2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I am really considering the policy lynch on Iso. I've seen him be scum SOOOO much, it's like mods are hard-casting him as scum because they don't want to see his pattern break. It was also hilarious seeing the comment in the Mason thread on Night 1 where they though Iso was confirmed town. I think that's where the town pretty much lost the game.
Policy lynch him if there's too many PRs and he's claimed one of them.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Are you talking about my vote against you in day one?
If so, it was because I was having a hard time finding something scummy that no one has brought up yet.
nope your suggestion that Fox or I be the nightkill night 1 before Iso said shoot the Masons.
That was me. And it was a plan to create the false precedent that perhaps the masons were actually scum and it was all a gambit. Iso wanted to take a different approach and nightkill IB. Since he is the better player, I just went with his plan. It worked.
Woha, that was fast. Although it is coming from someone who has his share in town loss in this game I have to say town screwed up the last day. How could you lynch Arniria so fast without even thinking about it?
And sorry, Kahedron, I really believed you are scum. You were my most wrong read in this game.
I'm surprised I didn't get lynched sooner. I was at L-2. I claimed Vanilla. That should've been the end of me.
Vitek, part of the reason why your lynch went through besides the VT L-2 claim was because of your blatant OMGUS on me and constant backpedaling - I really am sorry you found the game un-fun, though.
But yeah, just a heads-up for all you up-and-coming scum teams, confirmed town members are powerful in LyoL for the town. Kill them ASAP unless you have a PR to deal with.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Vitek, part of the reason why your lynch went through besides the VT L-2 claim was because of your blatant OMGUS on me and constant backpedaling - I really am sorry you found the game un-fun, though.
But yeah, just a heads-up for all you up-and-coming scum teams, confirmed town members are powerful in LyoL for the town. Kill them ASAP unless you have a PR to deal with.
You were scummy enough to be useful to them but not to scummy that getting rid of you was a must. + with out a cop in the game unless you were a power role you weren't going to get confirmed as town.
Also the day we were going to lynch you we had a sudden left turn into a Luck Norris meltdown.
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You probably got lucky that LN was lurking so hard - I think that's the biggest reason attention shifted to him, especially because we were waiting for him so much with his list and all that lovely stuff.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You probably got lucky that LN was lurking so hard - I think that's the biggest reason attention shifted to him, especially because we were waiting for him so much with his list and all that lovely stuff.
Being a mod is tough work. It's a voluntary gig and you have to balance school/work on top of it. Plus social activities. And precious, precious sleep.
I don't think I could've played mafia when I was a mod.
That was me. And it was a plan to create the false precedent that perhaps the masons were actually scum and it was all a gambit. Iso wanted to take a different approach and nightkill IB. Since he is the better player, I just went with his plan. It worked.
Once you had admitted to picking up on the breadcrumb and your T/S list that would not have flown for the same reasons why your claim to have doctored Foxlet was so unbelievable with out her saying no one targeted her.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and start slitting throats.
- H.L Mencken
I Became insane with long Intervals of horrible Sanity
All Religion, my friend is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination and poetry.
- Edgar Allan Poe
I keep kicking myself, the more Iso kept talking the more I just kept getting scum vibes from him...and I was getting so frustrated that I couldn't prove it. When Iso targeted me that night, I was pretty sure at that point he was scum.
Arn, you did claim vanilla and Qfish was pretty scummy compared to you. I would have found you less in my radar had you played the entire game I think. Like I said in the game, when you claimed VT I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the time being.
I KNEW there were too many PR for the town...Mr trying to teach me about game set up and balance So I find out, Masons are usuallythe equivalent of information roles. Therefore, you would not have a snoop/cop/tracker type role and a mason in a small set up as a rule. Too much information if you know what I'm saying.
Anyway, good game you guys. I know there was more to say...I'll probably think of it later
Oh aside from, yeah...I couldn't decide on weather or not to totally spill on my role info. For some reason, I thought it was a good idea at the time vs lying about it. I can't remember what my reasoning was at that moment In retrospect I probably should have lied and said I was totally untargetable Make Iso test it out once more, or just have him assume I'm lying and get NK for it
I KNEW there were too many PR for the town...Mr trying to teach me about game set up and balance So I find out, Masons are usuallythe equivalent of information roles. Therefore, you would not have a snoop/cop/tracker type role and a mason in a small set up as a rule. Too much information if you know what I'm saying.
This is why I didn't mention anything about that at all.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I can go back and look for specific examples if you'd like
Basically in general, it was I knew even with my halfassed fuzzy mafia game balancing theory, that in this set up that your role was probably overkill for town.
It felt wrong with the masons and you (I didn't realize until after that masons are considered info roles). It just felt like it was "too much" info based on the game set ups I've seen. It wasn't something I could put a finger on...again until afterwards and read into it more
It's why I kept saying IF you were town, the scum would had to have 2 PR, because that's A LOT to counter balance. When I mentioned that your PR was overkill for a town, you just kinda went "ah it's because they are all weak"...so it's ok that scum have 1 PR (nice inside info spill there )... Then Wheaties agreed with you. I couldn't picture any set up that had that much power on the town side, and only one PR on the scum side. My first thought was Iso+Wheat = Scum...then...naw. Then I was thinking, WTF kind of games have you played with unbalanced set ups like that! But it made more sense with 3 town PR and 1 scum The point here is...when we were talking you always ignored the nitpicky game mechanical aspect...ones which normally you would point out. It was a huge red flag to me.
I'm really surprised no other experienced player (Kah or Wheaties) didn't picked up on you LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH. It's why I kinda gave up, I was thinking, well...maybe I'm wrong...I mean, they've been around and would know about the mason = info role thing I'd think.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I OMGUSed you? When? I don't remember it. I clearly OMGUSed Kahedron and partialy Gricky but I don't remember OMGUSing you.
You voted me at some point IIRC just because of my attack on you.
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I got angry for it and for fact some of you really seemed to take me for idiot (I still thing that) and left for a few days (which was bad and I am sorry for it) and then it was nothing I could do after that and it certainly doesn't help to enjoy the game. I followed it 'til end, though.
We don't think you're an idiot, though, dude! I was just able to convince the town that you were obvious scum with the help of Gricky. We appreciate that you stuck it out, though.
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2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I knew Gricky and I were masons, Foxlet had already kind of breadcrumbed, and you were breadcrumbing ANOTHER town PR. I didn't think Foxlet was experienced enough (especially as scum) to breadcrumb a fake PR, so I knew it would be you.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
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I actually wouldn't mind a notification myself. I just might buy a copy.
Policy lynch him if there's too many PRs and he's claimed one of them.
Hope you like being thrown under a bus then.
Everyone, since you're a damned good player.
Actually, I'm probably going to steer away from Basics for a while unless the host requests I play in it.
Busing - it works!
The only time people have carried my reads out postmortem were when I was wrong.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Are you talking about my vote against you in day one?
If so, it was because I was having a hard time finding something scummy that no one has brought up yet.
- H.L Mencken
I Became insane with long Intervals of horrible Sanity
All Religion, my friend is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination and poetry.
- Edgar Allan Poe
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That was LN (LuckNorris).
That was me. And it was a plan to create the false precedent that perhaps the masons were actually scum and it was all a gambit. Iso wanted to take a different approach and nightkill IB. Since he is the better player, I just went with his plan. It worked.
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I'm surprised I didn't get lynched sooner. I was at L-2. I claimed Vanilla. That should've been the end of me.
But yeah, just a heads-up for all you up-and-coming scum teams, confirmed town members are powerful in LyoL for the town. Kill them ASAP unless you have a PR to deal with.
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Iso, can you explain why my lynch was averted?
Also the day we were going to lynch you we had a sudden left turn into a Luck Norris meltdown.
- H.L Mencken
I Became insane with long Intervals of horrible Sanity
All Religion, my friend is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination and poetry.
- Edgar Allan Poe
The Crafters' Rules Guru
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Being a mod is tough work. It's a voluntary gig and you have to balance school/work on top of it. Plus social activities. And precious, precious sleep.
I don't think I could've played mafia when I was a mod.
Once you had admitted to picking up on the breadcrumb and your T/S list that would not have flown for the same reasons why your claim to have doctored Foxlet was so unbelievable with out her saying no one targeted her.
- H.L Mencken
I Became insane with long Intervals of horrible Sanity
All Religion, my friend is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination and poetry.
- Edgar Allan Poe
The Crafters' Rules Guru
Arn, you did claim vanilla and Qfish was pretty scummy compared to you. I would have found you less in my radar had you played the entire game I think. Like I said in the game, when you claimed VT I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for the time being.
I KNEW there were too many PR for the town...Mr trying to teach me about game set up and balance So I find out, Masons are usuallythe equivalent of information roles. Therefore, you would not have a snoop/cop/tracker type role and a mason in a small set up as a rule. Too much information if you know what I'm saying.
Anyway, good game you guys. I know there was more to say...I'll probably think of it later
Oh aside from, yeah...I couldn't decide on weather or not to totally spill on my role info. For some reason, I thought it was a good idea at the time vs lying about it. I can't remember what my reasoning was at that moment In retrospect I probably should have lied and said I was totally untargetable Make Iso test it out once more, or just have him assume I'm lying and get NK for it
This is why I didn't mention anything about that at all.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
That's what kept pissing me off about your responses.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Basically in general, it was I knew even with my halfassed fuzzy mafia game balancing theory, that in this set up that your role was probably overkill for town.
It felt wrong with the masons and you (I didn't realize until after that masons are considered info roles). It just felt like it was "too much" info based on the game set ups I've seen. It wasn't something I could put a finger on...again until afterwards and read into it more
It's why I kept saying IF you were town, the scum would had to have 2 PR, because that's A LOT to counter balance. When I mentioned that your PR was overkill for a town, you just kinda went "ah it's because they are all weak"...so it's ok that scum have 1 PR (nice inside info spill there )... Then Wheaties agreed with you. I couldn't picture any set up that had that much power on the town side, and only one PR on the scum side. My first thought was Iso+Wheat = Scum...then...naw. Then I was thinking, WTF kind of games have you played with unbalanced set ups like that! But it made more sense with 3 town PR and 1 scum The point here is...when we were talking you always ignored the nitpicky game mechanical aspect...ones which normally you would point out. It was a huge red flag to me.
I'm really surprised no other experienced player (Kah or Wheaties) didn't picked up on you LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH. It's why I kinda gave up, I was thinking, well...maybe I'm wrong...I mean, they've been around and would know about the mason = info role thing I'd think.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Yeah, you did. You even told everyone...how much you lie and change your role info to "fit", but no one listened.
Oh yeah...fully advocate Iso Lynch in all games going forward
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You voted me at some point IIRC just because of my attack on you.
We don't think you're an idiot, though, dude! I was just able to convince the town that you were obvious scum with the help of Gricky. We appreciate that you stuck it out, though.
I knew you would turn on me. Which is why you had to die. ;D
Why did you think I was likely scum?
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player