2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, /barn TMCT. How would kpaca be incriminated by... dayvigging a vig? How would he/scumteam know you were a vig yourself?
I'm not quite fully getting what Mr. Occam is whispering on my ear right now, but I think it's something like "Just lynch AG dumbasses". Might be my imagination though
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Man, you're just shutting down, aren't you? I gave plenty of reasons for why I think you're scum.
You've only given generalities. When I question your generalities you say you "forgot" and that they were "other people's evidence". That means your case is nothing but air.
Still can't get past the reasoning for the delay being to see how the wagon formed when subsequent post seems quite obv that you didn't expect a wagon to form.
I'm ready to vote AG whenever we deem we're ready to move on.
In the meantime, AG, care to answer my question (it was f'reals):
Man, you're just shutting down, aren't you? I gave plenty of reasons for why I think you're scum.
You've only given generalities. When I question your generalities you say you "forgot" and that they were "other people's evidence". That means your case is nothing but air.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Still can't get past the reasoning for the delay being to see how the wagon formed when subsequent post seems quite obv that you didn't expect a wagon to form.
I'm ready to vote AG whenever we deem we're ready to move on.
In the meantime, AG, care to answer my question (it was f'reals):
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Man, you're just shutting down, aren't you? I gave plenty of reasons for why I think you're scum.
You've only given generalities. When I question your generalities you say you "forgot" and that they were "other people's evidence". That means your case is nothing but air.
Have you read my posts?
I thought I did. Show me where you provided actual evidence.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I do apologize for leaving Iso in the dark about his initial question, but when he started to question me was when I realized that a wagon was incoming and went with it.
That doesn't make sense. Why would questions always lead to a wagon?
Or rather, why did you think you would be wagoned on something you called 'ridiculous'?
I realized that Iso questioning would lead to others following him. It's something he manages to pull off.
That still doesn't give any reason for why you expected a wagon to form on you.
It's almost like you were feeling guilty or something.
EWP: And TMCT brings up the point that he and kpaca had questioned you before that regarding the same point, but you refused to answer.
My response to kpaca was the overall response to the initial questions. Claiming Godfather, combined with a random vote, combined with "36char" seemed enough to demonstrate that it was an RVS from my view. What purpose would I ever have to do that as scum?
If it was an RVS post, why would you make a non-RVS post before that?
I don't see a probability of me telling the truth... but I sort of got lost half way through the post.
So for the confused masses what exactly are you trying to say other than I am 41% scum?
He is roughly saying that you claiming your role in this manner is more likely a behavior of scum than a behavior of town. The numbers don't mean much because they are only his guesses.
My RVS post was written back when everyone was confirmed but it was still Night 0. The earlier post in the thread was a short response while stopping by between classes.
So explain why you had an RVS post after you obviously noticed that RVS was over.
What part of that is inconsistent? I responded to both your and kpaca's posts by asking what the problem was. I hadn't seen any reason for why you guys cared about an RVS post so much.
Both of you said "Explain". My explanation was "RVS". I didn't know what else you guys wanted. Your question was imprecise.
"Explain the hex post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*avoids next question about it*
*avoiding explanation continues*
I haven't had a single inconsistency in this thread. I don't see how honestly answering your questions about an RVS post makes me scummier. Both you and Iso now seem to be reading outside factors into my posts that just aren't there. You seem to be expecting scum and so read scum into my posts.
Provide something specific for why you think I am scummy. Tell me exactly what I've done that is scummy and I'll claim.
- Claimed godfather
- Avoided questioning re: that post
- Says it's RVS after I-don't-know-how-many-posts (when you could have said that in response to the initial questioning)
Still can't get past the reasoning for the delay being to see how the wagon formed when subsequent post seems quite obv that you didn't expect a wagon to form.
I'm ready to vote AG whenever we deem we're ready to move on.
Since Iso is refusing, does ANYONE want to provide evidence?
*expects wagon to form*
"This wagon is ridiculous!"
---
*claims Godfather*
"Explain that post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*proceeds to avoid explaining*
---
*non-RVS post*
*claims Godfather in apparently RVS post*
"That was totally a RVS post guys!"
Yeah, no. And that's only the parts I could fit into amusing conversation snippets.
"How would daykilling the vig have been incriminating?"?
Is that really your question?
How many killing roles do you think town has? Claiming Vig after killing the Vig is considered trustworthy?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but kpaca "vigged" you a helluva posts before you even hinted, oathed, claimed to be a vig. He didn't claim it after you did (he didn't claim at all, as his "daykill" was nonexistent)... which makes your point moot.
"How would daykilling the vig have been incriminating?"?
Is that really your question?
How many killing roles do you think town has? Claiming Vig after killing the Vig is considered trustworthy?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but kpaca "vigged" you a helluva posts before you even hinted, oathed, claimed to be a vig. He didn't claim it after you did (he didn't claim at all, as his "daykill" was nonexistent)... which makes your point moot.
Huh? How is him having to claim vig after killing the vig moot?
I do apologize for leaving Iso in the dark about his initial question, but when he started to question me was when I realized that a wagon was incoming and went with it.
That doesn't make sense. Why would questions always lead to a wagon?
Or rather, why did you think you would be wagoned on something you called 'ridiculous'?
I realized that Iso questioning would lead to others following him. It's something he manages to pull off.
That still doesn't give any reason for why you expected a wagon to form on you.
It's almost like you were feeling guilty or something.
EWP: And TMCT brings up the point that he and kpaca had questioned you before that regarding the same point, but you refused to answer.
Before that I didn't understand what they wanted. TMCT and kpaca didn't do anything beyond "Explain".
Iso posted an actual question about the time that the mod also questioned my intentions. Those two facts combined showed me that more people would come. Kosa has been incredibly scummy in every single one of his posts since then, as an example.
My response to kpaca was the overall response to the initial questions. Claiming Godfather, combined with a random vote, combined with "36char" seemed enough to demonstrate that it was an RVS from my view. What purpose would I ever have to do that as scum?
If it was an RVS post, why would you make a non-RVS post before that?
I don't see a probability of me telling the truth... but I sort of got lost half way through the post.
So for the confused masses what exactly are you trying to say other than I am 41% scum?
He is roughly saying that you claiming your role in this manner is more likely a behavior of scum than a behavior of town. The numbers don't mean much because they are only his guesses.
My RVS post was written back when everyone was confirmed but it was still Night 0. The earlier post in the thread was a short response while stopping by between classes.
So explain why you had an RVS post after you obviously noticed that RVS was over.
I already had it typed out and I wanted to post my RVS post.
What part of that is inconsistent? I responded to both your and kpaca's posts by asking what the problem was. I hadn't seen any reason for why you guys cared about an RVS post so much.
Both of you said "Explain". My explanation was "RVS". I didn't know what else you guys wanted. Your question was imprecise.
"Explain the hex post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*avoids next question about it*
*avoiding explanation continues*
Yeah, no.
It's so much fun debating with multiple people that use "NO" as if it were an actual argument.
I haven't had a single inconsistency in this thread. I don't see how honestly answering your questions about an RVS post makes me scummier. Both you and Iso now seem to be reading outside factors into my posts that just aren't there. You seem to be expecting scum and so read scum into my posts.
Provide something specific for why you think I am scummy. Tell me exactly what I've done that is scummy and I'll claim.
- Claimed godfather
- Avoided questioning re: that post
- Says it's RVS after I-don't-know-how-many-posts (when you could have said that in response to the initial questioning)
Since Iso is refusing, does ANYONE want to provide evidence?
*expects wagon to form*
"This wagon is ridiculous!"
---
*claims Godfather*
"Explain that post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*proceeds to avoid explaining*
---
*non-RVS post*
*claims Godfather in apparently RVS post*
"That was totally a RVS post guys!"
Yeah, no. And that's only the parts I could fit into amusing conversation snippets.
I never said the wagon forming was ridiculous. I said that Guardman's argument that I expected nobody to understand the post was ridiculous.
Is the entire argument against me that I posted an RVS? That's the only evidence being brought against me. Is that considered lynch material?
I'm not convinced AG is scum, I think this is a witch hunt but it seems everyone's already convinced.
Currently I believe that Kpaca and Iso are town. Either they are just really experienced at mafia or just have me completely fooled. The first to accuse strongarm bad cop routine has led to alot of information. It puts pressure on people and makes them slip up. I like this.
I think scum will have jumped on this wagon without reading between the lines and started adding a lot of pressure. AG has tons of questions being thrown at him which I think is leaving him dazed and confused. He definitely could have handled some of the questions being thrown at him in a better way but I'm still not convinced.
Why the hell would someone actually claim godfather if they were actually scum.
I don't understand how people are passing pikachu off as noob. He said this is his fourth game, still hasn't had any posts with substance. I think he is trying to mask himself in the crowd and be passed off as a noob.
This is literally my first game of mafia. Maybe it takes a noob to catch a noob.
It puts pressure on people and makes them slip up. I like this.
But you don't think AtheistGod has slipped?
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I think scum will have jumped on this wagon without reading between the lines and started adding a lot of pressure. AG has tons of questions being thrown at him which I think is leaving him dazed and confused. He definitely could have handled some of the questions being thrown at him in a better way but I'm still not convinced.
What would convince you?
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Why the hell would someone actually claim godfather if they were actually scum.
Why would someone be forced to claim VT or Miller at the risk of having one randomly selected for you?
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I don't understand how people are passing pikachu off as noob. He said this is his fourth game, still hasn't had any posts with substance. I think he is trying to mask himself in the crowd and be passed off as a noob.
Because I've had experience with PG. I know how he plays.
I'm relatively certain that you are scum independent of AG's alignment, though him being scum definitely makes it look like you're deflecting from his wagon on to low-hanging fruit here.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Well I've had enough of this passive aggressive responses to any questions sent his way.
Given his lack of responses I am guessing he didn't expect anybody to crack the code and is now trying to passive aggressive his way out of it.
Vote AtheistGod
What?!? This wagon is bordering on ridiculous. TMCT, you can explain this to Guardman if you want.
Also, what is scummy for you in my responses? That I am logically pressuring you on your lack of explanations/contradictions? Your first "Hey now I found Kosa scummy" post only wasn't a complete OMGUS because you didn't vote for me on it, but nonetheless, you still haven't made a point on why I sound scummy to you.
Last but not least, what the... how does it makes sense kpaca claiming vig or SK, I don't even, gosh
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm Moeka, she is the hired killer in the show. Does that require a flavor explanation?
:o:o:o
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That's the only evidence being brought against me.
:o:o:o:o:o
Iso, if you are as good as people claim you are then you are beyond this. I thought you were town initially but the way you've handled the past few pages doesn't match with a town mindset.
This worldline, the omega worldline, is different from the worldlines you knew from before. Because of the D-mail, SERN's influence ran far deeper this time. Those who were your friends in other worldlines may well be SERN agents this time around.
I don't understand how people are passing pikachu off as noob. He said this is his fourth game, still hasn't had any posts with substance. I think he is trying to mask himself in the crowd and be passed off as a noob.
This is literally my first game of mafia. Maybe it takes a noob to catch a noob.
vote Pikachugundam
So wait, you state you don't believe how people are passing him off as a noob, and that you think he's trying to be passed off as a noob, but then you go on and say that you're a noob and maybe it takes a noob to catch another.
...Meaning you actually believe him to be a noob, contradicting the whole point of yourself not believe how people are passing him as a noob, since, well, you too considers him one. Meaning you are trying to frame him on baseless grounds.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't know anything about the flavor so that doesn't tell me anything.
What is non-town about my mindset? I'd love to hear this.
You're only arguments have been "NO". You continue to ride this wagon and want to lynch without providing any support for your claims. And then we have you finally come up with an argument and it is flavorgaming a character name. Your initial question was good, and I've already addressed that issue, but you seem to have made your decision before I posted any of the information. Going into a wagon while refusing to provide support or listen to arguments is not a townie mindset.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
That still doesn't give any reason for why you expected a wagon to form on you.
It's almost like you were feeling guilty or something.
EWP: And TMCT brings up the point that he and kpaca had questioned you before that regarding the same point, but you refused to answer.
Before that I didn't understand what they wanted. TMCT and kpaca didn't do anything beyond "Explain".
Iso posted an actual question about the time that the mod also questioned my intentions. Those two facts combined showed me that more people would come. Kosa has been incredibly scummy in every single one of his posts since then, as an example.
You ignored part of the point. And not to mention:
My RVS post was written back when everyone was confirmed but it was still Night 0. The earlier post in the thread was a short response while stopping by between classes.
So explain why you had an RVS post after you obviously noticed that RVS was over.
I already had it typed out and I wanted to post my RVS post.
And you avoided saying it was RVS for I-don't-know-how-many-posts why?
What part of that is inconsistent? I responded to both your and kpaca's posts by asking what the problem was. I hadn't seen any reason for why you guys cared about an RVS post so much.
Both of you said "Explain". My explanation was "RVS". I didn't know what else you guys wanted. Your question was imprecise.
"Explain the hex post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*avoids next question about it*
*avoiding explanation continues*
Yeah, no.
It's so much fun debating with multiple people that use "NO" as if it were an actual argument.
I'm far too lazy to quote the entire sequence of you continually avoiding the question.
Your explanation was that it was RVS...long after the first question was asked.
I'm not saying it wasn't RVS. I'm saying you couldn't help putting that in, much like someone couldn't help putting "I'm scum" in their RVS post when they were scum.
The problem's when you were asked to explain it and you couldn't, avoiding the question instead.
Since Iso is refusing, does ANYONE want to provide evidence?
*expects wagon to form*
"This wagon is ridiculous!"
---
*claims Godfather*
"Explain that post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*proceeds to avoid explaining*
---
*non-RVS post*
*claims Godfather in apparently RVS post*
"That was totally a RVS post guys!"
Yeah, no. And that's only the parts I could fit into amusing conversation snippets.
I never said the wagon forming was ridiculous. I said that Guardman's argument that I expected nobody to understand the post was ridiculous.
First, I like how you ignored the parts you couldn't answer.
I'm not convinced AG is scum, I think this is a witch hunt but it seems everyone's already convinced.
Currently I believe that Kpaca and Iso are town. Either they are just really experienced at mafia or just have me completely fooled. The first to accuse strongarm bad cop routine has led to alot of information. It puts pressure on people and makes them slip up. I like this.
So what slips have you seen so far?
I haven't seen you mention any.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
My RVS post was written back when everyone was confirmed but it was still Night 0. The earlier post in the thread was a short response while stopping by between classes.
So explain why you had an RVS post after you obviously noticed that RVS was over.
I already had it typed out and I wanted to post my RVS post.
And you avoided saying it was RVS for I-don't-know-how-many-posts why?
What part of that is inconsistent? I responded to both your and kpaca's posts by asking what the problem was. I hadn't seen any reason for why you guys cared about an RVS post so much.
Both of you said "Explain". My explanation was "RVS". I didn't know what else you guys wanted. Your question was imprecise.
"Explain the hex post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*avoids next question about it*
*avoiding explanation continues*
Yeah, no.
It's so much fun debating with multiple people that use "NO" as if it were an actual argument.
I'm far too lazy to quote the entire sequence of you continually avoiding the question.
Your explanation was that it was RVS...long after the first question was asked.
I didn't claim it as RVS because I assumed that was obvious.
I'm not saying it wasn't RVS. I'm saying you couldn't help putting that in, much like someone couldn't help putting "I'm scum" in their RVS post when they were scum.
The problem's when you were asked to explain it and you couldn't, avoiding the question instead.
Having already explained it, how am I unable to explain it?
I'm Moeka, she is the hired killer in the show. Does that require a flavor explanation?
Not seeing any reason to see you as town here.
This seems to be a pattern, supplying the answers that people want doesn't change their opinion in this game. Why even ask the questions then? Why even play with that mindset?
Since Iso is refusing, does ANYONE want to provide evidence?
*expects wagon to form*
"This wagon is ridiculous!"
---
*claims Godfather*
"Explain that post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*proceeds to avoid explaining*
---
*non-RVS post*
*claims Godfather in apparently RVS post*
"That was totally a RVS post guys!"
Yeah, no. And that's only the parts I could fit into amusing conversation snippets.
I never said the wagon forming was ridiculous. I said that Guardman's argument that I expected nobody to understand the post was ridiculous.
First, I like how you ignored the parts you couldn't answer.
TCMT was the one who translated my post, he knew it was ASCII.
And your point is?
I've already given you mine, what is yours?
My point is that you had no reason to expect him to give that response, especially given the fact that your response makes no sense in the first place.
Just because it was translated doesn't mean that someone wanted it to be translated. That's like saying, "we cracked their cipher - that must mean they wanted it to be cracked".
My RVS post was written back when everyone was confirmed but it was still Night 0. The earlier post in the thread was a short response while stopping by between classes.
So explain why you had an RVS post after you obviously noticed that RVS was over.
I already had it typed out and I wanted to post my RVS post.
And you avoided saying it was RVS for I-don't-know-how-many-posts why?
Already been answered.
Oh right. That part where you said it was "self-explanatory", and then refused to answer questions so that you could "analyze the wagon", and then say the wagon's ridiculous.
What part of that is inconsistent? I responded to both your and kpaca's posts by asking what the problem was. I hadn't seen any reason for why you guys cared about an RVS post so much.
Both of you said "Explain". My explanation was "RVS". I didn't know what else you guys wanted. Your question was imprecise.
"Explain the hex post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*avoids next question about it*
*avoiding explanation continues*
Yeah, no.
It's so much fun debating with multiple people that use "NO" as if it were an actual argument.
I'm far too lazy to quote the entire sequence of you continually avoiding the question.
Your explanation was that it was RVS...long after the first question was asked.
I didn't claim it as RVS because I assumed that was obvious.
It's so obvious that three (or was it four) different people were asking you to explain it.
I'm not saying it wasn't RVS. I'm saying you couldn't help putting that in, much like someone couldn't help putting "I'm scum" in their RVS post when they were scum.
The problem's when you were asked to explain it and you couldn't, avoiding the question instead.
Having already explained it, how am I unable to explain it?
But you didn't explain it - you said it was self-explanatory. That's not an explanation, especially when people kept asking you about it.
I'm Moeka, she is the hired killer in the show. Does that require a flavor explanation?
Not seeing any reason to see you as town here.
This seems to be a pattern, supplying the answers that people want doesn't change their opinion in this game. Why even ask the questions then? Why even play with that mindset?
If your answers had a reason to change my opinion, maybe it would happen. Instead, they reinforce it.
Especially since you don't seem to be able to give me any flavour that makes it sound like you're town.
Since Iso is refusing, does ANYONE want to provide evidence?
*expects wagon to form*
"This wagon is ridiculous!"
---
*claims Godfather*
"Explain that post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*proceeds to avoid explaining*
---
*non-RVS post*
*claims Godfather in apparently RVS post*
"That was totally a RVS post guys!"
Yeah, no. And that's only the parts I could fit into amusing conversation snippets.
I never said the wagon forming was ridiculous. I said that Guardman's argument that I expected nobody to understand the post was ridiculous.
First, I like how you ignored the parts you couldn't answer.
Just because it was translated doesn't mean that someone wanted it to be translated. That's like saying, "we cracked their cipher - that must mean they wanted it to be cracked".
It isn't a cipher...
The hexadecimal numbers (0-F instead of 0-9) 41-5A represent the capital letters and 61-7A represent the lowercase letters. (the same as 65-90 and 97-122 in decimal numbers)
So you are admitting to being scum?
Then why do you feel that I'm full of ****?
Let's go with the way my PM is formatted.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Formatting is your reason? You act like I was supposed to paste my PM into the thread.
That's the closest I'm going to get to giving you a reason without claiming.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Night, multiple.
How?
Funny, that's a skill that scum tends to have in a lot of games
Cute.
I laughed.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm not quite fully getting what Mr. Occam is whispering on my ear right now, but I think it's something like "Just lynch AG dumbasses". Might be my imagination though
Are you saying I need more evidence?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You never gave any.
Which.
...
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You've only given generalities. When I question your generalities you say you "forgot" and that they were "other people's evidence". That means your case is nothing but air.
"How would daykilling the vig have been incriminating?"?
Is that really your question?
How many killing roles do you think town has? Claiming Vig after killing the Vig is considered trustworthy?
I'm ready to vote AG whenever we deem we're ready to move on.
In the meantime, AG, care to answer my question (it was f'reals):
Have you read my posts?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Which posts show that? Quote them.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I thought I did. Show me where you provided actual evidence.
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Oh boy, good old guilty until proven innocent is it?
And why were you expecting TCMT to give that explanation again?
That still doesn't give any reason for why you expected a wagon to form on you.
It's almost like you were feeling guilty or something.
EWP: And TMCT brings up the point that he and kpaca had questioned you before that regarding the same point, but you refused to answer.
So explain why you had an RVS post after you obviously noticed that RVS was over.
"Explain the hex post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*avoids next question about it*
*avoiding explanation continues*
Yeah, no.
- Claimed godfather
- Avoided questioning re: that post
- Says it's RVS after I-don't-know-how-many-posts (when you could have said that in response to the initial questioning)
I'd expect you to paraphrase your flavour, but it's obviously not happening.
Yep, this.
*expects wagon to form*
"This wagon is ridiculous!"
---
*claims Godfather*
"Explain that post."
"It's self-explanatory."
*proceeds to avoid explaining*
---
*non-RVS post*
*claims Godfather in apparently RVS post*
"That was totally a RVS post guys!"
Yeah, no. And that's only the parts I could fit into amusing conversation snippets.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but kpaca "vigged" you a helluva posts before you even hinted, oathed, claimed to be a vig. He didn't claim it after you did (he didn't claim at all, as his "daykill" was nonexistent)... which makes your point moot.
Huh? How is him having to claim vig after killing the vig moot?
TCMT was the one who translated my post, he knew it was ASCII.
Before that I didn't understand what they wanted. TMCT and kpaca didn't do anything beyond "Explain".
Iso posted an actual question about the time that the mod also questioned my intentions. Those two facts combined showed me that more people would come. Kosa has been incredibly scummy in every single one of his posts since then, as an example.
I already had it typed out and I wanted to post my RVS post.
It's so much fun debating with multiple people that use "NO" as if it were an actual argument.
If it wasn't RVS, then tell me what it was.
I'm Moeka, she is the hired killer in the show. Does that require a flavor explanation?
I never said the wagon forming was ridiculous. I said that Guardman's argument that I expected nobody to understand the post was ridiculous.
Is the entire argument against me that I posted an RVS? That's the only evidence being brought against me. Is that considered lynch material?
You're right, kpaca was going to claim SK.
Currently I believe that Kpaca and Iso are town. Either they are just really experienced at mafia or just have me completely fooled. The first to accuse strongarm bad cop routine has led to alot of information. It puts pressure on people and makes them slip up. I like this.
I think scum will have jumped on this wagon without reading between the lines and started adding a lot of pressure. AG has tons of questions being thrown at him which I think is leaving him dazed and confused. He definitely could have handled some of the questions being thrown at him in a better way but I'm still not convinced.
Why the hell would someone actually claim godfather if they were actually scum.
I don't understand how people are passing pikachu off as noob. He said this is his fourth game, still hasn't had any posts with substance. I think he is trying to mask himself in the crowd and be passed off as a noob.
This is literally my first game of mafia. Maybe it takes a noob to catch a noob.
vote Pikachugundam
Outdated Mafia Stats
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But you don't think AtheistGod has slipped?
What would convince you?
Why would someone be forced to claim VT or Miller at the risk of having one randomly selected for you?
Because I've had experience with PG. I know how he plays.
I'm relatively certain that you are scum independent of AG's alignment, though him being scum definitely makes it look like you're deflecting from his wagon on to low-hanging fruit here.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The bolded part below seems to believe you can't stop contradicting yourself.
Also, what is scummy for you in my responses? That I am logically pressuring you on your lack of explanations/contradictions? Your first "Hey now I found Kosa scummy" post only wasn't a complete OMGUS because you didn't vote for me on it, but nonetheless, you still haven't made a point on why I sound scummy to you.
Last but not least, what the... how does it makes sense kpaca claiming vig or SK, I don't even, gosh
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Iso, if you are as good as people claim you are then you are beyond this. I thought you were town initially but the way you've handled the past few pages doesn't match with a town mindset.
So wait, you state you don't believe how people are passing him off as a noob, and that you think he's trying to be passed off as a noob, but then you go on and say that you're a noob and maybe it takes a noob to catch another.
...Meaning you actually believe him to be a noob, contradicting the whole point of yourself not believe how people are passing him as a noob, since, well, you too considers him one. Meaning you are trying to frame him on baseless grounds.
FoS 7hawk77
Going after you tomorrow.
What is non-town about my mindset? I'd love to hear this.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You're only arguments have been "NO". You continue to ride this wagon and want to lynch without providing any support for your claims. And then we have you finally come up with an argument and it is flavorgaming a character name. Your initial question was good, and I've already addressed that issue, but you seem to have made your decision before I posted any of the information. Going into a wagon while refusing to provide support or listen to arguments is not a townie mindset.
Damn.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
And your point is?
You ignored part of the point. And not to mention:
The mod already knew your intentions before the first question was asked.
Check and mate.
And you avoided saying it was RVS for I-don't-know-how-many-posts why?
I'm far too lazy to quote the entire sequence of you continually avoiding the question.
Your explanation was that it was RVS...long after the first question was asked.
I'm not saying it wasn't RVS. I'm saying you couldn't help putting that in, much like someone couldn't help putting "I'm scum" in their RVS post when they were scum.
The problem's when you were asked to explain it and you couldn't, avoiding the question instead.
Not seeing any reason to see you as town here.
First, I like how you ignored the parts you couldn't answer.
Obvious lie, etc, etc, etc.
So what slips have you seen so far?
I haven't seen you mention any.
Noting that the "godfather" thing was in his second post - Guardman said it had to be in the first.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I've already given you mine, what is yours?
Already been answered.
I didn't claim it as RVS because I assumed that was obvious.
Having already explained it, how am I unable to explain it?
This seems to be a pattern, supplying the answers that people want doesn't change their opinion in this game. Why even ask the questions then? Why even play with that mindset?
Today we learn how to ignore quotations! It turns out that Guardman was in fact on "This wagon" when i wrote that.
Just because it was translated doesn't mean that someone wanted it to be translated. That's like saying, "we cracked their cipher - that must mean they wanted it to be cracked".
Oh right. That part where you said it was "self-explanatory", and then refused to answer questions so that you could "analyze the wagon", and then say the wagon's ridiculous.
Right.
It's so obvious that three (or was it four) different people were asking you to explain it.
Why do I have a feeling this doesn't make sense?
But you didn't explain it - you said it was self-explanatory. That's not an explanation, especially when people kept asking you about it.
If your answers had a reason to change my opinion, maybe it would happen. Instead, they reinforce it.
Especially since you don't seem to be able to give me any flavour that makes it sound like you're town.
And so you're referring to Guardman when you're saying "this wagon", and not the wagon itself, or anyone else on it.
Why doesn't this seem to make sense?
It isn't a cipher...
The hexadecimal numbers (0-F instead of 0-9) 41-5A represent the capital letters and 61-7A represent the lowercase letters. (the same as 65-90 and 97-122 in decimal numbers)