Generic, Arthur Dent, Town Vanilla, endgamed Day 4.
Burning_Earth, Atticus Finch, Town Mason, endgamed Day 4.
Killjoy, Seppel, Town Vanilla, endgamed Day 4.
Antny223, Dexter Morgan, Mafia Rolecop, won on Day 4.
Tanarin, The Kid, Mafia Roleblocker, won on Day 4.
The Mafia (consisting of 7hawk77, Antny223, and Tanarin) have won Basic #85, uPick Mafia.
Setup + modnotes + QTs will come momentarily. You may all post in the thread now.
This'll be my last post of the Day; I've been a little too optimistic in how my recovery is going I'm afraid.
SNL should be the lynch toDay. He and Dag cannot be scum together; if SNL is town, it's possible Dag is scum. Generic is town. Be wary of Antny and Tanarin.
This'll be my last post of the Day; I've been a little too optimistic in how my recovery is going I'm afraid.
SNL should be the lynch toDay. He and Dag cannot be scum together; if SNL is town, it's possible Dag is scum. Generic is town. Be wary of Antny and Tanarin.
This'll be my last post of the Day; I've been a little too optimistic in how my recovery is going I'm afraid.
SNL should be the lynch toDay. He and Dag cannot be scum together; if SNL is town, it's possible Dag is scum. Generic is town. Be wary of Antny and Tanarin.
If I'm not the NK, I'll see everyone Day 3.
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I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Even if I had convinced Town that SNL was noob and we shouldn't lynch him, then we mislynch Dag , then correctly lynch Tan... I think I would have gone after Generic over Antny. I was having doubts about him the last Day.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
While I love everyone telling me what a great scum I am ( ) I do feel somewhat sympathetic towards the town over the ika lynch Day One. I don't like town self hammering (particularly since when it comes with the whole this will teach you to piss me off attitude) and I can't think of anything more anti-town that self-hammering as a bodyguard, a role which if claimed would have inevitable saved him from the lynch - and subsequently got Dagaen lynched in the process. Telling the scumteam your both a PR and you'll conveniently provide your own hammer if they can get you to L-1 is simply stupid. If instead the town lynched Dagaen Day One, the scum have a lot of work to do in this setup (though we had s fair amount of power between rolecop + roleblocker to do it).
Anyway, good game everyone, other than ika42 I would be happy to play with all of you again (particular would like to play with Generic in a game when I'm town - see if I can read him).
Oh well. Not my fault you guys didn't lynch me D1:p Now I got my lesson that I shouldn't do that kind of stupid stuff right at the start. Next time I will do different kind of stupid stuff right at the start:P
Antny played great, his push on Hawk was really well done.
I can't believe Timscot cleared Void by mistake.
Glad to see I was right at least about Generic, it would be really lame if he was scum.
I didn't clear Void by mistake. I correctly read Void from his first post like I always do. Hell, I did it before his first post this time. Maybe I should start doing that instead of waiting for him to post from now on.
Anyway, Day 1 ika lynch was terrible, but I guess I can't really say much since I couldn't get my head into the game and was absent for that lynch. Sorry for letting everyone down - this is the second Mafia game I've ever replaced out of and I was really depending on TMCT to pull up our activity but he went absent around the same time I did and I just couldn't keep it up at the busy point I had reached in my life. My apologies especially go to Proph.
While I love everyone telling me what a great scum I am ( ) I do feel somewhat sympathetic towards the town over the ika lynch Day One. I don't like town self hammering (particularly since when it comes with the whole this will teach you to piss me off attitude) and I can't think of anything more anti-town that self-hammering as a bodyguard, a role which if claimed would have inevitable saved him from the lynch - and subsequently got Dagaen lynched in the process. Telling the scumteam your both a PR and you'll conveniently provide your own hammer if they can get you to L-1 is simply stupid. If instead the town lynched Dagaen Day One, the scum have a lot of work to do in this setup (though we had s fair amount of power between rolecop + roleblocker to do it).
Anyway, good game everyone, other than ika42 I would be happy to play with all of you again (particular would like to play with Generic in a game when I'm town - see if I can read him).
Honestly, I don't know why we didn't lynch Dagaen on Day 1. That was awful and I'd have found the scum on that wagon in a heartbeat. There were some townies in this game that were playing so terribly that I just couldn't find the motivation or time to rally the troops and go after you guys. I was suspicious of you, Antny, but I wrote it off because I have a hard time reading your mindset - it was like in Walking Dead, where had I been town, I would've been convinced you were scum there, too - your playstyle is kind of abrasive and your mindset comes across to me as smug. I've noticed that I butt heads with players who tend to play like myself. So, take it as a compliment, as I have a huge ego.
Also, I direct you guys to post #752, where my only scum read is SNL (with a question mark), and my only two uncertain reads were Tanarin and Antny. Yes, I said we should lynch Dagaen, but that's because he was a safe lynch and I wanted to get him out of the way for an endgame scenario as a liability. I suppose it should have raised flags to me that Antny mentioned he was going to check me out and never really did, though I wasn't paying enough attention to the game to notice that (which is surprising, because the easiest way for me to read people is to poke them and see how they interact with myself, usually).
Pleased I can still read Generic well, too.
TMCT, let's hydra again sometime when both of our lives aren't derping to a major extent.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, Void! You are Generic (from Real Life), the Town Mason. Where do I begin? Let’s start with a basic description of your playstyle:
7hawk77: “Generic's gameplay can be off the wall, schizophrenic and sometimes brilliant. Often times he ends up digging himself very deep very quickly. He's gotten frustrated and claimed randomly and can be very temperamental. This isn't a bad thing for him as a player because it makes him harder to read because his actions are more based on his mood than on his alignment.”
You are a self-proclaimed unreadable mafia player, who likes to play three or more games at a time (on MTGS, Coloholics, and mafiascum). You’re a very good scum player and you enjoy hydraing with the community on mafiascum and with yours truly.
On a normal day, as you were rereading MTGS Mafia Redux 2, you suddenly see your iPhone screen enlarge, and a text box present in front of you. What’s more, you can’t seem to look anywhere else. Hm..
Passive Abilities:
Generically Purple: Due to your popularity on mafiascum and the fact that you hydra with a lot of players there, you share a mason chat with Burning_Earth (Atticus Finch). You are mod-confirmed town to each other, and you may talk in the mason chat any time.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do."
Welcome to uPick Mafia, Burning_Earth! You are Atticus Finch (from To Kill a Mockingbird), the Town Mason. You’re a famous lawyer and resident of Maycomb County and acted as the public defense lawyer for Tom Robinson. Unfortunately, as we all know, Tom Robinson was proven innocent but was convicted by the jury anyways due to the black prejudice going on in that time. You’re proclaimed as a hero and role model for many people for being an upstanding citizen and your wisdom.
After Jem broke his arm, you dozed off to sleep reading one of your favorite books, The Gray Ghost. When you woke up, you’re in a strange land, nothing at all like Maycomb County. You think it’s a dream, but after a couple of minutes, you encounter the only resident of this land, Morpheus. “Don’t you wish you could re-do the Tom Robinson trial, except without the prejudice going on in 20th century America?”
Passive Abilities:
Testimony: Due to your heroic status as a lawyer and your model of integrity, you share a mason chat with Void (Generic). You are mod-confirmed town to each other, and you may talk in the mason chat any time.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome ... to ZomboCom.
This ... is ... ZomboCom.
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You can do anything at ZomboCom.
Anything at all. The only limit is yourself.
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This is ZomboCom, welcome!
Yes. This ... is ZomboCom.
This is ZomboCom!
And welcome to you, who have come to ZomboCom.
Anything ... is possible ... at ZomboCom.
You can do ... anything at ZomboCom.
The infinite is possible at ZomboCom.
The unattainable is unknown at ZomboCom.
Welcome to ZomboCom.
This ... is ZomboCom.
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Welcome to uPick Mafia, ika42! You are Zombo.com (from the Internet), the Town Bodyguard. You’re a humorous website created in 1999 to parody the long flash animations that were popular around the net around the time. The site’s well-known as an internet phenomenon, but your creator intended it to be nothing more than a piece of absurdist comedy. Oh well!
Active Abilities:
Flash Introduction: Each Night, you may target a player. If that player would be killed that Night, you die instead.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them, because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.”
Welcome to uPick Mafia, iRebel! You are Steve Jobs (from Real Life), the Town Tracker. You’re the CEO of Apple and a famous technology visionary, famous for promoting simplicity and intuition above everything else. You’re a pioneer of the computing revolution and you also co-founded Pixar. Above all else, you’re stubborn, and willing to do anything it takes to create a perfect product, which you’ve manifested through your products - the iPhone, the iPad, and the Macintosh.
It seems as if life has given you one final miracle, in which you’ve been somehow conscious and awake in this place called “MTGS”. As you walk through this strange place, you’re greeted by the one individual of this place, Morpheus. “I’m not sure if I can find a use for you, here..” he quietly questions to himself. “Whatever. Go meet the 12 other people here - I’m sure you’ll be useful, somehow.”
Active Abilities:
“Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.”: Each Night, you may target a player. You will learn who that player targeted.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, Dagaen! You are Garrett (from Thief), a Town Vanilla. You’re a master thief - a clever fellow with a roguish charm, and you would like nothing more than to steal in peace. You were recruited into a secret organization dedicated to stabilizing the City, called the Keepers. Later on, though, you found it more profitable and better for your livelihood if you defected from the Keepers and used your newfound skills in the art of stealth. You usually don’t try to kill, though there are moments in which you have had to in order to preserve your life.
One night when you were out robbing a bank, you entered the bank but instead entered the land of “MTGS”. You see no one here, but you can’t seem to get back to the City. After sneaking around for a while, you encounter a coated man named, apparently, Morpheus. “Your stealth skills may prove useful. For what, you say? Oh, you’ll just have to see.” He cracks a grin.
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, Generic! You are Arthur Dent (from The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy), a Town Vanilla. You’re the protagonist of the comic science fiction series A Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, which was originally a radio comedy before it was adapted to other forms of media. As Earth makes way towards a hyperspace bypass, your best friend Ford Prefect arrives, telling you that the end of the world is nigh. You’ve experienced this thousands of times as consumers listen, read, or watch your eccentric story again and again, until something different happens this time - instead of heading to a bar, your next step is you entering this world knows as “MTGS”. What could this mean, and what has disrupted your retelling of Hitchhiker’s Guide for so long?
Morpheus, the strange host of this world, smiles. “I could use some sandwiches and tea.”
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, SelesnyaNewLife! You are the Great A’Tuin (from Discworld), a Town Vanilla. You are the World Turtle upon which the Discworld is carried on, through space. You’re one in several World Turtles and you’re probably just going to race through space to nowhere forever. You’re known to frequently roll on your belly to avoid collisions, though what would happen if you collided into something? Discworld would end, right? (Hint: It’s best now to answer that question.)
As you dive towards space, the space-time continuum shatters, like it’s a normal thing. Instead of being dropped towards nothingness and infinite quantum physics matter that my brain cannot comprehend, your fate is much simpler - a roll and a dive towards MTGS. Morpheus holds down his glasses, revealing his eyes. “What’s the fate of Discworld now?”
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, sneakyhomunculus! You are Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward (from Thunderbirds), a Town Vanilla. You’re the London Agent for the secret organization International Rescue, and you’re also a supermodel and celebrity. Not a very good combination of high-publicity idol vs. a secret agent, right? Lady Penelope would love to prove you wrong - you’re an expert in subterfuge and can shoot a gun. You also own a iconic Rolls-Royce car painted in pink. Your life is exhilarating, and rightfully so.
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, TIMsCoT! You are Seppel (from Real Life), a Town Vanilla.
YOU HAVE NOT YET APPEASED SEPPEL
DID YOU LIGHT THE INCENSE BEFORE YOUR GOOD NIGHT RITUAL TO SEPPEL?
HAVE YOU TREKKED UP SEPPEL MOUNTAIN TO BEG THE SEPPEL GURU FOR FORGIVENESS?
IN WHAT ORDER DID YOU BURN YOUR LINKIN PARK CDs?
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, 7hawk77! You are Brian Laborn aka Grue (from Worm), the Mafia Goon. You’re the oldest member of the Undersiders (a group of teenagers carrying out petty thefts and other misdemeanors) and you’re the de facto leader of the group. You’re a handsome, muscular African-American teen who knows how to rough it up with some martial arts fighting.
You were out to meet Coil to arrange things regarding him and the Undersiders when you stepped through a bottomless pit that actually had a bottom, for once. It turns out you’re in this strange new land called “MTGS” (it said so on the wooden sign) and you see 12 other people.. things? Whatever, and you don’t know how to get back to the City. Morpheus, 10 minutes after you witness Cyan’s death, quietly comes up to you and whispers. “You should form another Undersider group,” he intones into your ear. “Maybe it might help you get out of this strange, strange, place.”
Factional Abilities (faction as a whole may use each once per day/night cycle):
Mafioso: You are a member of the Mafia, which consists of 7hawk77 (Brian Laborn aka Grue), Antny223 (Dexter Morgan), and Tanarin (The Kid). You may talk to your fellow Mafioso using this QUICKTOPIC.
Factional Kill: Each Night, the Mafia may send one of its players to kill another player.
Passive Abilities:
Kill Flavor: Your kill flavor will be “pummeled”.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Control the lynch, or make it so that such control is inevitable.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
“Tonight’s the night.”
Welcome to uPick Mafia, Antny223! You are Dexter Morgan (from Dexter), the Mafia Rolecop. You’re a vigilante serial killer that operates by the “The Code of Harry” which means that you only kill other murders after finding conclusive evidence that they are guilty of murder, and you must dispose of all evidence so you don’t get caught. You’re guided by an inner voice called the “Dark Passenger” which compels you to kill on a regular basis.
As you hunt for the Trinity Killer, you hear a sound and immediately everything goes black. You wake in up the middle of a dark road, with 12 other strange figures. Almost immediately, you hear the Dark Passenger intoning in your mind, and you know you must kill soon. Someone lays his hand onto your shoulder, making you tense up a bit. “You know you want to satisfy that urge,” Morpheus says. “I know the best way for you to do this.”
Factional Abilities (faction as a whole may use each once per day/night cycle):
Mafioso: You are a member of the Mafia, which consists of 7hawk77 (Brian Laborn aka Grue), Antny223 (Dexter Morgan), and Tanarin (The Kid). You may talk to your fellow Mafioso using this QUICKTOPIC.
Factional Kill: Each Night, the Mafia may send one of its players to kill another player.
Active Abilities:
Seeing Red: Each Night, you may target another player. By using bloodstain analysis, you will learn that player’s role name.
Passive Abilities:
Kill Flavor: Your kill flavor will be “beheaded”.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Control the lynch, or make it so that such control is inevitable.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, Tanarin! You are The Kid (from I Wanna Be The Guy), the Mafia Roleblocker. You’re the main protagonist of the notoriously difficult and insanely glitched game, I Wanna Be The Guy. You left home as a 15-year-old on the year 200X to defeat The Guy, but that journey is proving to be a hard and arduous one - you’re incredibly fragile and the game is very hard. Thus, you constantly yourself explode in a pool of pixellated blood - not that you die from it, anyways.
After the 72,173th person to play this twisted game vanquishes Kraidgief, you enter a dark screen. Hm, this hasn’t happened before. The screen begins to majorly glitch as your character sprite explodes, and you suddenly find yourself a 2D character inside a very real world. What’s going on?
“You want to become The Guy, don’t you?” Morpheus smiles darkly.
Factional Abilities (faction as a whole may use each once per day/night cycle):
Mafioso: You are a member of the Mafia, which consists of 7hawk77 (Brian Laborn aka Grue), Antny223 (Dexter Morgan), and Tanarin (The Kid). You may talk to your fellow Mafioso using this QUICKTOPIC.
Factional Kill: Each Night, the Mafia may send one of its players to kill another player.
Active Abilities:
Very Small Gun: Each Night, you may target another player. By shooting him or her with tiny bullets, you will incapacitate that player and roleblock him or her.
Passive Abilities:
Kill Flavor: Your kill flavor will be “shot”.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Control the lynch, or make it so that such control is inevitable.
You don't usually like to kill, but extenuating circumstances regarding your disappearance from The City leave you with no other choice. After the LOIC deciminated ika, you move into action. You conjure a cloud of darkness that muted all sounds - perfect for masking sneaky's scream as you pummel him endlessly.
"I'm not sure what I am. I just know there's something dark in me. I hide it. I certainly don't talk about it, but it's there always, this Dark Passenger."
Your urges to kill have been growing louder and louder over these past few days, but you've successfully resisted it to allow your intrepid leader do the bidding. You can't resist a little blood, however, and cut some of Burning_Earth's skin off, exposing some blood.
Back at the hideout, you do what you know best - splatter analysis. It takes the entirety of the night, but..
Antny223 learns that Burning_Earth is a Town Mason.
"Picasso had a saying - good artists copy, great artists steal", and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.
After the fantastic success of the Apple II, you moved on - the Apple III had way too many different designers to be successful product, and you disliked the Lisa. You took a look at Xerox's graphical user interface 7hawk77, and after that you moved onto the Macintosh, usurping Jeff Raskin for control of the Macintosh.
You have successfully tracked 7hawk77. 7hawk77 targeted sneakyhomunculus.
Blood. Sometimes it sets my teeth on edge, other times it helps me control the chaos.
Your urges to kill can't be satisfied with the sight of blood anymore. With your supernatural fellow dead, you decide to take matters into your own hands. You create a special Kill Room for Void, one that is framed with an episode of "The Walking Dead" rerunning for days on end, British World War II propaganda, and a very large Gyarados wallpaper. You beat Void's head over until he is unconscious and then wrap his body around with thick sheets of duct tape. You awaken Void, chainsaw at the ready.
"HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU WERE CONSPIRATING WITH ARCHMAGE ETERNAL AND ISO AGAINST THE ZOMBIES?"
"DID YOU HAVE A LOT OF FUN ATTACKING FULCRUM IN WORLD WAR II?"
You pace around the Apple building, debating on whose ideas to steal from. However, you overhear someone talking about a boardroom coup. You call a board meeting to resolve the matter, in which you see Apple's board of directors side with John Sculley. Frustrated with your exodus, you quit Apple five months later.
The Kid has been tasked to perform the lethal kill. There's only two problems with that...
1. Steve Jobs is an actual real-life, breathing figure.
2. The Kid is some virtual character inside a game.
Luckily, the problem is easy to fix.
Dexter calls Michael "Kayin" O'Reilly and asks for him to program Steve Jobs into the game. When O'Reilly refuses, Dexter clears his throat. "Why, yes, I'm Dexter Morgan."
The programming task gets finished within a day, and The Kid blows him up. Steve Jobs dies almost instantaneously.
Town Mason
Town Mason
Town Bodyguard
Town Tracker
Five Vanillas
Mafia Goon
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Roleblocker
You'll notice that one of the reviewers was ganderin_dan, and it turns out, that's not a coincidence: I stole the setup from his Basic (feel free to read to see me and rest of town act derpy). I liked his setup decisionmaking over there (as well as the high-powered nature of the game, but the roles themselves lending themselves to behavioral analysis). I'll quote his thoughts here:
Quote from ganderin_dan »
I chose the roles I did for one main reason: I wanted them to facilitate a good learning environment. I think Cops are incredibly unfun to play against as scum, even with a Godfather and/or RB, and are an easy way out for the town when they don't have sufficient behavioral analysis. So the investigative role became a Tracker, which still required some thought process with a non-zero result.
I initially wanted to put a Doctor in the game, but AsianInvasion advised me that it could be very difficult for the scum to win a game with Masons claimed, which was something I hadn't really considered. So, we downgraded that to a bodyguard as well (and considered giving him a bulletproof vest, but left that out for simplicity's sake). Coincidentially, it wouldn't have really mattered, since Niv roleblocked Kpaca both nights.
And masons were put in for two reasons. Having another confirmed townie to bounce reads off of is something I wanted to have in a game full of inexperienced players. Having someone to trust, regardless of experience, makes things much more comfortable, and really helps you sort of dip your feet into the game. Secondly, I think Zajnet's setup of Cop/Doc/Masonx2 v. Roleblocker wasn't really fair, and I wanted to see if I could design a better setup for them to be placed in.
The RB was pretty nerfed as a result of the town's downgraded power roles, so we added in a Rolecop, as the scum's main way of countering the Mason pair. Unfortunately for the town, the masons were outted Day One, and the RB was on the protective role all game.
I also think Vigs aren't conducive for learning experiences. A newer Vig can easily ruin the good play of a town by acting on his own reads, or choosing to ignore the wishes of the majority. Not to say I dislike the role, necessarily, but I don't think it belonged here.
When I first thought about running the setup I was afraid that the town had too many confirmable town roles (therefore making the PoE easy). Fortunately most of the Vanillas did not play well and some unexpected events happened (ika lynch). I do think this setup could have been very hard on the scum if the town got a good start, but that's the second time this setup's been run with a mafia victory. Hm.
I find Masons good because two alignment confirmations are very powerful in a game of this size (they also give some breathing room to the scum). The bodyguard is probably the weakest protective role and I wanted to use it in case the PRs get outed early (they're liable to do so). The Tracker was included to punish the town a bit for modgaming (as killjoy did, in one of his posts) and to provide something worthwhile for the roleblocker to roleblock.
The town played decently to poorly most of the time. hawk was caught by several people Day 1 and rightfully lynched Day 2, but the other two scum were in "safe" positions. The biggest problem with the town was most of the town not putting in the effort to look town, and such became easy mislynch targets (SelesnyaNewLife, Dagaen).
The ika lynch was awful (ika self-hammering was one of the major mistakes he made, and he possibly could have changed the outcome of the game for the better had he not self-hammered). iRebel put the town back even by tracking hawk to the kill, but town was in a pickle Day 3; they had several scummy players (Dagaen, SNL) as well as the TIMsCoT slot that was mired in apathy most of the game and Generic who.. is still unreadable/untrustworthy at the best of times
I was surprised more pressure wasn't put on Tanarin for holding up the Day. He was committing no scumtells but he didn't have any strong towntells either. Antny played very well however and got onto a lot of people's town lists, and I don't think that, with Dagaen and SNL being scapegoats/mislynch potential, the town was going to look at Antny.
The mylo situation at Day 4 was pretty bad as well - everyone was putting no work in, and Dagaen was the universal agreed-upon lynch.
Ultimately, the words I describe for this game have to come from Iso:
Quote from Iso »
I guess the scum team makes sense. Antny kept pinging me but I thought that was just because I didn't like his playstyle, and no one else seemed like a fantastic scum candidate. Shoulda looked into the lurkers! Too many awful, distracting townies in this game.
Antny was "cleared" in the town's eyes because he was putting in much more effort than most of the town as well as being reasonably competent. Tanarin never really was pressured by the town despite being lurky, and the scum were always able to point at poorly-performing townies to get their mislynches.
Mafia MVP goes to Antny223 for obvious reasons. I don't think that anyone was going to make a lynch on Antny happen successfully.
Town MVP is a little more up-for-grabs, since I can't really award a *true* MVP award here - I can only pick out the best of who performed. I think that iRebel was a strong voice of reason throughout the game and made the best effort to solve the game in his QT and in-thread, and his track target at least got hawk.
On modding/flavor:
I tried to make the flavor "Morpheus invites everyone to X, then he gets mysteriously killed" but unfortunately I had to abandon that plan Day 1 when I realized I wouldn't have time to write all the flavor scenes (I wanted to continue with the comics, too). This game's flavor was mostly "easter eggs" - there's a ton of references/injokes in this game to other mafia games from the past. I hope some people got the references, however vague. (I'll start: The Day 1 title, plus the theme of the game, was planned to be MTGS Mafia Redux 2: The Invitational's storyline continued)
I'd definitely like feedback on my modding - I'm a fan of placing a vote count on every page, and I hope prods/replacements were prompt (As you can see, I tried to maintain a prod chart in the modboard but it got overtaxing after a while). I personally tried to stay out of the game as much as possible - announcements were always tucked into vote counts and stuff.
I'm also not sure what I could have done to move the game forward in the period on Day 3 where all the wagons were stagnating, and TIMsCoT and Tanarin were the only two not voting. Hm.
I was also a bit disappointed at no one using their notes QTs except for iRebel - I would have liked to see some of your thought processes.
Regardless, thanks to all for playing (special thanks to killjoy for replacing in) and I hope you all join a future of mine soon. (I know I have some interesting Minis in the queue)
If I missed something or you would like for me to elucidate something I touched on here, don't hesitate to ask.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I think you did a fabulous job modding the game, Proph. I definitely liked having a vote count per page, which is something I will probably do myself as a host in the future.
The note QT idea is neat; I was a fan of it and may end up stealing that idea in the future too. I share your disappointment that others didn't utilise theirs — I was looking forward to seeing others thought processes as well after being killed.
All in all, I enjoyed this game, and I am looking forward to playing in your future games.
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I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
I should have said so before but as well as the effort put into the flavour scenes (I was knowingly pushing my luck rolecopping Tan ), I think the deadline structure worked really well here. The optional extensions gave the town enough wriggle room on Day 3 with Tan/TiMsCoT and the other days all wrapped up before the deadline - showing we don't need to always have a month to sort ourselves out. I definitely think I might nick the structure for my game.
The QTs are a neat idea as well but I can see that not all players want to share their thoughts which is fine.
I didn't realize the QT was meant for notes, I just thought it was the hydra QT. I pretty much put my notes in the thread though. I like the QT idea though. Not sure I like receiving my role pm in one.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Mmkay. I mean, I knew it was your account, I just didn't pick up that it was also Rhand's until I checked the letters in the name and realized, "Hey, you can spell 'Generic' with the letters here. Wait, that means something's probably left over...aha! Rhand!"
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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Dagaen, Garrett, Town Vanilla, lynched Day 4.
Generic, Arthur Dent, Town Vanilla, endgamed Day 4.
Burning_Earth, Atticus Finch, Town Mason, endgamed Day 4.
Killjoy, Seppel, Town Vanilla, endgamed Day 4.
Antny223, Dexter Morgan, Mafia Rolecop, won on Day 4.
Tanarin, The Kid, Mafia Roleblocker, won on Day 4.
The Mafia (consisting of 7hawk77, Antny223, and Tanarin) have won Basic #85, uPick Mafia.
Setup + modnotes + QTs will come momentarily. You may all post in the thread now.
UUU Azami, Lady of Scrolls
RRR Diaochan, Artful Beauty
UR(U/R) Tibor, Lumia, & Melek (WIP)
Mafia Stats
Antny played a great game.
Also first scum win.
UUU Azami, Lady of Scrolls
RRR Diaochan, Artful Beauty
UR(U/R) Tibor, Lumia, & Melek (WIP)
Mafia Stats
Grats
The SNL lynch was bull***** though. Should never have happened.
Anyway, good game everyone, other than ika42 I would be happy to play with all of you again (particular would like to play with Generic in a game when I'm town - see if I can read him).
Ika can be added to my suprisingly fast-growing blacklist. SELF HAMMERING AS TOWN IS BAD! ALWAYS!
I didn't clear Void by mistake. I correctly read Void from his first post like I always do. Hell, I did it before his first post this time. Maybe I should start doing that instead of waiting for him to post from now on.
Anyway, Day 1 ika lynch was terrible, but I guess I can't really say much since I couldn't get my head into the game and was absent for that lynch. Sorry for letting everyone down - this is the second Mafia game I've ever replaced out of and I was really depending on TMCT to pull up our activity but he went absent around the same time I did and I just couldn't keep it up at the busy point I had reached in my life. My apologies especially go to Proph.
Honestly, I don't know why we didn't lynch Dagaen on Day 1. That was awful and I'd have found the scum on that wagon in a heartbeat. There were some townies in this game that were playing so terribly that I just couldn't find the motivation or time to rally the troops and go after you guys. I was suspicious of you, Antny, but I wrote it off because I have a hard time reading your mindset - it was like in Walking Dead, where had I been town, I would've been convinced you were scum there, too - your playstyle is kind of abrasive and your mindset comes across to me as smug. I've noticed that I butt heads with players who tend to play like myself. So, take it as a compliment, as I have a huge ego.
Also, I direct you guys to post #752, where my only scum read is SNL (with a question mark), and my only two uncertain reads were Tanarin and Antny. Yes, I said we should lynch Dagaen, but that's because he was a safe lynch and I wanted to get him out of the way for an endgame scenario as a liability. I suppose it should have raised flags to me that Antny mentioned he was going to check me out and never really did, though I wasn't paying enough attention to the game to notice that (which is surprising, because the easiest way for me to read people is to poke them and see how they interact with myself, usually).
Pleased I can still read Generic well, too.
TMCT, let's hydra again sometime when both of our lives aren't derping to a major extent.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Outdated Mafia Stats
UUU Azami, Lady of Scrolls
RRR Diaochan, Artful Beauty
UR(U/R) Tibor, Lumia, & Melek (WIP)
Mafia Stats
7hawk77: “Generic's gameplay can be off the wall, schizophrenic and sometimes brilliant. Often times he ends up digging himself very deep very quickly. He's gotten frustrated and claimed randomly and can be very temperamental. This isn't a bad thing for him as a player because it makes him harder to read because his actions are more based on his mood than on his alignment.”
You are a self-proclaimed unreadable mafia player, who likes to play three or more games at a time (on MTGS, Coloholics, and mafiascum). You’re a very good scum player and you enjoy hydraing with the community on mafiascum and with yours truly.
On a normal day, as you were rereading MTGS Mafia Redux 2, you suddenly see your iPhone screen enlarge, and a text box present in front of you. What’s more, you can’t seem to look anywhere else. Hm..
Passive Abilities:
Generically Purple: Due to your popularity on mafiascum and the fact that you hydra with a lot of players there, you share a mason chat with Burning_Earth (Atticus Finch). You are mod-confirmed town to each other, and you may talk in the mason chat any time.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, Burning_Earth! You are Atticus Finch (from To Kill a Mockingbird), the Town Mason. You’re a famous lawyer and resident of Maycomb County and acted as the public defense lawyer for Tom Robinson. Unfortunately, as we all know, Tom Robinson was proven innocent but was convicted by the jury anyways due to the black prejudice going on in that time. You’re proclaimed as a hero and role model for many people for being an upstanding citizen and your wisdom.
After Jem broke his arm, you dozed off to sleep reading one of your favorite books, The Gray Ghost. When you woke up, you’re in a strange land, nothing at all like Maycomb County. You think it’s a dream, but after a couple of minutes, you encounter the only resident of this land, Morpheus. “Don’t you wish you could re-do the Tom Robinson trial, except without the prejudice going on in 20th century America?”
Passive Abilities:
Testimony: Due to your heroic status as a lawyer and your model of integrity, you share a mason chat with Void (Generic). You are mod-confirmed town to each other, and you may talk in the mason chat any time.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
This ... is ... ZomboCom.
Welcome.
This is ZomboCom; welcome ... to ZomboCom.
You can do anything at ZomboCom.
Anything at all. The only limit is yourself.
Welcome ... to ZomboCom.
Welcome ... to ZomboCom.
This is ... ZomboCom.
Welcome ... to ZomboCom!
This is ZomboCom, welcome!
Yes. This ... is ZomboCom.
This is ZomboCom!
And welcome to you, who have come to ZomboCom.
Anything ... is possible ... at ZomboCom.
You can do ... anything at ZomboCom.
The infinite is possible at ZomboCom.
The unattainable is unknown at ZomboCom.
Welcome to ZomboCom.
This ... is ZomboCom.
Welcome to ZomboCom.
Welcome. This ... is ... ZomboCom.
Welcome ... to ZomboCom!
Welcome ... to ZomboCom.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, ika42! You are Zombo.com (from the Internet), the Town Bodyguard. You’re a humorous website created in 1999 to parody the long flash animations that were popular around the net around the time. The site’s well-known as an internet phenomenon, but your creator intended it to be nothing more than a piece of absurdist comedy. Oh well!
Active Abilities:
Flash Introduction: Each Night, you may target a player. If that player would be killed that Night, you die instead.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, iRebel! You are Steve Jobs (from Real Life), the Town Tracker. You’re the CEO of Apple and a famous technology visionary, famous for promoting simplicity and intuition above everything else. You’re a pioneer of the computing revolution and you also co-founded Pixar. Above all else, you’re stubborn, and willing to do anything it takes to create a perfect product, which you’ve manifested through your products - the iPhone, the iPad, and the Macintosh.
It seems as if life has given you one final miracle, in which you’ve been somehow conscious and awake in this place called “MTGS”. As you walk through this strange place, you’re greeted by the one individual of this place, Morpheus. “I’m not sure if I can find a use for you, here..” he quietly questions to himself. “Whatever. Go meet the 12 other people here - I’m sure you’ll be useful, somehow.”
Active Abilities:
“Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.”: Each Night, you may target a player. You will learn who that player targeted.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
One night when you were out robbing a bank, you entered the bank but instead entered the land of “MTGS”. You see no one here, but you can’t seem to get back to the City. After sneaking around for a while, you encounter a coated man named, apparently, Morpheus. “Your stealth skills may prove useful. For what, you say? Oh, you’ll just have to see.” He cracks a grin.
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Morpheus, the strange host of this world, smiles. “I could use some sandwiches and tea.”
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
As you dive towards space, the space-time continuum shatters, like it’s a normal thing. Instead of being dropped towards nothingness and infinite quantum physics matter that my brain cannot comprehend, your fate is much simpler - a roll and a dive towards MTGS. Morpheus holds down his glasses, revealing his eyes. “What’s the fate of Discworld now?”
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
YOU HAVE NOT YET APPEASED SEPPEL
DID YOU LIGHT THE INCENSE BEFORE YOUR GOOD NIGHT RITUAL TO SEPPEL?
HAVE YOU TREKKED UP SEPPEL MOUNTAIN TO BEG THE SEPPEL GURU FOR FORGIVENESS?
IN WHAT ORDER DID YOU BURN YOUR LINKIN PARK CDs?
You have no special abilities.
Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
You were out to meet Coil to arrange things regarding him and the Undersiders when you stepped through a bottomless pit that actually had a bottom, for once. It turns out you’re in this strange new land called “MTGS” (it said so on the wooden sign) and you see 12 other people.. things? Whatever, and you don’t know how to get back to the City. Morpheus, 10 minutes after you witness Cyan’s death, quietly comes up to you and whispers. “You should form another Undersider group,” he intones into your ear. “Maybe it might help you get out of this strange, strange, place.”
Factional Abilities (faction as a whole may use each once per day/night cycle):
Mafioso: You are a member of the Mafia, which consists of 7hawk77 (Brian Laborn aka Grue), Antny223 (Dexter Morgan), and Tanarin (The Kid). You may talk to your fellow Mafioso using this QUICKTOPIC.
Factional Kill: Each Night, the Mafia may send one of its players to kill another player.
Passive Abilities:
Kill Flavor: Your kill flavor will be “pummeled”.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Control the lynch, or make it so that such control is inevitable.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Welcome to uPick Mafia, Antny223! You are Dexter Morgan (from Dexter), the Mafia Rolecop. You’re a vigilante serial killer that operates by the “The Code of Harry” which means that you only kill other murders after finding conclusive evidence that they are guilty of murder, and you must dispose of all evidence so you don’t get caught. You’re guided by an inner voice called the “Dark Passenger” which compels you to kill on a regular basis.
As you hunt for the Trinity Killer, you hear a sound and immediately everything goes black. You wake in up the middle of a dark road, with 12 other strange figures. Almost immediately, you hear the Dark Passenger intoning in your mind, and you know you must kill soon. Someone lays his hand onto your shoulder, making you tense up a bit. “You know you want to satisfy that urge,” Morpheus says. “I know the best way for you to do this.”
Factional Abilities (faction as a whole may use each once per day/night cycle):
Mafioso: You are a member of the Mafia, which consists of 7hawk77 (Brian Laborn aka Grue), Antny223 (Dexter Morgan), and Tanarin (The Kid). You may talk to your fellow Mafioso using this QUICKTOPIC.
Factional Kill: Each Night, the Mafia may send one of its players to kill another player.
Active Abilities:
Seeing Red: Each Night, you may target another player. By using bloodstain analysis, you will learn that player’s role name.
Passive Abilities:
Kill Flavor: Your kill flavor will be “beheaded”.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Control the lynch, or make it so that such control is inevitable.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
After the 72,173th person to play this twisted game vanquishes Kraidgief, you enter a dark screen. Hm, this hasn’t happened before. The screen begins to majorly glitch as your character sprite explodes, and you suddenly find yourself a 2D character inside a very real world. What’s going on?
“You want to become The Guy, don’t you?” Morpheus smiles darkly.
Factional Abilities (faction as a whole may use each once per day/night cycle):
Mafioso: You are a member of the Mafia, which consists of 7hawk77 (Brian Laborn aka Grue), Antny223 (Dexter Morgan), and Tanarin (The Kid). You may talk to your fellow Mafioso using this QUICKTOPIC.
Factional Kill: Each Night, the Mafia may send one of its players to kill another player.
Active Abilities:
Very Small Gun: Each Night, you may target another player. By shooting him or her with tiny bullets, you will incapacitate that player and roleblock him or her.
Passive Abilities:
Kill Flavor: Your kill flavor will be “shot”.
Please note that you may only use one active ability per day/night cycle unless an ability says otherwise.
Win Condition: Control the lynch, or make it so that such control is inevitable.
Please confirm via QuickTopic.
Night Actions
N1 Actions:
7hawk77 (kill): 7hawk77 kills sneakyhomunculus (successful)
7hawk77 has successfully killed sneakyhomunculus.
Tanarin (kill/roleblock): Tanarin roleblocks Generic (successful)
Tanarin shoots at Generic's "The Noob Comic Generic Evil Creature" avatar, making it flicker.
Tanarin has successfully roleblocked Generic.
Antny223 (kill/rolecop): Antny rolecops Burning_Earth (sees Mason)
Your urges to kill have been growing louder and louder over these past few days, but you've successfully resisted it to allow your intrepid leader do the bidding. You can't resist a little blood, however, and cut some of Burning_Earth's skin off, exposing some blood.
Back at the hideout, you do what you know best - splatter analysis. It takes the entirety of the night, but..
Antny223 learns that Burning_Earth is a Town Mason.
iRebel (track): 7hawk77; SUCCESSFUL (sees hawk target sneakyhomunculus)
After the fantastic success of the Apple II, you moved on - the Apple III had way too many different designers to be successful product, and you disliked the Lisa. You took a look at Xerox's
graphical user interface7hawk77, and after that you moved onto the Macintosh, usurping Jeff Raskin for control of the Macintosh.You have successfully tracked 7hawk77. 7hawk77 targeted sneakyhomunculus.
Dead: sneakyhomunculus
N2 Actions:
Tanarin (kill/roleblock): Tanarin roleblocks iRebel (successful)
But this is uPick Mafia, where people don't do that. So you'll have to settle for iRebel being roleblocked.
Tanarin has successfully roleblocked iRebel.
Antny223 (kill/rolecop): Antny kills Void (successful)
Your urges to kill can't be satisfied with the sight of blood anymore. With your supernatural fellow dead, you decide to take matters into your own hands. You create a special Kill Room for Void, one that is framed with an episode of "The Walking Dead" rerunning for days on end, British World War II propaganda, and a very large Gyarados wallpaper. You beat Void's head over until he is unconscious and then wrap his body around with thick sheets of duct tape. You awaken Void, chainsaw at the ready.
"HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU WERE CONSPIRATING WITH ARCHMAGE ETERNAL AND ISO AGAINST THE ZOMBIES?"
"DID YOU HAVE A LOT OF FUN ATTACKING FULCRUM IN WORLD WAR II?"
"WHY DID YOU BOTCH YOUR CLAIM IN MOD MAFIA 8?"
That's the spirit.
Antny has successfully killed Void.
iRebel (track): SelesnyaNewLife; UNSUCCESSFUL (gets roleblocked notificatin)
You have been roleblocked.
Dead: Void
N3 Actions:
Tanarin (kill/roleblock): Kill iRebel (successful)
1. Steve Jobs is an actual real-life, breathing figure.
2. The Kid is some virtual character inside a game.
Luckily, the problem is easy to fix.
Dexter calls Michael "Kayin" O'Reilly and asks for him to program Steve Jobs into the game. When O'Reilly refuses, Dexter clears his throat. "Why, yes, I'm Dexter Morgan."
The programming task gets finished within a day, and The Kid blows him up. Steve Jobs dies almost instantaneously.
Tanarin has successfully killed iRebel.
Antny223 (kill/rolecop): Rolecop Tanarin (successful)
With that O'Reilly call, Dexter says, "Could you send me a guide to the game itself, please? I'd sincerely like to beat it."
"It's very difficult to beat, though!"
"Well, make it easier, and send me the guide to that.
A text walkthrough of I Wanna Be the Guy is emailed to Dexter hours later.
Antny223 learns that Tanarin is a Mafia Roleblocker.
iRebel (track): Dagaen; UNSUCCESFUL (fails due to kill)
Dead: iRebel
Spectator Chat (contains links to personal QTs)
Mafia Chat
Mason Chat
Mod Board
SelesnyaNewLife & Arnnaria Mentor Chat
The setup was:
Town Mason
Town Mason
Town Bodyguard
Town Tracker
Five Vanillas
Mafia Goon
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Roleblocker
You'll notice that one of the reviewers was ganderin_dan, and it turns out, that's not a coincidence: I stole the setup from his Basic (feel free to read to see me and rest of town act derpy). I liked his setup decisionmaking over there (as well as the high-powered nature of the game, but the roles themselves lending themselves to behavioral analysis). I'll quote his thoughts here:
When I first thought about running the setup I was afraid that the town had too many confirmable town roles (therefore making the PoE easy). Fortunately most of the Vanillas did not play well and some unexpected events happened (ika lynch). I do think this setup could have been very hard on the scum if the town got a good start, but that's the second time this setup's been run with a mafia victory. Hm.
I find Masons good because two alignment confirmations are very powerful in a game of this size (they also give some breathing room to the scum). The bodyguard is probably the weakest protective role and I wanted to use it in case the PRs get outed early (they're liable to do so). The Tracker was included to punish the town a bit for modgaming (as killjoy did, in one of his posts) and to provide something worthwhile for the roleblocker to roleblock.
The town played decently to poorly most of the time. hawk was caught by several people Day 1 and rightfully lynched Day 2, but the other two scum were in "safe" positions. The biggest problem with the town was most of the town not putting in the effort to look town, and such became easy mislynch targets (SelesnyaNewLife, Dagaen).
The ika lynch was awful (ika self-hammering was one of the major mistakes he made, and he possibly could have changed the outcome of the game for the better had he not self-hammered). iRebel put the town back even by tracking hawk to the kill, but town was in a pickle Day 3; they had several scummy players (Dagaen, SNL) as well as the TIMsCoT slot that was mired in apathy most of the game and Generic who.. is still unreadable/untrustworthy at the best of times
I was surprised more pressure wasn't put on Tanarin for holding up the Day. He was committing no scumtells but he didn't have any strong towntells either. Antny played very well however and got onto a lot of people's town lists, and I don't think that, with Dagaen and SNL being scapegoats/mislynch potential, the town was going to look at Antny.
The mylo situation at Day 4 was pretty bad as well - everyone was putting no work in, and Dagaen was the universal agreed-upon lynch.
Ultimately, the words I describe for this game have to come from Iso:
Antny was "cleared" in the town's eyes because he was putting in much more effort than most of the town as well as being reasonably competent. Tanarin never really was pressured by the town despite being lurky, and the scum were always able to point at poorly-performing townies to get their mislynches.
Mafia MVP goes to Antny223 for obvious reasons. I don't think that anyone was going to make a lynch on Antny happen successfully.
Town MVP is a little more up-for-grabs, since I can't really award a *true* MVP award here - I can only pick out the best of who performed. I think that iRebel was a strong voice of reason throughout the game and made the best effort to solve the game in his QT and in-thread, and his track target at least got hawk.
On modding/flavor:
I tried to make the flavor "Morpheus invites everyone to X, then he gets mysteriously killed" but unfortunately I had to abandon that plan Day 1 when I realized I wouldn't have time to write all the flavor scenes (I wanted to continue with the comics, too). This game's flavor was mostly "easter eggs" - there's a ton of references/injokes in this game to other mafia games from the past. I hope some people got the references, however vague. (I'll start: The Day 1 title, plus the theme of the game, was planned to be MTGS Mafia Redux 2: The Invitational's storyline continued)
I'd definitely like feedback on my modding - I'm a fan of placing a vote count on every page, and I hope prods/replacements were prompt (As you can see, I tried to maintain a prod chart in the modboard but it got overtaxing after a while). I personally tried to stay out of the game as much as possible - announcements were always tucked into vote counts and stuff.
I'm also not sure what I could have done to move the game forward in the period on Day 3 where all the wagons were stagnating, and TIMsCoT and Tanarin were the only two not voting. Hm.
I was also a bit disappointed at no one using their notes QTs except for iRebel - I would have liked to see some of your thought processes.
Regardless, thanks to all for playing (special thanks to killjoy for replacing in) and I hope you all join a future of mine soon. (I know I have some interesting Minis in the queue)
If I missed something or you would like for me to elucidate something I touched on here, don't hesitate to ask.
I liked the flavor, it was pretty funny.
Also, I liked how hawk went from pregame "let Iso lynch himself" to "let's kill Iso" on Night 1.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The note QT idea is neat; I was a fan of it and may end up stealing that idea in the future too. I share your disappointment that others didn't utilise theirs — I was looking forward to seeing others thought processes as well after being killed.
All in all, I enjoyed this game, and I am looking forward to playing in your future games.
UUU Azami, Lady of Scrolls
RRR Diaochan, Artful Beauty
UR(U/R) Tibor, Lumia, & Melek (WIP)
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I should have said so before but as well as the effort put into the flavour scenes (I was knowingly pushing my luck rolecopping Tan ), I think the deadline structure worked really well here. The optional extensions gave the town enough wriggle room on Day 3 with Tan/TiMsCoT and the other days all wrapped up before the deadline - showing we don't need to always have a month to sort ourselves out. I definitely think I might nick the structure for my game.
The QTs are a neat idea as well but I can see that not all players want to share their thoughts which is fine.
I didn't realize the QT was meant for notes, I just thought it was the hydra QT. I pretty much put my notes in the thread though. I like the QT idea though. Not sure I like receiving my role pm in one.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player