I would have NK'd you Zelderex and taking my chances with convincing flufflyn00b that Audinho was scum. I believe that would have worked with flufflyn00b seeing me as town going into the final Night. I had thought of the No Lynch being possible on that Day and was expecting it to happen. When it didn't I nearly cried.
Really? Really? I admitted my flavor to secure a place as town in a few people's eyes. Keep their votes off me in case a wagon got started in my direction.
Then again, if that's the case, my claim effectively cinched the game for us, as I cast doubt on Audinho while risking my own neck. It wasn't my intention, but hey, lucky gamble.
I knew it was a good idea to keep you, Zeld, around. You are far more likely to become highly confident with almost total conviction after seeing no truly conclusive evidence. I thought Art was the same way, but apparently not, as Void tried to explain night 1, and we saw for ourselves on day 2, he's a scary guy to leave unchecked. It's like he's a cop without being a cop.
So, errors in my play-style? This was my first time being scum.
Also, I still love Fluffyn00b. An anchor for town that was immune to lynch. (No offense, fluffy, but you really do need to try harder.)
I would have NK'd you Zelderex and taking my chances with convincing flufflyn00b that Audinho was scum. I believe that would have worked with flufflyn00b seeing me as town going into the final Night. I had thought of the No Lynch being possible on that Day and was expecting it to happen. When it didn't I nearly cried.
Interesting. Yeah, Fluffy being malleable was gonna be a problem for town eventually. Then again, my bullheaded charging at everything that moved was a problem...every day, actually.
Interesting. Yeah, Fluffy being malleable was gonna be a problem for town eventually. Then again, my bullheaded charging at everything that moved was a problem...every day, actually.
Look at this way:
If I NK flufflyn00b, then I am in a much worse position, becasue he is a confirmed Town Bodyguard which would nullify me being a 1-Shot Doctor in the game or at least it should have. I have never seen two Protective Roles in a Basic Game.
If I NK Audinho, then I have deal with two players who have no idea who scum is and that would put me at risk also. I'm confident enough in my play, but my play isn't the greatest. I've never been a LyLo situation and therefore the stress level would have been higher and more likely for me to slip.
I disagree it's impossible for a basic to have two (weakish) protective roles, unlikely yes, but certainly not impossible, 1-shot doc it's not a terrible claim from this position (I wouldn't have done that though), but one thing is certain, why the scum didn't killed at least one of the two protective roles? If they were both real, scum would have killed them asap because are bad in a POE situation.
The fact both roles lived to the end, ensures one of them is scum because scum isn't touching the real doc or the fakeclaimer will become apparent. Therefore Void was certainly scum unless someone thinks FN is a scum mastermind that gambitted claiming bodyguard hoping the town has no protective roles at all.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I stopped it too look as town as possible. I think it worked.
And FTR, I would have done that regardless of alignment. Mass Claims will kill the town when done too early.
Zelderex:
Why did you shoot Rithaniel that Night? You do realize if you hadn't shot Rithaniel or myself that we would have lost that Night?
It did work!
I agree that mass claims are bad for town, but in that position I felt like it would have helped uncover some things. Mostly we get to start having fluffy protect giga and have him keep tracking people.
We also might have revisited your claim... There was a reason I was trying to get you and fluffy to re-claim...
Sitting in my seat that game, do you honestly think that slowing down and doing a mass claim would have ended up worse for the town than what actually happened?
Bottom line: If things hadn't happened, other things would have happened.
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Can we have Megiddo removed from the forum forever please?
i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
And FTR, I would have done that regardless of alignment. Mass Claims will kill the town when done too early.
Opening hand of 4x siege gang commanders and 3x mountains, do you mulligan or not?
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
After getting literally nowhere but losing a game because of setup gaming in my first game (r_0 can tacitly back me up here), I had sort of sworn it off in favor of behavioral analysis.
I blame myself more than anyone for the way that game went down, but I agree with your point.
My play is evolving as I play more games, and this game has taught me a few lessons. I thank everybody for allowing me to learn + grow.
I hope that we all have; that is precisely what Basic games are for
EWP2: the balance of this game is perfect, I checked with Axel's mafia pointing article and it's just perfect.
I do not use that, but still good to know.
Congratulations to the mafia for the win, as well as nearly everyone for generally good play considering your experience level.
Void is the Maia MVP.
Special thanks to Void, Arnnaria, Artifice 101, GigaRage, Rithaniel, and Audinho for replacing in, and to Manders for helping me get the game started (as she always does :love:).
I blame myself more than anyone for the way that game went down, but I agree with your point.
I hope that we all have; that is precisely what Basic games are for
I do not use that, but still good to know.
Congratulations to the mafia for the win, as well as nearly everyone for generally good play considering your experience level.
Void is the Maia MVP.
Special thanks to Void, Arnnaria, Artifice 101, GigaRage, Rithaniel, and Audinho for replacing in, and to Manders for helping me get the game started (as she always does :love:).
Nice job with the cop thing, Art. I had absolutely no idea why I was lynched on Day 2. I was considering leaving you as the "lone experienced player" scum gig but after that we just had to kill you.
Sorry, team. Too much waffling and case-shuffling hurt me.
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Special thanks to Void, Arnnaria, Artifice 101, GigaRage, Rithaniel, and Audinho for replacing in, and to Manders for helping me get the game started (as she always does :love:).
I didn't do much besides get the game out of a day one rut, but you're welcome.
Special thanks to Void, Arnnaria, Artifice 101, GigaRage, Rithaniel, and Audinho for replacing in, and to Manders for helping me get the game started (as she always does :love:).
I agree that mass claims are bad for town, but in that position I felt like it would have helped uncover some things. Mostly we get to start having fluffy protect giga and have him keep tracking people.
We also might have revisited your claim... There was a reason I was trying to get you and fluffy to re-claim...
Sitting in my seat that game, do you honestly think that slowing down and doing a mass claim would have ended up worse for the town than what actually happened?
Bottom line: If things hadn't happened, other things would have happened.
edit: nice avatar DRey
In all honesty, I do believe a mass claim at that given time would have benefited the town more than the scum team since the investigative PR and Protective PR were still alive.
FTR, GigaRage, you would have never caught me doing the NK becasue of Brofaux's botched claim. Even though it wasn't discussed in the Mafia QT, I would not have allowed myself to do the NK, becasue of the fore metioned reasoning. It was only after you were gone that I did an NK and even then it was on the final Night.
You have much to learn young padawan, before deciding to mulligan one must know the actual deck. In this case the deck was: 4x siege-gang commanders and 56 mountains, and you have just mulliganed "everytime" the very best hand this deck could produce. Mass claims are the same, "mass claims are always bad for town" is a very wrong premisse, there are a lot of situations mass claims benefit the town.
Anyway good job, looks like you fooled everyone on this game.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
You have much to learn young padawan, before deciding to mulligan one must know the actual deck. In this case the deck was: 4x siege-gang commanders and 56 mountains, and you have just mulliganed "everytime" the very best hand this deck could produce. Mass claims are the same, "mass claims are always bad for town" is a very wrong premisse, there are a lot of situations mass claims benefit the town.
Anyway good job, looks like you fooled everyone on this game.
Looks like you have some to learn as well since you would have given me a deck that would lose to just about anything.
In all honesty, I do believe a mass claim at that given time would have benefited the town more than the scum team since the investigative PR and Protective PR were still alive.
Then again, if that's the case, my claim effectively cinched the game for us, as I cast doubt on Audinho while risking my own neck. It wasn't my intention, but hey, lucky gamble.
I knew it was a good idea to keep you, Zeld, around. You are far more likely to become highly confident with almost total conviction after seeing no truly conclusive evidence. I thought Art was the same way, but apparently not, as Void tried to explain night 1, and we saw for ourselves on day 2, he's a scary guy to leave unchecked. It's like he's a cop without being a cop.
So, errors in my play-style? This was my first time being scum.
Also, I still love Fluffyn00b. An anchor for town that was immune to lynch. (No offense, fluffy, but you really do need to try harder.)
Interesting. Yeah, Fluffy being malleable was gonna be a problem for town eventually. Then again, my bullheaded charging at everything that moved was a problem...every day, actually.
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Look at this way:
If I NK flufflyn00b, then I am in a much worse position, becasue he is a confirmed Town Bodyguard which would nullify me being a 1-Shot Doctor in the game or at least it should have. I have never seen two Protective Roles in a Basic Game.
If I NK Audinho, then I have deal with two players who have no idea who scum is and that would put me at risk also. I'm confident enough in my play, but my play isn't the greatest. I've never been a LyLo situation and therefore the stress level would have been higher and more likely for me to slip.
The obvious choice IMO would be you, Zelderex.
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And with that there is another reason why Brofaux should have been lynched when he claimed, but then again, Artifice did nothing about it too.
In other news, I can't sleep.
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If I haven't said it yet, this game has been teaching me many lessons.
The fact both roles lived to the end, ensures one of them is scum because scum isn't touching the real doc or the fakeclaimer will become apparent. Therefore Void was certainly scum unless someone thinks FN is a scum mastermind that gambitted claiming bodyguard hoping the town has no protective roles at all.
EWP: I really enjoyed jiglepuff gimmick, you guys are no fun for bashing him.
EWP2: the balance of this game is perfect, I checked with Axel's mafia pointing article and it's just perfect.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I agree that mass claims are bad for town, but in that position I felt like it would have helped uncover some things. Mostly we get to start having fluffy protect giga and have him keep tracking people.
We also might have revisited your claim... There was a reason I was trying to get you and fluffy to re-claim...
Sitting in my seat that game, do you honestly think that slowing down and doing a mass claim would have ended up worse for the town than what actually happened?
Bottom line: If things hadn't happened, other things would have happened.
edit: nice avatar DRey
edit: I like yours too
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
I blame myself more than anyone for the way that game went down, but I agree with your point.
I hope that we all have; that is precisely what Basic games are for
I do not use that, but still good to know.
Congratulations to the mafia for the win, as well as nearly everyone for generally good play considering your experience level.
Void is the Maia MVP.
Special thanks to Void, Arnnaria, Artifice 101, GigaRage, Rithaniel, and Audinho for replacing in, and to Manders for helping me get the game started (as she always does :love:).
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Nice job with the cop thing, Art. I had absolutely no idea why I was lynched on Day 2. I was considering leaving you as the "lone experienced player" scum gig but after that we just had to kill you.
Sorry, team. Too much waffling and case-shuffling hurt me.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I didn't do much besides get the game out of a day one rut, but you're welcome.
Mulligan, each and every time.
Thank you for the MVP.
And Your Welcome. Always glad to help out.
No worries Prophylaxis. I did my best to bus then. I had started a little early, but that was only to show consitency with my play.
Thanks, Iso. I feel this game was one of my better plays yet.
And /barn the entire Brofaux case.
It was still a great help to the game and will always be appreciated.
In all honesty, I do believe a mass claim at that given time would have benefited the town more than the scum team since the investigative PR and Protective PR were still alive.
FTR, GigaRage, you would have never caught me doing the NK becasue of Brofaux's botched claim. Even though it wasn't discussed in the Mafia QT, I would not have allowed myself to do the NK, becasue of the fore metioned reasoning. It was only after you were gone that I did an NK and even then it was on the final Night.
Anyway good job, looks like you fooled everyone on this game.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
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Looks like you have some to learn as well since you would have given me a deck that would lose to just about anything.
Also, DRey, you missed this part in my last post: