You were skeptical in your first post that you'd get very far, because you dug yourself a hole in your first post.
There is logic missing in there somewhere.
My head hurts.
I guess part of it was that I didn't really get that everyone was random voting, so I was trying to make a vote that would be less likely to get me ganged up on, and give a reason why I was doing it. The other part was that I was just being stupid.
The only people I really have interacted with before this game were Atog and Megiddo, because of Club Flamingo, so I flipped a coin and it came up Atog.
Sorry! I edited Dangit. Guess that means I am modkilled. I was trying not to double-post since I'm used to that being frowned upon, but oh well.
Did you "change" any of the content? Or just add additional content?
Both are big no-no's, but changing your content is by far a worse offense and deserving of Modkill (imo). If all you did was add to it to avoid double posting, I'd expect the Mod to give you a stern warning NOT to do it again, but you can probably avoid the modkill as this is your first game and a learning experience. Again, just my opinion.
Did you "change" any of the content? Or just add additional content?
Both are big no-no's, but changing your content is by far a worse offense and deserving of Modkill (imo). If all you did was add to it to avoid double posting, I'd expect the Mod to give you a stern warning NOT to do it again, but you can probably avoid the modkill as this is your first game and a learning experience. Again, just my opinion.
It was the addition of content, and did not change anything already there.
I can confirm that he only added content. Nothing was changed from the first time I read the post, he only added a response rather than double posting.
Well, that answers that question. Glad we didn't have a huge game derailment that soon into day one.
Cythare, do *you* think that Atog is tying himself to you? I'm not sure whether the backstabbing post was agreeing with Megiddo or simply an explanation of why he might be doing so.
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Well, that answers that question. Glad we didn't have a huge game derailment that soon into day one.
Cythare, do *you* think that Atog is tying himself to you? I'm not sure whether the backstabbing post was agreeing with Megiddo or simply an explanation of why he might be doing so.
I don't particularly think so. I figured he was just coming to my aid to support a new player. I just said that in response to Meg saying he was tying himself to me to be vaguely divisive.
I only know a few of these people, and I don't want to start backstabbing people I don't know well enough yet so I am sorry but I will vote Atogaholic. I can't trust that strange symbol of an avatar.
Interesting language tell:
You said "I don't want to start backstabbing people I don't know well enough yet so I am sorry but I will vote Atogaholic."
But you've interacted with Atog pregame by your own admission. You know him "well enough." That's why you voted for him, right? So why not say this:
"I don't want to start backstabbing people I don't know well enough yet so I will vote Atogaholic instead."
But wait. Why did you feel the need to qualify your vote, anyway, if you know Atog "well enough"? Atog wouldn't have cared. So why did you write "I don't want to start backstabbing people I don't know well enough yet" in the first place?
I guess part of it was that I didn't really get that everyone was random voting, so I was trying to make a vote that would be less likely to get me ganged up on, and give a reason why I was doing it. The other part was that I was just being stupid.
What do you think everyone was doing if they weren't random voting?
Why did you feel the need to vote at all in that case?
The only people I really have interacted with before this game were Atog and Megiddo, because of Club Flamingo, so I flipped a coin and it came up Atog.
Again: why vote at all if you were leaving it up to chance anyway?
I figured that people were voting randomly, but didn't realize that it initially entailed so much voting/unvoting to get things going. I figured the first round or two might just be random killing off until things started to level out.
I don't really have a good explanation for anything else beyond what I said, since I just figured I'd vote too since everyone else was voting. The language was just because I didn't put too much thought into my phrasing.
If we're going to quicklynch Cythare he might as well have been modkilled
We've gotten as much out of him as possible short of a claim. If someone else wants to push him to L-2, be my quest. I'm not doing anything until Atog actually posts instead of waiting for the dust to settle.
Albus and Deathjoey also need to start posting first.
There is the possibility that this is just a flustered townie who doesn't know how to respond under pressure. However, in that scenario, most of his credibility as town is gone and I'm not sure he's particularly beneficial for the town in either case.
We do still have two more people who need to weigh in though, and I would prefer not to lynch until they have made some statement or another about their thoughts on the game.
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There is the possibility that this is just a flustered townie who doesn't know how to respond under pressure. However, in that scenario, most of his credibility as town is gone and I'm not sure he's particularly beneficial for the town in either case.
We do still have two more people who need to weigh in though, and I would prefer not to lynch until they have made some statement or another about their thoughts on the game.
Agreed. That being said, I'm okay with him being the lynch for the day (at this juncture; we still have plenty of time for discussion) and so will put him to l-2.
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Agreed. That being said, I'm okay with him being the lynch for the day (at this juncture; we still have plenty of time for discussion) and so will put him to l-2.
Vote: Cythare
I'll second all of that except the vote. If I were to vote now it would put him to L-1 and there's no reason to do that this early in the day.
There is the possibility that this is just a flustered townie who doesn't know how to respond under pressure. However, in that scenario, most of his credibility as town is gone and I'm not sure he's particularly beneficial for the town in either case.
We do still have two more people who need to weigh in though, and I would prefer not to lynch until they have made some statement or another about their thoughts on the game.
That's funny. He's still useful as a doctor. He's still useful (although less so) as a vig. And he's even marginally useful as an information role if he can build back his credibility.
Cythare is in deer-in-the-headlights mode: he's incapable of giving a good defense for himself, so he still could be town. If we lynch Cythare and he flips town power, I couldn't live with myself. Could you?
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I hope to god you don't have itchy trigger fingers. Please don't vote in your first posts.
There's not really any evidence that there are town power roles right now, though it's certainly a possibility. For all I know, it's 10 townies vs. 2 scum with the scum having one power role.
Let's assume your position though - suppose there are town power roles, and suppose further that Cythare is one of them. What does the town stand to gain?
We're in a 9-3 game if we assume town power. If he's a vigilante, I'm a little worried if he turns out to be trigger happy and offs a townie night 1. That puts us to 6-3 right off the bat, which gives us only one mislynch before town dies.
If he's cop, this would not be much better - he's hardly credible at this point - at least, I wouldn't accept his claim or his results at face value at this point.
If he's a doc, there's a solid case to not lynch - I don't think scum wants to target him right now based solely on behavior patterns - he's deflected a ton of pressure off them (or the rest of them, if he's actually scum) and he can protect unfettered for at least a night or two.
This alone makes me not want to lynch him right now - Cop should check him instead. He's clear, he's just making some mistakes. He's cop-confirmed scum, his neck goes tomorrow. The downside to this is if he's actually the cop - he can't really be cop-cleared.
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I am very much legitimately wanting to get more information day one rather than just hammer on a person who seems very scummy. We have a goodly amount of information to suggest that Cythare is scum, but that doesn't make finding the rest of the scum any easier for us. At the very least, I'm not going to see someone offed while there are players yet to add to the conversation. I'd prefer to go into night one with as much information as I can.
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I should add to my previous explanation that I have never played a game with anyone here and I have no meta-information to suggest how quickly people will lynch. You've played multiple games and have this sort of information.
In any case, I'm going to leave my vote as it is, but I will point out that I've now got a FoS pointed at Megiddo. You do seem overly certain that his noob mistakes are also scum tells.
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Cythare is in deer-in-the-headlights mode: he's incapable of giving a good defense for himself, so he still could be town. If we lynch Cythare and he flips town power, I couldn't live with myself. Could you?
Absolutely! I have absolutely ZERO intention of committing suicide over some stupid internet game! In fact, I have a hard time believing you would either. Though if you WERE for some reason serious, I urge you to seek professional help, immediately!
Would it suck to lynch Town Power? Sure. But why do you think lynching Cythare is more likely to lead to lynching Town Power than lynching anyone else would? Do you have some reason to suspect he is Town Power? Or is this just fearmongering to try to reduce heat on your scumbuddy?
And if you reeeeeally feel the need, go ahead and accuse me of fishing. But I think questioning why you fear a Town Power lynch specifically if we lynch Cythare over anyone else is a legitimate question.
Would it suck to lynch Town Power? Sure. But why do you think lynching Cythare is more likely to lead to lynching Town Power than lynching anyone else would? Do you have some reason to suspect he is Town Power? Or is this just fearmongering to try to reduce heat on your scumbuddy?
And if you reeeeeally feel the need, go ahead and accuse me of fishing. But I think questioning why you fear a Town Power lynch specifically if we lynch Cythare over anyone else is a legitimate question.
The bolded is a misrepresentation.
Cythare hasn't claimed yet and shouldn't yet -- so regardless of his alignment, we have no idea what role he would claim. If he were to claim a town power role and not be CC'd, we wouldn't lynch him toDay. But if he were to claim town vanilla (or claim a town power role and be CC'd), we could still lynch him and feel less terrible about having lynched him if he flips town vanilla.
Cythare hasn't claimed yet (and shouldn't until, at least, Albus and Deathjoy join us). So we don't ignore the worst case scenario until he does.
You specifically brought up the possibility of Cythare being a Town Power role. Why? What is special about this lynch compared to every other D1 lynch? Why is there a need to specifically bring the fear of lynching a Town Power Role into this? What purpose did that serve?
Unless you have some specific reason to believe this is more likely to happen here than elsewhere... or you are trying to protect your scumbuddy, I don't see any reason why you would introduce fear of lynching a Town Power role into a lynch that has no other reason to specifically fear that any more than any other lynch does.
Cythare hasn't claimed yet and shouldn't yet -- so regardless of his alignment, we have no idea what role he would claim. If he were to claim a town power role and not be CC'd, we wouldn't lynch him toDay. But if he were to claim town vanilla (or claim a town power role and be CC'd), we could still lynch him and feel less terrible about having lynched him if he flips town vanilla.
Cythare hasn't claimed yet (and shouldn't until, at least, Albus and Deathjoy join us). So we don't ignore the worst case scenario until he does.
Why do you feel a need to point out the obvious as if it is some sort of revelation? Do you think we're all complete noobs with no clue how to play? Is there some reason you suspect we'd speed lynch someone for claiming a Town PR?
I don't understand the purpose of the quoted piece above. What do you think you are accomplishing with it?
Yeah. You're right. There are more possibilities than just the 2. Such as the possibility that you think we're all morons with no clue how to play if you don't tell us. But I was discounting that possibility before this latest post of yours because I didn't think it at all likely to be the case.
I presented it the way I did because the only two reasons I saw as "likely" were the two I presented. Now that you've given us the possibility you just think we're all scrubs, I suppose I'll have to include that option as well.
Apologies if you feel this post of mine is overly confrontational. But your latest response really rubs me wrong. It really does come off as though you think you know how to play while none of us do and you need to "teach" all of us. I found it rather demeaning towards the rest of us and my response reflects that.
Apologies if you feel this post of mine is overly confrontational. But your latest response really rubs me wrong. It really does come off as though you think you know how to play while none of us do and you need to "teach" all of us. I found it rather demeaning towards the rest of us and my response reflects that.
Quite the opposite: this is my first game. What you see as condescension is more ignorance and "thinking aloud" for my own benefit more than anyone else's.
So you called me on my bull**** -- apologies are all mine. If you still find anything scummy about it than we can continue; otherwise, let's drop it.
Before I start in on my analysis, I would like to know the following from everyone: How experienced are you at mafia? Beginner, average, or experienced.
I want to know who I'm working with and what kind of players they are.
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I've played around a half dozen games off-site, no fewer than 3 years ago. I've never played a game on MTGS before. Whether that counts as "beginner, average, or experienced", I will allow you to decide.
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Quite the opposite: this is my first game. What you see as condescension is more ignorance and "thinking aloud" for my own benefit more than anyone else's.
Ah. My bad too then. I'm by no means new to Mafia, but I am still fairly new to this site and not familiar with who is a regular and who isn't.
Your comments came across as informed and as though you were presenting them to us, rather than just musing out loud. I just assumed that you were an experienced player rather than double checking.
So you called me on my bull**** -- apologies are all mine. If you still find anything scummy about it than we can continue; otherwise, let's drop it.
I don't think your reasons are wrong. That wasn't the issue. My confusion was over why you were presenting them to us. A lot of it is fairly fundamental stuff that is learned pretty quickly. Stuff that an experienced player already knows, but that a new player might not yet.
I just misunderstood the purpose. I thought you were trying to teach us. I didn't realize you were posting it for your own benefit. It makes a lot more sense now.
Before I start in on my analysis, I would like to know the following from everyone: How experienced are you at mafia? Beginner, average, or experienced.
I want to know who I'm working with and what kind of players they are.
Nice of you to provide your own experience level for the rest of us as well... oh, wait.
This is my third game here. Both my previous games I am dead in, but as both games are still ongoing I cannot comment more than that about them.
I have extensive experience at Px2 on the wizards forums.
I would like to thank the last post I read (unless I make a response and my own is the last post), and then un-thank it later when I read the newest posts... thanking the last post at that time.
Basically, I want to use the thank you system to keep track of which post was the last post I read in the thread so I don't have to try to remember each time I come back. It would be nice if these forums told us how many new posts there were like the Wizards forums do, but since they don't, I'm trying to come up with a way to do it myself.
Will you have any problem with me thanking and un-thanking posts during the game provided the above stated reason is the ONLY reason I am doing so?
Before I start in on my analysis, I would like to know the following from everyone: How experienced are you at mafia? Beginner, average, or experienced.
I want to know who I'm working with and what kind of players they are.
My mafia stats are in my MTGS blog for your perusal.
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Can we have Megiddo removed from the forum forever please?
i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
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Because I figured maybe Atog was trying to hide behind my noobiness and I'm really bad at sarcasm.
I guess part of it was that I didn't really get that everyone was random voting, so I was trying to make a vote that would be less likely to get me ganged up on, and give a reason why I was doing it. The other part was that I was just being stupid.
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Atog hadn't even posted yet.
Did you edit that post?
The only people I really have interacted with before this game were Atog and Megiddo, because of Club Flamingo, so I flipped a coin and it came up Atog.
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Did you edit a post? I couldn't find the edited one.
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It was within 3 minutes; he just did it to add the Voxxicus response. I can confirm that he didn't change anything.
Did you "change" any of the content? Or just add additional content?
Both are big no-no's, but changing your content is by far a worse offense and deserving of Modkill (imo). If all you did was add to it to avoid double posting, I'd expect the Mod to give you a stern warning NOT to do it again, but you can probably avoid the modkill as this is your first game and a learning experience. Again, just my opinion.
I edited post #51, where I responded to Megiddo, and then added a response to Voxxicus.
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It was the addition of content, and did not change anything already there.
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Cythare, do *you* think that Atog is tying himself to you? I'm not sure whether the backstabbing post was agreeing with Megiddo or simply an explanation of why he might be doing so.
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I don't particularly think so. I figured he was just coming to my aid to support a new player. I just said that in response to Meg saying he was tying himself to me to be vaguely divisive.
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Interesting language tell:
You said "I don't want to start backstabbing people I don't know well enough yet so I am sorry but I will vote Atogaholic."
But you've interacted with Atog pregame by your own admission. You know him "well enough." That's why you voted for him, right? So why not say this:
"I don't want to start backstabbing people I don't know well enough yet so I will vote Atogaholic instead."
But wait. Why did you feel the need to qualify your vote, anyway, if you know Atog "well enough"? Atog wouldn't have cared. So why did you write "I don't want to start backstabbing people I don't know well enough yet" in the first place?
What do you think everyone was doing if they weren't random voting?
Why did you feel the need to vote at all in that case?
Again: why vote at all if you were leaving it up to chance anyway?
I don't really have a good explanation for anything else beyond what I said, since I just figured I'd vote too since everyone else was voting. The language was just because I didn't put too much thought into my phrasing.
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the two of them are a problem, but I was voting for the wrong one.
We've gotten as much out of him as possible short of a claim. If someone else wants to push him to L-2, be my quest. I'm not doing anything until Atog actually posts instead of waiting for the dust to settle.
Albus and Deathjoey also need to start posting first.
We do still have two more people who need to weigh in though, and I would prefer not to lynch until they have made some statement or another about their thoughts on the game.
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Agreed. That being said, I'm okay with him being the lynch for the day (at this juncture; we still have plenty of time for discussion) and so will put him to l-2.
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I'll second all of that except the vote. If I were to vote now it would put him to L-1 and there's no reason to do that this early in the day.
Cythare (5): Voxxicus, Drifting Skies, Tordeck, Megiddo, Shinen
Megiddo (1): Atogaholic
The Most Curious Thing (1): kill-joy
Not Voting (5): Ahlyis, Albus, Cythare, Deathjoey, The Most Curious Thing
With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
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That's funny. He's still useful as a doctor. He's still useful (although less so) as a vig. And he's even marginally useful as an information role if he can build back his credibility.
Cythare is in deer-in-the-headlights mode: he's incapable of giving a good defense for himself, so he still could be town. If we lynch Cythare and he flips town power, I couldn't live with myself. Could you?
@Albus & Deathjoey
I hope to god you don't have itchy trigger fingers. Please don't vote in your first posts.
@Cythare
Please don't claim.
Let's assume your position though - suppose there are town power roles, and suppose further that Cythare is one of them. What does the town stand to gain?
We're in a 9-3 game if we assume town power. If he's a vigilante, I'm a little worried if he turns out to be trigger happy and offs a townie night 1. That puts us to 6-3 right off the bat, which gives us only one mislynch before town dies.
If he's cop, this would not be much better - he's hardly credible at this point - at least, I wouldn't accept his claim or his results at face value at this point.
If he's a doc, there's a solid case to not lynch - I don't think scum wants to target him right now based solely on behavior patterns - he's deflected a ton of pressure off them (or the rest of them, if he's actually scum) and he can protect unfettered for at least a night or two.
This alone makes me not want to lynch him right now - Cop should check him instead. He's clear, he's just making some mistakes. He's cop-confirmed scum, his neck goes tomorrow. The downside to this is if he's actually the cop - he can't really be cop-cleared.
Unvote: Cythare
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Why do you assume the town does not have the self restraint to avoid lynching an unclaimed townie?
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Cythare was at L-2. Two people haven't posted in this thread yet.
That's why I didn't vote when he was at L-3 and why I don't understand why Shinen did.
In any case, I'm going to leave my vote as it is, but I will point out that I've now got a FoS pointed at Megiddo. You do seem overly certain that his noob mistakes are also scum tells.
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Ok, put words in my mouth, that's fine too
Absolutely! I have absolutely ZERO intention of committing suicide over some stupid internet game! In fact, I have a hard time believing you would either. Though if you WERE for some reason serious, I urge you to seek professional help, immediately!
Would it suck to lynch Town Power? Sure. But why do you think lynching Cythare is more likely to lead to lynching Town Power than lynching anyone else would? Do you have some reason to suspect he is Town Power? Or is this just fearmongering to try to reduce heat on your scumbuddy?
And if you reeeeeally feel the need, go ahead and accuse me of fishing. But I think questioning why you fear a Town Power lynch specifically if we lynch Cythare over anyone else is a legitimate question.
The bolded is a misrepresentation.
Cythare hasn't claimed yet and shouldn't yet -- so regardless of his alignment, we have no idea what role he would claim. If he were to claim a town power role and not be CC'd, we wouldn't lynch him toDay. But if he were to claim town vanilla (or claim a town power role and be CC'd), we could still lynch him and feel less terrible about having lynched him if he flips town vanilla.
Cythare hasn't claimed yet (and shouldn't until, at least, Albus and Deathjoy join us). So we don't ignore the worst case scenario until he does.
Also:
False dichotomies don't help your case.
No, it's really not.
You specifically brought up the possibility of Cythare being a Town Power role. Why? What is special about this lynch compared to every other D1 lynch? Why is there a need to specifically bring the fear of lynching a Town Power Role into this? What purpose did that serve?
Unless you have some specific reason to believe this is more likely to happen here than elsewhere... or you are trying to protect your scumbuddy, I don't see any reason why you would introduce fear of lynching a Town Power role into a lynch that has no other reason to specifically fear that any more than any other lynch does.
Why do you feel a need to point out the obvious as if it is some sort of revelation? Do you think we're all complete noobs with no clue how to play? Is there some reason you suspect we'd speed lynch someone for claiming a Town PR?
I don't understand the purpose of the quoted piece above. What do you think you are accomplishing with it?
Yeah. You're right. There are more possibilities than just the 2. Such as the possibility that you think we're all morons with no clue how to play if you don't tell us. But I was discounting that possibility before this latest post of yours because I didn't think it at all likely to be the case.
I presented it the way I did because the only two reasons I saw as "likely" were the two I presented. Now that you've given us the possibility you just think we're all scrubs, I suppose I'll have to include that option as well.
Apologies if you feel this post of mine is overly confrontational. But your latest response really rubs me wrong. It really does come off as though you think you know how to play while none of us do and you need to "teach" all of us. I found it rather demeaning towards the rest of us and my response reflects that.
Quite the opposite: this is my first game. What you see as condescension is more ignorance and "thinking aloud" for my own benefit more than anyone else's.
So you called me on my bull**** -- apologies are all mine. If you still find anything scummy about it than we can continue; otherwise, let's drop it.
I want to know who I'm working with and what kind of players they are.
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- UWR Delver
Ah. My bad too then. I'm by no means new to Mafia, but I am still fairly new to this site and not familiar with who is a regular and who isn't.
Your comments came across as informed and as though you were presenting them to us, rather than just musing out loud. I just assumed that you were an experienced player rather than double checking.
I don't think your reasons are wrong. That wasn't the issue. My confusion was over why you were presenting them to us. A lot of it is fairly fundamental stuff that is learned pretty quickly. Stuff that an experienced player already knows, but that a new player might not yet.
I just misunderstood the purpose. I thought you were trying to teach us. I didn't realize you were posting it for your own benefit. It makes a lot more sense now.
Perfectly fine with letting this go now.
Nice of you to provide your own experience level for the rest of us as well... oh, wait.
This is my third game here. Both my previous games I am dead in, but as both games are still ongoing I cannot comment more than that about them.
I have extensive experience at Px2 on the wizards forums.
Draft my cube! (630 cards)
I would like to thank the last post I read (unless I make a response and my own is the last post), and then un-thank it later when I read the newest posts... thanking the last post at that time.
Basically, I want to use the thank you system to keep track of which post was the last post I read in the thread so I don't have to try to remember each time I come back. It would be nice if these forums told us how many new posts there were like the Wizards forums do, but since they don't, I'm trying to come up with a way to do it myself.
Will you have any problem with me thanking and un-thanking posts during the game provided the above stated reason is the ONLY reason I am doing so?
First game, on or offsite.