I'll claim responsibility for Anaklusmos' body last night.
I am not a/the full/unlimited vig, though. Don't wish to claim anything beyond that.
I'd like to hear from AlphaInsidous on Vox's claim.
RR
Are you forgetting the god awful post killjoy provided during the heat of the LoT wagon that tried to distract from the LoT wagon to put momentum towards me with an awful reason and vote?
Town read on a very large part of the game, and a couple people I was slightly uneasy about, but wasn't willing to kill.
I flip flopped on killing Anak or Kill Joy but ultimately decided I'd rather lynch the person who had actually done scummy things and kill the Not Town read who would make PoE'ing the remaining scum easier.
Anak flipping town means I need to revisit some of my town reads, though, as there has to be scum hiding in there.
Possibilities are Teh JeY for promising content repeatedly but never delivering (and Cyouni dying, who was the only real vocal opposition to her), Ganderin_Dan (for the EtR push over LoT near end of that wagon) and maybe IB - it's plausible that Lennon really was just blatantly obvious scum and Captain and company tried to bus him for town credit.
Kill Joy is my only remaining actual scum read and after that I'm not sure where I want to go.
Seppel, Swishh and Void are my three strongest town reads.
Rhand is probably town due to interactions, and the blatant insistence that LoT was town even after the lynch just doesn't mesh with scum mindsets, etc.
Tom has the doublevoter thing and I've kind of glossed over his play otherwise. I /guess/ he could be a scum doublevoter with two goons flipping? Not where I'd look first, though.
Rick becomes possible scum again with Anak being town, I suppose, but my gut still says he's town for how he reacted regarding my request on day one. Possible WiFOM, etc, but wasn't willing to shoot him over it. Even if it was tempting just so I didn't have to play with him. But I Play To Win and such.
Alpha makes me a little uneasy, but he was part of the early push on LoT opposing EtR. I only see him as possible scum if EtR is as well, and they were trying to get town credit by lynching a goon over a blocker or something. Wasn't willing to shoot.
IB had Captain jumping down his precursor's throat. Not vigging based on the plausibility of bussing going down - that's more a 'when other options are exhausted' thing to explore.
I considered Ganderin_Dan, but his reads matched up so well with mine, and there was that small meta-ish point in Cythare's favor - the 3-man scum team thing.
That left uh. Kill Joy, Anak, EtR, RobRoy and Teh JeY.
Teh JeY just feels like carefree town, but needs to post content soon. A re-read of her this game made me a bit uncomfortable there's just not much there other than fluff and fun. Not to say having fun is bad but...
I felt better about EtR after LoT's flip and the subsequent re-read. I'm still not writing him off as town, as I can easily see LoT hopping on that wagon that you started for town credit and I stillll don't like that early game chainsaw defense of Captain by EtR.
RobRoy just makes me uneasy, and I can't really pinpoint it. His interactions with Captain in early game felt okay, but his dismissal of EtR's point about Kill Joy/LoT interactions felt /weird/. Wasn't strong enough feeling to shoot a fairly competent player on gut, so that just left
Kill Joy and Anak.
And I shot the null-ish read that would help PoE and tell me that one of my town reads was wrong.
I wouldn't know from lack of experience, but this is a pretty interesting game comparatively to how it could be going - so much seems to have happened from just the first day.
Really quick - so there's a "night vig", and then 2 other kills; so the scum still only have 1 normal kill but one of them has a PR that let's them kill in addition? Or did they have three normal kills but one of them was the Role-block on RobRoy?
I'll claim responsibility for Anaklusmos' body last night.
I am not a/the full/unlimited vig, though. Don't wish to claim anything beyond that.
To me this looks like you're not 100% confident unless I'm just dumb; "I'll claim responsibility" seems like you're throwing yourself in the ring versus a more solid statement like "I am the one who". Unless it's probably better to make a statement that can be read as a false positive?
(And no, this isn't me trying to hide the fact that I'm the vig. I'm just genuinely curious/confused why people want to out power roles when we have two dead scum and a dead doc).
Well this read legit but it just isn't sitting all nicely with me.
Possibilities are Teh JeY for promising content repeatedly but never delivering
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Teh JeY just feels like carefree town, but needs to post content soon. A re-read of her this game made me a bit uncomfortable there's just not much there other than fluff and fun. Not to say having fun is bad but...
Computer Science Major coupled with the fact that I took a break from my role-playing forums when I started this, having since returned and become fully active (I'm a global moderator). Time hasn't been on my side, even now I'm putting off two labs that are due in two hours that I haven't started. It's been a nightmare past couple weeks.
Could go back to my earlier argument when I got attacked the first time, "If I have nothing to post, why not post anything at all?" Because I swore to myself I was gonna get it done those weekends >_> clearly I just need to shutup and just get the post done or nothing at all.
Theory discussion doesn't really help move the game forwards at any rate.
@Rhand
What are your thoughts on Ganderin_Dan and InfectiousBaloth, and the interactions near the end of the day/their votes for LoT? Also, thoughts on Kill Joy and a vote being placed on your strongest scum read would be nice.
With LoT flipping scum I need to reread a good part of the game.
I'll get my answer to you tomorrow.
@Vox: When you made your big rainbow post you had Void only barely leaning town; why is he one of your strongest town reads now?
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Oh and Swishh too, Vox.
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Why do you think Swishh is town, Voxx?
Previous reads post made were earlier in game, before LoT wagon/flip.
LoT flipping scum makes Swishh a stronger town read than IB, even, for similar interaction types with confirmed scum.
Void is very likely town because of the push onto him in opposition to LoT - if Kill Joy and RobRoy are both town thennnn maybe? But he's pretty solidly town at the moment.
(2) Tom and g_d: why are you questioning voxx's town read on me? As far as I remember I haven't been an FoS since the very beginning of day 1.
(3)Mod, can we get a vote count some time? Mostly just so I can get a clearer idea of who's left in the game.
1. "reserving your vote" meaning? Do you have somebody you want to be voting for? It's unclear what you are saying here.
2. You're acting way too self-conscious here. Why do you care what Voxxicus thinks about you? The fact that you can pinpoint that you "haven't been a FoS" since the beginning of the game is telling me that you're, you know, paying a lot of attention to what people think of you. Why is this?
(2) Tom and g_d: why are you questioning voxx's town read on me? As far as I remember I haven't been an FoS since the very beginning of day 1.
(3)Mod, can we get a vote count some time? Mostly just so I can get a clearer idea of who's left in the game.
1. "reserving your vote" meaning? Do you have somebody you want to be voting for? It's unclear what you are saying here.
2. You're acting way too self-conscious here. Why do you care what Voxxicus thinks about you? The fact that you can pinpoint that you "haven't been a FoS" since the beginning of the game is telling me that you're, you know, paying a lot of attention to what people think of you. Why is this?
3. Dan beat me to it.
vote swishh awwyeah
Reserving my vote insofar as I'm not jumping on an L-2 bandwagon just yet. Recalling that I wasn't under the heat is hardly "paying a lot of attention to what people think of" me. You're scrounging here.
so you would like to lynch... uh, whoever it is that people are voting for right now?
You didn't answer why you care about what Voxxicus thinks of you. I'll grant that recalling you were under pressure is not bad. I remember somebody getting mad at me for some reason Yesterday too. Maybe that is reaching on my part. But I think my question about Voxxicus's read stands.
Not a vote count, but thanks. Wanna answer my question?
Contrary to popular belief, I'm not the mod.
That was directed to dan. But you seem to remember something I don't - that was I an FoS near the end of day 1. I remember EtR calling my unvote scummy but other than that, nada.
Really? I'm town and I still care what people think of me.
It just seems odd that they would question voxx about it when he's far from the only person to town read me.
In answer to your question, my questioning Voxx had nothing to do with my own thoughts of your alignment, I just wanted to know Voxx's reasoning for his read on you changing.
You are coming across rather worried for something so little.
I'll claim responsibility for Anaklusmos' body last night.
I am not a/the full/unlimited vig, though. Don't wish to claim anything beyond that.
RR
Are you forgetting the god awful post killjoy provided during the heat of the LoT wagon that tried to distract from the LoT wagon to put momentum towards me with an awful reason and vote?
Nope. Is that your main reason for voting him? Why didn't you say that when you voted?
I flip flopped on killing Anak or Kill Joy but ultimately decided I'd rather lynch the person who had actually done scummy things and kill the Not Town read who would make PoE'ing the remaining scum easier.
How the hell does killing the person you think is less scummy help us at all?
Your rationale post disturbs me. It doesn't match up that well with what you said in 581. Specifically, your conclusions:
I would be okay with a Kill Joy lynch, though that's probably something I'd rather explore tomorrow, than try to run up late in the day with deadline approaching.
EtR
LoT
KillJoy
Cyouni
Anaklusmos
AlphaInsidious
Swishh
There's 3-4 scum in that grouping. You accused me of not proposing an alternative, when I don't want to propose an alternative. Someone I don't have a town read on was getting lynched, and that's good enough for me.
So pull your head out of your ass, and lynch either EtR, LoT, or KillJoy. I'm not the droid you are looking for. Or something.
My preference is EtR. KillJoy is probably second at this point, but LoT is more likely to go through. So just depends what kind of activity the game has for the next few days.
You've already answere a couple questions about your changing reads, but here are a couple more. When did Teh JeY move down into your possible scum area? And why is there no mention of Cyouni - on your list of possible scum from Day 1, remember - in your Day 2 post where you (re)construct your thinking on who to shoot?
Really quick - so there's a "night vig", and then 2 other kills; so the scum still only have 1 normal kill but one of them has a PR that let's them kill in addition? Or did they have three normal kills but one of them was the Role-block on RobRoy?
The mafia kill taking the night action of the player who does it is more normal, but it isn't unheard of for a mafioso to be able to both kill and act.
I'll claim responsibility for Anaklusmos' body last night.
I am not a/the full/unlimited vig, though. Don't wish to claim anything beyond that.
RR
Are you forgetting the god awful post killjoy provided during the heat of the LoT wagon that tried to distract from the LoT wagon to put momentum towards me with an awful reason and vote?
Nope. Is that your main reason for voting him? Why didn't you say that when you voted?
There were only two people I was willing to shoot.
And I prefer to vig people that help me figure the gamestate out, and lynch people that will generate more interactions.
Teh_JeY became 'possible' scum when Anak flipped town. Because that forced me to reevaluate my town reads, because obviously at least one scum had to be hiding in there.
Cyouni became a light town read after LoT's flip and my re-read. He was on the same tier as AI, where I could only see him being scum if it was with EtR, and they pushed LoT over EtR to gain town credit, and lynch a goon vs. power role.
My reads will change near constantly as more interactions and flips happen - as people I think are scum flip town, it means I have to re-evaluate my weaker town reads.
So the current game state to me is something like this in my notes:
Voxxicus
Seppel Cyouni
Wessel
Anaklusmos
Rick Santorum
Rhand
Swishh
Tom
Void
All of the middle names are actually pretty light town reads, but unless there's magically only a 3-man scum team, with two of them being vanilla, I'm wrong about at least one of them.
And if KillJoy is scum, I think it's probably you.
There were only two people I was willing to shoot.
And I prefer to vig people that help me figure the gamestate out, and lynch people that will generate more interactions.
Teh_JeY became 'possible' scum when Anak flipped town. Because that forced me to reevaluate my town reads, because obviously at least one scum had to be hiding in there.
Cyouni became a light town read after LoT's flip and my re-read. He was on the same tier as AI, where I could only see him being scum if it was with EtR, and they pushed LoT over EtR to gain town credit, and lynch a goon vs. power role.
My reads will change near constantly as more interactions and flips happen - as people I think are scum flip town, it means I have to re-evaluate my weaker town reads.
See, here's the problem I have. In your 696, you were answering the question of "Why did you shoot Anak?" And you detoured and talked about your current reads. But then, nearer the bottom of the page, you got back on the initial topic, and were obviously talking about why you didn't shoot specific people. For instance:
IB had Captain jumping down his precursor's throat. Not vigging based on the plausibility of bussing going down - that's more a 'when other options are exhausted' thing to explore.
I considered Ganderin_Dan, but his reads matched up so well with mine, and there was that small meta-ish point in Cythare's favor - the 3-man scum team thing.
From this point on, your listed thoughts are past tense. You are trying to tell us why you had considered people to vig. And Teh JeY is already on the list. The list of people you were considering to vig - before Cyouni publicly flipped.
Either you're scum, and that list was you covering instead of an honest recollection... or you're being incredibly sloppy in your retelling of your thought processes. I'm betting on the first option. vote: Voxxicus.
Clearly I'm scum that shot all three of Anak, Wessel, and Cyouni.
Or, y'know. I was stream of consciousness posting about current reads and thought process regarding the kill I had last night.
Teh_JeY only really came into focus for me after Anak flipped town.
Cyouni became a non-target after LoT flipped scum.
There's a distinction there, and I'm not sure if you're either semi-OMGUS'ing me for pointing out the link between you/KillJoy, or if you're just being dumb.
Casting suspicions onto Voxx seems a little suspect to me, and I'm willing to reserve judgement on that.
I still have a strong scum read on k-j, but I'd like him to actually check in and respond to anyone before he does anything.
Beyond that, I'm terrible at reading noobs, so Swishh is either really bad town or really bad scum. I'm leaning towards him being scum, but that doesn't really mean much since, again, his play is soo poor, it's hard to imagine him actually being scum.
Something about Tom reads as off to me, but to be fair, I read him as scum all the time, so maybe I just don't like his playstyle.
I'm not sure if you're implying Anak flipping town means you have less of a town read on me, or if the Anak-inspired re-read made my posts look magically less towny? Either way, makes me raise an eyebrow.
I'd think being overly self-conscious of other's opinions on you is a bit of a scum trait. If I was worried about looking scummy, I'd end up questioning every little thing I wrote rather than going with what I felt looked right to say in the first place. By questioning what I write, it'd look seemingly more hesitant in my opinion. Then again, that is just my opinion.
Topic seems to have slowed down a bit, I'mma get back to doing these two labs, which as of 2 hours ago are late ;_;
Really? I'm town and I still care what people think of me.
It just seems odd that they would question voxx about it when he's far from the only person to town read me.
In answer to your question, my questioning Voxx had nothing to do with my own thoughts of your alignment, I just wanted to know Voxx's reasoning for his read on you changing.
You are coming across rather worried for something so little.
I'm not worried - just trying to breed conversation.
It's interesting to see who jumped on voxx's killjoy bandwagon, which I'm beginning to think is a mistake.
#179 - Kill Joy gives LoT town points.
#229 - Commentary on Void being likely town (or possibly neutral. Woo, fearmongering)
#519 - Votes Void because...
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The way this is worded, you seem to be trying to paint LoT's decision that Seppel is town because he killed scum as a bad thing. No, Seppel is not CONFIRMED, sure. But what other conclusion should we come to for someone on D1 who killed a scum?
This all just feels like you're trying to take town points from people who earned them, is what I'm trying to say.
Chainsaw defending flipped scum onto someone he'd conceeded was probably town due to effort/mindset earlier in the game is yeah.
Vote: KillJoy
This is a sound observation. Hard to say when we'll hear from killjoy on the subject though...he's not exactly been posting up a storm lately (not that I have much room to talk).
The sugar on top is that his defense was incredibly weak; attacking the "feel" of Void's post, and even feeling the need to decode his reasoning with a "is what I'm trying to say."
On a related note, does the person who blocked me last night want to claim? I'm willing to listen to you too, although there is a distinct possibility I will want to lynch you afterwards.
Why make this public? I know you explained that you didn't expect anybody to step forward, but I don't see the logic for offering this information so immediately. Seems like a useful thing to keep close to your chest as a trap possibility, and also keeps you from giving away information about your night.
I'll claim responsibility for Anaklusmos' body last night.
I am not a/the full/unlimited vig, though. Don't wish to claim anything beyond that.
I'd like to hear from AlphaInsidous on Vox's claim.
It would seem to place Vox in a position of likely town or SK. I don't see mafia claiming their kill regardless of the situation; compounded by the fact that Vox went from denying his hand in the kill to making it public knowledge in 6 posts flat, simply because a few voices asked the party to claim.
Doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective to me.
Please explain your reasoning here. You seeing Anak as scummy yesterday is not doing it for me.
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Yikes... Unvote: killjoy.
Didn't realize that would put him at L-1; reading the vote count is svg tech.
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Reasons for killing Anaklusmos?
I'd like to hear from AlphaInsidous on Vox's claim.
RR
Are you forgetting the god awful post killjoy provided during the heat of the LoT wagon that tried to distract from the LoT wagon to put momentum towards me with an awful reason and vote?
I flip flopped on killing Anak or Kill Joy but ultimately decided I'd rather lynch the person who had actually done scummy things and kill the Not Town read who would make PoE'ing the remaining scum easier.
Anak flipping town means I need to revisit some of my town reads, though, as there has to be scum hiding in there.
Possibilities are Teh JeY for promising content repeatedly but never delivering (and Cyouni dying, who was the only real vocal opposition to her), Ganderin_Dan (for the EtR push over LoT near end of that wagon) and maybe IB - it's plausible that Lennon really was just blatantly obvious scum and Captain and company tried to bus him for town credit.
Kill Joy is my only remaining actual scum read and after that I'm not sure where I want to go.
Seppel, Swishh and Void are my three strongest town reads.
Rhand is probably town due to interactions, and the blatant insistence that LoT was town even after the lynch just doesn't mesh with scum mindsets, etc.
Tom has the doublevoter thing and I've kind of glossed over his play otherwise. I /guess/ he could be a scum doublevoter with two goons flipping? Not where I'd look first, though.
Rick becomes possible scum again with Anak being town, I suppose, but my gut still says he's town for how he reacted regarding my request on day one. Possible WiFOM, etc, but wasn't willing to shoot him over it. Even if it was tempting just so I didn't have to play with him. But I Play To Win and such.
Alpha makes me a little uneasy, but he was part of the early push on LoT opposing EtR. I only see him as possible scum if EtR is as well, and they were trying to get town credit by lynching a goon over a blocker or something. Wasn't willing to shoot.
IB had Captain jumping down his precursor's throat. Not vigging based on the plausibility of bussing going down - that's more a 'when other options are exhausted' thing to explore.
I considered Ganderin_Dan, but his reads matched up so well with mine, and there was that small meta-ish point in Cythare's favor - the 3-man scum team thing.
That left uh. Kill Joy, Anak, EtR, RobRoy and Teh JeY.
Teh JeY just feels like carefree town, but needs to post content soon. A re-read of her this game made me a bit uncomfortable there's just not much there other than fluff and fun. Not to say having fun is bad but...
I felt better about EtR after LoT's flip and the subsequent re-read. I'm still not writing him off as town, as I can easily see LoT hopping on that wagon that you started for town credit and I stillll don't like that early game chainsaw defense of Captain by EtR.
RobRoy just makes me uneasy, and I can't really pinpoint it. His interactions with Captain in early game felt okay, but his dismissal of EtR's point about Kill Joy/LoT interactions felt /weird/. Wasn't strong enough feeling to shoot a fairly competent player on gut, so that just left
Kill Joy and Anak.
And I shot the null-ish read that would help PoE and tell me that one of my town reads was wrong.
And am lynching Kill Joy.
Really quick - so there's a "night vig", and then 2 other kills; so the scum still only have 1 normal kill but one of them has a PR that let's them kill in addition? Or did they have three normal kills but one of them was the Role-block on RobRoy?
Anywho...
To me this looks like you're not 100% confident unless I'm just dumb; "I'll claim responsibility" seems like you're throwing yourself in the ring versus a more solid statement like "I am the one who". Unless it's probably better to make a statement that can be read as a false positive?
Unless...
Well this read legit but it just isn't sitting all nicely with me.
I was about to ask you why, but then I re-read the Vox wagon. Interesting.
Vote: Kill Joy
I went back to this one as well and found that I am in favor.
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Could go back to my earlier argument when I got attacked the first time, "If I have nothing to post, why not post anything at all?" Because I swore to myself I was gonna get it done those weekends >_> clearly I just need to shutup and just get the post done or nothing at all.
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Vote: EtR
You seem to be 1 page and 1 game day behind.
Voxxicus confirmed not SK.
I agree with lynching killjoy today.
Vote: Killjoy
Vote: Killjoy
@Vox: When you made your big rainbow post you had Void only barely leaning town; why is he one of your strongest town reads now?
With LoT flipping scum I need to reread a good part of the game.
I'll get my answer to you tomorrow.
I'm rereading the thread. Lots of new info to take in. I'll report back later.
Sorry for triple post
Previous reads post made were earlier in game, before LoT wagon/flip.
LoT flipping scum makes Swishh a stronger town read than IB, even, for similar interaction types with confirmed scum.
Void is very likely town because of the push onto him in opposition to LoT - if Kill Joy and RobRoy are both town thennnn maybe? But he's pretty solidly town at the moment.
...because he's trying to take out the scum and chose someone who was not likely scum at all?
This wagon came together rather quickly. Mostly townvotes on it, though.
Not sure I want to hear a claim yet?
I think Anak was scummy.
Tom and g_d: why are you questioning voxx's town read on me? As far as I remember I haven't been an FoS since the very beginning of day 1.
Mod, can we get a vote count some time? Mostly just so I can get a clearer idea of who's left in the game.
Why's that Rick?
If by "the very beginning of day 1" you mean "the very end of day 1" then yes.
2. You're acting way too self-conscious here. Why do you care what Voxxicus thinks about you? The fact that you can pinpoint that you "haven't been a FoS" since the beginning of the game is telling me that you're, you know, paying a lot of attention to what people think of you. Why is this?
3. Dan beat me to it.
vote swishh awwyeah
Reserving my vote insofar as I'm not jumping on an L-2 bandwagon just yet. Recalling that I wasn't under the heat is hardly "paying a lot of attention to what people think of" me. You're scrounging here.
You didn't answer why you care about what Voxxicus thinks of you. I'll grant that recalling you were under pressure is not bad. I remember somebody getting mad at me for some reason Yesterday too. Maybe that is reaching on my part. But I think my question about Voxxicus's read stands.
Contrary to popular belief, I'm not the mod.
That was directed to dan. But you seem to remember something I don't - that was I an FoS near the end of day 1. I remember EtR calling my unvote scummy but other than that, nada.
Really? I'm town and I still care what people think of me.
In answer to your question, my questioning Voxx had nothing to do with my own thoughts of your alignment, I just wanted to know Voxx's reasoning for his read on you changing.
You are coming across rather worried for something so little.
Nope. Is that your main reason for voting him? Why didn't you say that when you voted?
How the hell does killing the person you think is less scummy help us at all?
Your rationale post disturbs me. It doesn't match up that well with what you said in 581. Specifically, your conclusions:
You've already answere a couple questions about your changing reads, but here are a couple more. When did Teh JeY move down into your possible scum area? And why is there no mention of Cyouni - on your list of possible scum from Day 1, remember - in your Day 2 post where you (re)construct your thinking on who to shoot?
The mafia kill taking the night action of the player who does it is more normal, but it isn't unheard of for a mafioso to be able to both kill and act.
Yes.
Reactions.
There were only two people I was willing to shoot.
And I prefer to vig people that help me figure the gamestate out, and lynch people that will generate more interactions.
Teh_JeY became 'possible' scum when Anak flipped town. Because that forced me to reevaluate my town reads, because obviously at least one scum had to be hiding in there.
Cyouni became a light town read after LoT's flip and my re-read. He was on the same tier as AI, where I could only see him being scum if it was with EtR, and they pushed LoT over EtR to gain town credit, and lynch a goon vs. power role.
My reads will change near constantly as more interactions and flips happen - as people I think are scum flip town, it means I have to re-evaluate my weaker town reads.
So the current game state to me is something like this in my notes:
Voxxicus
Seppel
Cyouni
Wessel
Anaklusmos
Rick Santorum
Rhand
Swishh
Tom
Void
InfectiousBaloth
Ganderin_Dan
Robroy
Teh_JeY
AlphaInsidious
EtR
Kill Joy
Lord of Tresserhorn
Captain Tyzmo
All of the middle names are actually pretty light town reads, but unless there's magically only a 3-man scum team, with two of them being vanilla, I'm wrong about at least one of them.
And if KillJoy is scum, I think it's probably you.
But that should be pretty intuitive.
See, here's the problem I have. In your 696, you were answering the question of "Why did you shoot Anak?" And you detoured and talked about your current reads. But then, nearer the bottom of the page, you got back on the initial topic, and were obviously talking about why you didn't shoot specific people. For instance:
From this point on, your listed thoughts are past tense. You are trying to tell us why you had considered people to vig. And Teh JeY is already on the list. The list of people you were considering to vig - before Cyouni publicly flipped.
Either you're scum, and that list was you covering instead of an honest recollection... or you're being incredibly sloppy in your retelling of your thought processes. I'm betting on the first option. vote: Voxxicus.
Clearly I'm scum that shot all three of Anak, Wessel, and Cyouni.
Or, y'know. I was stream of consciousness posting about current reads and thought process regarding the kill I had last night.
Teh_JeY only really came into focus for me after Anak flipped town.
Cyouni became a non-target after LoT flipped scum.
There's a distinction there, and I'm not sure if you're either semi-OMGUS'ing me for pointing out the link between you/KillJoy, or if you're just being dumb.
I still have a strong scum read on k-j, but I'd like him to actually check in and respond to anyone before he does anything.
Beyond that, I'm terrible at reading noobs, so Swishh is either really bad town or really bad scum. I'm leaning towards him being scum, but that doesn't really mean much since, again, his play is soo poor, it's hard to imagine him actually being scum.
Something about Tom reads as off to me, but to be fair, I read him as scum all the time, so maybe I just don't like his playstyle.
That's all I've got for now. Off to do homework!
Killjoy (6) Voxxicus, Void, EtR, Teh JeY, Tom, Tom
EtR (1) ganderin_dan
Swishh (1) RickSantorum
Voxxicus (1) Robroy
Not Voting: Seppel, Rhand, infectousbaloth, AlphaInsidious, Swishh, Killjoy
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I'd think being overly self-conscious of other's opinions on you is a bit of a scum trait. If I was worried about looking scummy, I'd end up questioning every little thing I wrote rather than going with what I felt looked right to say in the first place. By questioning what I write, it'd look seemingly more hesitant in my opinion. Then again, that is just my opinion.
Topic seems to have slowed down a bit, I'mma get back to doing these two labs, which as of 2 hours ago are late ;_;
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I'm not worried - just trying to breed conversation.
It's interesting to see who jumped on voxx's killjoy bandwagon, which I'm beginning to think is a mistake.
Vote: Void
This is a sound observation. Hard to say when we'll hear from killjoy on the subject though...he's not exactly been posting up a storm lately (not that I have much room to talk).
The sugar on top is that his defense was incredibly weak; attacking the "feel" of Void's post, and even feeling the need to decode his reasoning with a "is what I'm trying to say."
Vote: Killjoy
Why make this public? I know you explained that you didn't expect anybody to step forward, but I don't see the logic for offering this information so immediately. Seems like a useful thing to keep close to your chest as a trap possibility, and also keeps you from giving away information about your night.
It would seem to place Vox in a position of likely town or SK. I don't see mafia claiming their kill regardless of the situation; compounded by the fact that Vox went from denying his hand in the kill to making it public knowledge in 6 posts flat, simply because a few voices asked the party to claim.
Doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective to me.
Is this a case of you pretending to see something again? Or would you care to expound on what you find interesting?
Please explain your reasoning here. You seeing Anak as scummy yesterday is not doing it for me.
Unvote: killjoy.
Didn't realize that would put him at L-1; reading the vote count is svg tech.