@TCM: Why is it a big deal I still left my vote on him. Until you posted, not everyone has had a chance to CC, so at that point he can still be lying. Given my previous opinion of him, he was guilty until proven innocent. You finally joining us again, now he is proven innocent.
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@Void: If Voxx had suddenly replaced out with no reason and no responses to those statements, I'd lean Voxx town. That is what the 2nd sentence meant. Overall I was not sure until response, but he move at first looked fairly town. His response cemented it from my view.
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At this point I am more confident in the fact that AE is scum along with either Shark or Voxx. Voxx is a gut read, but Shark has reasons.
Why still vote me if you are more sure AE is scum?
Aside from that, I also agree with Void's logic on AE, specifically the fact he is godfather. If you all remember, AE said that we should vig the Godfather first, and the way he seemed to provoke a reaction out of me during RVS also struck a chord.
Vote Archmage Eternal
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Hmm. I'm not getting strong scum vibes from any of our potential targets at this point, aside from our apparent cop *grimace*. Seems like some PBPAs are going to be in order. Of anyone, Archmage seems the most likely avenue.
Although...hmm. Void being the cop kind of trashes my initial read on Vox, though. Yeah, I need to regroup and reread.
*think think*
I don't see myself getting behind a Shark wagon at this point though. He's been reading pretty naturally. Silver *could* be a very skilled scum, but nothing he's posted has given me any cause for concern. TCM is a null read. So's Vox, for now. Archmage has been the most emotionally volatile, and he did seem to smell blood in the water with the cop claim.
So, Archmage, TCM, and Vox are on the radar. Silver behind them. And we still have a 2nd power role unclaimed. Running out of time, though.
Also another point on me not unvoting Void, I don't feel like throwing my vote around in this game. I vote a player I think is scum and I'll stick with it until the situation arises that someone else is clearly a better option. Note the fact I have also been questioned on my continued vote of AE when Voxx made his vote (by AE of all people).
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This is a subtle move, and one which I confess that I rather appreciate. I had to go back and check the votecount to be sure, but AE is NOT voting Void. So, why say that your vote is on Void when it isn't? Because you don't want to draw attention to yourself. You're just part of the herd, voting the same person that everyone is currently focused on, right? Right. My ass.
Really? Don't want to draw attention to myself? Your really saying this? So saying Void should still be lynched was trying not to draw attention?
Get with the program. What do they call it a "placeholder"? Thats me saying when the time comes to place the vote (after discussion is finished with) that's where I'm voting.
I'll conceed and look elsewhere. Looking at SS & SF
Until such time as you provide legit reasoning, I consider your vote OMGUS.
Also, I'll be away at tourney tomorrow, but I'll check up on my phone as often as I'm able. Don't expect much from me content-wise, though, as my phone is something of a pain in the ass to type on. Or, I'm just bad at it. Take your pick =)
[B]SS post #42[/B]: The ending of this post has me believing that SS is town. I initially read it and thought scum, but I see the townieness within the words.
[B]Azrael Post #44[/B]: “that the value of experienced players is that they are better able to go on the offensive against said experienced scum” This not settling with me well. It sounds like Azrael knows who the scum is. I figure that Azrael, being as experienced as he, is wouldn’t slip like so, but I am having difficulty getting past his choice of wording.
[B]Azrael Post #46[/B] and Post #47 comes across as rushed and trying to apply more pressure on me when SS had already stated that he found me to be town based on a meta read from C&B Mafia in Post #42. Not sure if Azrael not paying full attention the thread is indicative of anything, but it something to keep an eye on.
[B]AE Post #62[/B]: Would you mind explaining why my vote on Shark looked forced? Also, why is your vote leaning towards me at this point and not Voxx, who you commented on in Post #60, as showing stupidity and that you could not find the angel he was approaching from. Prior to mentioned your vote leaning towards me you had not made a single comment on my play. Who are you barning to jump on board the wagon that formed on me?
[B]Shark Post #66[/B]: It’s relevant because it looks as if you’re trying to overly confirm your read on Voxx. In Post #37 you contradicted yourself with your read on Voxx. In post #39 you responded to me clarifying that your read on Voxx was a Town read that “hinges on responses”. Then in response to SS in post #43 you say what Voxx did is “pretty town”, but then only mention that “Voxx probably town”. We can argue semantics back and forth, but for me “pretty town” is a stronger read than “probably town”.
[B]SS post #68[/B]: Why is moving the game along a town only action in this game? Same question goes to Shark.
[B]SS post #71[/B]: Would you please tell me what is convincing about Azrael’s case? With how much you have stated that I am town I find it hard to believe that you were convinced by Azrael with how much you defended my play earlier. Once again with the progression and how it is scummy vs. townie. No need to answer twice.
[B]AE post #78[/B]: I already commented on this post and I stick by what I said, Re: autopilot.
[B]Shark post #83[/B]: “Given that I am town in my view” Why is it only “your view” that you are town? Also, “I'm not CCing (Pedit: Azrael isn't CCing)” What did you mean with the Pedit?
[B]Shark post #102[/B]: “Aside from that, I also agree with Void's logic on AE, [/b]specifically the fact he is godfather[/b]” Slip here? “Is godfather”? My vote stays on Shark. If Shark flips scum, then AE is most likely to be scum.
[B]SS post #42[/B]: The ending of this post has me believing that SS is town. I initially read it and thought scum, but I see the townieness within the words.
*nods* I agree. Very stream-of-consciousness.
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[B]Azrael Post #44[/B]: “that the value of experienced players is that they are better able to go on the offensive against said experienced scum” This not settling with me well. It sounds like Azrael knows who the scum is. I figure that Azrael, being as experienced as he, is wouldn’t slip like so, but I am having difficulty getting past his choice of wording.
Hmm? I'm just talking in hypotheticals here.
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[B]Azrael Post #46[/B] and Post #47 comes across as rushed and trying to apply more pressure on me when SS had already stated that he found me to be town based on a meta read from C&B Mafia in Post #42. Not sure if Azrael not paying full attention the thread is indicative of anything, but it something to keep an eye on.
Oh, I was aware of SS's views, but I was curious what his interpretation of that specific post would be, if he gave it a second glance. I'd made my own views on it fairly clear at least in vague, general terms, but before moving on to specifics I wanted to gauge SS's take. As one of the more analytical-minded folks in this game and a fairly new quantity, he's been one of the people I've been most interested in sizing up.
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[B]Shark post #83[/B]: “Given that I am town in my view” Why is it only “your view” that you are town? Also, “I'm not CCing (Pedit: Azrael isn't CCing)” What did you mean with the Pedit?
Pedit = preview post edit.
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[B]Shark post #102[/B]: “Aside from that, I also agree with Void's logic on AE, [/b]specifically the fact he is godfather[/b]” Slip here? “Is godfather”? My vote stays on Shark. If Shark flips scum, then AE is most likely to be scum.
I think you're misinterpreting that pretty grossly, but have at it.
[B]Shark post #102[/B]: “Aside from that, I also agree with Void's logic on AE, [/b]specifically the fact he is godfather[/b]” Slip here? “Is godfather”? My vote stays on Shark. If Shark flips scum, then AE is most likely to be scum.
I think you're misinterpreting that pretty grossly, but have at it.
Once Shark replies I would like to hear why you believe this.
@#83: I previewed. Didn't change much and probably didnt need to add it but I didn't see az post until I finished.
@102: reread AE in his first 3 posts iirc. He states he wants to vig the godfather and he's basically goading me on with the "keep preaching". I don't like how he requoted the earlier vote and "that's a safe place to start" comment. It just feels strange to me and I don't see how it's a slip.
Now rereading what you actually wrote (and phone posting so forget erasing), I was shortcutting summarizing your argument so I can add my points. Basically semantics. I don't know if he is godfather or not but he acts like it.
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You don't have much choice at this time. Deadlines tomorrow night, doubt the activity will be there to discuss other options. So if you don't want a no lynch I'd say hammer by mid morning early afternoon
I don't think there's a whole lot more to discuss, realistically.
Once your alignment is confirmed one way or the other, tomorrow should be much more productive. I know who I want to pressure depending on how you flip, but I'm not sure if that's worthwhile discussion - it just helps the mafia optimize the night kill.
Alright. Idk bout you but I dot like TCM's reaction to the end of AE's lynch. Any other thoughts and should we have governor claim?
Hmm.
I actually wouldn't mind having the Governor claim, just so we have a confirmed townie. That narrows the PoE significantly, since we will have 1 confirmed, and the two remaining VTs will know who they are. For the VTs, it becomes a 66/33 shot. (5 people alive, one of whom is themselves, which means 4 suspects. +confirmed makes 3 unknowns, 2 of whom are scum).
Other than the Governor, nobody's claim matters, since everyone else is assumed VT. I will note that I am -not- the Governor, as I would claim in this instance.
TCM's reaction to AE does seem a little strange, but I'm not giving it any points at this juncture, one way or the other.
I'll be looking into Voxx first, hopefully while TCM provides content.
Alright. Idk bout you but I dot like TCM's reaction to the end of AE's lynch. Any other thoughts and should we have governor claim?
What don't you like about it? You seem to be appear to be fishing for someone to call me out, while not being sure what you are calling out.
For the record, there was an old game between Gigas1 and AE for a lynch, with an impeding deadline coming. AE was the chosen target and he ended up being town, with me trying to get a last minute switch to Gigas (which is why I said this was the second time this happened).
As far as the Governor claim is concerned, I will wait until everyone else chimes in, but I am all for it. His power is useless right now, and will help us narrow it down to a 50-50, even if counterclaimed.
Alright. Idk bout you but I dot like TCM's reaction to the end of AE's lynch. Any other thoughts and should we have governor claim?
Hmm.
I actually wouldn't mind having the Governor claim, just so we have a confirmed townie. That narrows the PoE significantly, since we will have 1 confirmed, and the two remaining VTs will know who they are. For the VTs, it becomes a 66/33 shot. (5 people alive, one of whom is themselves, which means 4 suspects. +confirmed makes 3 unknowns, 2 of whom are scum).
Other than the Governor, nobody's claim matters, since everyone else is assumed VT. I will note that I am -not- the Governor, as I would claim in this instance.
TCM's reaction to AE does seem a little strange, but I'm not giving it any points at this juncture, one way or the other.
I'll be looking into Voxx first, hopefully while TCM provides content.
I actually don't like the extra part of your assumption. While that does work for the individual townies, it really doesn't help in the grand scheme of things. I know my role name, but no one else does, and while I can make an educated guess, it still hurts.
If we get a governor claim, I might have an idea that has to do with a group claim.
Bear in mind, we have eight days before deadline today. Let's try and get as much work done quickly as possible so we're not facing yet another deadline crunch.
TCM, at what point did you become so convinced that AE was town, and why?
Bear in mind, we have eight days before deadline today. Let's try and get as much work done quickly as possible so we're not facing yet another deadline crunch.
TCM, at what point did you become so convinced that AE was town, and why?
I was always convinced he was town, hence why I was voting SF at the end, instead of hammering AE. Let's be honest here: the entire wagon on AE started because a couple players felt "he was not pushing the game forward, ergo scum", followed with his overreaction to the pressure. The wagon was relatively weak, as I felt both Void AND Sf were much more convincing target for poor play, and scum pushing a wagon respectively.
I have played quite a bit with AE, and often, he is his most aggressive when he is town (Final Fantasy and Hectea off of the top of my head).
Why did you decide him over SF was the right call? The VC (when I checked it at work) was 3-3 for SF and AE.
Bear in mind, we have eight days before deadline today. Let's try and get as much work done quickly as possible so we're not facing yet another deadline crunch.
TCM, at what point did you become so convinced that AE was town, and why?
I was always convinced he was town, hence why I was voting SF at the end, instead of hammering AE. Let's be honest here: the entire wagon on AE started because a couple players felt "he was not pushing the game forward, ergo scum", followed with his overreaction to the pressure. The wagon was relatively weak, as I felt both Void AND Sf were much more convincing target for poor play, and scum pushing a wagon respectively.
I have played quite a bit with AE, and often, he is his most aggressive when he is town (Final Fantasy and Hectea off of the top of my head).
Why did you decide him over SF was the right call? The VC (when I checked it at work) was 3-3 for SF and AE.
I've been feeling fairly favorable about Shark since around my post 43, and 104 after that. His responses under questioning have seemed pretty natural and uncontrived. Archmage has always had that streak of getting run up whatever his alignment, so I wasn't anywhere near as enthusiastic as I was about the Void case, but he had that weirdly argumentative/emotional thing going on which I hadn't seen from him before that seemed to make him a better shot than Shark. Alas, once again it was just Archmage throwing off oddball tells.
Bear in mind, we have eight days before deadline today. Let's try and get as much work done quickly as possible so we're not facing yet another deadline crunch.
TCM, at what point did you become so convinced that AE was town, and why?
I was always convinced he was town, hence why I was voting SF at the end, instead of hammering AE. Let's be honest here: the entire wagon on AE started because a couple players felt "he was not pushing the game forward, ergo scum", followed with his overreaction to the pressure. The wagon was relatively weak, as I felt both Void AND Sf were much more convincing target for poor play, and scum pushing a wagon respectively.
I have played quite a bit with AE, and often, he is his most aggressive when he is town (Final Fantasy and Hectea off of the top of my head).
Why did you decide him over SF was the right call? The VC (when I checked it at work) was 3-3 for SF and AE.
You post shortly before deadline with enough time to at least make a pitch on who is a better lynch, but yet you really dont do so, and in minutes following deadline, you go off and say "o darn, I should have done more". That sounds scummy to me.
Also Voxx is the last person to chime in.
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Void.
Shark never voted me.
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@Void: If Voxx had suddenly replaced out with no reason and no responses to those statements, I'd lean Voxx town. That is what the 2nd sentence meant. Overall I was not sure until response, but he move at first looked fairly town. His response cemented it from my view.
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Why still vote me if you are more sure AE is scum?
Aside from that, I also agree with Void's logic on AE, specifically the fact he is godfather. If you all remember, AE said that we should vig the Godfather first, and the way he seemed to provoke a reaction out of me during RVS also struck a chord.
Vote Archmage Eternal
—Lazav
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Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Although...hmm. Void being the cop kind of trashes my initial read on Vox, though. Yeah, I need to regroup and reread.
*think think*
I don't see myself getting behind a Shark wagon at this point though. He's been reading pretty naturally. Silver *could* be a very skilled scum, but nothing he's posted has given me any cause for concern. TCM is a null read. So's Vox, for now. Archmage has been the most emotionally volatile, and he did seem to smell blood in the water with the cop claim.
So, Archmage, TCM, and Vox are on the radar. Silver behind them. And we still have a 2nd power role unclaimed. Running out of time, though.
Consider my vote on Archmage.
I need to learn not to post on minimal sleep.
You're right, Voxx. My bad Shark.
No problem. It happens.
Also another point on me not unvoting Void, I don't feel like throwing my vote around in this game. I vote a player I think is scum and I'll stick with it until the situation arises that someone else is clearly a better option. Note the fact I have also been questioned on my continued vote of AE when Voxx made his vote (by AE of all people).
—Lazav
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Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Really? Don't want to draw attention to myself? Your really saying this? So saying Void should still be lynched was trying not to draw attention?
Get with the program. What do they call it a "placeholder"? Thats me saying when the time comes to place the vote (after discussion is finished with) that's where I'm voting.
I'll conceed and look elsewhere. Looking at SS & SF
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Archmage, you need to claim.
—Lazav
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Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
I'm vanilla which is why I posted this at the start.
Better me than a power. Have at it.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Until such time as you provide legit reasoning, I consider your vote OMGUS.
Also, I'll be away at tourney tomorrow, but I'll check up on my phone as often as I'm able. Don't expect much from me content-wise, though, as my phone is something of a pain in the ass to type on. Or, I'm just bad at it. Take your pick =)
[B]Azrael Post #44[/B]: “that the value of experienced players is that they are better able to go on the offensive against said experienced scum” This not settling with me well. It sounds like Azrael knows who the scum is. I figure that Azrael, being as experienced as he, is wouldn’t slip like so, but I am having difficulty getting past his choice of wording.
[B]Azrael Post #46[/B] and Post #47 comes across as rushed and trying to apply more pressure on me when SS had already stated that he found me to be town based on a meta read from C&B Mafia in Post #42. Not sure if Azrael not paying full attention the thread is indicative of anything, but it something to keep an eye on.
[B]AE Post #62[/B]: Would you mind explaining why my vote on Shark looked forced? Also, why is your vote leaning towards me at this point and not Voxx, who you commented on in Post #60, as showing stupidity and that you could not find the angel he was approaching from. Prior to mentioned your vote leaning towards me you had not made a single comment on my play. Who are you barning to jump on board the wagon that formed on me?
[B]Shark Post #66[/B]: It’s relevant because it looks as if you’re trying to overly confirm your read on Voxx. In Post #37 you contradicted yourself with your read on Voxx. In post #39 you responded to me clarifying that your read on Voxx was a Town read that “hinges on responses”. Then in response to SS in post #43 you say what Voxx did is “pretty town”, but then only mention that “Voxx probably town”. We can argue semantics back and forth, but for me “pretty town” is a stronger read than “probably town”.
[B]SS post #68[/B]: Why is moving the game along a town only action in this game? Same question goes to Shark.
[B]SS post #71[/B]: Would you please tell me what is convincing about Azrael’s case? With how much you have stated that I am town I find it hard to believe that you were convinced by Azrael with how much you defended my play earlier. Once again with the progression and how it is scummy vs. townie. No need to answer twice.
[B]AE post #78[/B]: I already commented on this post and I stick by what I said, Re: autopilot.
[B]Shark post #83[/B]: “Given that I am town in my view” Why is it only “your view” that you are town? Also, “I'm not CCing (Pedit: Azrael isn't CCing)” What did you mean with the Pedit?
[B]Shark post #102[/B]: “Aside from that, I also agree with Void's logic on AE, [/b]specifically the fact he is godfather[/b]” Slip here? “Is godfather”? My vote stays on Shark. If Shark flips scum, then AE is most likely to be scum.
*nods* I agree. Very stream-of-consciousness.
Hmm? I'm just talking in hypotheticals here.
Oh, I was aware of SS's views, but I was curious what his interpretation of that specific post would be, if he gave it a second glance. I'd made my own views on it fairly clear at least in vague, general terms, but before moving on to specifics I wanted to gauge SS's take. As one of the more analytical-minded folks in this game and a fairly new quantity, he's been one of the people I've been most interested in sizing up.
Pedit = preview post edit.
I think you're misinterpreting that pretty grossly, but have at it.
Once Shark replies I would like to hear why you believe this.
@102: reread AE in his first 3 posts iirc. He states he wants to vig the godfather and he's basically goading me on with the "keep preaching". I don't like how he requoted the earlier vote and "that's a safe place to start" comment. It just feels strange to me and I don't see how it's a slip.
Now rereading what you actually wrote (and phone posting so forget erasing), I was shortcutting summarizing your argument so I can add my points. Basically semantics. I don't know if he is godfather or not but he acts like it.
—Lazav
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Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Archmage Eternal (3): Voxxicus, SilverSihhe, SharkFinnigan
SharkFinnigan (2): The Cold Monarch, Void
Void (1): Azrael
SilverSihhe (1): Archmage Eternal
Not Voting (0): [Nobody]
With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
You have until February 3rd @ 10 PM EST to lynch, which is in 36 hours.
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Unless you convince the majority to lynch me, then it's AE/governor's decision.
I don't see SS as an option (odd behavior to start a wagon on someone else with <72 hrs)
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
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Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Once your alignment is confirmed one way or the other, tomorrow should be much more productive. I know who I want to pressure depending on how you flip, but I'm not sure if that's worthwhile discussion - it just helps the mafia optimize the night kill.
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
(unchanged since last votecount)
Archmage Eternal (3): Voxxicus, SilverSihhe, SharkFinnigan
SharkFinnigan (2): The Cold Monarch, Void
Void (1): Azrael
SilverSihhe (1): Archmage Eternal
Not Voting (0): [Nobody]
With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
You have until February 3rd @ 10 PM EST to lynch, which is in 8.25 hours.
unvote
vote shark
They hate us cause they ain't us.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
TCM: Who do you plan to vote for? If it's Shark, then I will leave my vote where it is. If it's AE then I will hammer after your response.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
They hate us cause they ain't us.
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Did the site cut out for anyone else?
vote Silver
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I was also working a shift, with my last post being typed from my phone...
Damn it AE, this is the second time this garbage happened to you. I am sorry I couldn't be more vocal.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Awaiting flip.
(But yeah, back to football and booze, just wanted to make sure I wasn't needed to switch vote to make a lynch happen)
People never learn.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Archmage Eternal (4): Voxxicus, SilverSihhe, SharkFinnigan, Azrael
SharkFinnigan (2): The Cold Monarch, Void
SilverSihhe (1): Archmage Eternal
Not Voting (0): [Nobody]
With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
Archmage Eternal has not been pardoned by the Governor. He has been lynched. He was a vanilla townie.
It is now Night 1. Get your night actions in to me within 48 hours.
Void was killed. He was the cop.
With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
Deadline is February 13th @ 10 AM EST.
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%
Hmm.
I actually wouldn't mind having the Governor claim, just so we have a confirmed townie. That narrows the PoE significantly, since we will have 1 confirmed, and the two remaining VTs will know who they are. For the VTs, it becomes a 66/33 shot. (5 people alive, one of whom is themselves, which means 4 suspects. +confirmed makes 3 unknowns, 2 of whom are scum).
Other than the Governor, nobody's claim matters, since everyone else is assumed VT. I will note that I am -not- the Governor, as I would claim in this instance.
TCM's reaction to AE does seem a little strange, but I'm not giving it any points at this juncture, one way or the other.
I'll be looking into Voxx first, hopefully while TCM provides content.
What don't you like about it? You seem to be appear to be fishing for someone to call me out, while not being sure what you are calling out.
For the record, there was an old game between Gigas1 and AE for a lynch, with an impeding deadline coming. AE was the chosen target and he ended up being town, with me trying to get a last minute switch to Gigas (which is why I said this was the second time this happened).
As far as the Governor claim is concerned, I will wait until everyone else chimes in, but I am all for it. His power is useless right now, and will help us narrow it down to a 50-50, even if counterclaimed.
I actually don't like the extra part of your assumption. While that does work for the individual townies, it really doesn't help in the grand scheme of things. I know my role name, but no one else does, and while I can make an educated guess, it still hurts.
If we get a governor claim, I might have an idea that has to do with a group claim.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
TCM, at what point did you become so convinced that AE was town, and why?
I was always convinced he was town, hence why I was voting SF at the end, instead of hammering AE. Let's be honest here: the entire wagon on AE started because a couple players felt "he was not pushing the game forward, ergo scum", followed with his overreaction to the pressure. The wagon was relatively weak, as I felt both Void AND Sf were much more convincing target for poor play, and scum pushing a wagon respectively.
I have played quite a bit with AE, and often, he is his most aggressive when he is town (Final Fantasy and Hectea off of the top of my head).
Why did you decide him over SF was the right call? The VC (when I checked it at work) was 3-3 for SF and AE.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I've been feeling fairly favorable about Shark since around my post 43, and 104 after that. His responses under questioning have seemed pretty natural and uncontrived. Archmage has always had that streak of getting run up whatever his alignment, so I wasn't anywhere near as enthusiastic as I was about the Void case, but he had that weirdly argumentative/emotional thing going on which I hadn't seen from him before that seemed to make him a better shot than Shark. Alas, once again it was just Archmage throwing off oddball tells.
You post shortly before deadline with enough time to at least make a pitch on who is a better lynch, but yet you really dont do so, and in minutes following deadline, you go off and say "o darn, I should have done more". That sounds scummy to me.
Also Voxx is the last person to chime in.
—Lazav
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Mafia Stats
Summary:
Total Win %: 40%
Total Scum Win %: 60%
Total Town Win %: 20%
Total Neutral Win %: 0%