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And you're willing to still push a softclaim, despite me stating that it will likely reveal unnecessarily revealed information about any role I may or may not have?
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And you're willing to still push a softclaim, despite me stating that it will likely reveal unnecessarily revealed information about any role I may or may not have?
You have already basically claimed not troll and not human. -And I know nothing about your role. So, I'd say it's safe.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the kcc post right above mine read as a fishing attempt?
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Currently reading the webcomic. Loving it, but I'm not very far. So far, favorite thing is "A father without a pipe is like a strapping roughneck without a toothpick. That is to say, HE IS A RATHER PISS-POOR ROUGHNECK IF YOU ASK ME."
Hilarious.
I'm with Iso on the softclaim issue. I'm generally against claiming until L-2, unless there is significant evidence that claiming will break a game open for the town. It may seem harmless to soft claim race, but I'm against giving info to the scum when there is nothing to gain for the town either. There is an extreme scenario floating in my head as to how this could help the scum far more than it helps the town. Say, for example, there are 3 power roles and all of them are trolls. Everyone else in the town is vanilla. We race claim, the scum see that there are only 3 trolls and decide to commit experimental genocide. They kill a troll, they get a PR.
Not saying that's at all probable, but the fact that it's the least bit possible coupled with the fact that I can't see one of those extreme scenarios that leans in the towns favor leads me to believe a softclaim of any sort is bad.
Lastly, I'm attempting to quit smoking as of today. So if I seem slightly insane and tempermental, that's why.
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@GT - I agree with you on the issue of a raceclaim...Sounds a bit extreme, but nothing is impossible... Also good luck, I'm still "quitting" myself Have smoked two stoges in two weeks...One for magic, one for poker lol.
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Thanks for the support on the smoking issue. I've got an electronic cigerette which I'm hoping will help. Anybody know anything about an electronic cigerrette's effectiveness?
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I didn't like the one I have. It doesn't quite fulfill me. I'm actually taking chantix. If you have any questions about medications and therapies along those routes, I'd be more than happy to bury you in resources! Resources! Resources! Resources!
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Based on what you've claimed already and my knowledge of the source, you kinda have. -I know for a fact you aren't a troll based on what you've said about your name (assuming you aren't lying). And while a human is still remotely possible (though I have no idea how you couldn't have figured out what race your character is if it's one of the vaguely named humans), there are far, far more possibilities in the "other" category...
-But even if you now specifically claimed "other" or surprised me by claiming "human," that would still tell me exactly nothing about your role. So, there really wouldn't be any harm to this kind of soft claim.
-Not that I really care if we do it. I like soft-claims, and this is a good one that's both safe and would narrow down potential claims, but again, this is only a suggestion for what kind of claim we do if we decide on a soft claim.
Based on what you've claimed already and my knowledge of the source, you kinda have. -I know for a fact you aren't a troll based on what you've said about your name (assuming you aren't lying). And while a human is still remotely possible (though I have no idea how you couldn't have figured out what race your character is if it's one of the vaguely named humans), there are far, far more possibilities in the "other" category...
Based on my name, it's possible that I'm a human, but I really have no idea at all anything about Homestuck - as I said.
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-But even if you now specifically claimed "other" or surprised me by claiming "human," that would still tell me exactly nothing about your role. So, there really wouldn't be any harm to this kind of soft claim.
But I don't know that it doesn't give you information.
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-Not that I really care if we do it. I like soft-claims, and this is a good one that's both safe and would narrow down potential claims, but again, this is only a suggestion for what kind of claim we do if we decide on a soft claim.
I'd really much prefer we move on from the claim idea and put the game into "go" mode.
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Based on my name, it's possible that I'm a human, but I really have no idea at all anything about Homestuck - as I said.
Well, that's not too hard to figure out. -If it's a name you might use to refer to someone in normal, everyday life, then you're a human. If it's a more elaborate name, something that sounds like it could refer to a human, but it's not a phrase you'd ever actually, realistically use, then your race would fall under "other."
But I don't know that it doesn't give you information.
-Well, it doesn't. There are multiple characters of each race who would make sense as a variety of power roles. -And that's even if WG didn't put a lot of effort into making flavor gaming difficult.
-Which is why I proposed it instead of the far more dangerous name claim.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the kcc post right above mine read as a fishing attempt?
I disagree. KCC was only explaining what she'd already seen, not requesting more. -Plus, fishing isn't even something KCC does. I'm pretty sure I've never once seen her fish for info. -She always just seems to have this weird sort of powerrole radar without it, which when she's scum is basically the only useful thing she does, and when she's town, it often gets tangled up with her scumdar and causes problems.
-Anyway, I think we can all agree that fishing is definitely not a thing that was happening there.
But you should have more time for Mafia, no? You lurked a lot in Peso before you replaced out.
That's a lie. Unvote Vote: Iso
68 out of 1045, 11 of which took place at the end of the game. Looking at the post counts, there's you with 307, then AsianInvasion with 98 and ced with 78. How the **** can you even try to say that I lurked in that game? I was active as hell trying to get AI lynched (and actually preparing to Daykill him for the town points.
One thing I know about you from the last game on the other forum is this: you'll lie through your teeth if you think you can get away with it in order to get someone lynched. That's what you're doing here, and now you need to be lynched.
MandersHex, mind linking us to the game in question? I'd like to see what you and Iso are talking about.
Without reading it, your vote on Iso seems like OMGUS. Your taken abackness reads genuine (read: towny), but your reasons for voting are shaky (again, without reading the game in question).
MandersHex, mind linking us to the game in question? I'd like to see what you and Iso are talking about.
Without reading it, your vote on Iso seems like OMGUS. Your taken abackness reads genuine (read: towny), but your reasons for voting are shaky (again, without reading the game in question).
Oh, the game on the other site? No, I actually am unable to link to it because of the nature of the site.
I'm fairly certain he does that as scum here, too, though. Check out his blog for scum games. Off the top of my head, he was recently scum in Starcraft Mafia.
I disagree. KCC was only explaining what she'd already seen, not requesting more. -Plus, fishing isn't even something KCC does. I'm pretty sure I've never once seen her fish for info. -She always just seems to have this weird sort of powerrole radar without it, which when she's scum is basically the only useful thing she does, and when she's town, it often gets tangled up with her scumdar and causes problems.
-Anyway, I think we can all agree that fishing is definitely not a thing that was happening there.
68 out of 1045, 11 of which took place at the end of the game. Looking at the post counts, there's you with 307, then AsianInvasion with 98 and ced with 78. How the **** can you even try to say that I lurked in that game? I was active as hell trying to get AI lynched (and actually preparing to Daykill him for the town points.
Nope. All you did was say "lol guys AI is scum" and when asked why, you said, "he has no reasoning and yeah", basically. And then when I pressured you, you blew up similarly to how you just did.
Oh, the game on the other site? No, I actually am unable to link to it because of the nature of the site.
I'm fairly certain he does that as scum here, too, though. Check out his blog for scum games. Off the top of my head, he was recently scum in Starcraft Mafia.
My two most recent scum games on MTGS were Starcraft and 1984. You know meta is ineffective in determining my alignment, Manders. The fact that you're even trying to push this is ridiculously scummy of you.
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Nope. All you did was say "lol guys AI is scum" and when asked why, you said, "he has no reasoning and yeah", basically. And then when I pressured you, you blew up similarly to how you just did.
So...nice OMGUS vote.
Bull****. I made well done cases on why I thought AI was scum. As usual, I got ****ing ignored. Way to cement my thoughts on you.
My two most recent scum games on MTGS were Starcraft and 1984. You know meta is ineffective in determining my alignment, Manders. The fact that you're even trying to push this is ridiculously scummy of you.
This is playstyle. You lie and go for the throat in a very specific way when you're scum. I caught onto it in Bozo's game.
But, no, it's cool. Get me lynched, big boy. And when I flip town, the rest of you better lynch this guy. Cause he's scum.
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First, why do you think you're going to be lynched? As far as I know, only Iso is seriously voting for you; no one had joined a bandwagon yet.
Second, aside from Iso lying about a game which we don't have access to, why is Iso scum?
You seem to be getting very emotional over this (your posts read more desperate), so your vote seems like OMGUS. Go back and read your posts, and let me know if you agree.
@Iso: how is/was MandersHex lurking? Or was your vote more of a shot in the dark to stir things up? What other reasons, if any, did you have for voting for her?
First, why do you think you're going to be lynched? As far as I know, only Iso is seriously voting for you; no one had joined a bandwagon yet.
Because Iso's wanting me lynched. He's good and charismatic. Probably good enough to make it happen.
Second, aside from Iso lying about a game which we don't have access to, why is Iso scum?
Oh, do you want the link to Peso del Grande? That's on this site. He says I was lurking in that game until I replaced out. That's a bold-faced lie.
You seem to be getting very emotional over this (your posts read more desperate), so your vote seems like OMGUS. Go back and read your posts, and let me know if you agree.
I don't need to read them. I'm sure I do seem more emotional than him. That's kinda SOP for me, though, and trying to distinguish my alignment based on my emotions is a fruitless endeavor.
I don't need to read them. I'm sure I do seem more emotional than him. That's kinda SOP for me, though, and trying to distinguish my alignment based on my emotions is a fruitless endeavor.
In Cirque du Freak she was behaving similarly, and she was most townie player of all. I'm not sure what to make of this iso/mandershex thing since they're both so much more experienced. I'm inclined to believe manders though because of aforementioned reason.
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As for actual content, I totally disagree with Iso's claim that Manders has been lurky, quite the opposite actually. However, Manders responds with complete overreaction to it with OMGUS and she has apparently already accepted death. Dunno why, there's hardly any pressure on her, but she's flipped nonetheless. The big problem with Manders emotions is that it's a null tell, I've seen her flip out as both town and scum. But I don't think I've ever seen it happen over one vote from a "Good and Charasmatic" player. This whole exchange between Iso and Manders is confusing. Need a reread.
Also, people should post more.
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I'm having trouble figuring out how to read this. -Are you just being funny? -Or are you saying that you disagree with the post?
If it's the first, then okay. But if it's the latter -please elaborate?
If I read it correctly, then that comment is just a summary of your quote.
But seriously KCC, you fish. You fish a lot. Hell, up until recently, Fish was your last name! HA! I know it's silly but I had to make the joke, and since you can't tell when people are being funny, I had to write this comment too!
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@ anyone wondering... I to will add my name to the list of people who has experienced MHs...how to describe this...passionate play style(serious two minutes into trying to not make mh out to be a crazy pmsing female like some people seem to ).
it reads pretty similarly to how she often goes about doing things, so I'd say it's a null tell as to her alignment. that considered...im gonna be watching for any possible tells that may be covered up by emotion.
@ KCC I don't read it as iso trying to be funny so much as I read him as mocking you in that context.
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Yanni - 1 (KittyCupCake)
Archae - 1 (Zenjo)
Charmander - 1 (LenKenneth)
MandersHex - 1 (Iso)
Miracule - 1 (Yanni)
Wolf with a Bass - 1 (Charmander)
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@Iso: how is/was MandersHex lurking? Or was your vote more of a shot in the dark to stir things up? What other reasons, if any, did you have for voting for her?
Manders is making a lot of posts with little to no actual content in them - hence, active lurking. You'll have to pardon me for not adding that qualifier in at first, I thought I was making myself clear.
In Cirque du Freak she was behaving similarly, and she was most townie player of all. I'm not sure what to make of this iso/mandershex thing since they're both so much more experienced. I'm inclined to believe manders though because of aforementioned reason.
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Given that I hadn't responded to any other posts here at the point that you made this, why would you assume I wasn't going to address it?
Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you weren't answering my questions. That post was from my phone, and scrolling/switching pages on my phone is terrible in terms of preserving position and zoom-in level. Apologies.
Manders is making a lot of posts with little to no actual content in them - hence, active lurking. You'll have to pardon me for not adding that qualifier in at first, I thought I was making myself clear.
Fair enough. I think there are other who are actively lurking and lurking outright. Why not them? Or, to retread my previous question: what other reasons did you have for voting MandersHex?
Oh, do you want the link to Peso del Grande? That's on this site. He says I was lurking in that game until I replaced out. That's a bold-faced lie.
I must have misread that, because I was asking why Iso was being scummy, and you directed me to a game in which you were scum and he was town. I don't follow that line of logic. Can you help me out there?
(I have yet to read all of that game, so if there is a particular salient part I should be looking at, that would help.)
I don't need to read them. I'm sure I do seem more emotional than him. That's kinda SOP for me, though, and trying to distinguish my alignment based on my emotions is a fruitless endeavor.
I didn't mean you were becoming more emotional than Iso, but rather your play became markedly more emotional from your previous posts. I wasn't comparing you and he, but rather you to yourself. Sorry for the confusion there.
Fair enough. I think there are other who are actively lurking and lurking outright. Why not them? Or, to retread my previous question: what other reasons did you have for voting MandersHex?
Because she's not scumhunting and I strongly felt this was not in line with her standard town play.
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I must have misread that, because I was asking why Iso was being scummy, and you directed me to a game in which you were scum and he was town. I don't follow that line of logic. Can you help me out there?
My point with him is he's acting like he did in a game when he was scum on another site that I cannot link to, but I also said that a strong piece of evidence is that he makes **** up/blows **** out of proportion to incriminate his target when he's scum. He said I was lurking in Peso del Grande. I said I was not. I've provided the resource to you.
(I have yet to read all of that game, so if there is a particular salient part I should be looking at, that would help.)
My activity. I wasn't in it that long. I replaced out. I only have 68 posts, 11 of which took place after the game ended.
I didn't mean you were becoming more emotional than Iso, but rather your play became markedly more emotional from your previous posts. I wasn't comparing you and he, but rather you to yourself. Sorry for the confusion there.
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, he's saying **** that's pissing me off. Accusations of lurking/not providing content piss me off. And he knows this.
KCC, why are you so adamant on a softclaim?
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I like soft-claims. -Though adamant is a bit strong.
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You have already basically claimed not troll and not human. -And I know nothing about your role. So, I'd say it's safe.
/ooc and if anyone who knows how to cook checks in in the next few mins to an hour, do you have any tips on pan frying chicken? I'm teaching myself how to cook... and its...going.
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Hilarious.
I'm with Iso on the softclaim issue. I'm generally against claiming until L-2, unless there is significant evidence that claiming will break a game open for the town. It may seem harmless to soft claim race, but I'm against giving info to the scum when there is nothing to gain for the town either. There is an extreme scenario floating in my head as to how this could help the scum far more than it helps the town. Say, for example, there are 3 power roles and all of them are trolls. Everyone else in the town is vanilla. We race claim, the scum see that there are only 3 trolls and decide to commit experimental genocide. They kill a troll, they get a PR.
Not saying that's at all probable, but the fact that it's the least bit possible coupled with the fact that I can't see one of those extreme scenarios that leans in the towns favor leads me to believe a softclaim of any sort is bad.
Lastly, I'm attempting to quit smoking as of today. So if I seem slightly insane and tempermental, that's why.
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No I haven't.
So no you can't.
Loud and clear.
Also, what Gricky said RE: claims.
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Based on what you've claimed already and my knowledge of the source, you kinda have. -I know for a fact you aren't a troll based on what you've said about your name (assuming you aren't lying). And while a human is still remotely possible (though I have no idea how you couldn't have figured out what race your character is if it's one of the vaguely named humans), there are far, far more possibilities in the "other" category...
-But even if you now specifically claimed "other" or surprised me by claiming "human," that would still tell me exactly nothing about your role. So, there really wouldn't be any harm to this kind of soft claim.
-Not that I really care if we do it. I like soft-claims, and this is a good one that's both safe and would narrow down potential claims, but again, this is only a suggestion for what kind of claim we do if we decide on a soft claim.
Based on my name, it's possible that I'm a human, but I really have no idea at all anything about Homestuck - as I said.
But I don't know that it doesn't give you information.
I'd really much prefer we move on from the claim idea and put the game into "go" mode.
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Well, that's not too hard to figure out. -If it's a name you might use to refer to someone in normal, everyday life, then you're a human. If it's a more elaborate name, something that sounds like it could refer to a human, but it's not a phrase you'd ever actually, realistically use, then your race would fall under "other."
-Well, it doesn't. There are multiple characters of each race who would make sense as a variety of power roles. -And that's even if WG didn't put a lot of effort into making flavor gaming difficult.
-Which is why I proposed it instead of the far more dangerous name claim.
Soft claim discussion usually gets that ball rolling. -If you have another idea, go for it.
/joke
Anyway, Unvote, Vote Manders
Lurky Manders is not town Manders.
I think that's a good start.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
She's already got twice as many posts as half the field.
LOL it's a good thing you're cute.
No, no, he's right. I'm lurking even though I post every time I read.
Iso, you are aware of my current RL situation. Does that seem like something that would make me really feel like posting? Think about that.
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Because, not to be a dick, what else are you gonna do with your time?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Oh, I don't know, what I have been doing? Talk to people?
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
now to clean up the mess.
@Len - I'm not sure KCC can explain away what I said in response to what she said.
@Iso - I wasn't totally sure if it was fishing, seemed rather subtle for it, thank you for clarifying it
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I didn't think it was directed at me, but okay........
I disagree. KCC was only explaining what she'd already seen, not requesting more. -Plus, fishing isn't even something KCC does. I'm pretty sure I've never once seen her fish for info. -She always just seems to have this weird sort of powerrole radar without it, which when she's scum is basically the only useful thing she does, and when she's town, it often gets tangled up with her scumdar and causes problems.
-Anyway, I think we can all agree that fishing is definitely not a thing that was happening there.
That's a lie.
Unvote Vote: Iso
68 out of 1045, 11 of which took place at the end of the game. Looking at the post counts, there's you with 307, then AsianInvasion with 98 and ced with 78. How the **** can you even try to say that I lurked in that game? I was active as hell trying to get AI lynched (and actually preparing to Daykill him for the town points.
One thing I know about you from the last game on the other forum is this: you'll lie through your teeth if you think you can get away with it in order to get someone lynched. That's what you're doing here, and now you need to be lynched.
Sorry, I tried.
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Without reading it, your vote on Iso seems like OMGUS. Your taken abackness reads genuine (read: towny), but your reasons for voting are shaky (again, without reading the game in question).
Oh, the game on the other site? No, I actually am unable to link to it because of the nature of the site.
I'm fairly certain he does that as scum here, too, though. Check out his blog for scum games. Off the top of my head, he was recently scum in Starcraft Mafia.
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"Not I," said the cat!
Nope. All you did was say "lol guys AI is scum" and when asked why, you said, "he has no reasoning and yeah", basically. And then when I pressured you, you blew up similarly to how you just did.
So...nice OMGUS vote.
My two most recent scum games on MTGS were Starcraft and 1984. You know meta is ineffective in determining my alignment, Manders. The fact that you're even trying to push this is ridiculously scummy of you.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Bull****. I made well done cases on why I thought AI was scum. As usual, I got ****ing ignored. Way to cement my thoughts on you.
This is playstyle. You lie and go for the throat in a very specific way when you're scum. I caught onto it in Bozo's game.
But, no, it's cool. Get me lynched, big boy. And when I flip town, the rest of you better lynch this guy. Cause he's scum.
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
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First, why do you think you're going to be lynched? As far as I know, only Iso is seriously voting for you; no one had joined a bandwagon yet.
Second, aside from Iso lying about a game which we don't have access to, why is Iso scum?
You seem to be getting very emotional over this (your posts read more desperate), so your vote seems like OMGUS. Go back and read your posts, and let me know if you agree.
@Iso: how is/was MandersHex lurking? Or was your vote more of a shot in the dark to stir things up? What other reasons, if any, did you have for voting for her?
Because Iso's wanting me lynched. He's good and charismatic. Probably good enough to make it happen.
Oh, do you want the link to Peso del Grande? That's on this site. He says I was lurking in that game until I replaced out. That's a bold-faced lie.
I don't need to read them. I'm sure I do seem more emotional than him. That's kinda SOP for me, though, and trying to distinguish my alignment based on my emotions is a fruitless endeavor.
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In Cirque du Freak she was behaving similarly, and she was most townie player of all. I'm not sure what to make of this iso/mandershex thing since they're both so much more experienced. I'm inclined to believe manders though because of aforementioned reason.
I'm having trouble figuring out how to read this. -Are you just being funny? -Or are you saying that you disagree with the post?
If it's the first, then okay. But if it's the latter -please elaborate?
As for actual content, I totally disagree with Iso's claim that Manders has been lurky, quite the opposite actually. However, Manders responds with complete overreaction to it with OMGUS and she has apparently already accepted death. Dunno why, there's hardly any pressure on her, but she's flipped nonetheless. The big problem with Manders emotions is that it's a null tell, I've seen her flip out as both town and scum. But I don't think I've ever seen it happen over one vote from a "Good and Charasmatic" player. This whole exchange between Iso and Manders is confusing. Need a reread.
Also, people should post more.
If I read it correctly, then that comment is just a summary of your quote.
But seriously KCC, you fish. You fish a lot. Hell, up until recently, Fish was your last name! HA! I know it's silly but I had to make the joke, and since you can't tell when people are being funny, I had to write this comment too!
I know Iso was being funny. -I'm just not sure if it was meant as a summary, or if it was intended to be snarkier than that.
-Also, on the reading.
it reads pretty similarly to how she often goes about doing things, so I'd say it's a null tell as to her alignment. that considered...im gonna be watching for any possible tells that may be covered up by emotion.
@ KCC I don't read it as iso trying to be funny so much as I read him as mocking you in that context.
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I just started Act 4 this morning!
Okay, good, so I'm not just crazy then. -It actually was an ambiguous message.
-I guess I'll just need to wait for Iso to explain.
-There may be hope for this game yet.
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Iso - 2 (parinoid, MandersHex)
Yanni - 1 (KittyCupCake)
Archae - 1 (Zenjo)
Charmander - 1 (LenKenneth)
MandersHex - 1 (Iso)
Miracule - 1 (Yanni)
Wolf with a Bass - 1 (Charmander)
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@Iso: my previous questions stand.
@Miracule: same question from before. That is, did you take on more than one gimmick? Your language of 'switching gimmicks' seems to imply so.
@LenKenneth and Zenjo: more content please. What do you think of everything so far? What do you want to ask of other players?
@Yanni: will you be able to participate during your V/LA? I hope so.
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Manders is making a lot of posts with little to no actual content in them - hence, active lurking. You'll have to pardon me for not adding that qualifier in at first, I thought I was making myself clear.
Lurking, active lurking, whatever. Same premise.
Which reason was that, exactly?
I disagree with your assessment that you were not fishing.
Given that I hadn't responded to any other posts here at the point that you made this, why would you assume I wasn't going to address it?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Unvote Vote Iso
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you weren't answering my questions. That post was from my phone, and scrolling/switching pages on my phone is terrible in terms of preserving position and zoom-in level. Apologies.
Fair enough. I think there are other who are actively lurking and lurking outright. Why not them? Or, to retread my previous question: what other reasons did you have for voting MandersHex?
Miracule:
So you took on more than one gimmick. Were those gimmicks meant to portray the same character, or did you take on gimmicks of different characters?
MandersHex
I must have misread that, because I was asking why Iso was being scummy, and you directed me to a game in which you were scum and he was town. I don't follow that line of logic. Can you help me out there?
(I have yet to read all of that game, so if there is a particular salient part I should be looking at, that would help.)
I didn't mean you were becoming more emotional than Iso, but rather your play became markedly more emotional from your previous posts. I wasn't comparing you and he, but rather you to yourself. Sorry for the confusion there.
Because she's not scumhunting and I strongly felt this was not in line with her standard town play.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Another bold-faced lie.
Iso doesn't make slips like this when he's town. He's changing his story to fit the evidence.
Not in the least.
And that's overly defensive, another scumIso trait.
My point with him is he's acting like he did in a game when he was scum on another site that I cannot link to, but I also said that a strong piece of evidence is that he makes **** up/blows **** out of proportion to incriminate his target when he's scum. He said I was lurking in Peso del Grande. I said I was not. I've provided the resource to you.
My activity. I wasn't in it that long. I replaced out. I only have 68 posts, 11 of which took place after the game ended.
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, he's saying **** that's pissing me off. Accusations of lurking/not providing content piss me off. And he knows this.
LOL whatever.
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