Now I feel completely justified in voting The Cold Monarch for being against flavor.
Care to point out why Hawk posting wrestling flavored posts is scummy? Because if posting wrestling flavored content is scummy, then I don't wanna be town.
Why do you need to feel justified in voting? Bad conscience?
Good that you don't wanna be town, because I don't think you are.
Vote: LnGrrrR
Read what I wrote again. I said NOW I feel justified. I never said I needed to feel justified. In other words, my vote WASN'T justified, and now it is. In even simpler terms, it is no longer an RVS vote.
Scratching my head. Your the only one attacking Shark and using his meta to justify it. But say that meta is not really scum.
Go back and look at that claim and think of the game we're in and what the game is based on.
Dude. I'm not attacking Shark. I'm not even voting Shark. I've simply asked Shark a question. And I would appreciate if he stops sitting over there while we beat each other up and answers it.
I don't believe Shark's answer to Eron is referring to the ongoing game we're both on since he wasn't a Survivor there, plus he confirmed that he broke RVS with that answer, therefore my question stands.
Flavor argument for my statement; can't I just try to survive the match?
Can you not be silly when people are having serious arguments over whether or not your statement was truthful because you've claimed to have ended RVS with it as you are known for doing that?
Approaching the matter for second time in a playful way probably means you were joking back there, but regardless, there was zero need for that. Stop distracting us and start helping please.
EWP: @Generic, that post doesn't make Shark scum, he just likes to break RVS and brag about it.
Well, it appears I've missed RVS by a long shot. Notes/Thoughts thus far:
Generic: #26 despite Shark indicating he broke RVS, shows no interest in pursuing. Kosakosa: #12 see's Shark's claim, and does nothing...#23 calls for Shark to break? #28 "But seriously now.." #48 In your own words, why "scummiest ever possible"?
dkingsland967: #32 What? It's a trap? #57 Explains Voxxicus: #33 Waited for AE to back up before voting. #40 brings up flavor excess for Hawk/Generic after TCM. "Reeks" it does not. #51 though makes sense Archmage Enternal: #42 Good boy. #47 Check timestamps. Not opportunistic. #53 How so not? Rhand: #35 Of all the questions to ask, that? #43 Also correct question for how he worded it. #45 Shouldn't one be justified for non-RVS votes? 7hawk77: #34 absolutely no interest in the actual happenings of the game at this point. #52 Behind the times TheColdMonarch: #38 I also call out hawk for that post, but not for that reason. LnGrrrR: #41 Reasonable point Sharkfinnigan: #9 claims survivor. #49 Point?
I'm thinking either Vox or Kosa at the moment, not sure which.
Flavor argument for my statement; can't I just try to survive the match?
Can you not be silly when people are having serious arguments over whether or not your statement was truthful because you've claimed to have ended RVS with it as you are known for doing that?
Approaching the matter for second time in a playful way probably means you were joking back there, but regardless, there was zero need for that. Stop distracting us and start helping please.
EWP: @Generic, that post doesn't make Shark scum, he just likes to break RVS and brag about it.
Been at work so more silly and less actually reading.
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Now I feel completely justified in voting The Cold Monarch for being against flavor.
Care to point out why Hawk posting wrestling flavored posts is scummy? Because if posting wrestling flavored content is scummy, then I don't wanna be town.
Why do you need to feel justified in voting? Bad conscience?
Good that you don't wanna be town, because I don't think you are.
Vote: LnGrrrR
Read what I wrote again. I said NOW I feel justified. I never said I needed to feel justified. In other words, my vote WASN'T justified, and now it is. In even simpler terms, it is no longer an RVS vote.
I hope that's clear enough for you.
It must be my English. If I try reading it with other intonations, it seems as if you were voting him for being against flavor in the first place and now feel justified for it ><
@Misting: I've played three or four games with Shark where he, consciously or not, broke RVS with incredibly scummy posts, normally making him the first player brought to L-2 and sometimes lynched.
IIRC, he was town in the vast majority of those games, so I learned to simply ignore the scumminess within his RVS-breaker because I know he does that regardless of alignment. Shark cannot be easily read on D1.
But exactly because he does that regardless of alignment that I feel the need to ask him why he did it after play time is over. He can't be given a free pass on it just because he does it every time, but at the same time that isn't a reason to believe he's scum because that alone doesn't say anything about his alignment.
Scratching my head. Your the only one attacking Shark and using his meta to justify it. But say that meta is not really scum.
Go back and look at that claim and think of the game we're in and what the game is based on.
Dude. I'm not attacking Shark. I'm not even voting Shark. I've simply asked Shark a question. And I would appreciate if he stops sitting over there while we beat each other up and answers it.
It looks to me that your trying to paint him into a corner. I'm not liking it.
I don't believe Shark's answer to Eron is referring to the ongoing game we're both on since he wasn't a Survivor there, plus he confirmed that he broke RVS with that answer, therefore my question stands.
"the game we're in" is referring to this game.
Btw why are you naked voting me again?
Yeah your not voting him. Your casting him in a scummy light and letting the town push the wagon.
@Misting: I've played three or four games with Shark where he, consciously or not, broke RVS with incredibly scummy posts, normally making him the first player brought to L-2 and sometimes lynched.
IIRC, he was town in the vast majority of those games, so I learned to simply ignore the scumminess within his RVS-breaker because I know he does that regardless of alignment. Shark cannot be easily read on D1.
But exactly because he does that regardless of alignment that I feel the need to ask him why he did it after play time is over. He can't be given a free pass on it just because he does it every time, but at the same time that isn't a reason to believe he's scum because that alone doesn't say anything about his alignment.
AE, Im aware of what a Royal Rumble is, but they usually don't refer to the wrestlers as "survivors"... Probably because they already have the "Survivor Series" PPV. That said I did stop watching regularly mid 2000s, so if they started using that term after that point then that would make sense.
If it's something he needs to be questioned on, as you say, then why the "light" feel, and why did you let it slide around a bit after the :facepalm:? Also, again, in your own words explain how this is "scummiest ever possible" (or something paraphrased like that).
archmage makes a convincing arguement there, to the point im starting to wonder if i was suckered into a tactical play. There is no vote on him from kosa, and kosa is cleverly scorning those who pick up the ball he is throwing and running with it.
unvote
kosa, you get the right of reply here, i will decide if a vote is worthwhile after you respond to archmages accusations.
1. I'm not actually a survivor.
2. I wanted to come into this game making a survivor gambit just because I thought I could generate reactions from it, but opted not to because the setup would likely not have a survivor (before when put up to a vote it was the most normal setup).
3. EtRs post lured me to "break" rvs, so i had to entertain. Too early to find a good reason to break it. So I went with the survivor deal I had in mind.
4. Apparently I never broke rvs, though I led people to break it apparently.
5. unvote since rvs is over.
6. Ill read over the game in a little bit to see what's going on now.
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It looks to me that your trying to paint him into a corner. I'm not liking it.
So asking questions now = paint people into corners. Ok. Way to completely disregard everything that I said afterwards about how that doesn't mean anything in regards to his alignment.
I wouldn't know it. I'm not american, I've probably watched like two hours of wrestling in my whole life. The wrestling people that I know about, like The Rock and Hulk Hogan, aren't exactly what I would call "survivors".
Yeah your not voting him. Your casting him in a scummy light and letting the town push the wagon.
Again, please lecture me as how the "Did you seriously claim Survivor?" question equals to casting him in a scummy light. I've NEVER attacked Shark for it, I just wanted an answer.
See, your stuck on this. You keep bringing this up but Shark did nothing of the sort.
Yes he did. I've ignored the first time on silliness ground, but then he said, full words on, that he meant it. I just wanted to know his reasoning for doing so, and before noticing that he was just being silly I didn't defend nor accuse him of anything.
There are absolutely no contradictions there:
1-) Shark posted his RVS-Breaker;
2-) I joked about it;
3-) He confirmed that wasn't a joke;
4-) I've joked a bit more, then, IN THE SAME POST, I've said "Now that the joke time is over, [question]". Which was the moment where I got serious.
Before that, I was just as being silly as everybody else. Then Shark, at the time, confirmed he wasn't being silly with his claim. So I've asked him that question.
I simply don't get what is so hard to understand about it. I make jokes virtually all the time while playing this game, and I was doing that until the point I said the joke time was over.
Furthermore, I've never ever called Shark scum for that because I know that doesn't make him scum. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't inquire him about it the moment I said I was done joking around as he said he was being serious.
@Misting: I said he normally breaks RVS with the most scummiest possible post ever in a general sense, not that it was the case here. Check Ataghan for a quick example.
I just hadn't unvoted yet... because I found his comment about sitting back and letting us all beat each other up fairly scummy and I didn't have a great reason to vote anyone else.
I just hadn't unvoted yet... because I found his comment about sitting back and letting us all beat each other up fairly scummy and I didn't have a great reason to vote anyone else.
However, it is probably time to...
Unvote
I think he meant why Shark and not Kosa; not why Shark and not no one
I just hadn't unvoted yet... because I found his comment about sitting back and letting us all beat each other up fairly scummy and I didn't have a great reason to vote anyone else.
However, it is probably time to...
Unvote
Gotta love day one of a new game. Post explosion.
Regarding Shark - I have no feelings one way or another. He's literally known for this stuff in the early game. Hence my first post calling it out. I would expect nothing less from him.
Regarding KK - pretty much the same as Shark. His early game play is crazier than most and I don't have a problem with it yet. I will say that AE made some good points though so I'm certainly watching him.
Now on to the post I quoted. This was extremely self conscious and I got major scum vibes so I'm going to Unvote: Shark ; Vote: DKingsland967
I just hadn't unvoted yet... because I found his comment about sitting back and letting us all beat each other up fairly scummy and I didn't have a great reason to vote anyone else.
However, it is probably time to...
Unvote
Now on to the post I quoted. This was extremely self conscious and I got major scum vibes so I'm going to Unvote: Shark ; Vote: DKingsland967
A tad opportunistic of you there misting.
And to both you and ETR, does that opinion of DKing stand even with him being as n00b as you can get?
On its own, perhaps but when taking #89 into account with it, I don't think so. #89 showed a contradiction in thought and vote then he follows up with the self conscious post.
You guys are aware that my vote for Shark was an RVS vote, right?
And also, he case against Kosa isn't strong enough to warrant a vote IMO. He's right about Shark's RVS activities... in the Survival Horror game he posted what looked to be a blatant fishing poll to end RVS, ended up being lynched Day 1 and flipped Town.
What about post 89?
At worst its riding my coat tails by tagging on an additional to my opinion. Whats so sinister about that? Had he been a veteran and /barned me with the comment about AE commiting to a vote would you have seen it as a concern?
The way I'm reading #89 shows that he finds Kosa at least somewhat scummy but his vote was on Shark as an RVS vote. Why not move it? Then in #92 he explains that he didn't like Shark's "sit back" post enough to Unvote previously but he goes on to Unvote anyway.
Mm. I can see Hawk or Generic being scum due to excessive RVS flavor/joking, but I'm more interested in Kosa.
The post regarding Shark feels super forced - not genuine at all, and him pointing at his user title reeks of being self-conscious.
I was just having fun, you know that I'm a lighthearted player. I've learned the hard way how to not take Shark seriously whenever he breaks RVS with the scummiest post ever possible.
Seriously as in scummy. Shark is ALWAYS brought to L-2 and sometimes lynched by posting something terrible during RVS, and I've been in way too many games with him to know that he's not necessarily scum when he does that.
That said, I wanna know why he felt the need to claim what he did, because I don't see why.
You say he does this stuff. Say it's nothing, that you ignore him early on. But you are not doing that. You jumped on him the first chance you could outside of random. It looks fake. That you planned this from the start.
Something royally stinks here.
I also want to see more posts from TCM.
I'm watching DKingsland967 also. For entirely different reasons that I'll sit on.
I'm ok with being jumped on... it's more valuable experience than reading completed games to help me learn to watch how I speak about things so I don't get mislynched for coming off scummy.
AE seems +Town. Kosa seems null... AE is right about how he jumped on Shark out of nowhere, but Kosa's points about Shark were also totally valid.
Also, a question about Shark's alleged Survivor claim... if I understand its general design, Survivor is NOT an anti-town role, correct?
You say he does this stuff. Say it's nothing, that you ignore him early on. But you are not doing that. You jumped on him the first chance you could outside of random. It looks fake. That you planned this from the start.
You are, again, misrepping me. I didn't jump on him. I didn't accuse him. I didn't put a finger on his nose. I've merely asked a question and wanted an answer.
I said that the fact he does it means nothing on his alignment, sure. Anyone who has played enough games with Shark should know that. However, his answer to my question could have denoted something else about his alignment that his meta never would. After he stated he wasn't joking, I wanted to know why he broke RVS like that, and what could be the mindset behind it.
The fact that I've learned to ignore the scumminess on his RVS-Breaker posts doesn't mean I won't ask him about them in order to better understand his alignment, especially because Shark is a player that I (and most people from what I've seen) have trouble reading early on.
Riddle me this: You don't feel the slightest motivation to inquire him about why he had made it? Sure, now he's already answered, but what did you think about it at the time?
Without making this a tutorial, if you are town you shouldn't care how you sound, you should be putting your attentions into analysing others. My concern is I'm giving you too much leniency for your status... Especially since I only have your word that you are new to mafia as a whole.
Fair enough.
From an analysis standpoint, is it not curious at all how quickly Misting jumped on EtR's vote for me?
Now I feel completely justified in voting The Cold Monarch for being against flavor.
Care to point out why Hawk posting wrestling flavored posts is scummy? Because if posting wrestling flavored content is scummy, then I don't wanna be town.
He has a whole dialogue thing going, but the bigger picture is that it looks like he is joking around for the sake of joking around. RVs is fine, screwing around isn't.
Mm. I can see Hawk or Generic being scum due to excessive RVS flavor/joking, but I'm more interested in Kosa.
The post regarding Shark feels super forced - not genuine at all, and him pointing at his user title reeks of being self-conscious.
I was just having fun, you know that I'm a lighthearted player. I've learned the hard way how to not take Shark seriously whenever he breaks RVS with the scummiest post ever possible.
I could think of scummier, but that's not the point.
Seriously as in scummy. Shark is ALWAYS brought to L-2 and sometimes lynched by posting something terrible during RVS, and I've been in way too many games with him to know that he's not necessarily scum when he does that.
That said, I wanna know why he felt the need to claim what he did, because I don't see why.
You say he does this stuff. Say it's nothing, that you ignore him early on. But you are not doing that. You jumped on him the first chance you could outside of random. It looks fake. That you planned this from the start.
Something royally stinks here.
I also want to see more posts from TCM.
I'm watching DKingsland967 also. For entirely different reasons that I'll sit on.
I seriously doubt he planned to jump on him from the start. Scum don't plan who to mislynch on night 0.
If you want to see more posts from me, the thread has to stop being so spammy. My last post was less than 12 hours ago, and my first response when I get back from to see the thread pushed 100 posts is something along the lines of: "Bugger that, I am going to play League of Legends/Civ 5/ect.
You are the one being misleading here kosa. You clearly goaded a RVS ending post from shark. He sort of obliges and is claiming it was a joke comment in the spirit if flavour and you pounced on it. Then when it seemed to have votes tying to him you suddenly weasel away from it by claiming you never read into sharks RVS breaking posts (the one you goaded) as he always seems scummy from them.
That's a subtle foundation laid for causing suspicion on him and then walking away as an innocent party, even defending him for when this is analysed later.
I can see exactly where arch age is coming from and you haven't convinced me kosa.
unvote, vote kosakosa
Jesus Christ.
His survivor post came two posts before my first post in the fricking game.
In his address to me after I asked when he would break RVS, he confirmed that his previous post was serious. Hence my serious question back at him.
You're accusing me of attempting to form a wagon on Shark based on a single fricking question, that was primarily asked to help me define the alignment of a player that I have trouble reading and who historically is easily mislynched when Town precisely because people latch on his RVS-breaker post instead of thoughtfully analyzing the bigger picture.
And you do that while being as bandwaggony as one may get, after my wagon gets steam. Unvoting Shark, when his wagon leads nowhere. Right.
Your jump on him was EXACTLY what I wanted to avoid early on, when it's impossible to get a clear read on him. I've defended him before on those same reasons because I know his M.O makes him a mislynch much more often than a scum lynch.
I thought we were still being silly. Apparently about half of us were, at least!
Read what I wrote again. I said NOW I feel justified. I never said I needed to feel justified. In other words, my vote WASN'T justified, and now it is. In even simpler terms, it is no longer an RVS vote.
I hope that's clear enough for you.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
The vote is random?
RVS IS OVER.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Dude. I'm not attacking Shark. I'm not even voting Shark. I've simply asked Shark a question. And I would appreciate if he stops sitting over there while we beat each other up and answers it.
I don't believe Shark's answer to Eron is referring to the ongoing game we're both on since he wasn't a Survivor there, plus he confirmed that he broke RVS with that answer, therefore my question stands.
Btw why are you naked voting me again?
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
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Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
That actually sounds kinda scummy, flavor or not...
Not quite ready to unvote yet, methinks.
Can you not be silly when people are having serious arguments over whether or not your statement was truthful because you've claimed to have ended RVS with it as you are known for doing that?
Approaching the matter for second time in a playful way probably means you were joking back there, but regardless, there was zero need for that. Stop distracting us and start helping please.
EWP: @Generic, that post doesn't make Shark scum, he just likes to break RVS and brag about it.
Generic: #26 despite Shark indicating he broke RVS, shows no interest in pursuing.
Kosakosa: #12 see's Shark's claim, and does nothing...#23 calls for Shark to break? #28 "But seriously now.." #48 In your own words, why "scummiest ever possible"?
dkingsland967: #32 What? It's a trap? #57 Explains
Voxxicus: #33 Waited for AE to back up before voting. #40 brings up flavor excess for Hawk/Generic after TCM. "Reeks" it does not. #51 though makes sense
Archmage Enternal: #42 Good boy. #47 Check timestamps. Not opportunistic. #53 How so not?
Rhand: #35 Of all the questions to ask, that? #43 Also correct question for how he worded it. #45 Shouldn't one be justified for non-RVS votes?
7hawk77: #34 absolutely no interest in the actual happenings of the game at this point. #52 Behind the times
TheColdMonarch: #38 I also call out hawk for that post, but not for that reason.
LnGrrrR: #41 Reasonable point
Sharkfinnigan: #9 claims survivor. #49 Point?
I'm thinking either Vox or Kosa at the moment, not sure which.
Been at work so more silly and less actually reading.
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Day 1 Vote Count 1
SharkFinnigan (3) - EtR, dkingsland967, Generic
KosaKosa (2) - Archmage Eternal, Voxxicus
Generic (1) - 7hawk77
EtR (1) - SharkFinnigan
The Cold Monarch (1) - LnGrrrR
7hawk77 (1) - The Cold Monarch
LnGrrrR (1) - Rhand
Currently not voting: KosaKosa, Arianrhod, fadeblue, DYH, Misting, jonpike1, hansanator and Taredas
With 18 in the ring it will take 10 to throw someone over the top rope.
It must be my English. If I try reading it with other intonations, it seems as if you were voting him for being against flavor in the first place and now feel justified for it ><
unvote
Shark is confusing the crap out of me.
IIRC, he was town in the vast majority of those games, so I learned to simply ignore the scumminess within his RVS-breaker because I know he does that regardless of alignment. Shark cannot be easily read on D1.
But exactly because he does that regardless of alignment that I feel the need to ask him why he did it after play time is over. He can't be given a free pass on it just because he does it every time, but at the same time that isn't a reason to believe he's scum because that alone doesn't say anything about his alignment.
It looks to me that your trying to paint him into a corner. I'm not liking it.
"the game we're in" is referring to this game.
Yeah your not voting him. Your casting him in a scummy light and letting the town push the wagon.
Do you know what a royal rumble is? You survive and win.
See, your stuck on this. You keep bringing this up but Shark did nothing of the sort.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Look at these contradictions.
More votes on Kosa
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
I'm sorry, I don't follow.
1. I'm not actually a survivor.
2. I wanted to come into this game making a survivor gambit just because I thought I could generate reactions from it, but opted not to because the setup would likely not have a survivor (before when put up to a vote it was the most normal setup).
3. EtRs post lured me to "break" rvs, so i had to entertain. Too early to find a good reason to break it. So I went with the survivor deal I had in mind.
4. Apparently I never broke rvs, though I led people to break it apparently.
5. unvote since rvs is over.
6. Ill read over the game in a little bit to see what's going on now.
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
If you believe this, why are you voting Shark?
So asking questions now = paint people into corners. Ok. Way to completely disregard everything that I said afterwards about how that doesn't mean anything in regards to his alignment.
I wouldn't know it. I'm not american, I've probably watched like two hours of wrestling in my whole life. The wrestling people that I know about, like The Rock and Hulk Hogan, aren't exactly what I would call "survivors".
Again, please lecture me as how the "Did you seriously claim Survivor?" question equals to casting him in a scummy light. I've NEVER attacked Shark for it, I just wanted an answer.
Yes he did. I've ignored the first time on silliness ground, but then he said, full words on, that he meant it. I just wanted to know his reasoning for doing so, and before noticing that he was just being silly I didn't defend nor accuse him of anything.
There are absolutely no contradictions there:
1-) Shark posted his RVS-Breaker;
2-) I joked about it;
3-) He confirmed that wasn't a joke;
4-) I've joked a bit more, then, IN THE SAME POST, I've said "Now that the joke time is over, [question]". Which was the moment where I got serious.
Before that, I was just as being silly as everybody else. Then Shark, at the time, confirmed he wasn't being silly with his claim. So I've asked him that question.
I simply don't get what is so hard to understand about it. I make jokes virtually all the time while playing this game, and I was doing that until the point I said the joke time was over.
Furthermore, I've never ever called Shark scum for that because I know that doesn't make him scum. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't inquire him about it the moment I said I was done joking around as he said he was being serious.
@Misting: I said he normally breaks RVS with the most scummiest possible post ever in a general sense, not that it was the case here. Check Ataghan for a quick example.
I just hadn't unvoted yet... because I found his comment about sitting back and letting us all beat each other up fairly scummy and I didn't have a great reason to vote anyone else.
However, it is probably time to...
Unvote
I think he meant why Shark and not Kosa; not why Shark and not no one
Gotta love day one of a new game. Post explosion.
Regarding Shark - I have no feelings one way or another. He's literally known for this stuff in the early game. Hence my first post calling it out. I would expect nothing less from him.
Regarding KK - pretty much the same as Shark. His early game play is crazier than most and I don't have a problem with it yet. I will say that AE made some good points though so I'm certainly watching him.
Now on to the post I quoted. This was extremely self conscious and I got major scum vibes so I'm going to
Unvote: Shark ; Vote: DKingsland967
Basically my thoughts.
Can I call you DKings from now on?
On its own, perhaps but when taking #89 into account with it, I don't think so. #89 showed a contradiction in thought and vote then he follows up with the self conscious post.
And also, he case against Kosa isn't strong enough to warrant a vote IMO. He's right about Shark's RVS activities... in the Survival Horror game he posted what looked to be a blatant fishing poll to end RVS, ended up being lynched Day 1 and flipped Town.
The way I'm reading #89 shows that he finds Kosa at least somewhat scummy but his vote was on Shark as an RVS vote. Why not move it? Then in #92 he explains that he didn't like Shark's "sit back" post enough to Unvote previously but he goes on to Unvote anyway.
Why do you think he's riding your coat tails?
Welcome back.
RVS doesn't end until I say it does.
* DYH cracks knuckles
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
You say he does this stuff. Say it's nothing, that you ignore him early on. But you are not doing that. You jumped on him the first chance you could outside of random. It looks fake. That you planned this from the start.
Something royally stinks here.
I also want to see more posts from TCM.
I'm watching DKingsland967 also. For entirely different reasons that I'll sit on.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I'd rather look at hawk. Vote 7hawk77
I feel so loved. It's just like old times *sniff*
I'm ok with being jumped on... it's more valuable experience than reading completed games to help me learn to watch how I speak about things so I don't get mislynched for coming off scummy.
AE seems +Town. Kosa seems null... AE is right about how he jumped on Shark out of nowhere, but Kosa's points about Shark were also totally valid.
Also, a question about Shark's alleged Survivor claim... if I understand its general design, Survivor is NOT an anti-town role, correct?
Thats it?
He's not a survivor. It was a joke. But survivor doesn't care who wins as long as he's there with them.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
You are, again, misrepping me. I didn't jump on him. I didn't accuse him. I didn't put a finger on his nose. I've merely asked a question and wanted an answer.
I said that the fact he does it means nothing on his alignment, sure. Anyone who has played enough games with Shark should know that. However, his answer to my question could have denoted something else about his alignment that his meta never would. After he stated he wasn't joking, I wanted to know why he broke RVS like that, and what could be the mindset behind it.
The fact that I've learned to ignore the scumminess on his RVS-Breaker posts doesn't mean I won't ask him about them in order to better understand his alignment, especially because Shark is a player that I (and most people from what I've seen) have trouble reading early on.
Riddle me this: You don't feel the slightest motivation to inquire him about why he had made it? Sure, now he's already answered, but what did you think about it at the time?
You're a bit obsessed with shades of blue, I'd say.
@fadeblue: Yeeeey naked vote
Fair enough.
From an analysis standpoint, is it not curious at all how quickly Misting jumped on EtR's vote for me?
He has a whole dialogue thing going, but the bigger picture is that it looks like he is joking around for the sake of joking around. RVs is fine, screwing around isn't.
What else am I suppose to be looking for? Language Tells? -_-
Is that directed and me or Rhand?
I seriously doubt he planned to jump on him from the start. Scum don't plan who to mislynch on night 0.
If you want to see more posts from me, the thread has to stop being so spammy. My last post was less than 12 hours ago, and my first response when I get back from to see the thread pushed 100 posts is something along the lines of: "Bugger that, I am going to play League of Legends/Civ 5/ect.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
But you didn't vote me until EtR did...
Which, FWIW, is similar to what Voxxicus did regarding Kosa on page 2. He raised questions of Kosa being scum but didn't vote until AE did.
Jesus Christ.
His survivor post came two posts before my first post in the fricking game.
In his address to me after I asked when he would break RVS, he confirmed that his previous post was serious. Hence my serious question back at him.
You're accusing me of attempting to form a wagon on Shark based on a single fricking question, that was primarily asked to help me define the alignment of a player that I have trouble reading and who historically is easily mislynched when Town precisely because people latch on his RVS-breaker post instead of thoughtfully analyzing the bigger picture.
And you do that while being as bandwaggony as one may get, after my wagon gets steam. Unvoting Shark, when his wagon leads nowhere. Right.
Your jump on him was EXACTLY what I wanted to avoid early on, when it's impossible to get a clear read on him. I've defended him before on those same reasons because I know his M.O makes him a mislynch much more often than a scum lynch.