I think that if we tell the president who to lynch, then we just might as well choose a president with a presidential ability so he can help us more then just "let's choose player x" like any other mafia game
Would you like to help scum any more today. Lets all just claim so the scum know who they should be worried about.
You don't claim to be important but want to look valuable...
No, you are still digging downwards rogueofoz. You are using as a defence that you never claimed to be important, yet just admitted to wanting to look valuable to town... Since no cash offers are made for players I would suggest that I was right to use the word 'important'.
Down tiger. I think you making a mountain out of a molehill. I know rogue from mafiascum and he has a tendancy of foot in mouth.
One thing we haven't established is whether the mafia have a nailed on killing role in night phase or if its only on condition of being elected president in the day.
I have an ability that kicks in during the night if I'm elected, hence why I ponder this.
My guess is, they should can kill someone on night phase, and only us have that sort of abilities during night if we are elected presidents.
My ability on being president activates later in the game, as for now my ability relays on me voting for the candidate that gets elected as president so can do anything of help, otherwise I'm just a vanilla townie
In addition to what Generic has pointed out, I notice a slip in fixing language here: "they should can kill"
Rogue is on my "want dead" list along with Bill Clinton.
Also, in case people didn't see it: I have a very good ability that activates if I'm the president.
You do know he stated at the start that English is not his first language?
This seems very like finding things just to make them sound good then scum hunting. Fos Ron Paul the Hero of Time
I don't see FOS work for reaction like a vote does. Plus I have never really enjoyed rvs
Of course, an FoS is never as good as a vote. But this is a special game where we can't really vote in the traditional sense. I'm pretty sure if we "count" FoSes and basically treat them like a vote we can just treat this game as a regular game of mafia.
I'm actually a gimmick of Prophylaxis, but I'm using this account for value.
@pinkys_brain: How come we just don't play regular mafia? Scumhunt, use FoSes in replacement for votes, and when someone reaches 7 FoSes we elect whoever is the most townie and make them lynch the guy.
I typically see these useless moments come from scum. No follow up, no reason for the questions, no really discussion about what is going on in the game. Just posting to post. That is my book is typical scum behavior.
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@pinkys_brain: I know that you answered it, but the question was aimed more at Hero. His rationale for the vote seemed weak. "Generic is a good second choice" does not make a vote make.
I'm asking these questions because I'm trying to /figure things out/. The game is still extremely young.
I think that if we tell the president who to lynch, then we just might as well choose a president with a presidential ability so he can help us more then just "let's choose player x" like any other mafia game
Would you like to help scum any more today. Lets all just claim so the scum know who they should be worried about.
You don't claim to be important but want to look valuable...
No, you are still digging downwards rogueofoz. You are using as a defence that you never claimed to be important, yet just admitted to wanting to look valuable to town... Since no cash offers are made for players I would suggest that I was right to use the word 'important'.
Down tiger. I think you making a mountain out of a molehill. I know rogue from mafiascum and he has a tendancy of foot in mouth.
One thing we haven't established is whether the mafia have a nailed on killing role in night phase or if its only on condition of being elected president in the day.
I have an ability that kicks in during the night if I'm elected, hence why I ponder this.
My guess is, they should can kill someone on night phase, and only us have that sort of abilities during night if we are elected presidents.
My ability on being president activates later in the game, as for now my ability relays on me voting for the candidate that gets elected as president so can do anything of help, otherwise I'm just a vanilla townie
In addition to what Generic has pointed out, I notice a slip in fixing language here: "they should can kill"
Rogue is on my "want dead" list along with Bill Clinton.
Also, in case people didn't see it: I have a very good ability that activates if I'm the president.
You do know he stated at the start that English is not his first language?
This seems very like finding things just to make them sound good then scum hunting. Fos Ron Paul the Hero of Time
@pinkys_brain, Ron Paul The Hero Of Time: Why are you voting Generic?
I already answered this in thread. Any reason your asking pointless questions?
I know I've expressed a bias against RPTHOT since he stole my name, but your points against him and Mitt are very good. You seem like a trustworthy character who believes in the Gold Standard.
I do also find Mitt Romney kind of suspicious, I think that his question were generic and somewhat irrelevant, and just trying to be active so we don't think he is scum, he didn't even question me on my recent suspicion of being scum.
And, looks like Ron Paul hero of time, it's just trying to get on the bandwagon on my lynching, since I totally since my first post agreed on English not being my first language.
claiming VT is like telling everyone you are a safe mislynch. Any doubts we have about you are protected against the fact if you are telling the truth we dont lose a PR.
Its not a flawless play, because none of us want to mislynch and reduce our voting powers in the day, but its a damage limitation thing.
Im not sure but i think that was the reason why this question was asked.
Yes I'm fully aware of that, and I'm in favor of lynching me D1 so damage can be somewhat control, but on the other hand, we can still try and hit some scum.
Noone is a chosen lynch target at this stage, regardless of my pressure on you. We havent even determined who will be chosing the lynch yet.
I want to hear from everyone before we press on with any decisions, thats why i expressed concern at the fast voting of me and wanted it to stop while we had everyone having a say.
LOL, sure I won't, I'm just doing terrible in this game, I hope I can play a little better and be of some assistance and not a burden on the town.
Sorry about missing the first day. I'll be able to post at least a little everyday from now on.
I currently lean towards Bill's plan on how to vote/elect/lynch players. I understand the logic Generic is using, but I don't exactly agree with it.
I REALLY don't like the way RPTHOT (thats going to get annoying to type) is trying to scream "Vote me! Vote me!" It feels unnecessary and if he does have an ability, screaming it for all the mafia to hear is most definitely not the correct plan of action.
@RPTHOT Why do you feel it so necessary to do this? ^ Why do you want to lynch Bill exactly?
PRP just feels like bandwagoning to try and get an easy lynch on rogue (who I admit doesn't look very town right now) and his plan about choosing the same person as president every time either wasn't very well thought out or was scummy and we don't need people that don't think or that are scum so my feelings on him are pretty scummy at the moment.
@Mitt What are your feelings on Generic, Bill and rogue?
I think it's a good call to look at the party of people who are voting.
Generic (D): Pinkys_brain (R), Ron Paul the Hero of Time (R)
TMCT (D): Generic (D)
Pinkys_brain (R): Pope Ron Paul (R)
12 players in the game and 6 of each party, with people more likely to vote their own party for better abilities. The fact that there are two R voting Generic right now leads me to believe that PB and RPHoT are the most genuine in their expressions for a good President instead of helping theirselves to their abilities.
With that trend, Generic is the most likely person to be elected, even with his (D) buddy Vermin Supreme not in the game yet.
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RogueofOz is going to be really hard for me to read; I'm used to using language tells to catch scum. That being said, I'll be much more cautious of him and ask for clarification more than I normally would.
RPtHoT is playing at some weird gambit way too early. I don't trust his want to be president while spouting off about abilities this early in the game.
@Ron Paul the Hero of Time: Why am I on your "want dead" list? List specifics on why you think I'm scum. So far all you've said is that I'm talking in "Generics" (Nice pun, btw) and that I'm "Talking out of my ass." What about my responses to Generic didn't you like? Do you think I'm being genuine in my statements?
DAMN. had a whole first bit to that, and it went missing
i had said before that list that i had spotted rogueofoz wasnt english and have never dwelled on his grammatical inconsistencies. But i cannot ignore the clear contradictions in logic and reasoning.
And i am concerned at pinky's response that felt like a defence of rogueofoz, i have seen pinky as pro town up to now and although its early in the game i hate the idea of being wrong about someone
Agree that mitt romney does seem to be circumventing getting too stuck in, but there is SOME content to what he has posted, even if it is keeping vague. Definitely want to hear a response from him in defence of pinkys comments.
Reading the back & forth between u and rogue was in my view was u putting words in his mouth and no matter how or what he said it was wrong. Plus RPHoT barning u and only adding trivial gramical problem has me butting in.
@ mitt why did u include my name in the question at all? What is your opinion of generic, rogue, or anyone here thus far?
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I think rogueofoz is newb town. In my last couple of games (Innistrad and Meg's Favorite Video Games Mafia, an off site game) they both had vanilla claim D1 by newbs and they were both town. rogueofoz handled my question very newbishly and well, too.
I wasn't a huge fan of Clinton's earlier D1 posts, and his later posts seem like setup speculating to me. I'm not a huge fan on how he keeps concentrating on the presidential aspect of the game.
I like Generic's questions.
@MegMod: Can you keep track of FoSes?
I really don't like Ron Paul The Hero Of Time's posts. He hops on the Generic bandwagon and he tries to mudsling Bill.
...and he tries to follow that up with a weak language tell, which isn't even valid.
I think that if we tell the president who to lynch, then we just might as well choose a president with a presidential ability so he can help us more then just "let's choose player x" like any other mafia game
Would you like to help scum any more today. Lets all just claim so the scum know who they should be worried about.
You don't claim to be important but want to look valuable...
No, you are still digging downwards rogueofoz. You are using as a defence that you never claimed to be important, yet just admitted to wanting to look valuable to town... Since no cash offers are made for players I would suggest that I was right to use the word 'important'.
Down tiger. I think you making a mountain out of a molehill. I know rogue from mafiascum and he has a tendancy of foot in mouth.
One thing we haven't established is whether the mafia have a nailed on killing role in night phase or if its only on condition of being elected president in the day.
I have an ability that kicks in during the night if I'm elected, hence why I ponder this.
My guess is, they should can kill someone on night phase, and only us have that sort of abilities during night if we are elected presidents.
My ability on being president activates later in the game, as for now my ability relays on me voting for the candidate that gets elected as president so can do anything of help, otherwise I'm just a vanilla townie
In addition to what Generic has pointed out, I notice a slip in fixing language here: "they should can kill"
Rogue is on my "want dead" list along with Bill Clinton.
Also, in case people didn't see it: I have a very good ability that activates if I'm the president.
You do know he stated at the start that English is not his first language?
This seems very like finding things just to make them sound good then scum hunting. Fos Ron Paul the Hero of Time
@pinkys_brain, Ron Paul The Hero Of Time: Why are you voting Generic?
I already answered this in thread. Any reason your asking pointless questions?
I know I've expressed a bias against RPTHOT since he stole my name, but your points against him and Mitt are very good. You seem like a trustworthy character who believes in the Gold Standard.
Vote Pinky's Brain
You guys realize that Rogue said he has poor English AFTER I said that? Stop that.
I retract the language tell, but the inconsistent mindset is still valid. Do you and Pinky actually think that you've poked a hole in it? No, all you've done is explained something to me, and you're overreacting with FOSes and votes.
Sorry about missing the first day. I'll be able to post at least a little everyday from now on.
I currently lean towards Bill's plan on how to vote/elect/lynch players. I understand the logic Generic is using, but I don't exactly agree with it.
I REALLY don't like the way RPTHOT (thats going to get annoying to type) is trying to scream "Vote me! Vote me!" It feels unnecessary and if he does have an ability, screaming it for all the mafia to hear is most definitely not the correct plan of action.
@RPTHOT Why do you feel it so necessary to do this? ^ Why do you want to lynch Bill exactly?
PRP just feels like bandwagoning to try and get an easy lynch on rogue (who I admit doesn't look very town right now) and his plan about choosing the same person as president every time either wasn't very well thought out or was scummy and we don't need people that don't think or that are scum so my feelings on him are pretty scummy at the moment.
@Mitt What are your feelings on Generic, Bill and rogue?
Bill hasn't said anything remarkable in the entirety of his text.
And I am advertising that I should be elected president because it's probably the best possible play. And that's without me knowing anyone else's roles. My role is just that good.
So unless you'd like me to fullclaim, I advise you to elect me.
I think it's a good call to look at the party of people who are voting.
Generic (D): Pinkys_brain (R), Ron Paul the Hero of Time (R)
TMCT (D): Generic (D)
Pinkys_brain (R): Pope Ron Paul (R)
12 players in the game and 6 of each party, with people more likely to vote their own party for better abilities. The fact that there are two R voting Generic right now leads me to believe that PB and RPHoT are the most genuine in their expressions for a good President instead of helping theirselves to their abilities.
With that trend, Generic is the most likely person to be elected, even with his (D) buddy Vermin Supreme not in the game yet.
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RogueofOz is going to be really hard for me to read; I'm used to using language tells to catch scum. That being said, I'll be much more cautious of him and ask for clarification more than I normally would.
RPtHoT is playing at some weird gambit way too early. I don't trust his want to be president while spouting off about abilities this early in the game.
@Ron Paul the Hero of Time: Why am I on your "want dead" list? List specifics on why you think I'm scum. So far all you've said is that I'm talking in "Generics" (Nice pun, btw) and that I'm "Talking out of my ass." What about my responses to Generic didn't you like? Do you think I'm being genuine in my statements?
You're spending more time talking about mafia theory and game mechanics than actually talking about anyone. This is your first notable post in the entire game, and all you've said is that you cant read Rogue and you want to know why I want you dead. You're so self-interested.
I think rogueofoz is newb town. In my last couple of games (Innistrad and Meg's Favorite Video Games Mafia, an off site game) they both had vanilla claim D1 by newbs and they were both town. rogueofoz handled my question very newbishly and well, too.
I wasn't a huge fan of Clinton's earlier D1 posts, and his later posts seem like setup speculating to me. I'm not a huge fan on how he keeps concentrating on the presidential aspect of the game.
I like Generic's questions.
@MegMod: Can you keep track of FoSes?
I really don't like Ron Paul The Hero Of Time's posts. He hops on the Generic bandwagon and he tries to mudsling Bill.
...and he tries to follow that up with a weak language tell, which isn't even valid.
FoS Ron Paul The Hero Of Time
And that makes Generic's points invalid how?
I thought I saw something, and Pinky pointed out that I was wrong. What is foot on in your head?
I didn't put words in his mouth when he clearly in one post makes a point that he wanted to make a case for being president later in the game, and then followed that up in debate with me claiming he wanted to make himself a target to spare others. You show where that is wrong.
And from what felt like defending has turned into clearly defending. And people who defend other players usually have an agenda. If you are as experienced st mafia as you seem to be you wouldn't be just bring a rookie and protecting a mate, and with it being day 1 you can't possibly know him to be clear as town. So now I wonder what you know about rogueofoz that makes you so keen to ride to his rescue.
I pushed hard on him yes, but only when it was clear his story wasn't adding up. And that wasn't a language barrier, that was the story clearly changing.
fos rogueofoz and pinkys brain
I'll show examples when I get home what I'm talking about. As for defend people I always do it and people tell me it's scummy and I still don't care. Easy mislynches happen when people do nothing in my opinion. No I'm not saying I believe rogue to be 100% town right this moment but I don't see the behavior of scum.
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Yes, with three stipulations:
1. FOS according to the voting rules (i.e., you can only have one, you must unFOS before re-FOSing, keep them bolded and on new lines, etc.)
2. I probably won't bother to fix incorrect FOS counts.
3. I won't retroactively collect your FOSes from before this post. So the FOS count has been reset, effectively.
I'm going to use post #' to answer my feeling out the back and forth between rogue and generic.
Post 67 seems a bit extreme. Rogue states he relies on the right candidate. Not that he is electing u for that reason
Post 68 is pointless and definite making rogues comment invalid. I have seen gambles before and that is what rogue is saying.
Post 69 his idea was valuable vague hoping for night kill, but you seem to read it as don't lynch me no matter what because I'm important. This is what I mean about a corner no one gets put of at this point.
If you need quote or links in regArds to the above it will have to wait till much later.
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I'm going to use post #' to answer my feeling out the back and forth between rogue and generic.
Post 67 seems a bit extreme. Rogue states he relies on the right candidate. Not that he is electing u for that reason
Post 68 is pointless and definite making rogues comment invalid. I have seen gambles before and that is what rogue is saying.
Post 69 his idea was valuable vague hoping for night kill, but you seem to read it as don't lynch me no matter what because I'm important. This is what I mean about a corner no one gets put of at this point.
If you need quote or links in regArds to the above it will have to wait till much later.
Thats ok, Im mexican, I can see the analogy in politics everywhere.
On voting..... I think first day is always random (apart from the scum, that is never random) we just have very little (or no info at all) day one, to make an inform vote, but if someone has a method then we can surely use it.
@Pinky: Where did you get the idea that since he's Mexican, he can't speak English well? You're either prejudiced or you're just covering for him, so which is it?
@rphot I don't know if you have notice but in much of my post you can see that my spelling or gramatic is not quite perfect, I mean, I write as good as I can, but that's not the only example of me screwing up with gramatics.
I'm going to use post #' to answer my feeling out the back and forth between rogue and generic.
Post 67 seems a bit extreme. Rogue states he relies on the right candidate. Not that he is electing u for that reason
Post 68 is pointless and definite making rogues comment invalid. I have seen gambles before and that is what rogue is saying.
Post 69 his idea was valuable vague hoping for night kill, but you seem to read it as don't lynch me no matter what because I'm important. This is what I mean about a corner no one gets put of at this point.
If you need quote or links in regArds to the above it will have to wait till much later.
Thats ok, Im mexican, I can see the analogy in politics everywhere.
On voting..... I think first day is always random (apart from the scum, that is never random) we just have very little (or no info at all) day one, to make an inform vote, but if someone has a method then we can surely use it.
@Pinky: Where did you get the idea that since he's Mexican, he can't speak English well? You're either prejudiced or you're just covering for him, so which is it?
I said I would post examples of how I felt about the discuss. That post are my points
You don't claim to be important but want to look valuab
No, you are still digging downwards rogueofoz. You are using as a defence that you never claimed to be important, yet just admitted to wanting to look valuable to town... Since no cash offers are made for players I would suggest that I was right to use the word 'important'.
Down tiger. I think you making a mountain out of a molehill. I know rogue from mafiascum and he has a tendancy of foot mouth.
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And I am advertising that I should be elected president because it's probably the best possible play. And that's without me knowing anyone else's roles. My role is just that good.
So unless you'd like me to fullclaim, I advise you to elect me.
So you're saying you'll go public with your role info unless we do what you say?
I fail to see how that is a good idea. No-one is going to vote for you on that platform.
Please do not info-dump your classified information. You've surely seen what happens to people who blow the whistle on the US government.
And I am advertising that I should be elected president because it's probably the best possible play. And that's without me knowing anyone else's roles. My role is just that good.
So unless you'd like me to fullclaim, I advise you to elect me.
So you're saying you'll go public with your role info unless we do what you say?
I fail to see how that is a good idea. No-one is going to vote for you on that platform.
Please do not info-dump your classified information. You've surely seen what happens to people who blow the whistle on the US government.
It's so important that I become president today that I don't want to continue the game if I'm not. In the entire history of mafia I can't imagine a better play.
Discussions can continue of course but the day must end with me being president.
What about "I misread the rules" don't you understand? Any request for further clarification is just fishing for an idea of what my presidential ability is.
What about "I misread the rules" don't you understand? Any request for further clarification is just fishing for an idea of what my presidential ability is.
Calm down, son, this isn't an inquisition, yet.
We simply asked what changed your mind so drastically that electing you went from [quote=It's so important that I become president today that I don't want to continue the game if I'm not. In the entire history of mafia I can't imagine a better play.] to not really liek that big a deal actually. You used some ridiculously strong language, you must have misread pretty badly.
It's so important that I become president today that I don't want to continue the game if I'm not. In the entire history of mafia I can't imagine a better play.
Discussions can continue of course but the day must end with me being president.
Generic: If you thought my language was aggressive, how do you feel about the language used by RPHoT?
Stormblind: Any specific reason you wouldn't want to be president until you are "confirmed town?"
RPHoT: My posts have been centered around the president/election process because, to me, that's the most important thing we should be deciding. Our best bet for finding scum D1 will be found in peoples reactions to the entire kingmaker mechanic. Or found in the people who are non-committal and willing to just sit back and watch.
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I don't find P_B's defense of Rogue's language skills scummy at all. It was quite obvious, to me at least, that English was not his primary language. I wasn't a huge fan of people attacking him this early for a few typo's. He's definitely reading more noob-town to me after his exchange with generic.
RPHoT is starting to read like DRey, which means I have to go against my natural reaction to find his accusatory tone and aggressive language immediately scummy. Also, his quick change from *elect me or I'll full claim, elect me right now or I don't want to play in this game* to, *never mind on that, and if you question me, you're fishing* is terrible. First, there is no excuse for misreading the rules. Second, the language he is using here doesn't sound like something coming from someone who has the towns best interests in mind. Saying *I only know my role, but it's the best possible role to be president* is more self-centered than team oriented.
So he is a value to us later in the game, wants to be night killed night 1 but only after being lynched day 1. But its alright, because english isnt his first language and pinky has given him the all clear because he is apparently a n00b who is active on mafia scumBut... WTF?
I never said he was a noob by the way. I'm saying for what I know of rogue he doesn't say things well. As for his change between saying he was important to claiming he was looking for a night kill to lynch me I don't care can happen in a short space of time with someone who realized the screwed up their words and know it will just keep sounding bad
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[QUOTE=Bill Clinton;/comments/10881892]At the risk of putting words in other peoples mouths, stormblind has given the impression he is either godfather and will give a false reading, or doesnt want to accept responsibility for a mislynch (by being confirmed town any mistake he makes he wont have to defend because people will 'know' he is town). So either a mafia player or a presidential candidate with no fight... not winning this vote im afraid.
False Reading? It merely comes down to the fact that my presidential ability is completely irrelevant unless I am confirmed town. Simply how it works. Hence, don't want to be President due to that.
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"The Critics always said that we'd only have a black president when pigs flu"...
Generic: If you thought my language was aggressive, how do you feel about the language used by RPHoT?
Stormblind: Any specific reason you wouldn't want to be president until you are "confirmed town?"
RPHoT: My posts have been centered around the president/election process because, to me, that's the most important thing we should be deciding. Our best bet for finding scum D1 will be found in peoples reactions to the entire kingmaker mechanic. Or found in the people who are non-committal and willing to just sit back and watch.
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I don't find P_B's defense of Rogue's language skills scummy at all. It was quite obvious, to me at least, that English was not his primary language. I wasn't a huge fan of people attacking him this early for a few typo's. He's definitely reading more noob-town to me after his exchange with generic.
RPHoT is starting to read like DRey, which means I have to go against my natural reaction to find his accusatory tone and aggressive language immediately scummy. Also, his quick change from *elect me or I'll full claim, elect me right now or I don't want to play in this game* to, *never mind on that, and if you question me, you're fishing* is terrible. First, there is no excuse for misreading the rules. Second, the language he is using here doesn't sound like something coming from someone who has the towns best interests in mind. Saying *I only know my role, but it's the best possible role to be president* is more self-centered than team oriented.
I think A jester is unlikely, but possible, I'd have thought we'd be on 3/4 scum , or 2/3 scum and a Jester. (Going by the normal guess of between 1/4 and 1/3 scum).
I'm really not convinced by RPHoT's sudden retraction of his very urgent claim to be president. While a mistake is possible, the sheer amount of hyperbole before hand, reduced to a "oh I misread something" when suspicion started coming his way seems very off. The fact it was only light suspicion, going back over the thread does help his case however.
RPHoT, why did you decide to go back and look at the rules again?
Because my mafia buddies told me to. What do you think I was doing? I was looking at the player list to see who wasn't posting and I click on the rules while I am at it.
[QUOTE=Bill Clinton;/comments/10881892]At the risk of putting words in other peoples mouths, stormblind has given the impression he is either godfather and will give a false reading, or doesnt want to accept responsibility for a mislynch (by being confirmed town any mistake he makes he wont have to defend because people will 'know' he is town). So either a mafia player or a presidential candidate with no fight... not winning this vote im afraid.
False Reading? It merely comes down to the fact that my presidential ability is completely irrelevant unless I am confirmed town. Simply how it works. Hence, don't want to be President due to that.
Mechanically confirmed town? Or we trust you enough confirmed town?
Then I also endorse Storming because what sort of scum would do that?
Scum trying to make themselves look good without really doing anything. I don't like the way you are playing and this thought process you made is just really bad.
Then I also endorse Storming because what sort of scum would do that?
Scum trying to make themselves look good without really doing anything. I don't like the way you are playing and this thought process you made is just really bad.
1. There are no alignment-changing roles, jesters, cults, or other nonsense like that in this game.
so no jesters, even though it would certainty fit the theme.
So you are saying StormBlind is doing nothing? You call him scum but FOS me. He's doing far more than you see, my friend. He has no reason to be playing this badly as mafia, he clearly knows his ability and how it is most effective. He is not trying to win you over, he is just placing it all in the open.
Then I also endorse Storming because what sort of scum would do that?
Scum trying to make themselves look good without really doing anything. I don't like the way you are playing and this thought process you made is just really bad.
1. There are no alignment-changing roles, jesters, cults, or other nonsense like that in this game.
so no jesters, even though it would certainty fit the theme.
So you are saying StormBlind is doing nothing? You call him scum but FOS me. He's doing far more than you see, my friend. He has no reason to be playing this badly as mafia, he clearly knows his ability and how it is most effective. He is not trying to win you over, he is just placing it all in the open.
That is not the mindset of a scum, you see.
Are you sure he didn't misread the rules? I hear that's a common mistake.
What do you mean by "harder to play?" Like it is tough keeping it up for so long?
I seem to have forgotten about Bill Clinton. And I think Vermin is town since he has stopped pushing for my lynch and I don't think a scum would abandon that so sudden.
What do you mean by "harder to play?" Like it is tough keeping it up for so long?
I seem to have forgotten about Bill Clinton. And I think Vermin is town since he has stopped pushing for my lynch and I don't think a scum would abandon that so sudden.
What? My last post was me FOSing you. I most definitely have not dropped a case on you. I still don't trust you nor do I like your actions so far this game.
Also, why do you believe Pinky and rogue are scum?
You obviously did not read the full post by generic if this is your conclusion. Or your just throwing **** to see where it sticks?
I'm going to go back and reread a few things tomorrow. I do have one note.
@generic I'm going to disagree with your view on curious thing. All he has done so far is mod game. That is null actions. I have seen town and scum do that, it's easy to look like your participating while offering no more in the game. Till he discusses people in the game, he is on my no read list
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I really don't know why anyone would be throwing votes around when I already mentioned on page one how the game works.
Would you like to help scum any more today. Lets all just claim so the scum know who they should be worried about.
Down tiger. I think you making a mountain out of a molehill. I know rogue from mafiascum and he has a tendancy of foot in mouth.
You do know he stated at the start that English is not his first language?
This seems very like finding things just to make them sound good then scum hunting.
Fos Ron Paul the Hero of Time
I already answered this in thread. Any reason your asking pointless questions?
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I typically see these useless moments come from scum. No follow up, no reason for the questions, no really discussion about what is going on in the game. Just posting to post. That is my book is typical scum behavior.
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I'm asking these questions because I'm trying to /figure things out/. The game is still extremely young.
Vote Pinky's Brain
Because that's what I man, as of right now.
And, looks like Ron Paul hero of time, it's just trying to get on the bandwagon on my lynching, since I totally since my first post agreed on English not being my first language.
Yes I'm fully aware of that, and I'm in favor of lynching me D1 so damage can be somewhat control, but on the other hand, we can still try and hit some scum.
LOL, sure I won't, I'm just doing terrible in this game, I hope I can play a little better and be of some assistance and not a burden on the town.
I currently lean towards Bill's plan on how to vote/elect/lynch players. I understand the logic Generic is using, but I don't exactly agree with it.
I REALLY don't like the way RPTHOT (thats going to get annoying to type) is trying to scream "Vote me! Vote me!" It feels unnecessary and if he does have an ability, screaming it for all the mafia to hear is most definitely not the correct plan of action.
@RPTHOT Why do you feel it so necessary to do this? ^ Why do you want to lynch Bill exactly?
PRP just feels like bandwagoning to try and get an easy lynch on rogue (who I admit doesn't look very town right now) and his plan about choosing the same person as president every time either wasn't very well thought out or was scummy and we don't need people that don't think or that are scum so my feelings on him are pretty scummy at the moment.
@Mitt What are your feelings on Generic, Bill and rogue?
Generic (D): Pinkys_brain (R), Ron Paul the Hero of Time (R)
TMCT (D): Generic (D)
Pinkys_brain (R): Pope Ron Paul (R)
12 players in the game and 6 of each party, with people more likely to vote their own party for better abilities. The fact that there are two R voting Generic right now leads me to believe that PB and RPHoT are the most genuine in their expressions for a good President instead of helping theirselves to their abilities.
With that trend, Generic is the most likely person to be elected, even with his (D) buddy Vermin Supreme not in the game yet.
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RogueofOz is going to be really hard for me to read; I'm used to using language tells to catch scum. That being said, I'll be much more cautious of him and ask for clarification more than I normally would.
RPtHoT is playing at some weird gambit way too early. I don't trust his want to be president while spouting off about abilities this early in the game.
@Ron Paul the Hero of Time: Why am I on your "want dead" list? List specifics on why you think I'm scum. So far all you've said is that I'm talking in "Generics" (Nice pun, btw) and that I'm "Talking out of my ass." What about my responses to Generic didn't you like? Do you think I'm being genuine in my statements?
Reading the back & forth between u and rogue was in my view was u putting words in his mouth and no matter how or what he said it was wrong. Plus RPHoT barning u and only adding trivial gramical problem has me butting in.
@ mitt why did u include my name in the question at all? What is your opinion of generic, rogue, or anyone here thus far?
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I wasn't a huge fan of Clinton's earlier D1 posts, and his later posts seem like setup speculating to me. I'm not a huge fan on how he keeps concentrating on the presidential aspect of the game.
I like Generic's questions.
@MegMod: Can you keep track of FoSes?
I really don't like Ron Paul The Hero Of Time's posts. He hops on the Generic bandwagon and he tries to mudsling Bill.
...and he tries to follow that up with a weak language tell, which isn't even valid.
FoS Ron Paul The Hero Of Time
I'm assuming i can't vote myself. Otherwise I would.
You guys realize that Rogue said he has poor English AFTER I said that? Stop that.
I retract the language tell, but the inconsistent mindset is still valid. Do you and Pinky actually think that you've poked a hole in it? No, all you've done is explained something to me, and you're overreacting with FOSes and votes.
Bill hasn't said anything remarkable in the entirety of his text.
And I am advertising that I should be elected president because it's probably the best possible play. And that's without me knowing anyone else's roles. My role is just that good.
So unless you'd like me to fullclaim, I advise you to elect me.
You're spending more time talking about mafia theory and game mechanics than actually talking about anyone. This is your first notable post in the entire game, and all you've said is that you cant read Rogue and you want to know why I want you dead. You're so self-interested.
And that makes Generic's points invalid how?
I thought I saw something, and Pinky pointed out that I was wrong. What is foot on in your head?
I'll show examples when I get home what I'm talking about. As for defend people I always do it and people tell me it's scummy and I still don't care. Easy mislynches happen when people do nothing in my opinion. No I'm not saying I believe rogue to be 100% town right this moment but I don't see the behavior of scum.
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1. FOS according to the voting rules (i.e., you can only have one, you must unFOS before re-FOSing, keep them bolded and on new lines, etc.)
2. I probably won't bother to fix incorrect FOS counts.
3. I won't retroactively collect your FOSes from before this post. So the FOS count has been reset, effectively.
See post #8, "I'm Mexican" isn't that gives you an indication that my post might not quite be all the grammatically correct?
Since english is not the official language in Mexico
Foot in mouth, not head.
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Post 67 seems a bit extreme. Rogue states he relies on the right candidate. Not that he is electing u for that reason
Post 68 is pointless and definite making rogues comment invalid. I have seen gambles before and that is what rogue is saying.
Post 69 his idea was valuable vague hoping for night kill, but you seem to read it as don't lynch me no matter what because I'm important. This is what I mean about a corner no one gets put of at this point.
If you need quote or links in regArds to the above it will have to wait till much later.
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More on this in a moment...
What is your point?
@Pinky: Where did you get the idea that since he's Mexican, he can't speak English well? You're either prejudiced or you're just covering for him, so which is it?
The one thing I did see, I don't want to be elected unless I am confirmed town via some method.
I said I would post examples of how I felt about the discuss. That post are my points
Second if you would refer to the quote.
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I fail to see how that is a good idea. No-one is going to vote for you on that platform.
Please do not info-dump your classified information. You've surely seen what happens to people who blow the whistle on the US government.
It's so important that I become president today that I don't want to continue the game if I'm not. In the entire history of mafia I can't imagine a better play.
Discussions can continue of course but the day must end with me being president.
What has changed so greatly that you no longer wish to be President?
Please explain.
We simply asked what changed your mind so drastically that electing you went from [quote=It's so important that I become president today that I don't want to continue the game if I'm not. In the entire history of mafia I can't imagine a better play.] to not really liek that big a deal actually. You used some ridiculously strong language, you must have misread pretty badly.
Stormblind: Any specific reason you wouldn't want to be president until you are "confirmed town?"
RPHoT: My posts have been centered around the president/election process because, to me, that's the most important thing we should be deciding. Our best bet for finding scum D1 will be found in peoples reactions to the entire kingmaker mechanic. Or found in the people who are non-committal and willing to just sit back and watch.
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I don't find P_B's defense of Rogue's language skills scummy at all. It was quite obvious, to me at least, that English was not his primary language. I wasn't a huge fan of people attacking him this early for a few typo's. He's definitely reading more noob-town to me after his exchange with generic.
RPHoT is starting to read like DRey, which means I have to go against my natural reaction to find his accusatory tone and aggressive language immediately scummy. Also, his quick change from *elect me or I'll full claim, elect me right now or I don't want to play in this game* to, *never mind on that, and if you question me, you're fishing* is terrible. First, there is no excuse for misreading the rules. Second, the language he is using here doesn't sound like something coming from someone who has the towns best interests in mind. Saying *I only know my role, but it's the best possible role to be president* is more self-centered than team oriented.
I never said he was a noob by the way. I'm saying for what I know of rogue he doesn't say things well. As for his change between saying he was important to claiming he was looking for a night kill to lynch me I don't care can happen in a short space of time with someone who realized the screwed up their words and know it will just keep sounding bad
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False Reading? It merely comes down to the fact that my presidential ability is completely irrelevant unless I am confirmed town. Simply how it works. Hence, don't want to be President due to that.
Yet you've barely expressed an opinion on anyone.
Because my mafia buddies told me to. What do you think I was doing? I was looking at the player list to see who wasn't posting and I click on the rules while I am at it.
Mechanically confirmed town? Or we trust you enough confirmed town?
If all we need to do is trust him then i dont see the problem. But i can tell you have trust issues.
Either Or.
Scum trying to make themselves look good without really doing anything. I don't like the way you are playing and this thought process you made is just really bad.
FOS RPTHOT
Also the game rules say
so no jesters, even though it would certainty fit the theme.
So you are saying StormBlind is doing nothing? You call him scum but FOS me. He's doing far more than you see, my friend. He has no reason to be playing this badly as mafia, he clearly knows his ability and how it is most effective. He is not trying to win you over, he is just placing it all in the open.
That is not the mindset of a scum, you see.
Also: Please WIFOM less. Thank you.
I think our scum are Jon, Rogue, and Pinky.
I seem to have forgotten about Bill Clinton. And I think Vermin is town since he has stopped pushing for my lynch and I don't think a scum would abandon that so sudden.
What? My last post was me FOSing you. I most definitely have not dropped a case on you. I still don't trust you nor do I like your actions so far this game.
Also, why do you believe Pinky and rogue are scum?
I find this very hard to believe
You obviously did not read the full post by generic if this is your conclusion. Or your just throwing **** to see where it sticks?
I'm going to go back and reread a few things tomorrow. I do have one note.
@generic I'm going to disagree with your view on curious thing. All he has done so far is mod game. That is null actions. I have seen town and scum do that, it's easy to look like your participating while offering no more in the game. Till he discusses people in the game, he is on my no read list
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It's like playing with Seppel in the early days. As though he thinks that just saying "I'M TOWN" will make everyone believe him.