It does work, because you misinterpreted my original statement (or, perhaps, I worded it poorly). I can't point out things that you were wrong about because, obviously, I don't even know that yet. However, I've watched many of your games and I know that your approach to this game often gets you lynched early and is therefore a poor approach.
Whatever you think of my behavior this game, you're wrong, and being oversensitive. As I said, I'll do as I please.
I am Winston Churchill, vanilla town.
I led Britain against Hitler during WWII, was friends with Franklyn Roosevelt, and now must lead Britain once again to victory.
Well, that does little to change anything. Vanilla claim, yadda yadda.
The misspelling doesn't really bother me as much as the brevity of this claim post does, after not posting for 6 days and merely popping in to lay down the bare minimum.
And he's hasn't responded to anything after that claim. I get the feeling LoT feels the less he says at this point, the better.
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@TeH JeY: I'm sorry for misspelling your name, as I know you've put non-0 effort into correcting people. I'm going to call you TJ to avoid further misspellings, if that's ok. You'll have to accommodate for that considering I just jammed ~600 posts in a relatively short amount of time.
@IB: It's not weak reasoning. You're town. Start contributing. An example: what do you think of this Tom/Meg spat? @Rhand: Game in Progress.
Increased likelyhood of TJ & Tom being town. Not sure what to take from Meg's behavior. Tom & Meg should likely just stop interacting.
Seriously please stop spelling my name with an 'a'. I swear to god I'm to flip if one more person is too lazy to do something as simple as reading. Isn't that what this game is about? So why is my name so goddamn difficult?
I know how you feel - someone can't stop spelling mine Cyoni despite the continuous reminders, so I ended up changing my title to mock that.
I am Winston Churchill, vanilla town.
I led Britain against Hitler during WWII, was friends with Franklyn Roosevelt, and now must lead Britain once again to victory.
Well, that does little to change anything. Vanilla claim, yadda yadda.
The misspelling doesn't really bother me as much as the brevity of this claim post does, after not posting for 6 days and merely popping in to lay down the bare minimum.
And he's hasn't responded to anything after that claim. I get the feeling LoT feels the less he says at this point, the better.
I've been trying to make sense of LoT's claim post ever since he posted. Like, I've been trying to come up with some decent explanation for how he could be coming from a town mindset in his recent posts, and I've been coming up blank.
This reads to me like KJ is trying to distract everyone from LoT. I think depending on how LoT flips this may speak well of Void.
You are not making me feel better about you.
Why? Is that not reasonable?
It further advocates killing LoT by pointing out possible (not guaranteed) information benefits. We always get informational benefits from dead players. That isn't a reason to kill LoT, but posts like this can be used to subtly push in that direction.
Not worth exploring the possibility until we see more bodies and/or find out if Seppel can do that again. Which he shouldn't claim. If he hasn't already. I haven't gone back to look.
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I am Winston Churchill, vanilla town.
I led Britain against Hitler during WWII, was friends with Franklyn Roosevelt, and now must lead Britain once again to victory.
Well, that does little to change anything. Vanilla claim, yadda yadda.
The misspelling doesn't really bother me as much as the brevity of this claim post does, after not posting for 6 days and merely popping in to lay down the bare minimum.
And he's hasn't responded to anything after that claim. I get the feeling LoT feels the less he says at this point, the better.
.....and that's a lynch! We are now in twilight: Lynch scene will be posted later tonight, I am doing this from my phone right now...
Lord of Tresserhorn(10): Void,AlphaInsidious, EtR, Cyouni, Swishh, Tom, Seppel, infectiousbaloth, Voxxicus, ganderin_dan You may continue to post until the lynch scene is up.
EWP: Other than presidental blah blah republican mafia
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This reads to me like KJ is trying to distract everyone from LoT. I think depending on how LoT flips this may speak well of Void.
You are not making me feel better about you.
Why? Is that not reasonable?
It further advocates killing LoT by pointing out possible (not guaranteed) information benefits. We always get informational benefits from dead players. That isn't a reason to kill LoT, but posts like this can be used to subtly push in that direction.
If I think someone is scum and want them dead, pointing out additional reasons why it's a good idea is bad? This seems very backwards to me.
EWP: Other than presidental blah blah republican mafia
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I think that Megs is being excessively defensive. This looks like Tom's town game. I need to discern if it's normal for Megs to be so belligerent.
@Rickgiddo: do you have any completed games?
I'm not sure how I'm being excessively defensive. Spell that one out for me.
If you want to read my games, check my blog, yo. Only got one entry, and it links to my mafia stats. We've actually been in a game together, if you forgot.
I posted that last one from my phone. I was copy/pasting, which is why the names were in different colors.
After the death of the first traitor, all of you seem to be relaxing. Buisness can return to usual, but ganderin_dan looks over at the Lord of Tresserhorn, and sees nothing but anger. Suspicious, he approaches him.
Dan: Why do you look so angry guy? We just sucessfully ousted one of the more evil historical figures around.
Tresserhorn: I disagree. He was from my time period, and Communism was the only evil we should be concerned about.
Dan: Old man, you are such a fool. While Communism was overall, unsucessful, there was nothing evil about it. Karl Marx's original vision was merely tainted by some of the more evil men of your time. As the leader of Great Britain, one would hope you of all people could see tha-
And all of a sudden, it became clear: TRESSERHORN was in fact another co-conspirator!
Tresserhorn realizes he has been caught, tries to get away, but is then tackled to the ground by Seppel and Alphainsidious. The rest of you slowly surround him. Tresserhorn struggles, but is no match for the combined forces of history's greatest heroes. After a short time of forced pressure on his throat. Winston Churchill, Mafia Goon is no more.
Winston Churchill (Mafia Goon) Lord of Tresserhorn, You are Winston Churchill(30 November 1874 – 24 January 1965)
As the successor of Neville Chamberlain, the safety of the world stood on your shoulders alone. During WWII, you lead Great Britain against Hitler in the Battle of Britain, getting the first major victory against the axis powers. You and Franklyn Roosevelt were very good friends during this time, and often talked about getting support from a very isolationist United States. However, you played second fiddle to America, and fell as America became one of two superpowers. The time for Great Britain to come back is NOW!
Abilities: During the day, you may vote any player. During the night, you can decide to kill a player at night.
Night will begin now. Players will have 72 hours to get any/all actions in to me. Day will start after all actions resolve.
As the day approaches, you all come to the meeting room. After a quick breakfast, followed by some light hearted conversation, you realize there are actually three of you missing. After a quick headcount, the people missing areCyouni, Wessel, and Anaklusmos. You all head towards Anaklosmos's room, and see that there is a knife sticking into his chest. After a quick look at face you all recognizer himas the beloved young girl Anne Frank (Town Vanilla)
Anaklusmos, You are Anne Frank (12 June 1929 – early March 1945).
You are one of the most memorable victims of the holocaust. In middle and some high schools, the diary you kept while in hiding is read and studied by many to uncover the state of Jews in Nazi Germany. While not much is known about you outside those diaries, we know that you lived the life of a typical young teenagers with your own little “secrets”, and here is your chance to live again.
Abilities: During the day, you may vote for any player.
After that, you head towards Wessel's room. Expecting another knife slash, it would appear that cause of his death was a quick bullet to the head. One of you chuckles at the irony of how his death is eerily similar to how he died the first time, but the rest of you seem solemn at the death of Alexander Hamilton Town Historian.
Wessel, You are Alexander Hamilton (January 11, 1755 or 1757– July 12, 1804)
As one of the founders of the constitution, and the original designer of the Bank of the United States, you were one of the most intelligent men alive. In the creation of the executive branch, Hamilton often argued with Thomas Jefferson about how the powers should be divided. You believe that the President should have more power while Jefferson believed less. How you ended up dying was because you pushed your political pull a little too far, and wound up dead in a duel to Aaron Burr because of it.
Abilities: During the day, you may vote for any player. During the night, you may target another player. You will get their role name, their abilities and research most of their flavor.
As for Cyouni, you don't even need to reach his room before you see him lying facedown on the ground. What an ungodly sight of one of the holiest men alive as Pope John Paul II Town Doctor lies there. Even in death, he still looks like God is close to him.
Cyouni, You are Pope John Paul II (18 May 1920 – 2 April 2005) You have one of the longest reins as the pope of the Catholic church since Pope Pius IX. You are also the first non-Italian pope to date, and take great pride in that. You are known to be one of the great enemies of communism, and even played a role in removing it from Poland, your home country, as well as strengthening the ties between Catholicism and several other sister religions such as Judaism and Islamism. You were a man of God, and died “venerably”.
Abilities: During the day, you may vote for any player. During the night, you may target a player to protect them from killing abilities. You cannot target yourself.
After the deaths today, it hardens the resolve you have to find these evil people. And for some, the dead of these men angers you to the very core. With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.Your deadline will be on Monday, March 20th at noon. Good luck to all!
#179 - Kill Joy gives LoT town points.
#229 - Commentary on Void being likely town (or possibly neutral. Woo, fearmongering)
#519 - Votes Void because...
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The way this is worded, you seem to be trying to paint LoT's decision that Seppel is town because he killed scum as a bad thing. No, Seppel is not CONFIRMED, sure. But what other conclusion should we come to for someone on D1 who killed a scum?
This all just feels like you're trying to take town points from people who earned them, is what I'm trying to say.
Chainsaw defending flipped scum onto someone he'd conceeded was probably town due to effort/mindset earlier in the game is yeah.
Rolecop. Still hurts, though. And three bodies means either there is another townie vig out there in addition to Seppel, the DEFINITELY TOWNIE VIG, or the scum got a bonus kill. I'm kind of guessing the latter... both dead scum were vanilla, so it wouldn't surprise me if the others were a Tough Guy and a Roleblocker. But if anyone wants to claim one of the dead bodies, I'm willing to listen.
On a related note, does the person who blocked me last night want to claim? I'm willing to listen to you too, although there is a distinct possibility I will want to lynch you afterwards.
That whole post is basically asking potentially town PR's to claim.
Dislike.
If a townie vig has shot a townie, they need to claim the body. I will listen to someone's reasons now, and judge them based on their rationale and their posts. If you get into trouble and then say, "Yeah, I'm a vig, I shot Wessel" I will not believe you and will want to lynch you.
The second bit was basically me letting you know that I was blocked. I have no belief that anyone will actually claim the block.
I guess the part where I asked Void what reasons he had for voting killjoy could also be considered asking a PR to claim, but only you think I believe him to be a cop. That's reaching.
You think a town vig should reveal on day two, when the doc was killed night one?
Just from a mafia theory standpoint that seems suboptimal.
(And no, this isn't me trying to hide the fact that I'm the vig. I'm just genuinely curious/confused why people want to out power roles when we have two dead scum and a dead doc).
Theory discussion doesn't really help move the game forwards at any rate.
@Rhand
What are your thoughts on Ganderin_Dan and InfectiousBaloth, and the interactions near the end of the day/their votes for LoT? Also, thoughts on Kill Joy and a vote being placed on your strongest scum read would be nice.
The request for a name claim came from Seppel. Seeing as Seppel entered the game by vigging scum, and scum that nobody was looking into at the moment at that, I would say that Seppel is as close to confirmed town as we're going to get at the moment. So at this point I take a request from Seppel as a request from town.
Because Seppel killed scum you believe him to be town. While the razor does point in that direction Seppel is far from confirmed town.
Would you please list your top suspects for me?
Unvote, vote Void. The way this is worded, you seem to be trying to paint LoT's decision that Seppel is town because he killed scum as a bad thing. No, Seppel is not CONFIRMED, sure. But what other conclusion should we come to for someone on D1 who killed a scum?
This all just feels like you're trying to take town points from people who earned them, is what I'm trying to say.
This reads to me like KJ is trying to distract everyone from LoT. I think depending on how LoT flips this may speak well of Void.
I'm on board with Vote KJ. This shows that KJ was trying to move attention away from LoT.
Whatever you think of my behavior this game, you're wrong, and being oversensitive. As I said, I'll do as I please.
Well, that does little to change anything. Vanilla claim, yadda yadda.
The misspelling doesn't really bother me as much as the brevity of this claim post does, after not posting for 6 days and merely popping in to lay down the bare minimum.
And he's hasn't responded to anything after that claim. I get the feeling LoT feels the less he says at this point, the better.
@IB: It's not weak reasoning. You're town. Start contributing. An example: what do you think of this Tom/Meg spat?
@Rhand: Game in Progress.
Increased likelyhood of TJ & Tom being town. Not sure what to take from Meg's behavior. Tom & Meg should likely just stop interacting.
/barn AI
I know how you feel - someone can't stop spelling mine Cyoni despite the continuous reminders, so I ended up changing my title to mock that.
I think he still can't spell it right.
Naming no names.
If you didn't have a double-vote, I'd have called for your death a billion times by now.
I've been trying to make sense of LoT's claim post ever since he posted. Like, I've been trying to come up with some decent explanation for how he could be coming from a town mindset in his recent posts, and I've been coming up blank.
Your explanation is good.
Let's roll.
Reread overNight.
Unvote: EtR, Vote: Lord of Tresserhorn
I remember that as if it were yesterday. I was rolling hard reading your responses at the time.
Waiting for TCM at this point.
6 + 4 = 10. That is a lynch, unoffically.
Nothing changed since I last explained that.
It further advocates killing LoT by pointing out possible (not guaranteed) information benefits. We always get informational benefits from dead players. That isn't a reason to kill LoT, but posts like this can be used to subtly push in that direction.
Not worth exploring the possibility until we see more bodies and/or find out if Seppel can do that again. Which he shouldn't claim. If he hasn't already. I haven't gone back to look.
Thanks?
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/barn
Pretty sure that was directed at swishh:
IB replaced in for Lennon.
@Wessel: What RR said.
Lord of Tresserhorn (10): Void, AlphaInsidious, EtR, Cyouni, Swishh, Tom, Seppel, infectiousbaloth, Voxxicus, ganderin_dan
You may continue to post until the lynch scene is up.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
It's strange. Looking at the BB code from TCM's post everything looks correct.
@Rickgiddo: do you have any completed games?
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If I think someone is scum and want them dead, pointing out additional reasons why it's a good idea is bad? This seems very backwards to me.
He was pretty belligerent there.
If you want to read my games, check my blog, yo. Only got one entry, and it links to my mafia stats. We've actually been in a game together, if you forgot.
I was scum in that game, if that's relevant.
They aren't red.
YOU CAN'T META MEGIDDO
Actually I remember everyone calling for your death in that game and I couldn't imagine why.
After the death of the first traitor, all of you seem to be relaxing. Buisness can return to usual, but ganderin_dan looks over at the Lord of Tresserhorn, and sees nothing but anger. Suspicious, he approaches him.
Dan: Why do you look so angry guy? We just sucessfully ousted one of the more evil historical figures around.
Tresserhorn: I disagree. He was from my time period, and Communism was the only evil we should be concerned about.
Dan: Old man, you are such a fool. While Communism was overall, unsucessful, there was nothing evil about it. Karl Marx's original vision was merely tainted by some of the more evil men of your time. As the leader of Great Britain, one would hope you of all people could see tha-
And all of a sudden, it became clear: TRESSERHORN was in fact another co-conspirator!
Tresserhorn realizes he has been caught, tries to get away, but is then tackled to the ground by Seppel and Alphainsidious. The rest of you slowly surround him. Tresserhorn struggles, but is no match for the combined forces of history's greatest heroes. After a short time of forced pressure on his throat. Winston Churchill, Mafia Goon is no more.
Winston Churchill (Mafia Goon)
Lord of Tresserhorn, You are Winston Churchill (30 November 1874 – 24 January 1965)
As the successor of Neville Chamberlain, the safety of the world stood on your shoulders alone. During WWII, you lead Great Britain against Hitler in the Battle of Britain, getting the first major victory against the axis powers. You and Franklyn Roosevelt were very good friends during this time, and often talked about getting support from a very isolationist United States. However, you played second fiddle to America, and fell as America became one of two superpowers. The time for Great Britain to come back is NOW!
Abilities: During the day, you may vote any player.
During the night, you can decide to kill a player at night.
Night will begin now. Players will have 72 hours to get any/all actions in to me. Day will start after all actions resolve.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
You are one of the most memorable victims of the holocaust. In middle and some high schools, the diary you kept while in hiding is read and studied by many to uncover the state of Jews in Nazi Germany. While not much is known about you outside those diaries, we know that you lived the life of a typical young teenagers with your own little “secrets”, and here is your chance to live again.
Abilities: During the day, you may vote for any player.
After that, you head towards Wessel's room. Expecting another knife slash, it would appear that cause of his death was a quick bullet to the head. One of you chuckles at the irony of how his death is eerily similar to how he died the first time, but the rest of you seem solemn at the death of Alexander Hamilton Town Historian.
As one of the founders of the constitution, and the original designer of the Bank of the United States, you were one of the most intelligent men alive. In the creation of the executive branch, Hamilton often argued with Thomas Jefferson about how the powers should be divided. You believe that the President should have more power while Jefferson believed less. How you ended up dying was because you pushed your political pull a little too far, and wound up dead in a duel to Aaron Burr because of it.
Abilities: During the day, you may vote for any player. During the night, you may target another player. You will get their role name, their abilities and research most of their flavor.
As for Cyouni, you don't even need to reach his room before you see him lying facedown on the ground. What an ungodly sight of one of the holiest men alive as Pope John Paul II Town Doctor lies there. Even in death, he still looks like God is close to him.
Cyouni, You are Pope John Paul II (18 May 1920 – 2 April 2005)
You have one of the longest reins as the pope of the Catholic church since Pope Pius IX. You are also the first non-Italian pope to date, and take great pride in that. You are known to be one of the great enemies of communism, and even played a role in removing it from Poland, your home country, as well as strengthening the ties between Catholicism and several other sister religions such as Judaism and Islamism. You were a man of God, and died “venerably”.
Abilities: During the day, you may vote for any player. During the night, you may target a player to protect them from killing abilities. You cannot target yourself.
After the deaths today, it hardens the resolve you have to find these evil people. And for some, the dead of these men angers you to the very core. With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.Your deadline will be on Monday, March 20th at noon. Good luck to all!
The GJ way path to no lynching:
#179 - Kill Joy gives LoT town points.
#229 - Commentary on Void being likely town (or possibly neutral. Woo, fearmongering)
#519 - Votes Void because...
Chainsaw defending flipped scum onto someone he'd conceeded was probably town due to effort/mindset earlier in the game is yeah.
Vote: KillJoy
Reserving comments until everyone posts.
Rolecop. Still hurts, though. And three bodies means either there is another townie vig out there in addition to Seppel, the DEFINITELY TOWNIE VIG, or the scum got a bonus kill. I'm kind of guessing the latter... both dead scum were vanilla, so it wouldn't surprise me if the others were a Tough Guy and a Roleblocker. But if anyone wants to claim one of the dead bodies, I'm willing to listen.
On a related note, does the person who blocked me last night want to claim? I'm willing to listen to you too, although there is a distinct possibility I will want to lynch you afterwards.
Care to provide reasons?
That whole post is basically asking potentially town PR's to claim.
Dislike.
If a townie vig has shot a townie, they need to claim the body. I will listen to someone's reasons now, and judge them based on their rationale and their posts. If you get into trouble and then say, "Yeah, I'm a vig, I shot Wessel" I will not believe you and will want to lynch you.
The second bit was basically me letting you know that I was blocked. I have no belief that anyone will actually claim the block.
I guess the part where I asked Void what reasons he had for voting killjoy could also be considered asking a PR to claim, but only you think I believe him to be a cop. That's reaching.
But I think I disagree about wanting town vigs/blockers to claim at this point.
Obviously if it's a scumblocker then they aren't going to claim, but still.
I was a one-shot dayvig so I'm assuming the other one is an unlimited-shot nightvig.
There's no reason to waste time getting a wagon run up, and it will prove invaluable in analyzing the scums' plan on D1.
Just from a mafia theory standpoint that seems suboptimal.
(And no, this isn't me trying to hide the fact that I'm the vig. I'm just genuinely curious/confused why people want to out power roles when we have two dead scum and a dead doc).
@Rhand
What are your thoughts on Ganderin_Dan and InfectiousBaloth, and the interactions near the end of the day/their votes for LoT? Also, thoughts on Kill Joy and a vote being placed on your strongest scum read would be nice.
I'm on board with Vote KJ. This shows that KJ was trying to move attention away from LoT.
I'll claim responsibility for Anaklusmos' body last night.
I am not a/the full/unlimited vig, though. Don't wish to claim anything beyond that.