This day 1 really doesn't inspire me to want to complete 5 more of these games. Even if AF is somehow scum, it's just going to feel like we threw darts and got lucky.
Wanted words from Thor before we lynched, but seems unlikely that he'll be back prior to Zionite ending day officially.
If I'm not around, make sure to poke Thor with sticks - he claimed the Fate wagon was scum driven, but I couldn't actually name who his scum reads are if I tried, outside of Iso. Make sure there's consistency there - he's probably town, but that made my skin crawl a bit.
If you just want a top 3 people I'm willing to lynch that would be Iso, Cy, and DGB - and I've been openly discussing those opinions throughout the day...so I'm guessing that's not what you're asking.
If you want scumbuddies if I am correct about Iso then I would say Vi and then probably you.
Vi has been ducking the Iso situation pretty hardcore despite direct questioning, and you've been equally lurky and quiet about it (well "equally" actually less, but you get the point)
Wanted words from Thor before we lynched, but seems unlikely that he'll be back prior to Zionite ending day officially.
If I'm not around, make sure to poke Thor with sticks - he claimed the Fate wagon was scum driven, but I couldn't actually name who his scum reads are if I tried, outside of Iso. Make sure there's consistency there - he's probably town, but that made my skin crawl a bit.
1) This day 1 really doesn't inspire me to want to complete 5 more of these games.
2) Even if AF is somehow scum, it's just going to feel like we threw darts and got lucky.
1) I only remember hearing about two more games.
2) I disagree.
@Thor - you were claiming that you wanted no part of this wagon because it was 'scum driven'. A scum read on Vi makes sense there I suppose, I just didn't recall you ever mentioning one.
Mm. Iso not voting for the counter-wagon is kind of weird, and I'm not sure what to make of that. Plausible that they're both scum.
@Thor - you were claiming that you wanted no part of this wagon because it was 'scum driven'. A scum read on Vi makes sense there I suppose, I just didn't recall you ever mentioning one.
Mm. Iso not voting for the counter-wagon is kind of weird, and I'm not sure what to make of that. Plausible that they're both scum.
Plausible covers a lot of ground.
But that wagon was fast and came from nowhere - how often does that land on scum in your experience?
I know mine.
Even look at the wagons over the course of the Day
It's pretty much always Iso + other guy.
Think about that one for a moment, roll it around why it looked like that.
There's the layout, Jim. The man who killed Jean Dexter is somewhere down there. Can't blame him for hiding, can you?
The day's work is over now. People are on their way home. They're tired, they're hot, they're hungry. But, they're on their way home. In the newspaper, there's a new murder story. It's hit the headlines, Full layout of pictures on page three. It's really quite sensational. It helps while away the time when you live out in Jackson Heights. Don't bite your nails, honey. Very few stenographers are murdered.
__________
At the 10th Precinct...
A tall, buff man is brought in for questioning, held for the murder of Jean Dexter. While the suspects sits in interrogation, Homicide squad meets to pour over the evidence collected that morning.
"The only good fingerprints we got were of the maid and Jean Dexter...The Baltimore police say they can't locate anyone so far who answers Henderson's description... The pajamas in Dexter's apartment show nothing under the X-ray. They're an English import and never been washed. All stores that carry the line are being checked. That's it, Captain."
"Very little to go on. This man Niles... how's his alibi for last night?"
"He seems in the clear. So does everybody else we've connected with so far."
"So Henderson's our only suspect..."
"How about this man?"
He crosses to the blackboard, picks up chalk. Underneath Henderson's name he writes: JOSEPH P. MCGILLICUDDY
"Who's he?"
(smiling) "McGillicuddy is his name for any unknown party in a case."
"You mean two men did the murder?"
"Maybe there were five. All I know is there was more than one."
"How do you know?"
He looks around the room, then sits on his desk. He pats it. "This is a bed... For a moment, I'm an attractive little lady. How would you chloroform me, Mr. Henderson?"
He studies the question, takes a handkerchief out of his pocket. "I guess the best way'd be if I stood behind you." He goes behind the sitting investigator and gestures how he would lock his forearm over his throat, and use the other hand to apply the chloroform.
"Correct -- that's the way one man would do it." He jumps down, opens drawer, brings out a pile of 8 by 10 photos, shuffles them, selects one. "However, we just got the photographs. They show finger marks on both arms."
He tosses the photo on desk. All crowd around it. It shows chin, neck, shoulders only. Visible are some blue marks. "That means a man stood behind her and held her arms with both hands, while Henderson or someone else chloroformed her. A strong man, with thick, strong fingers."
"Wait, patrol just brought in a man fitting that description!"
"Well, I'd say it's about time we start questioning him."
__________
[MS] Aggressive_Fate
Mafia Role Cop Willie Garza
You are Willie Garza, the mastermind and brawn of the burglary conspiracy that ended with Jean Dexter dead in her bathtub. You only wanted a bigger cut for doing more of the work, but she wouldn't let up. You [redacted] killed her and made it look like a suicide, but the Homicide squad knew better. Now you're on the run, and you'll take out anyone, including your partners if you have to, to escape from the police. You are a former wrestler and acrobat with a talent for playing the harmonica. But you're not all brawn; you're a pretty smart fella too.
You may activate your team's kill or your own ability at night. [redacted] Due to your peak physical condition and mental acuity, you may figure out the identity of any target in a night. By submitting the name of a player during the night phase, you may learn their role name and abilities, if any.
You win when the Town team no longer has the majority of the population.
Aggressive_Fate has been jailed by the Homicide squad, charged with the murder of Jean Dexter. His accomplices are still free, and his lawyer refuses to agree to any deals to loosen Aggressive_Fate's lips.
It is now Night 1. Do not post. Night ends in 2 days (September 9th).
Another day. Another ball of fire rising in the summer sky. The city is quiet now, but it will soon be pounding with activity. This time yesterday, Jean Dexter was just another pretty girl, but now she's the marmalade on 10,000 pieces of toast.
At the 10th Precinct...
Homicide squad convenes at dawn, hoping to get a word out of Willie Garza regarding his accomplices.
"Any luck?"
"Besides asking for CheeriOats and a cigarette, I got nothing."
"Figures. We'll have to go back over the clues to see if we missed something."
"There's one other thing; remember the doctor we questioned yesterday?"
"Dr. Stoneman? Of course, what about him?"
"He's missing."
__________
Kami of Lunacy has turned up missing. Whether he was offed by the unaccounted for accomplices, or if he skipped town, Homicide squad cannot locate him.
[MS] Kami of Lunacy
Town Doctor Dr. Lawrence Stoneman
You are Dr. Lawrence Stoneman, a distributor of pharmaceuticals in Manhattan. Unfortunately for you, Homicide squad has taken an interest in you for prescribing Jean Dexter sleeping medication. Not only that, but you're involved in the burglary conspiracy with some criminals, tipping them off to big heists. You even had your own home burglarized. But you're no killer. The guilt of having been partially responsible for Dexter's death leads you to confess everything to the police upon being revealed. You would rather die than accept your fate, but the police wouldn't allow you to commit suicide. So you resign yourself to help the Homicide squad, volunteering your doctoral expertise to protect who you can.
Due to your status as a doctor, you are able to protect one selected target each night, preventing any kills targeting the same player.
You win when the Mafia team is wiped out.
Due to evidence in the case, Iso has been cleared of suspicion and removed from the investigation.
[MTGS] Iso
Town Vanilla Mrs. Halloran
You are Mrs. Halloran, house-wife of Jimmy Halloran. You have a son, Billy, and a nice duplex in the suburbs of New York City. Your duties consist of cooking, cleaning, laundry, and childcare. You still leave the disciplining to Jimmy though. You don't know anything about the murder investigation other than your Jimmy works harder than all the rest of them. You don't like that he works late but you love him all the same.
Town Vanilla do not have any abilities.
You win when the Mafia team is wiped out.
Player List:
[MTGS] desCoures
[MS] Llamarble
[MTGS] DYH
[MTGS] Cyan
[MS] Thor665
[MTGS] Voxxicus
[MTGS] Cyouni
[MS] Nachomamma8
[MS] Vierni
It is now Day 2. You may post. With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Deadline is September 23rd at 11:59pm CST.
I'm expecting a good explanation out of Llamarble as to why he looks to have been lying yesterDay. (And don't try anything about both a Toughguy and a Poisoner in the same game.)
I'm also expecting reasons from the two people above. (I'm not expecting terribly good ones.)
Thor's probably scum, though I still need to check through yesterDay to make sure.
I had to submit my kill during the day yesterday, and it occurs at the beginning of the next day. Pretty sure I didn't specify about that.
Anyhow, unless you think the scum are godly overpowered I'm pretty much conftown at this point. You can still post your meta stuff if you want, but surprise surprise it's not relevant compared to subsequent events.
I picked Iso because I wanted to make sure I didn't target the player DGB protected; otherwise I'd probably have targeted Voxxicus.
I was going to target Fate until we decided to lynch him.
I'm not sad for the noise reduction, but did you really think that was a bus from Fate?
Meh, I do agree with Llama's power point - there are not double killing scum, plus his flavor fits the Detective claim, even if it is rather Vig like insomuch as Iso is dead, but the flavor of the kill is a very towny sounding kill.
I don't think Cyouni makes sense as a scumbuddy the way Fate was talking about the slot. That looks like a chosen mislynch for the day to me.
I'm expecting a good explanation out of Llamarble as to why he looks to have been lying yesterDay. (And don't try anything about both a Toughguy and a Poisoner in the same game.)
I'm also expecting reasons from the two people above. (I'm not expecting terribly good ones.)
Thor's probably scum, though I still need to check through yesterDay to make sure.
Do you think Llamarble is scum who claimed his real role (poisoner) with real flavor kill (taken out of the investigation) and then lied about when it would work because he's scum?
I'm not sad for the noise reduction, but did you really think that was a bus from Fate?
Meh, I do agree with Llama's power point - there are not double killing scum, plus his flavor fits the Detective claim, even if it is rather Vig like insomuch as Iso is dead, but the flavor of the kill is a very towny sounding kill.
I don't think Cyouni makes sense as a scumbuddy the way Fate was talking about the slot. That looks like a chosen mislynch for the day to me.
Vote: DYH
This makes more sense to me by a large amount.
Iso was Fate's chosen mislynch. Fate likes bussing weak partners, and I think he'd view Cyouni as a weak partner. Can you at least vote with me for the moment and help me sort him out properly? If he comes up town for real reasons instead of LOLinteractions, then I will help you lynch DYH because he's my other pick for scum other than Voxxius. I also need to figure out who else I might be paranoid of, but that's pretty much the lynchpool of my day today.
I'm expecting a good explanation out of Llamarble as to why he looks to have been lying yesterDay. (And don't try anything about both a Toughguy and a Poisoner in the same game.)
I'm also expecting reasons from the two people above. (I'm not expecting terribly good ones.)
Thor's probably scum, though I still need to check through yesterDay to make sure.
This post is really, really bad.
Cyouni's vote on AF was also completely negligible(though to be fair, so was mine).
I would cast a vote here, but I don't want to apply the third vote on someone this quickly into the day, especially someone whose claim we've already seen. I would be willing to lynch Cyouni ultimately, though.
Nacho and Vierni more or less started the wagon, which is very much in their favour. The timing of Vierni's vote creates a vague possibility of an attempt to no-lynch, but with Iso as town and Vierni never wavering that's almost certainly not the case. Plus, Vierni also called for llamarble to kill Fate back when Iso looked to be the lynch. These two should be town.
I'd be giving llamarble more grief for his unvote/vote thing, except it happened in the space of a couple of hours, and so doesn't mean anything. In any case, if he can replicate his kill tonight, he should be clear.
DYH and Cyan's votes were timed strangely enough that either vote could easily be bussing. Vierni's actually right about #915, now that Iso's flipped town and llamarble is less likely to be scum. I need to comb their previous posts for their mentions of Fate. I seem to recall Cyan not actually talking much about MS players...
I also need to look at Cyouni's previous mentions of Fate. As the hammer vote, his vote there means nothing to his alignment.
On Iso's wagon -
Fate was scum and I am town. That leaves us with Voxxicus and Thor.
Thor is an interesting case - stridently against lynching Fate and all for lynching Iso all the way into twilight. I'd think that if he were Fate's scumbuddy he'd have acknowledged the inevitability of that wagon before twilight, but that way lies WIFOM.
Still, at first glance, he looks better than Voxxicus. In context, with llamarble more likely to be town now, his posts following llamarble's claim look much worse - where he accepts the claim as true without reservation at first, but casts doubt on it later. Mm. He did call for llamarble to shoot Fate as well, though... but on balance I still don't like his late day list, which had Iso, Nacho, Fate, and DYH as his bottom four. Especially his reasoning for having Nacho and DYH down there.
...mm.
Vote: Voxxicus for now, pending me having more time to read.
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I'm not convinced that any scum was going to leave themself sitting on Iso's wagon once it became completely obvious that AF was getting lynched(yes yes, I get the irony of me making this statement). I certainly don't think that this is sufficient valid reasoning for voting Voxxicus.
DYH and Cyan's votes were timed strangely enough that either vote could easily be bussing. Vierni's actually right about #915, now that Iso's flipped town and llamarble is less likely to be scum. I need to comb their previous posts for their mentions of Fate. I seem to recall Cyan not actually talking much about MS players...
Maybe you meant Cyouni but said DYH? That would make much more sense than what you've said here. Also, I talked about MS players plenty. I found(and still do) Thor and Vierni to be thoroughly town, had a null read on AF and llamarble, and found KoL and Nacho to be scummy. I was wrong about KoL, but I'm still not completely convinced about Nacho.
I swear no one was paying attention to my posts. Otherwise they wouldn't be wondering about my stance on Fate, to the point where some posts appear as though they only started reading in the final two days.
I had to submit my kill during the day yesterday, and it occurs at the beginning of the next day. Pretty sure I didn't specify about that.
Anyhow, unless you think the scum are godly overpowered I'm pretty much conftown at this point. You can still post your meta stuff if you want, but surprise surprise it's not relevant compared to subsequent events.
That makes significantly more sense.
I'll wait for a second shot to be sure, but this fits a lot more with Kami's role than I previously thought.
I'm expecting a good explanation out of Llamarble as to why he looks to have been lying yesterDay. (And don't try anything about both a Toughguy and a Poisoner in the same game.)
I'm also expecting reasons from the two people above. (I'm not expecting terribly good ones.)
Thor's probably scum, though I still need to check through yesterDay to make sure.
Do you think Llamarble is scum who claimed his real role (poisoner) with real flavor kill (taken out of the investigation) and then lied about when it would work because he's scum?
No, in that case he would have been lying about his role - he'd have been a toughguy (I believe it's known as a strongman to you) who lied about his role to get through the day.
Can you at least vote with me for the moment and help me sort him out properly?
We got him up to L-2 (or -1, I forget) yesterday and got a claim. Do you really need more pressure today to read him?
Fate was literally screaming at me yesterday to leave Iso alone and help lynch Cy at a point where it would have been quite easy for him to get with the Iso wagon because he'd been part of it already once before (and went there again). I do not see that as a likely bus action at that stage of the game.
I do have another shot today.
I don't think I'm actually going to use it though, since much as I am awesome and godly and all, it would put us from odds to evens, and so one of our town-sourced kills would be underinformed. If we want I can just shoot whoever we decide to lynch today instead of lynching them to prove my role harder, but I feel like it's pretty established at this point and that could fail hard into a block or something.
Fate was literally screaming at me yesterday to leave Iso alone and help lynch Cy at a point where it would have been quite easy for him to get with the Iso wagon because he'd been part of it already once before (and went there again). I do not see that as a likely bus action at that stage of the game.
I am going to go back and check this. If it's true, I agree with Thor that this make Cyouni incredibly unlikely to be scum.
How much did I say about you other than "Let's lynch DGB?"
That's not the same thing at all.
That was enough; not only that, but you pretty much had no reason to vote me.
And this is such a skeevy dodge of my question.
I thought you fancied policy lynches, why the sudden shrinking violet act?
Because, I'm scum and don't want in on the scum lynch about to happen.
Keep working that awesome logic there DGB, you'll go far.
Thor.
Who do you think is scum other than Iso, and why?
I hope you'll spend every last minute of it badgering Thor to vote Fate.
Just moved cross-country, so it's possible that I'm all out of whack time zone wise, admittedly.
I want a response to my reads question from Thor if possible before myself/Cyouni hammer.
I prefer to think of it as PoE, with claims and behavior narrowing down the pool of possible scum.
I'd still be more comfortable with an Iso lynch, but Fate isn't a terrible one.
Wanted words from Thor before we lynched, but seems unlikely that he'll be back prior to Zionite ending day officially.
If I'm not around, make sure to poke Thor with sticks - he claimed the Fate wagon was scum driven, but I couldn't actually name who his scum reads are if I tried, outside of Iso. Make sure there's consistency there - he's probably town, but that made my skin crawl a bit.
If you just want a top 3 people I'm willing to lynch that would be Iso, Cy, and DGB - and I've been openly discussing those opinions throughout the day...so I'm guessing that's not what you're asking.
If you want scumbuddies if I am correct about Iso then I would say Vi and then probably you.
Vi has been ducking the Iso situation pretty hardcore despite direct questioning, and you've been equally lurky and quiet about it (well "equally" actually less, but you get the point)
That work for you?
Also possibly snark - I can't tell the difference even if others can.
2) I disagree.
Aggressive_Fate - 7 - Nachomamma8, Vierni, llamarble, Kami of Lunacy, DYH, Cyan, Cyouni
@Thor - you were claiming that you wanted no part of this wagon because it was 'scum driven'. A scum read on Vi makes sense there I suppose, I just didn't recall you ever mentioning one.
Mm. Iso not voting for the counter-wagon is kind of weird, and I'm not sure what to make of that. Plausible that they're both scum.
Deadline is in 49 minutes by my time. I'll be doing a VC shortly.Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 7
Aggressive_Fate - 7 - Nachomamma8, Vierni, Llamarble, Kami of Lunacy, DYH, Cyan, Cyouni - (L-0)
Iso - 4 - Thor665, Aggressive_Fate, Voxxicus, desCoures - (L-3)
Llamarble - 1 - Iso - (L-6)
Players not voting: None
It is now Twilight. Lynch scene forthcoming.
Plausible covers a lot of ground.
But that wagon was fast and came from nowhere - how often does that land on scum in your experience?
I know mine.
It's pretty much always Iso + other guy.
Think about that one for a moment, roll it around why it looked like that.
I would cuddle.
The day's work is over now. People are on their way home. They're tired, they're hot, they're hungry. But, they're on their way home. In the newspaper, there's a new murder story. It's hit the headlines, Full layout of pictures on page three. It's really quite sensational. It helps while away the time when you live out in Jackson Heights. Don't bite your nails, honey. Very few stenographers are murdered.
__________
At the 10th Precinct...
A tall, buff man is brought in for questioning, held for the murder of Jean Dexter. While the suspects sits in interrogation, Homicide squad meets to pour over the evidence collected that morning.
"The only good fingerprints we got were of the maid and Jean Dexter...The Baltimore police say they can't locate anyone so far who answers Henderson's description... The pajamas in Dexter's apartment show nothing under the X-ray. They're an English import and never been washed. All stores that carry the line are being checked. That's it, Captain."
"Very little to go on. This man Niles... how's his alibi for last night?"
"He seems in the clear. So does everybody else we've connected with so far."
"So Henderson's our only suspect..."
"How about this man?"
He crosses to the blackboard, picks up chalk. Underneath Henderson's name he writes: JOSEPH P. MCGILLICUDDY
"Who's he?"
(smiling) "McGillicuddy is his name for any unknown party in a case."
"You mean two men did the murder?"
"Maybe there were five. All I know is there was more than one."
"How do you know?"
He looks around the room, then sits on his desk. He pats it. "This is a bed... For a moment, I'm an attractive little lady. How would you chloroform me, Mr. Henderson?"
He studies the question, takes a handkerchief out of his pocket. "I guess the best way'd be if I stood behind you." He goes behind the sitting investigator and gestures how he would lock his forearm over his throat, and use the other hand to apply the chloroform.
"Correct -- that's the way one man would do it." He jumps down, opens drawer, brings out a pile of 8 by 10 photos, shuffles them, selects one. "However, we just got the photographs. They show finger marks on both arms."
He tosses the photo on desk. All crowd around it. It shows chin, neck, shoulders only. Visible are some blue marks. "That means a man stood behind her and held her arms with both hands, while Henderson or someone else chloroformed her. A strong man, with thick, strong fingers."
"Wait, patrol just brought in a man fitting that description!"
"Well, I'd say it's about time we start questioning him."
__________
[MS] Aggressive_Fate
Mafia Role Cop Willie Garza
You are Willie Garza, the mastermind and brawn of the burglary conspiracy that ended with Jean Dexter dead in her bathtub. You only wanted a bigger cut for doing more of the work, but she wouldn't let up. You [redacted] killed her and made it look like a suicide, but the Homicide squad knew better. Now you're on the run, and you'll take out anyone, including your partners if you have to, to escape from the police. You are a former wrestler and acrobat with a talent for playing the harmonica. But you're not all brawn; you're a pretty smart fella too.
You may activate your team's kill or your own ability at night. [redacted] Due to your peak physical condition and mental acuity, you may figure out the identity of any target in a night. By submitting the name of a player during the night phase, you may learn their role name and abilities, if any.
You win when the Town team no longer has the majority of the population.
At the 10th Precinct...
Homicide squad convenes at dawn, hoping to get a word out of Willie Garza regarding his accomplices.
"Any luck?"
"Besides asking for CheeriOats and a cigarette, I got nothing."
"Figures. We'll have to go back over the clues to see if we missed something."
"There's one other thing; remember the doctor we questioned yesterday?"
"Dr. Stoneman? Of course, what about him?"
"He's missing."
__________
Kami of Lunacy has turned up missing. Whether he was offed by the unaccounted for accomplices, or if he skipped town, Homicide squad cannot locate him.
[MS] Kami of Lunacy
Town Doctor Dr. Lawrence Stoneman
You are Dr. Lawrence Stoneman, a distributor of pharmaceuticals in Manhattan. Unfortunately for you, Homicide squad has taken an interest in you for prescribing Jean Dexter sleeping medication. Not only that, but you're involved in the burglary conspiracy with some criminals, tipping them off to big heists. You even had your own home burglarized. But you're no killer. The guilt of having been partially responsible for Dexter's death leads you to confess everything to the police upon being revealed. You would rather die than accept your fate, but the police wouldn't allow you to commit suicide. So you resign yourself to help the Homicide squad, volunteering your doctoral expertise to protect who you can.
Due to your status as a doctor, you are able to protect one selected target each night, preventing any kills targeting the same player.
You win when the Mafia team is wiped out.
Due to evidence in the case, Iso has been cleared of suspicion and removed from the investigation.
[MTGS] Iso
Town Vanilla Mrs. Halloran
You are Mrs. Halloran, house-wife of Jimmy Halloran. You have a son, Billy, and a nice duplex in the suburbs of New York City. Your duties consist of cooking, cleaning, laundry, and childcare. You still leave the disciplining to Jimmy though. You don't know anything about the murder investigation other than your Jimmy works harder than all the rest of them. You don't like that he works late but you love him all the same.
Town Vanilla do not have any abilities.
You win when the Mafia team is wiped out.
Deadline is September 23rd at 11:59pm CST.
I'm also expecting reasons from the two people above. (I'm not expecting terribly good ones.)
Thor's probably scum, though I still need to check through yesterDay to make sure.
Anyhow, unless you think the scum are godly overpowered I'm pretty much conftown at this point. You can still post your meta stuff if you want, but surprise surprise it's not relevant compared to subsequent events.
I picked Iso because I wanted to make sure I didn't target the player DGB protected; otherwise I'd probably have targeted Voxxicus.
I was going to target Fate until we decided to lynch him.
Meh, I do agree with Llama's power point - there are not double killing scum, plus his flavor fits the Detective claim, even if it is rather Vig like insomuch as Iso is dead, but the flavor of the kill is a very towny sounding kill.
I don't think Cyouni makes sense as a scumbuddy the way Fate was talking about the slot. That looks like a chosen mislynch for the day to me.
Vote: DYH
This makes more sense to me by a large amount.
Vote: Thor
Gee, I wonder why you didn't want to vote for Fate?
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
Do you think Llamarble is scum who claimed his real role (poisoner) with real flavor kill (taken out of the investigation) and then lied about when it would work because he's scum?
Iso was Fate's chosen mislynch. Fate likes bussing weak partners, and I think he'd view Cyouni as a weak partner. Can you at least vote with me for the moment and help me sort him out properly? If he comes up town for real reasons instead of LOLinteractions, then I will help you lynch DYH because he's my other pick for scum other than Voxxius. I also need to figure out who else I might be paranoid of, but that's pretty much the lynchpool of my day today.
This post is really, really bad.
Cyouni's vote on AF was also completely negligible(though to be fair, so was mine).
I would cast a vote here, but I don't want to apply the third vote on someone this quickly into the day, especially someone whose claim we've already seen. I would be willing to lynch Cyouni ultimately, though.
Iso as town and Fate as scum is useful. It gives us a clear near-deadline dichotomy from yesterday's late wagons.
Aggressive_Fate - 7 - Nachomamma8, Vierni, Llamarble, Kami of Lunacy, DYH, Cyan, Cyouni - (L-0)
Iso - 4 - Thor665, Aggressive_Fate, Voxxicus, desCoures - (L-3)
On Fate's wagon -
Nacho and Vierni more or less started the wagon, which is very much in their favour. The timing of Vierni's vote creates a vague possibility of an attempt to no-lynch, but with Iso as town and Vierni never wavering that's almost certainly not the case. Plus, Vierni also called for llamarble to kill Fate back when Iso looked to be the lynch. These two should be town.
I'd be giving llamarble more grief for his unvote/vote thing, except it happened in the space of a couple of hours, and so doesn't mean anything. In any case, if he can replicate his kill tonight, he should be clear.
DYH and Cyan's votes were timed strangely enough that either vote could easily be bussing. Vierni's actually right about #915, now that Iso's flipped town and llamarble is less likely to be scum. I need to comb their previous posts for their mentions of Fate. I seem to recall Cyan not actually talking much about MS players...
I also need to look at Cyouni's previous mentions of Fate. As the hammer vote, his vote there means nothing to his alignment.
On Iso's wagon -
Fate was scum and I am town. That leaves us with Voxxicus and Thor.
Thor is an interesting case - stridently against lynching Fate and all for lynching Iso all the way into twilight. I'd think that if he were Fate's scumbuddy he'd have acknowledged the inevitability of that wagon before twilight, but that way lies WIFOM.
Still, at first glance, he looks better than Voxxicus. In context, with llamarble more likely to be town now, his posts following llamarble's claim look much worse - where he accepts the claim as true without reservation at first, but casts doubt on it later. Mm. He did call for llamarble to shoot Fate as well, though... but on balance I still don't like his late day list, which had Iso, Nacho, Fate, and DYH as his bottom four. Especially his reasoning for having Nacho and DYH down there.
...mm.
Vote: Voxxicus for now, pending me having more time to read.
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Maybe you meant Cyouni but said DYH? That would make much more sense than what you've said here. Also, I talked about MS players plenty. I found(and still do) Thor and Vierni to be thoroughly town, had a null read on AF and llamarble, and found KoL and Nacho to be scummy. I was wrong about KoL, but I'm still not completely convinced about Nacho.
Do you have another shot today?
Yes or no question, I do have a reason for asking.
Withholding other thoughts until this is answered.
That makes significantly more sense.
I'll wait for a second shot to be sure, but this fits a lot more with Kami's role than I previously thought.
No, in that case he would have been lying about his role - he'd have been a toughguy (I believe it's known as a strongman to you) who lied about his role to get through the day.
That makes a lot more sense. Disregard!
Because I fear bussing above all things in this life.
We got him up to L-2 (or -1, I forget) yesterday and got a claim. Do you really need more pressure today to read him?
Fate was literally screaming at me yesterday to leave Iso alone and help lynch Cy at a point where it would have been quite easy for him to get with the Iso wagon because he'd been part of it already once before (and went there again). I do not see that as a likely bus action at that stage of the game.
What am I missing here?
I don't think I'm actually going to use it though, since much as I am awesome and godly and all, it would put us from odds to evens, and so one of our town-sourced kills would be underinformed. If we want I can just shoot whoever we decide to lynch today instead of lynching them to prove my role harder, but I feel like it's pretty established at this point and that could fail hard into a block or something.
I am going to go back and check this. If it's true, I agree with Thor that this make Cyouni incredibly unlikely to be scum.