I"m seeing a lot of nothing with the past... 27 posts or so (page 4 entirely on 50ppp). There's not a lot of content in the first place.
I'm also not sure what we have to gain with this whole 'vote me/don't vote me' thing.
We gain a grasp of who wants to be commander. That in itself should be telling in this game.
The question is more what we do with it. (Besides at this point apparently deciding if we enable kpaca to be vig :rolleyes:)
It does amuse me, as the mod of the roleplaying forum, that I garnered a vote simply for role playing.
Votes for you are WIFOM based on gaming the mod. Would Guardman put the poison in the cup in front of us all, or the cup farthest from us all? Its the definition of that acronym.
I think it more boils down to would the set-up make for a more interesting game with 9 "traitors," or 3, if that makes sense. Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? This is the reason I wish I had gotten your role (Ender Wiggin). It would make this whole set-up easier to grasp, as you're the only one with perfect knowledge of the answer to what I just stated. I hate being this uninformed (and frankly, this is a pretty high-calibre game).
As for me being commander? I'm already it. I don't think I particularly need to be voted into it, though. My ability is hit or miss.
Observation: AsianI seems to want to partner up with kpaca, who is claiming vig (if given permission). Wouldn't scum do this to assure the player they are partnering with wouldn't shoot them? More theory-crafting than accusation; anyone can answer this.
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A lynch is a majority vote. A daykill is a second lynch, or maybe a vig shot where the vig actually listens - not a vig shot when the vig just does whatever he feels like. The fact that you append the disclaimer about kpaca's wilfulness means that you don't even have confidence in your own plan. Why should any of the rest of us?
I'm also not sure what we have to gain with this whole 'vote me/don't vote me' thing.
We gain a grasp of who wants to be commander. That in itself should be telling in this game.
The question is more what we do with it. (Besides at this point apparently deciding if we enable kpaca to be vig :rolleyes:)
It's only telling to the scum. That's actually the downside to this claim. The upside, which I hope is worth it, is so we have a better idea who to vote tonight. Basically, townies should not vote anyone who says they don't want to be Commander. Also, we need to vote unilaterally (after establishing a majority of intent) to ensure the scum don't interfere. I'm going to start a running Commander vote count, anyone can feel free to maintain it.
Observation: AsianI seems to want to partner up with kpaca, who is claiming vig (if given permission). Wouldn't scum do this to assure the player they are partnering with wouldn't shoot them? More theory-crafting than accusation; anyone can answer this.
Replacing in for wheat grinder.... of course I already look scummy.
I see artifice fishing on page 3. Kpaca being Kpaca.
AI being a good player and questioning the hate for Nai, like me at this point.
Dan active lurking page 4. Kpaca actually posting? What is this... Thank god for library's. It also seems artifice has a problem with claiming if so needed be? Also saying that Kpaca and AI aren't friends
AI and Kpaca buddy up some more. Not necessarily a bad thing.
Page 5 has Zindabad driving by. I agree with this post:
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In all seriousness, if you were town you would not wave your role around like an erect *****, hoping it will save you from getting lynched or vigged. Ergo, scum.
And why is dan doing this? *sigh*
Your posting all day has been way too scummy. Especially that post.
Not sure how I feel about Artifice or Kpaca right now either.
Vote ganderin_dan
Ahhh.... why do you do this to me wheat?
Sepiriel drives by and just says he wants a Kpaca commander and is shocked at RVS length. Why? Did you want it to go longer? Also, why the fence sit?
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Do I need to tell you how awful this vote is, or should I let you do it?
Oh, I know it is. I apologize for my previous user.
Flew is a smart guy. Even if he is voting me on page 5.
Page 6 everyone is jumping on my predecessor and I won't lie, I would have too. Dan is crumbling under some pressure.
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My problem is that kpaca IS TOO COOL TO LISTEN TO ANY OF US
hahaha
Emo jumps in (where has this guy been) and just lazily says he doesn't believe Kpaca. What is he lying about specifically?
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Lack of content is due to this thread being up for very little time so far and me having trouble posting content early game, every game.
Uh oh.
:facepalm::facepalm:
Ah crap it's happening again. It's gotta be a new record this time.
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
As far as any other content, right now I have g_d as scum for those terribly scummy posts, am beginning to be of the opinion that kpaca is leaning town. Lastly, I don't like AI's post on voting me in exchange for kpaca vigging g_d. It does not sit right with me, and not just because the vote's pointed at me.
No RVS vote. Even though the point is irrelevant at this point. Dying of the common cold go figure. (I may get a bump up to pneumonia!)
Really Infinis? You have NOTHING to comment on 6 pages in with multiple accusations?
Page # lucky 7 opens with some GREAT WIFOM from Dan. YAAAAY!
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I think Seppel is a pretty cool guy. eh lynches sucms and doesn’t afraid of anything…
NO. YOU JUST DIDN'T? YOU WATCH ARBY N THE CHIEF? I LOVE YOU AI. Just for that you gain some more town cred.
Nai doesn't take the pressure from Kpaca the best way possible. Could have been worse but still...
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@artifice:
My uselessness> Your usefullness
lol I agree
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Nai's first post was the atomic bomb of WIFOM RP.
Vote: Nai
This guy man... Oh man. Could you be any scummier?
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I should be made commander in only one instance, so please no votes for me.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bread crumbing that he is a powerless townie.
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I don't think Infinis should ever be made commander.
Agreed.
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Everyone should indicate whether they feel they should be Commander.
I actually think I would be a good choice. My commander doesn't kill anyone but is very useful for the town. I'd rather elect a non kill commander.
Flew says he doesn't want commander. That makes me sad. I liked him being commander.
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I'll pass on commandership.
Ahh he is so nooby sometimes.
Infinis jumps in, unvotes Nai, then votes him again. Oh god.
So Emo finally comes back in, mostly /barns, and votes one of the towniest players (AI). Oh and then he wants commander role. Nice try man.
Also, who the hell is ice man and why did he just post?
Page 9 Art is cool with commander. I'm not 100% on him yet.
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I skim the flavor posts because they are flavor.
Unvote
My mind is reeling from the mod directly confirming any information other than setup in Post 1.
What? Why are you doing nothing this game?
Oh apparently he is sick.
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Get well soon, Infinis.
Emo_Pinata: Yes
Nai: Yes (I feel like this is close to mod-confirmed town, what does everyone else think?)
AI: Yes
Everyone else: No
I'm changing to a "yes"
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Beginning to reconsider my town read on Artifice 101 because he is not really doing anything, just posting walls of blah.
Exactly
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Just because it was said that this game will not be played with guns does not necessarily mean that guns will not be used at all. I interpret it as that guns are not the main weapon as they usually are in the Battle Room, but that does not mean they don't exist.
LETS ALL FLAVOR GAME! YEAH!!
Sepiriel says yes on commander. I like Sepiriel more than Art at this point.
Emo drives through and gets some fries and a shake.
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Wheat, you seem to insist a lot on this "No guns" thing. If you read the entirety of the flavour, it simply means that we're playing Mafia, and not a first-person shooter.
Is there a clue that leads you to think it could be that important? Or are you just trying to start an useless debate that spread confusion across the town?
/confirm vote
I fully agree to this, even though it is against me.
Yay Zindabad is back (?) And he wan't to be commander. Nice try, better luck next time.
YAY! I appear.
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Hey PF! Nice to play with you
You too man, long time no see around here!
Nai comes back and posts gibberish.
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Replacing into a scum role under pressure is no fun. Sorry that we have to lynch you.
Please add me to the list and although I think Flew is a great candidate, he chose to not be on there so I vote for Sepiriel.
To lock ourselves in a single vote i think is dangerous as it becomes easy for the scum to manipulate the results.
Disagree.
I think the opposite, Sep. If we don't unify our votes, it'll be easiest for the scum to sway the vote in any given direction. Divided we fall.
Agree.
As for me, i think about voting Zindabad since he is the player I find the towniest among the candidates.
Reaaaly? You want to give it to that lurker?
Sorry for huge post I hope it helps a bit. I will Unvote, vote Infinis for lurking, posting crap, voting Nai then unvoting and revoting him only to make his next post all about unvoting him again.
What relevance does this have to what I said? I understand the meaning of the saying, before you think that's the issue. I'm asking you why you would recommend a plan that you don't even think will work. Because we can "lead kpaca to water", i.e. suggest a vig target for him, but we can't "make him drink", i.e. shoot that target? OK. What I say to that is "buy a different horse that might actually do what you tell it to." And we have that option.
I don't want a vig operational at all (unless we catch someone through night actions, like in D3 of Amistarian) and I especially don't want a vig who doesn't listen to consensus.
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That last post from pinkfloyd was a joke, right? Except for the Infinis bit. I could see it. I have to say I really didn't care for the repeated and over-the-top deprecation of Wheat. That sounded like an attempt to justify the pressure on him, which wouldn't be a townie's reaction to replacing in for someone scummy. See YT in Doha. I came in for basically everyone's top scum pick, ignored everything he'd done, and played my own game.
No I didn't spend 2 days of reading and 3 hours of typing on a joke post. I don't like to try that hard at comedy.
Except for the Infinis bit. I could see it.
Thank god something got through
I have to say I really didn't care for the repeated and over-the-top deprecation of Wheat. That sounded like an attempt to justify the pressure on him, which wouldn't be a townie's reaction to replacing in for someone scummy. See YT in Doha. I came in for basically everyone's top scum pick, ignored everything he'd done, and played my own game.
Maybe I'm just slightly pissed off I had to replace in for a bad player when I have wanted to be in this game from the start?
I don't want a vig operational at all (unless we catch someone through night actions, like in D3 of Amistarian) and I especially don't want a vig who doesn't listen to consensus.
ou call out a number of other people throughout your post, then you specifically vote for someone who (supposedly) made a mistake by not reading the entirety of the first post. What makes you think Infinis is any more scummy than anyone else?
What relevance does this have to what I said? I understand the meaning of the saying, before you think that's the issue. I'm asking you why you would recommend a plan that you don't even think will work. Because we can "lead kpaca to water", i.e. suggest a vig target for him, but we can't "make him drink", i.e. shoot that target? OK. What I say to that is "buy a different horse that might actually do what you tell it to." And we have that option.
Then again, sometimes the horse knows it's not thirsty.
I don't want a vig operational at all (unless we catch someone through night actions, like in D3 of Amistarian) and I especially don't want a vig who doesn't listen to consensus.
*grumble grumble* OK. I guess I'll vote for you then.
That last post from pinkfloyd was a joke, right? Except for the Infinis bit. I could see it. I have to say I really didn't care for the repeated and over-the-top deprecation of Wheat. That sounded like an attempt to justify the pressure on him, which wouldn't be a townie's reaction to replacing in for someone scummy. See YT in Doha. I came in for basically everyone's top scum pick, ignored everything he'd done, and played my own game.
I didn't even read his post, I just saw all the emotes and wanted to vote him even harder.
ou call out a number of other people throughout your post, then you specifically vote for someone who (supposedly) made a mistake by not reading the entirety of the first post. What makes you think Infinis is any more scummy than anyone else?
Because he is lurking and all he has posted is votes or unvotes for Nai. Lynch all lurkers.
I didn't even read his post, I just saw all the emotes and wanted to vote him even harder.
I didn't even read his post, I just saw all the emotes and wanted to vote him even harder.
Unvote; Vote AsianI
Anyone that has every played with AI knows he uses lots of emotes. Why in the world would he ignore a post filled with them to simply tunnel on the role's previous owner?
Plus the cryptic answers to zindabad, plus the buddying up to the claimed vig.
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Sepiriel drives by and just says he wants a Kpaca commander and is shocked at RVS length. Why? Did you want it to go longer? Also, why the fence sit?
Wait what? when did i want Kpaca as commander???? And when did i say i wanted the RVS longer? i hate RVS i actually killed it in post #9 for which im actually quite proud since i think its the shortest RVS i have seen in a while.
And what fence sit?
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As for the vote: I suppose we have a difference in opinion there, i don't want to paint a huge bullseye on the person with the most assured votes on, what i want to do though is each new day make a tally of who voted who, we cross check on whether the votes account for the people who said would be voting for that person, see the inconsistencies (in both the voting and the stances) and perhaps lynch from that list, yes we would have a bigger margin of error but i think its safer for the would be commander.
@Flew: town has totally something to hide, we most certainly don't want some of the commander roles to be out in the open or any non-commander PR for that matter.
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Wait what? when did i want Kpaca as commander???? And when did i say i wanted the RVS longer? i hate RVS i actually killed it in post #9 for which im actually quite proud since i think its the shortest RVS i have seen in a while.
And what fence sit?
Sorry, that you DON'T want Kpaca as commander!
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unvote, i cannot believe i actually killed the RVS 6 posts in
My question was whether you wanted it to go longer, not that you said it did. This quote shows that you were shocked at RVS ending and I was asking why you cared?
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don't know what to say about dan, the amount of attention he is attracting seems contradicting to what i would expect scum to be doing but i haven't played with him before so that is making me take pause.
Good, so how do YOU feel about kpaca at this point in time?
My question was whether you wanted it to go longer, not that you said it did. This quote shows that you were shocked at RVS ending and I was asking why you cared?
Because i wasn't expecting it to actually end that quickly, which made me pleasantly surprised since i have a serious distaste for the RVS so to see it end so quickly and by my own hand was like an early Christmas for me really.
F-F-F-F-FENCE SIT!
Debatable i already addressed that accusation before so you can simply go look back on it if you so wish.
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Good, so how do YOU feel about kpaca at this point in time?
He could well be town and a vig type PR but I don't want a killing role to be commander.
Because i wasn't expecting it to actually end that quickly, which made me pleasantly surprised since i have a serious distaste for the RVS so to see it end so quickly and by my own hand was like an early Christmas for me really.
Can I haz cookies and milk?
Debatable i already addressed that accusation before so you can simply go look back on it if you so wish.
I read it but it was still fence sitting in my eyes
He could well be town and a vig type PR but I don't want a killing role to be commander.
Hilariously enough this argument can be poked with the fencesit stick just as easily as mine.
Can I haz cookies and milk?
I can give you but i dont think we have a milk emoticon.
I read it but it was still fence sitting in my eyes
well since you read it i dont really see the point of arguing further unless you have anything further to elaborate on besides the fence sit shout, you are entitled to your opinion and I to mine, that we disagree on that is regreatable but hopefully not enough to retract your vote of me for commander
As for who im willing to vote for commander right now im ok with either Emo or Artifice as commanders, if floyd runs i could add him to my list of possible votes.
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Hilariously enough this argument can be poked with the fencesit stick just as easily as mine.
Oh no I think he is town, I'm just unsure of the vig part.
well since you read it i dont really see the point of arguing further unless you have anything further to elaborate on besides the fence sit shout, you are entitled to your opinion and I to mine, that we disagree on that is regreatable but hopefully not enough to retract your vote of me for commander
Oh no you are still my favorite choice for commander
As for who im willing to vote for commander right now im ok with either Emo or Artifice as commanders, if floyd runs i could add him to my list of possible votes.
I REALLY don't want Emo as commander. Art would be my next choice and yes I am running.
I'm getting really sick today, not in the mood to play a lot.
However, a few remarks :
Pinkfloyd ventilated almost all the suspicions I had on his predecessor. Since he read everything he's shown to be analysing and helpful.
However, I have to say that I don't like the table tennis game between him and Sepiriel. When this happens D1, it's often a town-town match. And I don't have a scum read on Sepiriel.
I haven't done a lot of analysis due to my tiredness, but that would come as soon as I can. That's it for today.
I saw your question and am ignoring it because that's such a dumb question. What do you expect me to do? Tell you that my purposefully WIFOM statement isn't WIFOM? It is. On purpose. I'm sure this causes you more WIFOM. Now please defend this terrible leap in logic you are making.
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Look guys, I swear to god this is not a gambit, and I am dead serious. I'm vanilla town, but if I become commander I become vig. I say we make me commander day 1 when vigging is still useful.
I mean if nothing else I'll probably soak up a potential Roleblock because even if everyone posts that I should vig a town player the scum know I'll probably just vig a scum player instead.
I saw your question and am ignoring it because that's such a dumb question. What do you expect me to do? Tell you that my purposefully WIFOM statement isn't WIFOM? It is. On purpose. I'm sure this causes you more WIFOM. Now please defend this terrible leap in logic you are making.
This is where you state you won't answer direct questions and then directly admit its a WIFOM statement.
To the first part, yes I expect you to clarify what you meant as I'm suspecting a scummy motivation for the statement. Your refusal to restate and clarify what you meant isn't a townie way to behave.
To the second part, I don't see a leap of logic, I see you stating something that Mod posts contradict, be it flavor or otherwise. I don't know whether to think this a gambit or a scumslip. More input by you would help.
Oh wait, you're going to hide behind "I'm the Notoriously Stubborn K.P.A.C.A., I never cooperate."
Pretty sure Art just said nothing with that last wall.
At passing glance, I dislike PF's catchup post. Would be much easier to follow along
The exchange between Sep & PF makes me think Sep more town. Still not seeing anything drastic out of PF to change that view (although I always think he's scummy).
Hope EP's replacement doesn't decide to give out any role info.
Pretty sure Art just said nothing with that last wall.
I'm pretty sure Arti' answered a question AND askedrepeated an unanswered question of a potential suspect (kpaca) since you ambiguously do not quote or mention the post number. Reading is tech
If I had two votes, my second would be on you for active lurking.
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Well I was hoping it would make people read the whole thing, not just quotes related to themselves so they could get a better stance on my alignment.
Problem with this is that people have their settings not necessarily the same way as you (for example i have the setting at max so 60ppp meaning theres only like 4 pages for me), so when you suddenly go "In page 5 (at 50ppp) i found xyz...." it means i have to go around to fixing my settings (either that or calculating what post numberings equate to what for you is page 5 at 50ppp), checking the desired page (or post range) try to find the post you may or may not be referencing (what happens if theres multiple posts by a person in that page?) and then fix back my settings to my previous settings before making a reply.
Now i know you want people to check other posts but making it a pain in the ass to cross check is not the way to do this, if anything you doing this ensures i will NOT be dealing with that crap since its way too much of a pain.
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Problem with this is that people have their settings not necessarily the same way as you (for example i have the setting at max so 60ppp meaning theres only like 4 pages for me), so when you suddenly go "In page 5 (at 50ppp) i found xyz...." it means i have to go around to fixing my settings (either that or calculating what post numberings equate to what for you is page 5 at 50ppp), checking the desired page (or post range) try to find the post you may or may not be referencing (what happens if theres multiple posts by a person in that page?) and then fix back my settings to my previous settings before making a reply.
Now i know you want people to check other posts but making it a pain in the ass to cross check is not the way to do this, if anything you doing this ensures i will NOT be dealing with that crap since its way too much of a pain.
Oh yeah I forgot about the page settings thing...
Well if anyone wants me to provide the quotes for my readings I can do so.
....what I meant was that after people have read it (I hope everyone has?) if they would like to dispute or bring something up specifically (like you have previously Sepiriel) I'm happy to provide the quotes and a deeper response.
That is a complete representation of your horrid post. Please respond to your terrible leap in logic, without IGNORING the blunt force response I have picked up and used to smash said leap in logic. You are still supporting this leap despite the fact that I have repeatedly put up a big flashing sign pointing you to the gaping hole in this EP argument.
Also you want me to clarify a statement I admit is WIFOM? I thought you understood what I was saying last time, but here let me clarify: No. If I had wanted a clarified statement I would have typed that out instead of that huge WIFOM statement. Maybe if you stop acting like you have rabies and instead sit and think for a minute the world of mafia will make sense to you?
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How about you address my points in the larger post above?
Here it is for posterity! Me destroying the stupid "herf derf ur lying cause gunz!" derf that's going on here. You have continued to ignore this. I can only assume you are scum or being purposefully dense because you are biased towards the opposite from what I do. Either way you are quite wrong so I suppose it's no wonder your only defense has been to turn on your ignorator.
If you really are the vig, I'm probably never going to vote for you. It's not because you're kpaca and we're supposed to fight, or anything like that - we're way past that now, and I actually quite like playing with you in games where you contribute - but I really am serious about this "no viggings in minis" thing.
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Well I respect your opinion but I still think I should get to shoot somebody tonight. Night 1 is really the only time to make use of my shot imo, and to be honest I have no desire to shoot after night 1. I've shot enough people in my time that all my shots from now on can be srs business
What relevance does this have to what I said? I understand the meaning of the saying, before you think that's the issue. I'm asking you why you would recommend a plan that you don't even think will work. Because we can "lead kpaca to water", i.e. suggest a vig target for him, but we can't "make him drink", i.e. shoot that target? OK. What I say to that is "buy a different horse that might actually do what you tell it to." And we have that option.
I don't want a vig operational at all (unless we catch someone through night actions, like in D3 of Amistarian) and I especially don't want a vig who doesn't listen to consensus.
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That last post from pinkfloyd was a joke, right? Except for the Infinis bit. I could see it. I have to say I really didn't care for the repeated and over-the-top deprecation of Wheat. That sounded like an attempt to justify the pressure on him, which wouldn't be a townie's reaction to replacing in for someone scummy. See YT in Doha. I came in for basically everyone's top scum pick, ignored everything he'd done, and played my own game.
Now to be fair you can't prove that I won't do what you tell me.
I don't think Artifice 101 is scum. I think he'd be more buddy-buddy and scared to confront you (and me) if he was.
So...Nai. Why are you scum?
I don't think Artifice 101 is scum either. But he's certainly moving toward that way. Really you guys probably shouldn't give me a vig shot if you want Artifice 101 to survive.
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There's been a lot of discussion about this whole "post #'s instead of page #'s" which didn't help at all.
Aside of that, the discussions haven't been that much interesting.
Infinis is probably the least helpful player that played in this game. I even had a hard time finding out he's playing. Only a few little barning posts.
Watcha think about this game Infinis ?
Zindabad has fewer posts, but those are more contentful.
Zinda, Pinkfloyd and Sepiriel are town. Kpaca is Kpaca. EP is likely town but I'll see with the replacement.
I still can't quite see why Nai is that much attacked.
Infinis is probably the least helpful player that played in this game. I even had a hard time finding out he's playing. Only a few little barning posts.
The question is more what we do with it. (Besides at this point apparently deciding if we enable kpaca to be vig :rolleyes:)
Votes for you are WIFOM based on gaming the mod. Would Guardman put the poison in the cup in front of us all, or the cup farthest from us all? Its the definition of that acronym.
I think it more boils down to would the set-up make for a more interesting game with 9 "traitors," or 3, if that makes sense. Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? This is the reason I wish I had gotten your role (Ender Wiggin). It would make this whole set-up easier to grasp, as you're the only one with perfect knowledge of the answer to what I just stated. I hate being this uninformed (and frankly, this is a pretty high-calibre game).
Observation: AsianI seems to want to partner up with kpaca, who is claiming vig (if given permission). Wouldn't scum do this to assure the player they are partnering with wouldn't shoot them? More theory-crafting than accusation; anyone can answer this.
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You can lead a horse to water...
Replacing into a scum role under pressure is no fun. Sorry that we have to lynch you.
It's only telling to the scum. That's actually the downside to this claim. The upside, which I hope is worth it, is so we have a better idea who to vote tonight. Basically, townies should not vote anyone who says they don't want to be Commander. Also, we need to vote unilaterally (after establishing a majority of intent) to ensure the scum don't interfere. I'm going to start a running Commander vote count, anyone can feel free to maintain it.
Commander Vote Count
kpaca (1): AsianInvasion
Emo_Pinata (0):
Artifice 101 (0):
Sepiriel (0):
zindabad (0):
Not Voting (11): Infinis, Artifice 101, Nai, Emo_Pinata, Sepiriel, zindabad, Flew, pinkfloyd, ganderin_dan, TheIceMan, kpaca
You have no idea.
To lock ourselves in a single vote i think is dangerous as it becomes easy for the scum to manipulate the results.
Malus point for Sepiriel.
As for me, i think about voting Zindabad since he is the player I find the towniest among the candidates.
[The Family] pressed the "lynch" button, thinking it was labeled "lunch" .
I see artifice fishing on page 3. Kpaca being Kpaca.
AI being a good player and questioning the hate for Nai, like me at this point.
Dan active lurking page 4. Kpaca actually posting? What is this... Thank god for library's. It also seems artifice has a problem with claiming if so needed be? Also saying that Kpaca and AI aren't friends
AI and Kpaca buddy up some more. Not necessarily a bad thing.
Page 5 has Zindabad driving by. I agree with this post:
And why is dan doing this? *sigh*
Ahhh.... why do you do this to me wheat?
Sepiriel drives by and just says he wants a Kpaca commander and is shocked at RVS length. Why? Did you want it to go longer? Also, why the fence sit?
Oh, I know it is. I apologize for my previous user.
Flew is a smart guy. Even if he is voting me on page 5.
Page 6 everyone is jumping on my predecessor and I won't lie, I would have too. Dan is crumbling under some pressure.
hahaha
Emo jumps in (where has this guy been) and just lazily says he doesn't believe Kpaca. What is he lying about specifically?
:facepalm::facepalm:
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Just /barning everything. I hate you wheat.
Really Infinis? You have NOTHING to comment on 6 pages in with multiple accusations?
Page # lucky 7 opens with some GREAT WIFOM from Dan. YAAAAY!
NO. YOU JUST DIDN'T? YOU WATCH ARBY N THE CHIEF? I LOVE YOU AI. Just for that you gain some more town cred.
Nai doesn't take the pressure from Kpaca the best way possible. Could have been worse but still...
lol I agree
This guy man... Oh man. Could you be any scummier?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bread crumbing that he is a powerless townie.
Agreed.
I actually think I would be a good choice. My commander doesn't kill anyone but is very useful for the town. I'd rather elect a non kill commander.
Flew says he doesn't want commander. That makes me sad. I liked him being commander.
Ahh he is so nooby sometimes.
Infinis jumps in, unvotes Nai, then votes him again. Oh god.
So Emo finally comes back in, mostly /barns, and votes one of the towniest players (AI). Oh and then he wants commander role. Nice try man.
Also, who the hell is ice man and why did he just post?
Page 9 Art is cool with commander. I'm not 100% on him yet.
What? Why are you doing nothing this game?
Oh apparently he is sick.
I'm changing to a "yes"
Exactly
LETS ALL FLAVOR GAME! YEAH!!
Sepiriel says yes on commander. I like Sepiriel more than Art at this point.
Emo drives through and gets some fries and a shake.
I fully agree to this, even though it is against me.
Yay Zindabad is back (?) And he wan't to be commander. Nice try, better luck next time.
YAY! I appear.
You too man, long time no see around here!
Nai comes back and posts gibberish.
Its cool I do well under pressure.
Please add me to the list and although I think Flew is a great candidate, he chose to not be on there so I vote for Sepiriel.
Disagree.
Agree.
Reaaaly? You want to give it to that lurker?
Sorry for huge post I hope it helps a bit. I will Unvote, vote Infinis for lurking, posting crap, voting Nai then unvoting and revoting him only to make his next post all about unvoting him again.
Oh man.
LOL
What relevance does this have to what I said? I understand the meaning of the saying, before you think that's the issue. I'm asking you why you would recommend a plan that you don't even think will work. Because we can "lead kpaca to water", i.e. suggest a vig target for him, but we can't "make him drink", i.e. shoot that target? OK. What I say to that is "buy a different horse that might actually do what you tell it to." And we have that option.
I don't want a vig operational at all (unless we catch someone through night actions, like in D3 of Amistarian) and I especially don't want a vig who doesn't listen to consensus.
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That last post from pinkfloyd was a joke, right? Except for the Infinis bit. I could see it. I have to say I really didn't care for the repeated and over-the-top deprecation of Wheat. That sounded like an attempt to justify the pressure on him, which wouldn't be a townie's reaction to replacing in for someone scummy. See YT in Doha. I came in for basically everyone's top scum pick, ignored everything he'd done, and played my own game.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
No I didn't spend 2 days of reading and 3 hours of typing on a joke post. I don't like to try that hard at comedy.
Thank god something got through
Maybe I'm just slightly pissed off I had to replace in for a bad player when I have wanted to be in this game from the start?
I agree, 100%
LOL
My helpdesk should you need me.
Yup.
Then again, sometimes the horse knows it's not thirsty.
*grumble grumble* OK. I guess I'll vote for you then.
I didn't even read his post, I just saw all the emotes and wanted to vote him even harder.
Because he is lurking and all he has posted is votes or unvotes for Nai. Lynch all lurkers.
Cute!
LOL
Anyone that has every played with AI knows he uses lots of emotes. Why in the world would he ignore a post filled with them to simply tunnel on the role's previous owner?
Plus the cryptic answers to zindabad, plus the buddying up to the claimed vig.
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Wait what? when did i want Kpaca as commander???? And when did i say i wanted the RVS longer? i hate RVS i actually killed it in post #9 for which im actually quite proud since i think its the shortest RVS i have seen in a while.
And what fence sit?
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As for the vote: I suppose we have a difference in opinion there, i don't want to paint a huge bullseye on the person with the most assured votes on, what i want to do though is each new day make a tally of who voted who, we cross check on whether the votes account for the people who said would be voting for that person, see the inconsistencies (in both the voting and the stances) and perhaps lynch from that list, yes we would have a bigger margin of error but i think its safer for the would be commander.
@Flew: town has totally something to hide, we most certainly don't want some of the commander roles to be out in the open or any non-commander PR for that matter.
Sorry, that you DON'T want Kpaca as commander!
My question was whether you wanted it to go longer, not that you said it did. This quote shows that you were shocked at RVS ending and I was asking why you cared?
F-F-F-F-FENCE SIT!
LOL
Because i wasn't expecting it to actually end that quickly, which made me pleasantly surprised since i have a serious distaste for the RVS so to see it end so quickly and by my own hand was like an early Christmas for me really.
Debatable i already addressed that accusation before so you can simply go look back on it if you so wish.
He could well be town and a vig type PR but I don't want a killing role to be commander.
Can I haz cookies and milk?
I read it but it was still fence sitting in my eyes
LOL
I can give you but i dont think we have a milk emoticon.
well since you read it i dont really see the point of arguing further unless you have anything further to elaborate on besides the fence sit shout, you are entitled to your opinion and I to mine, that we disagree on that is regreatable but hopefully not enough to retract your vote of me for commander
As for who im willing to vote for commander right now im ok with either Emo or Artifice as commanders, if floyd runs i could add him to my list of possible votes.
Oh no I think he is town, I'm just unsure of the vig part.
Oh no you are still my favorite choice for commander
I REALLY don't want Emo as commander. Art would be my next choice and yes I am running.
LOL
I'm getting really sick today, not in the mood to play a lot.
However, a few remarks :
Pinkfloyd ventilated almost all the suspicions I had on his predecessor. Since he read everything he's shown to be analysing and helpful.
However, I have to say that I don't like the table tennis game between him and Sepiriel. When this happens D1, it's often a town-town match. And I don't have a scum read on Sepiriel.
I haven't done a lot of analysis due to my tiredness, but that would come as soon as I can. That's it for today.
[The Family] pressed the "lynch" button, thinking it was labeled "lunch" .
The curse.... it strikes again!!!
Well before you go to you think you can try and explain your huge leap in logic?
@Artifice class 1: Same question.
Top of post #122.
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This was Guardman giving us flavor
The flavor of which you say is using guns.
This is where you make a:
...statement, which I asked you to clarify.
This is where you state you won't answer direct questions and then directly admit its a WIFOM statement.
To the first part, yes I expect you to clarify what you meant as I'm suspecting a scummy motivation for the statement. Your refusal to restate and clarify what you meant isn't a townie way to behave.
To the second part, I don't see a leap of logic, I see you stating something that Mod posts contradict, be it flavor or otherwise. I don't know whether to think this a gambit or a scumslip. More input by you would help.
Oh wait, you're going to hide behind "I'm the Notoriously Stubborn K.P.A.C.A., I never cooperate."
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I expected more votes on pinkfloyd by now. Sadface. I guess I'll have to actually read his posts.
More votes for AsianI
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At passing glance, I dislike PF's catchup post. Would be much easier to follow along
The exchange between Sep & PF makes me think Sep more town. Still not seeing anything drastic out of PF to change that view (although I always think he's scummy).
Hope EP's replacement doesn't decide to give out any role info.
askedrepeated an unanswered question of a potential suspect (kpaca) since you ambiguously do not quote or mention the post number. Reading is techIf I had two votes, my second would be on you for active lurking.
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Well I was hoping it would make people read the whole thing, not just quotes related to themselves so they could get a better stance on my alignment.
LOL
Now i know you want people to check other posts but making it a pain in the ass to cross check is not the way to do this, if anything you doing this ensures i will NOT be dealing with that crap since its way too much of a pain.
Oh yeah I forgot about the page settings thing...
Well if anyone wants me to provide the quotes for my readings I can do so.
LOL
LOL
That is a complete representation of your horrid post. Please respond to your terrible leap in logic, without IGNORING the blunt force response I have picked up and used to smash said leap in logic. You are still supporting this leap despite the fact that I have repeatedly put up a big flashing sign pointing you to the gaping hole in this EP argument.
Also you want me to clarify a statement I admit is WIFOM? I thought you understood what I was saying last time, but here let me clarify: No. If I had wanted a clarified statement I would have typed that out instead of that huge WIFOM statement. Maybe if you stop acting like you have rabies and instead sit and think for a minute the world of mafia will make sense to you?
Here it is for posterity! Me destroying the stupid "herf derf ur lying cause gunz!" derf that's going on here. You have continued to ignore this. I can only assume you are scum or being purposefully dense because you are biased towards the opposite from what I do. Either way you are quite wrong so I suppose it's no wonder your only defense has been to turn on your ignorator.
Well I respect your opinion but I still think I should get to shoot somebody tonight. Night 1 is really the only time to make use of my shot imo, and to be honest I have no desire to shoot after night 1. I've shot enough people in my time that all my shots from now on can be srs business
You are part 2 of the scum team! Just know this when you consider your nightkill tonight. I am coming for you tomorrow!
Well you are wrong so reconsider.
Now to be fair you can't prove that I won't do what you tell me.
I totally get what you are doing here, and that's totally an awesome tactic, but pinkfloyd is the most town player in this game right now.
You serious, dude? ****.
I don't think Artifice 101 is scum. I think he'd be more buddy-buddy and scared to confront you (and me) if he was.
So...Nai. Why are you scum?
Oh?
BTW, Sep, that question I owed you was:
Have you ever played in a basic with a vig with good/bad results? What makes you hesitant to have an active one in this game?
I don't think Artifice 101 is scum either. But he's certainly moving toward that way. Really you guys probably shouldn't give me a vig shot if you want Artifice 101 to survive.
Aside of that, the discussions haven't been that much interesting.
Infinis is probably the least helpful player that played in this game. I even had a hard time finding out he's playing. Only a few little barning posts.
Watcha think about this game Infinis ?
Zindabad has fewer posts, but those are more contentful.
Zinda, Pinkfloyd and Sepiriel are town. Kpaca is Kpaca. EP is likely town but I'll see with the replacement.
I still can't quite see why Nai is that much attacked.
[The Family] pressed the "lynch" button, thinking it was labeled "lunch" .
/barn
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