This post really pings my scumdar. It's trying to accuse roleplaying (a neutral action as far as I'm concerned) of being scummy.
No. I'm saying that roleplaying helped me, as scum, completely dominate a 24 player game because I, as scum, was able to eat the whole game for breakfast. In that game, it was like claiming what you were not. Made killing/persecuting PRs very, very easy.
That being said, my scum buddies were posting with PRs and roleplaying to go with the flow. So yes, it is null. But it is something to pay attention to and be very careful with.
Then he's breadcrumbing for potential falseclaims.
Ok, now you're just fabricating crap. Breadcrumbing is when you mention something that you'll later confirm. How exactly did I do that? Also, you know from personal experience I do this post 1 in virtually every game where it makes sense. In this game, what difference does it make if we know what fictional character we all are? Flavor and role mechanics aren't going to mean squat in this game.
Then he tries to figure out what race everyone is. (To protect himself from falseclaiming incorrectly possibly?) Oh, then he drops a breadcrumb that will let him spread more wifom.
No. I'm exploring the flavor. Why are you overreacting to my thoughts so much?
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I feel like we should run him up to L-2 first so that he doesn't have a chance to see anyone else claim first.
I couldn't care less about what you all claim for the moment, as long as the major PRs play smart and don't out themselves.
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(Had to drop RP just to laugh my arse off...Edward...hahaha. I would have loved to see you RP that Art. You could swoop in and blind us with your sparklies like a 70's disco dancer)
(Had to drop RP just to laugh my arse off...Edward...hahaha. I would have loved to see you RP that Art. You could swoop in and blind us with your sparklies like a 70's disco dancer)
***BLINGGGGG!!*** :o:cool2:
Pretty much, and hence the pun/joke in my confirm post. If there's anyone I don't want to be identified with, this is pretty much it. There are sooooo many much cooler vamps. I sent Wuffles a list pre-game and he laughed at me. Basically told me he could neither confirm nor deny their presence in the game. Then he sticks me with this.
I bet his brother put him up to it....
Although the funny part is I likely live the closest to where those stories are set. The clan Cullen lives on the Olympic Peninsula of my state of Washington in the Northwestern U.S. (spelled out ad nausium for our foreign dignitaries -- PF and WuffleMod).
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Mostly, that post set off my gut feelings. I wanted to try and rationalize what I thought was causing that though instead of just claiming that Artifice's posting felt off. It's better for everyone (besides scum obviously) to keep thought processes out in the open. We'll see how this goes with Artifice.
There are a LOT of opportunistic votes going on so far. I feel like most people are going after easy and/or obvious targets so they can /barn the previous posters.
Reya Cookiebringer, Buka snuka, and jdisawesomesauce definitely need to post more. I feel like I don't have much of a read on any of those three.
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How does this even make sense? Iso is just the NPC death at the beginning of the game. Why hold a grudge for what basically translates as a piece of furniture?
It wasn't a criticism. It's actually funny to me that Foxlet is mourning Iso after he played a damn solid scum game against us. IIRC, it had frustrated Foxlet quite a bit towards the end. Now she's mourning him and I think it's a pretty funny shift from the last game.
I still don't feel like his plan is townie enough to make sense. That being said, I won't vote him for virtually the same reasons you have. He's too "out there" at the moment, and given time I think he'll hang himself as scum.
Well, I'm not voting him. I'm voting Foxlet. I think Pog's plan isn't the towniest thought out, but is rooted in townie intentions. Still, last time I checked the road to townieness wasn't paved with good intentions, so he's solidly neutral to me.
So wait. His roleplay isn't ok, but everyone else's is? Why? I think he's playing his character as a tragic, brooding figure. Not commenting in a scummy way.
First, are the Post Restrictions mandatory or not? Are people just roleplaying or are they mandatory, because it makes a big difference.
Second, it's not that his roleplay is any worse than other peoples, it's that he's mourning dead town, something that scum commonly do to blend in. It happens normally on later days from D2 onward as the scum kill townies. Scum will lament over a dead town, whether by simple comment or full blown acting scene, for the simple fact that it seems townie to mourn the dead. I suppose he could be roleplaying very heavily as a mournful person, but when I see someone fretting over the death of a townie, I think of a worst case scenario, that he's a fakey actor trying for townie points. IIRC, Foxlet did it too, to a much more minor degree. Not the biggest issue in the world, but I thought it was worth noting.
Can we ask you to post more? I hate that you're so hard to read because of your post frequency.
I'm assuming that your nath was referring to this part of the post, but what do you know of my post frequency? I actually post quite often, once a day usually, if not more. Fridays I rarely post because I'm at FNM. I was replaced out of Avatar because I was busy with a new promotion at work. Also, aside from that game, this is the first game we've played together, so how am I hard to read from it when you've got no history with me?
Fox scans her email, reading the response from the Gricky. She closes her eyes for a moment to gather her thoughts then starts typing her response.
To the one known as Gricky:
First, I hope you don't mind me calling you Gricky. It's a real time saver! I like to be efficient when I can. Now down to business. I will forward you a copy of the letter I sent to the one known as poggydude. In short, I found his actions were deplorable in regards to Dragon. As for his list, I too made a note of it, having been deceived by lists such as those before. I hesitate to mention it, but his antics rather remind me of the recently departed. I made no mention of it at the time because in regards to my name being on it, I have no concerns where my loyalties lie. I only mentioned it when I did because of Archmages puzzling response and yours after that. I wanted to see what all the "players" had to say, so to speak.
Some call me...Tim.
Jokes aside, why didn't you mention your reasoning in your vote? And be specific, what about Pog's conversation with Dragonheart did you find scummy?
Also, why attack me for keeping a note on the list when you did so yourself?
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Well its good to see youve improved your game since we last played together Gricky.
Foxlet has stated that its RP and that he/she may not keep it up. The others have yet to clarify if its RP or PR. (though if its PR they are lucky compared to the last one wuffy gave out)
Well I guess Reya is going on a murderous rampage, then
Just what I was thinking.
I googled Twilight before the game even started because I figured the main character would at least be included if not spitefully assigned to Reya. Apparently Edward can read minds and I don't know how much flavour tends to correlate with roles, but likely his fictional ability would translate to telling roles or alignment.
So which one of you likes to eat garlic, sunbathe, and swim?
Well its good to see youve improved your game since we last played together Gricky.
Foxlet has stated that its RP and that he/she may not keep it up. The others have yet to clarify if its RP or PR. (though if its PR they are lucky compared to the last one wuffy gave out)
First, thanks. I didn't really do much, just stopped playing for a long time and came back, so I dunno how/why anything changed lol.
As for the Rping, if it's RP it means very little regarding gamestate. If there are three people with Post Restrictions, then I was going to say that at least one is scum. If the RPing is by choice, then that doesn't apply, but the RPing players still bear close watching in case they scumslip. Sometimes a player can make big slips in a Roleplayed post and it's just totally lost on the town.
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"AE, Poggydude suggested that foxlet, and yourself were his accomplices in the murder of Iso, yet in your responce you say you wish you had been a killer so you could kill trickygimmick, but that out because he is your accomplice.
But no-one suggested that Gimmick was working with you but you, a slip of the tongue?"
Crap!! I'm caught. Son of a....
It has nothing to do with Poggy. Go look at the sign up thread for refrence. The posts betveen me and GT.
Note that Foxlet nor AE had anything direct to say about that list. It's a pretty eventful thing that a few people have commented on so far, so why isn't this a point of discussion with them?
I could care less when Poggy does dumb things. It happens all the time.
I googled Twilight before the game even started because I figured the main character would at least be included if not spitefully assigned to Reya. Apparently Edward can read minds and I don't know how much flavour tends to correlate with roles, but likely his fictional ability would translate to telling roles or alignment.
So which one of you likes to eat garlic, sunbathe, and swim?
I really dont like this post. It reeks of coaching, as if Art and Duca are on a scum team without nighttalk and Duca is trying to help Art with his false claim. Too me this is Noob scum trying to help a buddy and not realizing how big a mistake they have made.
unvote vote Duca
I go with the vote on Duca as it was a scummier slip.
(Ok...last out of RP for the moment since I have a quick second at work and it's not really business at hand and more shenanigans )
I made all the jokes about Edward/Twilight because the whole thought of vampires that sparkle just blows my mind. It's about the extent of my knowledge on him because I refuse to read the books. Boohiss on Mr. Twinkletoes! Go suck blood like a real vampire for godsakes!
Gricky, as I have already implied in a previous post that RPing is for fun only and I don't know if I can or will keep it up. Yes, they are a PIA to read (I try my best to make them readable though :gonk:), but I do pepper them with a lot of information as well (so...maybe don't skim if you have been).
i asked for reasons behind my vote. how is that an innapropriate response? how is that paranoia?
you might very well be worse than DCD time will tell
I see it as paranoia because it was the a vote placed against you that did not put you near L-2. Even if the vote was a joke there is no need to respond directly to the vote since you had a total of two votes on you.
I really dont like this post. It reeks of coaching, as if Art and Duca are on a scum team without nighttalk and Duca is trying to help Art with his false claim. Too me this is Noob scum trying to help a buddy and not realizing how big a mistake they have made.
unvote vote Duca
I go with the vote on Duca as it was a scummier slip.
Except, um, tordeck I'm over here.... *waves*
I don't need coaching because
A) I'm scum buddies with no one, and
B) I'm not false claiming.
You think I wouldn't have posted precisely what my full false claim would be in a scum chat pregame (and therefore need no coaching)? If not, you underestimate me.
Also, why in the hell would I false claim this early something that could be someone else's role? Do you seriously think I would risk that?? If it was a false claim that needed coaching, you are assuming I would have to pull it out of thin air.
If that's the case, isn't it likely (not certain, but likely) I could/would have been counterclaimed by now?
The point being, I don't understand this reasoning. Did you think through this attack at all? I mean, I'm not a fan of Duka's post, either, but for completely different reasons. It seems like plain-sight lurking to me. He didn't really say anything but speculate as to my abilities (or lackthereof). Not a fan. But to associate us is assinine. He's talking about Edward in more general terms, not coaching. That's just inventing reality.
Why are using such poor reasoning? FoS: Atrifice_101
What poor reasoning? You need me to break it down for you?
Here let me ask you this: What L-X level was poggydude at when you voted him? Do you even know? That's why I asked for a votecount in the same post.
Your vote was such a scummy hop, I shouldn't have to explain why you need more votes to the other good players. They should just see it for themselves.
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You think I wouldn't have posted precisely what my full false claim would be in a scum chat pregame (and therefore need no coaching)? If not, you underestimate me.
Often if a team does not have night talk they dont get to talk while in pregame. And even if they did they may not have all been available to plan or had enough time to fully plan.
Also, why in the hell would I false claim this early something that could be someone else's role? Do you seriously think I would risk that?? If it was a false claim that needed coaching, you are assuming I would have to pull it out of thin air.
If that's the case, isn't it likely (not certain, but likely) I could/would have been counterclaimed by now?[/qupte] A mod provided false claim cannot be counterclaimed as you would know the character is not in the game at all. As for the abilities of such character that I would not expect you to come right out an claim this soon but it was possible that Duca, being new here did not realize the implications of what he was posting.
[quote]The point being, I don't understand this reasoning. Did you think through this attack at all? I mean, I'm not a fan of Duka's post, either, but for completely different reasons. It seems like plain-sight lurking to me. He didn't really say anything but speculate as to my abilities (or lackthereof). Not a fan. But to associate us is assinine. He's talking about Edward in more general terms, not coaching. That's just inventing reality.
As I pointed out the post over all painted a worse picture for Duca than it did yourself hence my vote for him and not you. It very well could have been him trying to bait a cop claim from you or another player.
What poor reasoning? You need me to break it down for you?
Here let me ask you this: What L-X level was poggydude at when you voted him? Do you even know? That's why I asked for a votecount in the same post.
Your vote was such a scummy hop, I shouldn't have to explain why you need more votes to the other good players. They should just see it for themselves.
I will admit that I did not pay attention to the votes when I voted for poggydude. I went back and checked and found that poggydude had 3 votes when I had voted for him making mine the fourth vote. And with poggydude's play thus far I am happy where my vote rests.
However, the vote I am referring too was the first vote placed against poggydude and his reaction was towards the vote instead of the post in full.
So I barned another player even though the play was anti-town. Poggydude threw out logic and said lynch Dragonheart for something that is not indicative of alignment at all. I understand that we do not know Dragonheart's role, but I still find that to be too much of risk for the play that poggydude was suggesting.
So I barned another player even though the play was anti-town. Poggydude threw out logic and said lynch Dragonheart for something that is not indicative of alignment at all. I understand that we do not know Dragonheart's role, but I still find that to be too much of risk for the play that poggydude was suggesting.
Which play?
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I didn't comment on the conversations that are going on because at this point I cannot confidently point a finger at anyone. It's difficult for me to make conclusions from a lot of babbling so I wanted to talk about something that to me seems more relevant as I have no input on meta and half of your acronyms I still don't completely understand.
I didn't comment on the conversations that are going on because at this point I cannot confidently point a finger at anyone. It's difficult for me to make conclusions from a lot of babbling so I wanted to talk about something that to me seems more relevant as I have no input on meta and half of your acronyms I still don't completely understand.
This might help. It covers a bunch of what we're babbling about.
Sorry not much time to read through at the moment but I didn't like that his scum team had people actually in the game opposed to a "more" sarcastic post without people actually playing. But I agree poggy tends to do stupid crap in the game.
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You're going with the easy attack. See, that's what poggy does (similarly to Iso, but less subtle). He baits easy wagons. I actually hate this sort of play, but it works. Especially when bad, obvscum votes get piled on the wagon.
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You're going with the easy attack. See, that's what poggy does (similarly to Iso, but less subtle). He baits easy wagons. I actually hate this sort of play, but it works. Especially when bad, obvscum votes get piled on the wagon.
It makes it somewhat hard to read Pog, but I generally agree that he's a good wagonbaiter. He's not actually done anything wrong so far, it's just that his plan isn't the most agreeable. His reasoning is understandable but it's clearly not a good idea. That being said, I think he did the whole thing to invite weak votes onto him. Scum will jump on his kind of play because it's easy and looks scummy when it's actually not. The problem is deciding which votes come from scum and which votes came from newb/confused townies.
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3-Digi- One, one vote(Dragon). 2, 2 votes(Duca). Three, three votes(Reya).
2-Poggy- One, one vote(Void). 2, 2 votes(Digi).
2-Void- One, one vote(Poggy). 2, 2 votes(Art).
1-AE- One, one vote(JD).
1-Vox- One, one vote(GT)
1-Duca- One, one vote(tordeck)
Not voting- Vox, AE.
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unvote forgot about no rvs :rolleyes:.
Also what games has poggy been scum in don't think Ive seen him as scum.
Also Void's vote is bad. I could see newb town doing it though.
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I see it as paranoia because it was the a vote placed against you that did not put you near L-2. Even if the vote was a joke there is no need to respond directly to the vote since you had a total of two votes on you.
if everyone is allowed to vote without giving reasons then the game gets nowhere. Asking for reasons for a vote(to make sure it wasnt an RVS vote) is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Suggesting that im paranoid scum for requesting a reason for a vote is the weakest thing ive heard in a long time.
Also Void's vote is bad. I could see newb town doing it though.
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this is not the completed games list of a noob, its voids. you said so yourself that the vote was awful. Vote him or please give a better reason for why you aren't voting him.
Fox sighs. She wonders how one such as herself can become so exhausted. Then she remembers...too much work. Everyone knows she is rather dedicated to her work. She also has other commitments aside from this so has only been able to check briefly on how the case progressed from her mobile device recently.
She will admit, this case has got her stumped! She has pulled all the data files and spent time reviewing the information she has been able to gather. Unfortunately there is not much hard evidence at this point to go on. She has several notes in her files on persons she needs to follow up on. She decides that's a good place to start.
She sends a runner to post a message where everyone can see it:
Further probing or questing for secrets better kept private at this time will result into inquiries of intent. This information can only help the murderers.
She makes copies of identical letters to be sent to Gricky, poggy, Art, Dragon, Reya and Dad.
Several of you seem to have past history with the poggy fellow which was unknown to me. You seem to have been aware of his propensity to cause problems within the investigations. As I was not aware of these facts, I took his behavior at face value as he seemed to sincerely think they would truly help the investigation move forward. I will say again, I did not think it was appropriate because no information had been gathered at that point. It would be no better than choosing a person at random and forcing them to confess their secrets, in which case we may as well choose him for having such a terrible idea.
I was aware of Dragons lifestyle choice, by reading out of town news sites, however I never did fully trust that. To have one try to take advantage of it for gain is what made me cast my suspicion on poggy. I did have to wonder a bit at Dragons defensiveness, however from my other information sources out of town it seems like a common habit of his so I'm not going to read too much into it at this time.
Finally a question for you all. What are your thoughts on tordeck and Archmage?
She sends a separate letter to tordeck:
I read the information you gathered with interest on Art and Duca Luca. After reviewing it again I would have to say that the information on Duca is far more suspicious. Could be a youngsters mistake, or it could be purposely questing for more Power to help the murders. Art from what I've seen is far too experienced to need direction from a youngster such as Duca. He didn't even mention it until you brought it up. By any stretch, I'm not advocating a clearing of Art. As a vampire who professes to daywalk it is something to keep in mind. The murder might have been done at daybreak.
Finally a question for you all. What are your thoughts on tordeck and Archmage?
I'd like to say that I can read Archmage, because I believe I can. The issue with this in this game is he's roleplaying. Throws me off a bit. That being said, I think he's town. This is based non the fact that he's not trying to drive the action.
tordeck, I also want to say is town, except for that completely illogical perspective. It was a weird leap, but not outside of the realm of posts I've read in the past.
Of the two, I'm more sure about Arch that tordeck. I suggest you give it time. They both become more clear the longer you give them.
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It's weekend and most people are busy I guess. There isn't much content for me to analyze. Artifice seems likely to be scum, but it's hard to build a case with so few posts.
Honestly, the biggest thing working against Artifice right now IMO, is my experience with him in past games. I usually get a very strong town read from him very quickly. I'm getting a very scummy read form him here, and it's the first time I've felt that way after 2.5 games with him. (The two completed games he was town in.)
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That being said, my scum buddies were posting with PRs and roleplaying to go with the flow. So yes, it is null. But it is something to pay attention to and be very careful with.
Ok, now you're just fabricating crap. Breadcrumbing is when you mention something that you'll later confirm. How exactly did I do that? Also, you know from personal experience I do this post 1 in virtually every game where it makes sense. In this game, what difference does it make if we know what fictional character we all are? Flavor and role mechanics aren't going to mean squat in this game.
No. I'm exploring the flavor. Why are you overreacting to my thoughts so much?
I couldn't care less about what you all claim for the moment, as long as the major PRs play smart and don't out themselves.
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Edward, the Vampire from Twilight.... seriously?
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***BLINGGGGG!!*** :o:cool2:
Pretty much, and hence the pun/joke in my confirm post. If there's anyone I don't want to be identified with, this is pretty much it. There are sooooo many much cooler vamps. I sent Wuffles a list pre-game and he laughed at me. Basically told me he could neither confirm nor deny their presence in the game. Then he sticks me with this.
I bet his brother put him up to it....
Although the funny part is I likely live the closest to where those stories are set. The clan Cullen lives on the Olympic Peninsula of my state of Washington in the Northwestern U.S. (spelled out ad nausium for our foreign dignitaries -- PF and WuffleMod).
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jdisawesomesauce then. Sure. That's who I meant.
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Its not enough evidence in my mind to vote off of but IGMEOY Arty
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There are a LOT of opportunistic votes going on so far. I feel like most people are going after easy and/or obvious targets so they can /barn the previous posters.
Reya Cookiebringer, Buka snuka, and jdisawesomesauce definitely need to post more. I feel like I don't have much of a read on any of those three.
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It wasn't a criticism. It's actually funny to me that Foxlet is mourning Iso after he played a damn solid scum game against us. IIRC, it had frustrated Foxlet quite a bit towards the end. Now she's mourning him and I think it's a pretty funny shift from the last game.
Well, I'm not voting him. I'm voting Foxlet. I think Pog's plan isn't the towniest thought out, but is rooted in townie intentions. Still, last time I checked the road to townieness wasn't paved with good intentions, so he's solidly neutral to me.
First, are the Post Restrictions mandatory or not? Are people just roleplaying or are they mandatory, because it makes a big difference.
Second, it's not that his roleplay is any worse than other peoples, it's that he's mourning dead town, something that scum commonly do to blend in. It happens normally on later days from D2 onward as the scum kill townies. Scum will lament over a dead town, whether by simple comment or full blown acting scene, for the simple fact that it seems townie to mourn the dead. I suppose he could be roleplaying very heavily as a mournful person, but when I see someone fretting over the death of a townie, I think of a worst case scenario, that he's a fakey actor trying for townie points. IIRC, Foxlet did it too, to a much more minor degree. Not the biggest issue in the world, but I thought it was worth noting.
I'm assuming that your nath was referring to this part of the post, but what do you know of my post frequency? I actually post quite often, once a day usually, if not more. Fridays I rarely post because I'm at FNM. I was replaced out of Avatar because I was busy with a new promotion at work. Also, aside from that game, this is the first game we've played together, so how am I hard to read from it when you've got no history with me?
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Jokes aside, why didn't you mention your reasoning in your vote? And be specific, what about Pog's conversation with Dragonheart did you find scummy?
Also, why attack me for keeping a note on the list when you did so yourself?
Foxlet has stated that its RP and that he/she may not keep it up. The others have yet to clarify if its RP or PR. (though if its PR they are lucky compared to the last one wuffy gave out)
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Just what I was thinking.
I googled Twilight before the game even started because I figured the main character would at least be included if not spitefully assigned to Reya. Apparently Edward can read minds and I don't know how much flavour tends to correlate with roles, but likely his fictional ability would translate to telling roles or alignment.
So which one of you likes to eat garlic, sunbathe, and swim?
First, thanks. I didn't really do much, just stopped playing for a long time and came back, so I dunno how/why anything changed lol.
As for the Rping, if it's RP it means very little regarding gamestate. If there are three people with Post Restrictions, then I was going to say that at least one is scum. If the RPing is by choice, then that doesn't apply, but the RPing players still bear close watching in case they scumslip. Sometimes a player can make big slips in a Roleplayed post and it's just totally lost on the town.
I agree that Void seems scummy from his barnvote, but could you provide reasoning, or have you done that and I missed it?
gricky,
here is my basic reasoning(also the barn vote as well)
he basically attacked me for the most normal reasonable post out of all my posts. the first part of his attack on me made virtually no sense.
Crap!! I'm caught. Son of a....
It has nothing to do with Poggy. Go look at the sign up thread for refrence. The posts betveen me and GT.
I could care less when Poggy does dumb things. It happens all the time.
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I don't think Vox is. That vould probably mean bad things vor us sharp teeth
Iv Poggy or Dragon come up scum I'm gunning for the other one. It looks like a pregame chat to argue vith one another to distance.
Void has pingd but not enough to vote.
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I really dont like this post. It reeks of coaching, as if Art and Duca are on a scum team without nighttalk and Duca is trying to help Art with his false claim. Too me this is Noob scum trying to help a buddy and not realizing how big a mistake they have made.
unvote vote Duca
I go with the vote on Duca as it was a scummier slip.
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I made all the jokes about Edward/Twilight because the whole thought of vampires that sparkle just blows my mind. It's about the extent of my knowledge on him because I refuse to read the books. Boohiss on Mr. Twinkletoes! Go suck blood like a real vampire for godsakes!
Gricky, as I have already implied in a previous post that RPing is for fun only and I don't know if I can or will keep it up. Yes, they are a PIA to read (I try my best to make them readable though :gonk:), but I do pepper them with a lot of information as well (so...maybe don't skim if you have been).
Anyway, back to work and all that srs business
Just a heads up, I frequent tournaments all through the weekend, so my posting will likely slow down a great deal or even stop during these days.
As of right now, Poggledude is still the scumiest.
Reya, Void and Duca need to post more. I am getting hardly anything for my notes from these three.
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I see it as paranoia because it was the a vote placed against you that did not put you near L-2. Even if the vote was a joke there is no need to respond directly to the vote since you had a total of two votes on you.
Why are using such poor reasoning? FoS: Atrifice_101
I don't need coaching because
A) I'm scum buddies with no one, and
B) I'm not false claiming.
You think I wouldn't have posted precisely what my full false claim would be in a scum chat pregame (and therefore need no coaching)? If not, you underestimate me.
Also, why in the hell would I false claim this early something that could be someone else's role? Do you seriously think I would risk that?? If it was a false claim that needed coaching, you are assuming I would have to pull it out of thin air.
If that's the case, isn't it likely (not certain, but likely) I could/would have been counterclaimed by now?
The point being, I don't understand this reasoning. Did you think through this attack at all? I mean, I'm not a fan of Duka's post, either, but for completely different reasons. It seems like plain-sight lurking to me. He didn't really say anything but speculate as to my abilities (or lackthereof). Not a fan. But to associate us is assinine. He's talking about Edward in more general terms, not coaching. That's just inventing reality.
What poor reasoning? You need me to break it down for you?
Here let me ask you this: What L-X level was poggydude at when you voted him? Do you even know? That's why I asked for a votecount in the same post.
Your vote was such a scummy hop, I shouldn't have to explain why you need more votes to the other good players. They should just see it for themselves.
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As I pointed out the post over all painted a worse picture for Duca than it did yourself hence my vote for him and not you. It very well could have been him trying to bait a cop claim from you or another player.
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I will admit that I did not pay attention to the votes when I voted for poggydude. I went back and checked and found that poggydude had 3 votes when I had voted for him making mine the fourth vote. And with poggydude's play thus far I am happy where my vote rests.
However, the vote I am referring too was the first vote placed against poggydude and his reaction was towards the vote instead of the post in full.
So I barned another player even though the play was anti-town. Poggydude threw out logic and said lynch Dragonheart for something that is not indicative of alignment at all. I understand that we do not know Dragonheart's role, but I still find that to be too much of risk for the play that poggydude was suggesting.
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I didn't comment on the conversations that are going on because at this point I cannot confidently point a finger at anyone. It's difficult for me to make conclusions from a lot of babbling so I wanted to talk about something that to me seems more relevant as I have no input on meta and half of your acronyms I still don't completely understand.
Clearly not, but at least I'm now engaged in conversation.
Your sentences run together, hence why I lose which whatsis is what whatsis as I read them.
So in other words, the still obvious answer is why you're voting poggy...
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You're going with the easy attack. See, that's what poggy does (similarly to Iso, but less subtle). He baits easy wagons. I actually hate this sort of play, but it works. Especially when bad, obvscum votes get piled on the wagon.
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It makes it somewhat hard to read Pog, but I generally agree that he's a good wagonbaiter. He's not actually done anything wrong so far, it's just that his plan isn't the most agreeable. His reasoning is understandable but it's clearly not a good idea. That being said, I think he did the whole thing to invite weak votes onto him. Scum will jump on his kind of play because it's easy and looks scummy when it's actually not. The problem is deciding which votes come from scum and which votes came from newb/confused townies.
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Aaa Greatings. LOOK! votes, I vill count them.
3-Digi- One, one vote(Dragon). 2, 2 votes(Duca). Three, three votes(Reya).
2-Poggy- One, one vote(Void). 2, 2 votes(Digi).
2-Void- One, one vote(Poggy). 2, 2 votes(Art).
1-AE- One, one vote(JD).
1-Vox- One, one vote(GT)
1-Duca- One, one vote(tordeck)
Not voting- Vox, AE.
A a a aa a aa a a a. I love to count votes. Do you knov vhy I like to count votes? Because then I can count lynches. I love it. A a aaaa a a a a aa a.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
unvote forgot about no rvs :rolleyes:.
Also what games has poggy been scum in don't think Ive seen him as scum.
Also Void's vote is bad. I could see newb town doing it though.
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if everyone is allowed to vote without giving reasons then the game gets nowhere. Asking for reasons for a vote(to make sure it wasnt an RVS vote) is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Suggesting that im paranoid scum for requesting a reason for a vote is the weakest thing ive heard in a long time.
Virtually certain you are scum
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this is not the completed games list of a noob, its voids. you said so yourself that the vote was awful. Vote him or please give a better reason for why you aren't voting him.
Good thing Void is not a noob then.
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They hate us cause they ain't us.
Scum. He's not new. He has a habit of playing scummy games though, which is the only detraction to voting him here, or in any game.
Foxlet has lurked a bit as of late and I wasn't happy with her Pogvote, but Voids is worse and his reasoning is bad. Unvote, Vote Void
What's the VC now?
Just checked AE's VC and I find it strange that DCD is up to 3 votes. How the hell does that work?
2-Poggy-
3-Void-
1-AE-
highly unnoficial votecount
1-Duca- One, one vote(tordeck)
She will admit, this case has got her stumped! She has pulled all the data files and spent time reviewing the information she has been able to gather. Unfortunately there is not much hard evidence at this point to go on. She has several notes in her files on persons she needs to follow up on. She decides that's a good place to start.
She sends a runner to post a message where everyone can see it:
Further probing or questing for secrets better kept private at this time will result into inquiries of intent. This information can only help the murderers.
She makes copies of identical letters to be sent to Gricky, poggy, Art, Dragon, Reya and Dad.
Several of you seem to have past history with the poggy fellow which was unknown to me. You seem to have been aware of his propensity to cause problems within the investigations. As I was not aware of these facts, I took his behavior at face value as he seemed to sincerely think they would truly help the investigation move forward. I will say again, I did not think it was appropriate because no information had been gathered at that point. It would be no better than choosing a person at random and forcing them to confess their secrets, in which case we may as well choose him for having such a terrible idea.
I was aware of Dragons lifestyle choice, by reading out of town news sites, however I never did fully trust that. To have one try to take advantage of it for gain is what made me cast my suspicion on poggy. I did have to wonder a bit at Dragons defensiveness, however from my other information sources out of town it seems like a common habit of his so I'm not going to read too much into it at this time.
Finally a question for you all. What are your thoughts on tordeck and Archmage?
She sends a separate letter to tordeck:
I read the information you gathered with interest on Art and Duca Luca. After reviewing it again I would have to say that the information on Duca is far more suspicious. Could be a youngsters mistake, or it could be purposely questing for more Power to help the murders. Art from what I've seen is far too experienced to need direction from a youngster such as Duca. He didn't even mention it until you brought it up. By any stretch, I'm not advocating a clearing of Art. As a vampire who professes to daywalk it is something to keep in mind. The murder might have been done at daybreak.
tordeck, I also want to say is town, except for that completely illogical perspective. It was a weird leap, but not outside of the realm of posts I've read in the past.
Of the two, I'm more sure about Arch that tordeck. I suggest you give it time. They both become more clear the longer you give them.
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Vhat vas the play that vas scummy? The barn? Or the other players play?
Vhere is everyone? I can count, A a aa a aa count, on one hand the number of posts today.
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Honestly, the biggest thing working against Artifice right now IMO, is my experience with him in past games. I usually get a very strong town read from him very quickly. I'm getting a very scummy read form him here, and it's the first time I've felt that way after 2.5 games with him. (The two completed games he was town in.)