn. The deadline is 0815 EDT 7 August 2014.
Nights will henceforth be shortened to 48 hours or when all actions have been submitted, whichever occurs first.
Wheat: got any results for us?
We do have to eliminate one of {Hawk, Karn, LnGrrR} as suspect tho because if we reach lylo, two of them are probably still alive.
(I don't think Karn is scum, but you never know... his counterclaim was a bit awkward)
Time to take a look at interactions between those 3 and the dead scums.
I think I'm probably the only one reading you as town, so I don't think this will get much support
So, Wheat is town, Cyan is likely town, Rhand is probably town. We're probably looking at one more scum. If we take me out now, and Generic shows town, we have:
Sir Karn
Killjoy
LnGrrrR
7hawk77
We lynch Killjoy, we're at 6-1 (the chances of 5 scum and an assassin are pretty low, right?). So barring an extra kill on the scum side, we still have two lynches to get it right. Generic isn't my top suspect, but eliminating two question marks gets us a lot closer, and if Generic is town, then he's vanilla, and then scum have to spend a nightkill on a vanilla townie to delay PoE. I think we take me out toDay rather than risk losing the daykill and/or the extra reveal.
@Wheat: Why did you choose Generic?
Vote Killjoy
And Niv wanted me lynched.
And I made sure TK got lynched.
I don't know what more you want from me to prove my alignment lol.
You're even repeating what I said in the post you don't like
@Karn: how does your ability work?
Karn counterclaimed someone? I must have missed that, I didn't remember Karn claiming anything at all.
Anyway, I'm ready to shoot CM whenever. But we should give him time to provide some last thoughts, just in case.
Karn claimed replacer or something along those lines.
A late counterclaim to TK who was already getting lynched.
Not sure that scum!Karn would late cc TK, but maybe.
Not that you should give what I say much weight, but my current ranking would be:
Killjoy - Interactions with TK
LnGrrrR - PoE
Hawk - Faking a hammer ability to draw the NK sounds Hawkian to me.
Karn - Sounded town most the game.
I think we're only in trouble if Karn or Cyan are scum.
Town distancing ftw
I don't think he's scum, but he's a possibility.
We should get more information on this later, but based purely on face value, that counterclaim means absolutely nothing.
I'll wait until CM actually dies to vote Killjoy(just in case).
POW
Alignment: Town
Role: Psychic
Codename: Cantripmancer
Bio: ISIS Secretary,
heiress to massive railroad fortunes
*Cantripmancer releases a final gasp of life, just as a crystal ball begins to glow on Generic.*
Alignment: Town
Role: Agent
Codename: Generic
Bio: ISIS Analyst, Olympic skier,
former minister
Oh my God. JUST LIKE THE GYPSY WOMAN SAID.
Vote counts have been reset. With 8 alive, it takes 5 to burn. The deadline is 1300 EDT 6 August 2014.
No surprise that Generic is town. Maybe he'll be more active now. Being confirmed town seems to have that affect on people.
Vote Killjoy
I was waiting for the lynch scene
Killjoy (2): Cyan, Generic
Not voting (6): Sir Karn, Rhand, Killjoy, Wheat_Grinder, LnGrrrR, 7hawk77
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to burn.
TK's reactions of Killjoy pretty much seal that.
I gave the ball to Generic because I wanted to know info about him the worst, and he claimed vanilla so my main ability didn't work.
LnGrrrR has no items. I targeted him because I don't really feel hawk is scum but I have no strong feelings on LnGrrrR.
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Hint: I'm not scum.
I'm willing to be the next lynch, since logically I suppose I'm next.
I was kinda hoping to reread the game over night. lol.
Personally I think it's LngrrrR or hawk.
I was wrong about generic but he was also wrong about me even though I'm not confirmed. At least we pulled our collective heads out of our Butts to lynch correctly.
If wheat was scum, he would have still kept the option of lynching me open after mislynching.
With lngrr not having items it looks like there is no other possibility.
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@Killjoy: If you are somehow not the last scum, it'd have to be LnGrrrR or Hawk. There just ain't anyone else. Karn is behaviorally town, Cyan, Rhand, and Generic are confirmed town, so only LnGrrrR and Hawk have the least possibility.
I think Hawk is acting like the end of whatever mafia Generic and I were scum together in so hawk is probably the last scum if Killjoy isn't.
But it's all moot because Killjoy being scum makes 10x more sense than anyone else.
And I also am not yet 100% sure on Karn.
Wheat, do you think the last scum should have items?
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TK's item was revealed on death, I don't think any other items were revealed. Therefore I don't think the last scum has items, necessarily.
Let's win.
I like this post because it says to me that you would have NKed me if you were scum since you knew I was playing like I had a PR.
How do you guys justify scum having 2 bulletproof/variants btw?
FROM: ISIS
TO: ABIN, AIVD, BND, CIA, CNI, CSIS, DGFI, GBI, G2, GRLS, HNA,
HUR, INTERPOL, JGSDF, KAPO, KNB, MI5, MI6, MIT, ODIN, PET, RCMP,
SAPO, SHiK, SND, SOVA, SuPo, SURETE, SV/SE, TC2, UJFC (E), WDO-4
RE: KILLJOY
***** ATTENTION ***** ALL AGENCIES ***** ATTENTION *****
ISIS HEREBY DISAVOWS AGENT KILLJOY WHO IS TO BE CONSIDERED
AN UNRELIABLE ASSET AND SECURITY RISK. ALL INTELLIGENCE FROM
SAID ASSET TAINTED. APPREHEND OR ELIMINATE AT OWN DISCRETION
THOUGH CAUTION ADVISED, ASSET HIGHLY TRAINED.
BURN NOTICE
BURN NOTICE
" ISIS: ALL OF OUR BUSINESS COMES FROM YOUR REFERRALS. "
10100934TXS
Alignment: Town
Role: Bleeder
Codename: Killjoy
Bio: Employee at ISIS,
occupation unknown
It is now Night 4. Communication is forbidden until further notification. You have 48 hours to perform any night actions.
Alignment: Town
Role: Snoop
Codename: Wheat_Grinder
Bio: ISIS Human Resources Director
Funny. I always thought Pam would die from diabetes or a heart attack...
What?
Day 5 has begun. With 6 alive, it takes 4 to burn. The deadline is 0815 EDT 4 August 2014.
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I am very surprised that WG got NKed. I was sure it would be myself or Rhand. I can understand the scum not wanting to burn themselves by targeting me again, but, killing WG makes very little sense.
I think that we need to hear from Sir Karn as to how his role works today, and anyone else that hasn't claimed(I think it's just LNG at this point) should do so.