Of course, that's why I said "unlikely" and not "impossible." I just think it's a point against them being scum together. -Though, I have a weak town-read on Cy otherwise anyway.
No, I expect him to claim that it was a town gambit. He didn't even bother to say as much.
Well, I guess he has done the equivalent during his arguments, so I'll drop that subject -.-
Yeah, his post after Cy broke the trap effectively accomplished what you are asking for.
EWP: Yeah, anyone else attacking Tor before he claims remaining HP and we come to consensus on who should deliver the kill should expect to be next on the chopping block.
No, I expect him to claim that it was a town gambit. He didn't even bother to say as much.
Why? What purpose would it serve? Either way, it's totally asinine to be hung up on that. If he's scum, he's not going to say, "Yeah, you caught me, it was a scum gambit." If he's town, he's also not going to (non-sarcastically) say, "Yeah, you caught me, it was a scum gambit." So, what gives?
This seals the deal for me. If Tordeck flips a Leafeon scum, hooray. If he flips town, Seppel is almost instantly a scum for lying. Either way we get a scum, so pretty much a win-win situation.
Unvote DRey
Move 1: Tordeck
How does TownTordeck = ScumSeppel? (Alliteration!)
Yeah, anyone else attacking Tor before he claims remaining HP and we come to consensus on who should deliver the kill should expect to be next on the chopping block.
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As regards to the question of whether or not I want people to know that I did not pick my moves for battle... yes, I kind of do. I can be of use to the town, and I can do very little against them right now without good attacks. It's not like there are NK in this game, so we don't have to be as afraid as your average game where claiming something could immediately get you killed.
2. I did start out with an offensive move, but my other moves are much more useful for slowing someone and intelligence gathering. Hardly useful for Scum if they need to attack to kill people just like everyone else. This is assuming my next point is true.
He's just drooling information and asking questions left and right. Doesn't read at all like scum behavior.
-And also questioning this one. I had the exact opposite reaction to this.
If I'm understanding your explanation of Sword Dance correctly, that means Cy is not understanding it at all, which means he is unlikely to be scum with any Leafeons, including Tor.
This seals the deal for me. If Tordeck flips a Leafeon scum, hooray. If he flips town, Seppel is almost instantly a scum for lying. Either way we get a scum, so pretty much a win-win situation.
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Exactly. -Cy seems completely confused about the fact that Tor took two actions Today. So, he's either never seen a Leafeon's role before, or he's doing a great job of faking it.
My research was on Bulbapedia. And I don't like that you're fishing for my Eeveelution since we didn't agree to the claim.
How does TownTordeck = ScumSeppel? (Alliteration!)
I'm not fishing. I just doesn't make sense to get to know someone's skill without having psychic powers. Do you see a Glaceon doing it? -___-
Well, Seppel accused Tordeck of lying about Swords Dance and said he was a Leafeon himself.
What can happen:
Tor dies and flips scum, whatever pokemon. Profit.
Tor dies and flips town, leafeon. What would be Seppel's reason to attack him then?
Tor dies and flips town, not leafeon... stupid play from him for lying about his role.
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Exactly. -Cy seems completely confused about the fact that Tor took two actions Today. So, he's either never seen a Leafeon's role before, or he's doing a great job of faking it.
I don't see where Cy is confused about two actions. Maybe I missed it.
Well, Seppel accused Tordeck of lying about Swords Dance and said he was a Leafeon himself.
What can happen:
Tor dies and flips scum, whatever pokemon. Profit.
Tor dies and flips town, leafeon. What would be Seppel's reason to attack him then?
Tor dies and flips town, not leafeon... stupid play from him for lying about his role.
What. You're not understanding properly. I know what Sword Dance does because I have it as a move I can learn. And it doesn't make any sense for Tordeck to try to pretend he doesn't know what's going on when he's laying down a powerful attack onto DRey. I called him out on his shenanigans.
What. You're not understanding properly. I know what Sword Dance does because I have it as a move I can learn. And it doesn't make any sense for Tordeck to try to pretend he doesn't know what's going on when he's laying down a powerful attack onto DRey. I called him out on his shenanigans.
Aah I get it now. Well, my vote was on him anyway. I still agree on the point that he didn't had the need to bluff like that as a townie, even if he got his eye on DRey.
I will nevertheless pay more attention from now on.
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I'm going to need you to explain that better. Do you think he's waiting for a signal from his buddies or something? Or someone to attack first?
Closer to the second. I think he saw Cy's post as an opening and wanted permission to push in that direction, sort of testing the water. The post immediately after where he speculates that it might have been a trap is a little better though.
@Story: Are you leaning towards DRey's gambit as being town or scum motivated at this point? Why, and when did you decide that?
[font='Georgia']I know that Tordeck's move was a little jarring, but Bulbapedia says Swords Dance does no damage. I think Tordeck was trying to provoke a reaction, and got one out of a few people.
Cy seems to think Sword Dance was the move Tor used on DRey, not the hidden move Tor used earlier. It reads like he genuinely has no idea what is going on.
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I'm self-conscious no matter what my alignment. Not that I've played on here long enough that I expect any of you to know that.
Basically: If Tordeck is scum, his reason for ignoring me is simple. I look the worst of the people who attacked him. When he flips, he can cause me to be the next lynch by acting like he didn't want to draw attention to me.
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Well since I am going to flip town you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Well except for that whole self conscious thing that will probably come back to bite you in the ass.
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Iso: I'm usually fighting back these things because I'm aware they look bad and usually are a detriment to my team. It probably has to do with how busy I am this week and choosing to post when I'm more tired than I normally would rather than lurk.
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I was just posting general thoughts and reads on those who have posted. I didnt mention you for the same reason I didnt mention R_O. I didnt have a read to work with,
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Closer to the second. I think he saw Cy's post as an opening and wanted permission to push in that direction, sort of testing the water. The post immediately after where he speculates that it might have been a trap is a little better though.
Ok, I see what you're saying now. I just don't agree with it. As a single post, it's definitely questionable, but looking at the whole picture, it doesn't appear as malicious.
Cy seems to think Sword Dance was the move Tor used on DRey, not the hidden move Tor used earlier. It reads like he genuinely has no idea what is going on.
The day does not end until all Pokémon that can perform a move do perform a move or the deadline has past. A Pokémon can only perform one move each day and night unless otherwise noted. Moves during the day should be formatted like this:
[Move #]: [Target] or[Move: No Action]
If you are targeting yourself or the move you are performing has no target you may put either “Self” or “Your Name”. Note that damage dealing or negative status abilities cannot be self-targeted.
Instead of voting to lynch, a player “faints”, i.e. gets lynched, when they have no more HP.
Storyteller please do not make me question my pristine read of you.
How is your read of storyteller pristine? KCC already noted this, but why wouldn't you actively question early reads if there's new information? This almost seems a little like coaching.
I have no pride, I'm town I don't care about anything, deal with it. ANd he's I don't lie as town. Everything I say is serious (excluding RVS gambits of course).
At this point, I do think you are town, but this is still WIFOM.
Except...he also attacked DRey. Did you miss that part?
I didn't miss it, but I was apparently very sloppy in my reread, as I thought his Move 1 was what caused the wind to dance. I missed the part where he accidentally outed his Eeveelution. That's where my confusion came from.
If only. I am similarly skeptical of the "gambit" as Tordeck is, but am not going to go so far as to attack DRey for it. Besides, I "don't have permission" to do so.
What sort of reaction do you think he was trying to provoke?
Due to my lack of understanding of what was going on (I thought Swords Dance was his Move 1), I thought he was trying to get others to react while having not actually done any damage, but now I've reread more carefully (and everyone and their mother has pointed it out), I can see I was wrong.
I cannot. I believe that Tordeck should be experienced enough to know better than to do such a blatant attack as scum, but my belief that he is town was based on my extreme confusion regarding what he did.
This seals the deal for me. If Tordeck flips a Leafeon scum, hooray. If he flips town, Seppel is almost instantly a scum for lying. Either way we get a scum, so pretty much a win-win situation.
Someone obviously wasn't reading closely. We're not to attack Tordeck until he claims!
Well, too late now. Hope he survives that attack.
Basically had the same reaction storyteller did. Kosakosa completely ignored the consensus that we should wait to give Tordeck time to claim/explain himself. Also, how does Tordeck town make Seppel scum? Because they've both claimed Leafeon and we can't have 2 Leafeon townies (which is not true)?
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@Story: Are you leaning towards DRey's gambit as being town or scum motivated at this point? Why, and when did you decide that?
I believe I've already said it before, but that "trap" felt a little... idk. Too obvious.
I'm leaning towards a scum gambit, but I do seem to have a tendency to see conspiracy in even the most innocuous actions.
I mean, let's say that he IS scum. The trap fails, no scum dies, people will defend him for setting the trap, town points. If the trap, for some reason, succeeds, a scum dies, he will probably never be suspected again in a looooong time. And I'm willing to wager that there probably isn't an alignment discovery move in this set-up (mostly because I can't imagine what pokemon move could possibly have the property like that of the cop). IDK. I'm probably being a bit too paranoid.
I got my first pick
Though my first and second pick could very well have been reversed. Meh.
@Seppel
I'd like to express something of a suspicion regarding you.
I'm basing everything off of my own role, and I can't guarantee that yours are different from mine, but I find it weird that you have access to something like move 5.
From my own stats, I could not possibly get to that high a move count. And if your stats were aything like mine... then I find that having move 5 could only be possible *if you have an HM*.
Furthermore, Leafeon isn't at all big on utility, so I'd be willing to bet that they should not have more moves than I do.
Do you have an explanation for this?
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How is your read of storyteller pristine? KCC already noted this, but why wouldn't you actively question early reads if there's new information? This almost seems a little like coaching.
If only. I am similarly skeptical of the "gambit" as Tordeck is, but am not going to go so far as to attack DRey for it. Besides, I "don't have permission" to do so.
Looking back, I'm contradicting myself. A lot.
I'm suspicious of Tordeck for jumping on DRey and yet I'm suspicious of DRey for the "gambit" :/
Eh. Maybe I'll have a more concrete idea once Tordeck flips.
@Iso, as far as I can see, Tordeck has used Swords Dance and (he claims) Leaf Blade (which was move 1) for a total of 2 moves. Where did you get 6 from?
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We're not to attack Tordeck until he claims!
Well, too late now. Hope he survives that attack.
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Town Doctor, NK N1
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Replaced out D1
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Scum Victory
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Scum Victory
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Town Necromancer, NK N1
Town Victory
Well, it looks like he survived.
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Scum Victory
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Town Umbreon, Modkilled D1
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Well, it's all good anyway.
Of course, that's why I said "unlikely" and not "impossible." I just think it's a point against them being scum together. -Though, I have a weak town-read on Cy otherwise anyway.
I just want to make sure we're on the same page regarding that.
Yeah, his post after Cy broke the trap effectively accomplished what you are asking for.
EWP: Yeah, anyone else attacking Tor before he claims remaining HP and we come to consensus on who should deliver the kill should expect to be next on the chopping block.
Why? What purpose would it serve? Either way, it's totally asinine to be hung up on that. If he's scum, he's not going to say, "Yeah, you caught me, it was a scum gambit." If he's town, he's also not going to (non-sarcastically) say, "Yeah, you caught me, it was a scum gambit." So, what gives?
My research was on Bulbapedia. And I don't like that you're fishing for my Eeveelution since we didn't agree to the claim.
How does TownTordeck = ScumSeppel? (Alliteration!)
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He's just drooling information and asking questions left and right. Doesn't read at all like scum behavior.
But... Tordeck also attacked.
More or less. And if not, DRey or D_V are happy to fill in for him.
You're on notice.
Double notice.
Is that 4 attacks so far?
Chronicling this because it'll be a pain to do later.
DAY 1 MOVES
Tordeck: Power Self (Move X: Razor Wind)
Tordeck: Attack DRey (Move 1: Potentially a few things)
Seppel: Attack Tordeck (Move 5: ???)
Iso: Attack Tordeck (Move 1: ???)
KoolKoal: Attack Tordeck (Move 1: ???)
Kosakosa: Attack Tordeck (Move 1: ???)
UNMOVED
Dancing Mad
red_0mega
KittyCupCake
Storyteller
greymon90210
Cythare
DRey
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I'm not at all convinced by any of those. The third one is even a strong point against him.
Exactly. -Cy seems completely confused about the fact that Tor took two actions Today. So, he's either never seen a Leafeon's role before, or he's doing a great job of faking it.
I'm not fishing. I just doesn't make sense to get to know someone's skill without having psychic powers. Do you see a Glaceon doing it? -___-
Well, Seppel accused Tordeck of lying about Swords Dance and said he was a Leafeon himself.
What can happen:
Tor dies and flips scum, whatever pokemon. Profit.
Tor dies and flips town, leafeon. What would be Seppel's reason to attack him then?
Tor dies and flips town, not leafeon... stupid play from him for lying about his role.
It doesn't make sense to attempt to determine what "the wind is dancing" means and which Pokemon would be most likely to have an attack like that?
Where?
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I'm going to need you to explain that better. Do you think he's waiting for a signal from his buddies or something? Or someone to attack first?
I don't see where Cy is confused about two actions. Maybe I missed it.
What. You're not understanding properly. I know what Sword Dance does because I have it as a move I can learn. And it doesn't make any sense for Tordeck to try to pretend he doesn't know what's going on when he's laying down a powerful attack onto DRey. I called him out on his shenanigans.
I have 1HP left.
Cy is scum
DRey is town (sry bro).
KCC is scum
Seppel and Iso are well Seppel and Iso.
GG everyone. Was planing on leaving Sally after I was done with my games anyway and this just help speeds things up.
Peace
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Aah I get it now. Well, my vote was on him anyway. I still agree on the point that he didn't had the need to bluff like that as a townie, even if he got his eye on DRey.
I will nevertheless pay more attention from now on.
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Closer to the second. I think he saw Cy's post as an opening and wanted permission to push in that direction, sort of testing the water. The post immediately after where he speculates that it might have been a trap is a little better though.
@Story: Are you leaning towards DRey's gambit as being town or scum motivated at this point? Why, and when did you decide that?
Here:
Cy seems to think Sword Dance was the move Tor used on DRey, not the hidden move Tor used earlier. It reads like he genuinely has no idea what is going on.
So, just one more for a lynch then. My vote is still on DRey doing it, if he is willing.
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Basically: If Tordeck is scum, his reason for ignoring me is simple. I look the worst of the people who attacked him. When he flips, he can cause me to be the next lynch by acting like he didn't want to draw attention to me.
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I was just posting general thoughts and reads on those who have posted. I didnt mention you for the same reason I didnt mention R_O. I didnt have a read to work with,
But now. Yeah youre scum
The Family
Sounds like a plan.
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storyteller: Unsure; could go either way.
Cythare: Agree that actively defending Tordeck does not look good. If Tordeck flips scum, would like him to be next.
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@Guardman: Is there any "Take no move" option? Or do people have to make a move?
If we can force people to take no move, we can be at an even further advantage.
Ok, I see what you're saying now. I just don't agree with it. As a single post, it's definitely questionable, but looking at the whole picture, it doesn't appear as malicious.
Huh.
@Cythare: What's your take on this?
See below.
How is your read of storyteller pristine? KCC already noted this, but why wouldn't you actively question early reads if there's new information? This almost seems a little like coaching.
At this point, I do think you are town, but this is still WIFOM.
I didn't miss it, but I was apparently very sloppy in my reread, as I thought his Move 1 was what caused the wind to dance. I missed the part where he accidentally outed his Eeveelution. That's where my confusion came from.
If only. I am similarly skeptical of the "gambit" as Tordeck is, but am not going to go so far as to attack DRey for it. Besides, I "don't have permission" to do so.
Due to my lack of understanding of what was going on (I thought Swords Dance was his Move 1), I thought he was trying to get others to react while having not actually done any damage, but now I've reread more carefully (and everyone and their mother has pointed it out), I can see I was wrong.
I cannot. I believe that Tordeck should be experienced enough to know better than to do such a blatant attack as scum, but my belief that he is town was based on my extreme confusion regarding what he did.
Basically had the same reaction storyteller did. Kosakosa completely ignored the consensus that we should wait to give Tordeck time to claim/explain himself. Also, how does Tordeck town make Seppel scum? Because they've both claimed Leafeon and we can't have 2 Leafeon townies (which is not true)?
This. Unless you're just grumpy because you got your last pick Eeveelution.
I addressed this above. I did think that Tordeck's Move 1 was the Swords Dance.
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You really aren't paying attention at all, are you?
As a matter of fact, I got my second pick.
But that tells me interesting things about my first pick, so.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I believe I've already said it before, but that "trap" felt a little... idk. Too obvious.
I'm leaning towards a scum gambit, but I do seem to have a tendency to see conspiracy in even the most innocuous actions.
I mean, let's say that he IS scum. The trap fails, no scum dies, people will defend him for setting the trap, town points. If the trap, for some reason, succeeds, a scum dies, he will probably never be suspected again in a looooong time. And I'm willing to wager that there probably isn't an alignment discovery move in this set-up (mostly because I can't imagine what pokemon move could possibly have the property like that of the cop). IDK. I'm probably being a bit too paranoid.
Basic 82: Hayate the Combat Butler Mafia
Town Doctor, NK N1
Mini: Drury Lane Mafia
Replaced out D1
Mafia "Stuffer"
Basic 80: Sesame Street Mafia
Town Mason, NK N1
Scum Victory
Basic 68: Mr. Potato Head Mafia
Replacing Marblez D2
Town Vanilla, Lynched Last Day (D6)
Scum Victory
Mini: Eeveelution Mafia
Town Umbreon, Modkilled D1
Scum Victory
Mini: Deitriptychos Mafia
Town Necromancer, NK N1
Town Victory
Though my first and second pick could very well have been reversed. Meh.
@Seppel
I'd like to express something of a suspicion regarding you.
I'm basing everything off of my own role, and I can't guarantee that yours are different from mine, but I find it weird that you have access to something like move 5.
From my own stats, I could not possibly get to that high a move count. And if your stats were aything like mine... then I find that having move 5 could only be possible *if you have an HM*.
Furthermore, Leafeon isn't at all big on utility, so I'd be willing to bet that they should not have more moves than I do.
Do you have an explanation for this?
Basic 82: Hayate the Combat Butler Mafia
Town Doctor, NK N1
Mini: Drury Lane Mafia
Replaced out D1
Mafia "Stuffer"
Basic 80: Sesame Street Mafia
Town Mason, NK N1
Scum Victory
Basic 68: Mr. Potato Head Mafia
Replacing Marblez D2
Town Vanilla, Lynched Last Day (D6)
Scum Victory
Mini: Eeveelution Mafia
Town Umbreon, Modkilled D1
Scum Victory
Mini: Deitriptychos Mafia
Town Necromancer, NK N1
Town Victory
Basic 82: Hayate the Combat Butler Mafia
Town Doctor, NK N1
Mini: Drury Lane Mafia
Replaced out D1
Mafia "Stuffer"
Basic 80: Sesame Street Mafia
Town Mason, NK N1
Scum Victory
Basic 68: Mr. Potato Head Mafia
Replacing Marblez D2
Town Vanilla, Lynched Last Day (D6)
Scum Victory
Mini: Eeveelution Mafia
Town Umbreon, Modkilled D1
Scum Victory
Mini: Deitriptychos Mafia
Town Necromancer, NK N1
Town Victory
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Basic 82: Hayate the Combat Butler Mafia
Town Doctor, NK N1
Mini: Drury Lane Mafia
Replaced out D1
Mafia "Stuffer"
Basic 80: Sesame Street Mafia
Town Mason, NK N1
Scum Victory
Basic 68: Mr. Potato Head Mafia
Replacing Marblez D2
Town Vanilla, Lynched Last Day (D6)
Scum Victory
Mini: Eeveelution Mafia
Town Umbreon, Modkilled D1
Scum Victory
Mini: Deitriptychos Mafia
Town Necromancer, NK N1
Town Victory
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Ok so we can force people to take no action under penalty of fluffy attacks.
I already answered this when KCC asked it, bro.
Also, dat sugarcoating.
If only. I am similarly skeptical of the "gambit" as Tordeck is, but am not going to go so far as to attack DRey for it. Besides, I "don't have permission" to do so.
Well aren't you miss prissy pants.
This. Unless you're just grumpy because you got your last pick Eeveelution.
Why did you say this?
I addressed this above. I did think that Tordeck's Move 1 was the Swords Dance.
Okay but IGMEOY.
Yes I do.
I'm suspicious of Tordeck for jumping on DRey and yet I'm suspicious of DRey for the "gambit" :/
Eh. Maybe I'll have a more concrete idea once Tordeck flips.
@Iso, as far as I can see, Tordeck has used Swords Dance and (he claims) Leaf Blade (which was move 1) for a total of 2 moves. Where did you get 6 from?
Basic 82: Hayate the Combat Butler Mafia
Town Doctor, NK N1
Mini: Drury Lane Mafia
Replaced out D1
Mafia "Stuffer"
Basic 80: Sesame Street Mafia
Town Mason, NK N1
Scum Victory
Basic 68: Mr. Potato Head Mafia
Replacing Marblez D2
Town Vanilla, Lynched Last Day (D6)
Scum Victory
Mini: Eeveelution Mafia
Town Umbreon, Modkilled D1
Scum Victory
Mini: Deitriptychos Mafia
Town Necromancer, NK N1
Town Victory
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Got it mixed up with my number of possible moves.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
similar reaction.
Might it be possible that Iso is Tordeck's scumbuddy and knew all of his abiliities (assumes Daychat), and that this was a scumslip?
...Eh. Having made a mistake seems more believable than that, but hey.
Possibility?
Basic 82: Hayate the Combat Butler Mafia
Town Doctor, NK N1
Mini: Drury Lane Mafia
Replaced out D1
Mafia "Stuffer"
Basic 80: Sesame Street Mafia
Town Mason, NK N1
Scum Victory
Basic 68: Mr. Potato Head Mafia
Replacing Marblez D2
Town Vanilla, Lynched Last Day (D6)
Scum Victory
Mini: Eeveelution Mafia
Town Umbreon, Modkilled D1
Scum Victory
Mini: Deitriptychos Mafia
Town Necromancer, NK N1
Town Victory