My role PM is silly. It says I win with the town even though it tells me I don't know the town win condition but the town win condition is in the first post.
So, Ganderin is limited to quoting Cyan... and exclamation points, and presumably the ability to vote (otherwise the role is almost totally unplayable). This is Impossible Mafia though and not "Helplessly Crippled" Mafia.
1 exclamation point for "yes"
2 for "no"
3 for "I don't know"
4 for "I know but I can't answer that"
5 for "I believe so"
6 for "I don't think so"
Start with these two questions then:
1) Can you use these, in combination with Cyan quotes, to communicate?
2) Do you have any sort of voting restriction?
No, REALLY? Are you really casting doubt on people for their RVS votes? Really? I mean, this is impossible mafia, but you've managed to do the unpossible.
And, the backpedal. First its worth questioning *boggle* then you simply achknoledge its random nature after being confronted with it? If you understood and knew what the R in RVS stood for, you certainly didn't care before. Vote Pinky's
I'm officially calling for a policy lynch on the next person to vomit role info into the thread willingly and without purpose.
IT CAN TALK. *meow*
I'm pretty sure Cyan mentioned the "quote role" in an endgame of a game around the time of Basic #26 or 29. I know i've seen it mentioned before so it is certainly there somewhere.
I really don't like your appeal to you meta here ether now. Yes, i know your a facts driven man/woman, but you are completely off in the implementation and the timing of the push. You are looking for evidence where there cannot possibly be discerned any.
I fail to see the town motivation for the questioning of normal RVS votes. Your push for real content and reasoning doesn't fit with the nature of the gamestate. You actually seem to think that our votes are there for a reason, or you want to make others think that they are, when in fact there is nothing there.
Ok. Gandarin can only respond with Cyan Quotes, though he can quote others if he's responding to their questions. The exclamation points are only there so the post can process into the forums. That's pretty much reducing him to a yes/no answer set until we can find him posts by Cyan to expand his repertoire, so let's limit our questions to one at a time.
Ganderin, is there a way to safely remove your post restriction?
For "Yes" use the "I'm in agreement with that statement" quote.
For "No" use the "This is a pretty awful response" quote.
Ok. Gandarin can only respond with Cyan Quotes, though he can quote others if he's responding to their questions. The exclamation points are only there so the post can process into the forums. That's pretty much reducing him to a yes/no answer set until we can find him posts by Cyan to expand his repertoire, so let's limit our questions to one at a time.
Ganderin, is there a way to safely remove your post restriction?
For "Yes" use the "I'm in agreement with that statement" quote.
For "No" use the "This is a pretty awful response" quote.
Ok. And based on your responses in post #51, you also have a voting restriction.
Since it's 7 of 12 to lynch right now, you probably CAN vote, but it's via PM and not shown publicly.
Anyone have any suggestions on what to do about Ganderin (Besides policy lynch for having his PR, because something that crippling has got to have some major compensation, unless Seppel's being a complete bastardmod this game, which I doubt) ?
Ok. And based on your responses in post #51, you also have a voting restriction.
Since it's 7 of 12 to lynch right now, you probably CAN vote, but it's via PM and not shown publicly.
Anyone have any suggestions on what to do about Ganderin (Besides policy lynch for having his PR, because something that crippling has got to have some major compensation, unless Seppel's being a complete bastardmod this game, which I doubt) ?
So Iso is claiming that he's Cyan, who wins with the town, but doesn't have the town wincon in his role PM (which is a null tell and probably Seppel just messing with us).
But I found this little exchange in the mafia theory/discussion thread.
Now... How many people would agree that Seppel would pull something like that in this game, just to screw with everyone's minds?
Not so random FOS: Iso
So you're FoSing me for getting a role that Cyan claimed is impossible in conjunction to a quote of mine made over a month ago before knowing this game was going to be in action? What relevance does that have with the quote in question, or even the concept of it? Moreover, what would I have to gain by bringing attention to myself by alerting everybody of my win condition without provocation if it wasn't legit? The reason I claimed it now is because if I get run up and my win condition is "I don't know the win condition but I win with the town", what would stop me from being lynched? That would just be horrid. And you're seriously trying to modgame SEPPEL? SERIOUSLY?
Anyone have any suggestions on what to do about Ganderin (Besides policy lynch for having his PR, because something that crippling has got to have some major compensation, unless Seppel's being a complete bastardmod this game, which I doubt) ?
I have an idea. But I'm not sharing it. Not 'til I know if it's gonna work.
@gan_dan, is there any way you could be a little more clear with your Cyan quotes by cutting out unnecessary parts and adding ellipses between phrases, letters, and words? Like, you could make the word "Yes" out of a quote, "You ever get the feeling that something was wrong?" by turning it into "Y...e...s...". Ask Seppel if that's okay. Just a thought.
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Ok. And based on your responses in post #51, you also have a voting restriction.
Since it's 7 of 12 to lynch right now, you probably CAN vote, but it's via PM and not shown publicly.
Anyone have any suggestions on what to do about Ganderin (Besides policy lynch for having his PR, because something that crippling has got to have some major compensation, unless Seppel's being a complete bastardmod this game, which I doubt) ?
So you're FoSing me for getting a role that Cyan claimed is impossible in conjunction to a quote of mine made over a month ago before knowing this game was going to be in action? What relevance does that have with the quote in question, or even the concept of it? Moreover, what would I have to gain by bringing attention to myself by alerting everybody of my win condition without provocation if it wasn't legit? The reason I claimed it now is because if I get run up and my win condition is "I don't know the win condition but I win with the town", what would stop me from being lynched? That would just be horrid. And you're seriously trying to modgame SEPPEL? SERIOUSLY?
IGMEOY, Tilde.
I have an idea. But I'm not sharing it. Not 'til I know if it's gonna work.
@gan_dan, is there any way you could be a little more clear with your Cyan quotes by cutting out unnecessary parts and adding ellipses between phrases, letters, and words? Like, you could make the word "Yes" out of a quote, "You ever get the feeling that something was wrong?" by turning it into "Y...e...s...". Ask Seppel if that's okay. Just a thought.
So, I've noticed an issue when I call someone on a completely bs reason for being on my case, which registers with me as scummy. Not because they're attacking me, but the way they are going about attacking me.
However, the issue is that when I do this, it's generally referred to as OMGUS, when in actuality, the reason why I'm retaliation voting for them is because I see scummy motives behind their vote on me, and as it is labeled as OMGUS, it is ignored. What should one do in this scenario?
Obviously it's just an FoS, but the same logic applies here.
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Ok. Gandarin can only respond with Cyan Quotes, though he can quote others if he's responding to their questions. The exclamation points are only there so the post can process into the forums. That's pretty much reducing him to a yes/no answer set until we can find him posts by Cyan to expand his repertoire, so let's limit our questions to one at a time.
Ganderin, is there a way to safely remove your post restriction?
For "Yes" use the "I'm in agreement with that statement" quote.
For "No" use the "This is a pretty awful response" quote.
So you're FoSing me for getting a role that Cyan claimed is impossible in conjunction to a quote of mine made over a month ago before knowing this game was going to be in action? What relevance does that have with the quote in question, or even the concept of it? Moreover, what would I have to gain by bringing attention to myself by alerting everybody of my win condition without provocation if it wasn't legit? The reason I claimed it now is because if I get run up and my win condition is "I don't know the win condition but I win with the town", what would stop me from being lynched? That would just be horrid. And you're seriously trying to modgame SEPPEL? SERIOUSLY?
IGMEOY, Tilde.
I have an idea. But I'm not sharing it. Not 'til I know if it's gonna work.
@gan_dan, is there any way you could be a little more clear with your Cyan quotes by cutting out unnecessary parts and adding ellipses between phrases, letters, and words? Like, you could make the word "Yes" out of a quote, "You ever get the feeling that something was wrong?" by turning it into "Y...e...s...". Ask Seppel if that's okay. Just a thought.
You said it seems over the top for getting FoSed. So I explained my actions. Rule #1 in a game with Iso is that you don't mess with Iso. People get wrecked that way.
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You said it seems over the top for getting FoSed. So I explained my actions. Rule #1 in a game with Iso is that you don't mess with Iso. People get wrecked that way.
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Looking at Post #58, it appears Ganderin just nominated himself for lynch.
I HIGHLY recommend against that course of action today, because the first thing I thought of in terms of roles that would compensate for Gan's PR is Jester. No offense Gan, but I'm not following through with any plan involving your demise without some independent confirmation that it won't, you know, make everyone else lose?
And you're seriously trying to modgame SEPPEL? SERIOUSLY?
Do you know anyone else in this game who's crazy/paranoid enough to consider the possibilities Seppel might have come up with? I don't see Xyre anywhere.
Looking at Post #58, it appears Ganderin just nominated himself for lynch.
I HIGHLY recommend against that course of action today, because the first thing I thought of in terms of roles that would compensate for Gan's PR is Jester. No offense Gan, but I'm not following through with any plan involving your demise without some independent confirmation that it won't, you know, make everyone else lose?
Do you know anyone else in this game who's crazy/paranoid enough to consider the possibilities Seppel might have come up with? I don't see Xyre anywhere.
Looking at Post #58, it appears Ganderin just nominated himself for lynch.
I HIGHLY recommend against that course of action today, because the first thing I thought of in terms of roles that would compensate for Gan's PR is Jester. No offense Gan, but I'm not following through with any plan involving your demise without some independent confirmation that it won't, you know, make everyone else lose?
It's against MTGS rules to run a game with a Jester in it without telling the players beforehand that there's a Jester in the game. I feel like you're really stretching here.
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Do you know anyone else in this game who's crazy/paranoid enough to consider the possibilities Seppel might have come up with? I don't see Xyre anywhere.
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Looking at Post #58, it appears Ganderin just nominated himself for lynch.
I HIGHLY recommend against that course of action today, because the first thing I thought of in terms of roles that would compensate for Gan's PR is Jester. No offense Gan, but I'm not following through with any plan involving your demise without some independent confirmation that it won't, you know, make everyone else lose?
Do you know anyone else in this game who's crazy/paranoid enough to consider the possibilities Seppel might have come up with? I don't see Xyre anywhere.
It's against MTGS rules to run a game with a Jester in it without telling the players beforehand that there's a Jester in the game. I feel like you're really stretching here.
@GD: You want to explain why you agree with Arcadic here about the appeal to meta, but when Iso uses meta you stated fair enough here?
I personally saw Arcadic as coming off defensive on something he calls "random and irrelelvent". The difference I found with iLord and Eco is that neither came off as defensive in my question. Where as Arcadic attacks it and in sense OMGUS a vote on.
First he calls me back pedding: here
Then drops that and gets defensive at being called out here.
He looks to try to spin that I have an ulterior motive and fearmongers
@GD: You want to explain why you agree with Arcadic here about the appeal to meta, but when Iso uses meta you stated fair enough here?
I personally saw Arcadic as coming off defensive on something he calls "random and irrelelvent". The difference I found with iLord and Eco is that neither came off as defensive in my question. Where as Arcadic attacks it and in sense OMGUS a vote on.
First he calls me back pedding: here
Then drops that and gets defensive at being called out here.
He looks to try to spin that I have an ulterior motive and fearmongers
I see this as someone deflecting back and making someone look scummy for what should be a simple question.
It's against MTGS rules to run a game with a Jester in it without telling the players beforehand that there's a Jester in the game. I feel like you're really stretching here.
I said first thing... not the only thing. Ganderin might be an ultra-informant (all scum are mod-revealed upon death), a hyper-saint (all players voting for him when lynched are also killed in divine retribution), or could have no abilities whatsoever. We just don't know and Ganderin either can't or won't (if the PR is faked) tell us.
His role SCREAMS "It's A Trap!" (who had the Ackbar avvy? Was it Jobie?) whether it really is one or not. So in my mind, he's off the chopping block until tomorrow, unless someone pulls a day investigation out of thin air.
I said first thing... not the only thing. Ganderin might be an ultra-informant (all scum are mod-revealed upon death), a hyper-saint (all players voting for him when lynched are also killed in divine retribution), or could have no abilities whatsoever. We just don't know and Ganderin either can't or won't (if the PR is faked) tell us.
His role SCREAMS "It's A Trap!" (who had the Ackbar avvy? Was it Jobie?) whether it really is one or not. So in my mind, he's off the chopping block until tomorrow, unless someone pulls a day investigation out of thin air.
So Iso is claiming that he's Cyan, who wins with the town, but doesn't have the town wincon in his role PM (which is a null tell and probably Seppel just messing with us).
But I found this little exchange in the mafia theory/discussion thread.
Now... How many people would agree that Seppel would pull something like that in this game, just to screw with everyone's minds?
I said first thing... not the only thing. Ganderin might be an ultra-informant (all scum are mod-revealed upon death), a hyper-saint (all players voting for him when lynched are also killed in divine retribution), or could have no abilities whatsoever. We just don't know and Ganderin either can't or won't (if the PR is faked) tell us.
His role SCREAMS "It's A Trap!" (who had the Ackbar avvy? Was it Jobie?) whether it really is one or not. So in my mind, he's off the chopping block until tomorrow, unless someone pulls a day investigation out of thin air.
I don't think it's something we have to worry about for long.
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You said it seems over the top for getting FoSed. So I explained my actions. Rule #1 in a game with Iso is that you don't mess with Iso. People get wrecked that way.
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You said it seems over the top for getting FoSed. So I explained my actions. Rule #1 in a game with Iso is that you don't mess with Iso. People get wrecked that way.
Someone is certainly confident in themself. Good for you. Doesn't make you town. I have found challenging people to "dare" to mess with them is a scum tell. What your saying is, "Don't bother coming after me!" which as a town makes no sense. You should not have that mentality, you should be looking to hunt people down, not have them challenge you.
Also, I don't hate your role, that much, I hate how you came into the thread throwing your role information everywhere. Basically, you came in declaring yourself town, then provided details about your role that are in no way confirmable by anyone. Again, a town mindset shouldn't be trying to prove how AWESOME TOWN you are to everyone. Your actions with others and reasoning will show that better than anything else.
Nothing you have done so far has come from a townie mindset. The way you handled your role is just so bad. What did you even hope to gain from saying that?
Vote Iso
I don't think pinkys_brian's reasoning behind the RVS makes him scum, more that it just is one huge null tell. He didn't use it to sling around a lot of suspicion, mostly just some at Eco, but had he continued to do that then he would have looked worse. But, that still is because he would have been mudslinging, and not because of his stance with the RVS.
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Someone is certainly confident in themself. Good for you. Doesn't make you town. I have found challenging people to "dare" to mess with them is a scum tell. What your saying is, "Don't bother coming after me!" which as a town makes no sense. You should not have that mentality, you should be looking to hunt people down, not have them challenge you.
Wrong. I'm not saying don't bother coming after me. I'm saying if you do, I'm going to notice every little scummy detail of it. Supernatural Mafia just ended. I was town in it. After kill-joy started attacking me for pushing for his scum buddy's lynch from my first post, I knew he was scum.
Look at Iji Mafia, WHICH YOU WERE IN. The Ice King started attacking me after I had Zebi, who he replaced, as a top scumspect. It was not the fact that he attacked me, it was the way he went about it, as well as the fact that Zebi was already scum to me.
Hell, look at every game I've been town in. I push for people who push for me. Why? Because I can sense their motives.
Yours are not town motives.
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Also, I don't hate your role, that much, I hate how you came into the thread throwing your role information everywhere. Basically, you came in declaring yourself town, then provided details about your role that are in no way confirmable by anyone. Again, a town mindset shouldn't be trying to prove how AWESOME TOWN you are to everyone. Your actions with others and reasoning will show that better than anything else.
What exactly is my role, Anak?
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just trying to win. So why are you raining on my parade?
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Nothing you have done so far has come from a townie mindset. The way you handled your role is just so bad. What did you even hope to gain from saying that?
From saying what? What feeble concept are you grasping at here that could possibly paint me as scum?
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I don't think pinkys_brian's reasoning behind the RVS makes him scum, more that it just is one huge null tell. He didn't use it to sling around a lot of suspicion, mostly just some at Eco, but had he continued to do that then he would have looked worse. But, that still is because he would have been mudslinging, and not because of his stance with the RVS.
*She. And pinky is an excellent analyst, I wouldn't discount her so quickly, if I were you. Also, I don't see what the relevance of this part of your post is in regards to you voting me. Overly self-aware, much?
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Wrong. I'm not saying don't bother coming after me. I'm saying if you do, I'm going to notice every little scummy detail of it.
So wait, this
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You said it seems over the top for getting FoSed. So I explained my actions. Rule #1 in a game with Iso is that you don't mess with Iso. People get wrecked that way.
doesn't say don't mess with Iso, but instead that you will very intently analyze what they say about you? Because I don't get that feeling at all from it.
Also, you are assuming that only scum are going to attack you. Just because someone is attacking you doesn't mean that at all. Something to chew on.
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Supernatural Mafia just ended. I was town in it. After kill-joy started attacking me for pushing for his scum buddy's lynch from my first post, I knew he was scum.
Look at Iji Mafia, WHICH YOU WERE IN. The Ice King started attacking me after I had Zebi, who he replaced, as a top scumspect. It was not the fact that he attacked me, it was the way he went about it, as well as the fact that Zebi was already scum to me.
Hell, look at every game I've been town in. I push for people who push for me. Why? Because I can sense their motives.
Good for you. I know you have been successful in the past. You are also acutely aware of your meta. So, say if you happened to be scum, and you know how you have acted as town in the past, you could very easily act that way as scum again.
Just because you have done something as town in the past doesn't exclusively restrict you to only doing it as town. Hell, it should make you more likely to do it as scum.
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Yours are not town motives.
So, what are my motives then? Attacking Iso != being scum.
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What exactly is my role, Anak?
Tough to tell at this point, but, you are avoiding my question.
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I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just trying to win. So why are you raining on my parade?
From saying what? What feeble concept are you grasping at here that could possibly paint me as scum?
You should answer my question. I will repost it, just to make sure you didn't miss it. What did you hope to gain from bringing your role info into the game so early?
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*She. And pinky is an excellent analyst, I wouldn't discount her so quickly, if I were you. Also, I don't see what the relevance of this part of your post is in regards to you voting me. Overly self-aware, much?
Sorry pinky, forgot you are a she. Forgive me
Also, I know pinky is a good player, having been a part of a perfect scum win with her. However, why are you jumping so quickly to defend her, especially since I wasn't attacking her at all?
However, none of that was addressed to you. That was a thought I had, aside of what I thought about you. As should it have been apparent because it referenced nothing from or about you at all. Calling me self-aware, when I don't refer to myself at all, seems especially hypocritic considering that this had nothing to do with you, but you tried to make it so anyway.
So, I'm scum for attacking you, Tilde for also attacking you, and iLord for...existing? He has had one non-RVS post, and it said that we shouldn't answer your "Are we all Cyan?" question. Which he is right.
One more thing...
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So you're FoSing me for getting a role that Cyan claimed is impossible in conjunction to a quote of mine made over a month ago before knowing this game was going to be in action? What relevance does that have with the quote in question, or even the concept of it? Moreover, what would I have to gain by bringing attention to myself by alerting everybody of my win condition without provocation if it wasn't legit? The reason I claimed it now is because if I get run up and my win condition is "I don't know the win condition but I win with the town", what would stop me from being lynched? That would just be horrid. And you're seriously trying to modgame SEPPEL? SERIOUSLY?
IGMEOY, Tilde.
This whole thing reads as a giant over-reaction to a FoS, but the bolded has me confused.
You yourself stated that the town win-con is on the front page. If you were getting lynched, I'm pretty sure you would remember that and post that, not "IDK town?". Your right, that would be horrid, but you would never say that, and you have already said why.
@GD: You want to explain why you agree with Arcadic here about the appeal to meta, but when Iso uses meta you stated fair enough here?
I personally saw Arcadic as coming off defensive on something he calls "random and irrelelvent". The difference I found with iLord and Eco is that neither came off as defensive in my question. Where as Arcadic attacks it and in sense OMGUS a vote on.
First he calls me back pedding: here
Then drops that and gets defensive at being called out here.
He looks to try to spin that I have an ulterior motive and fearmongers
I see this as someone deflecting back and making someone look scummy for what should be a simple question.
unvote:
vote: Arcadic
Allow me to answer for GD, but i don't see Iso using meta there, i see him trying to deter attackers from attacking him.
1. Where has Eco even talked to you about the RVS votes?
2. Your entire case is that i'm making your attack seem bigger than it is, so i'm scummy, but that's the exact reason your scummy.
3. Again, what motive can their be asking for reasons for RVS votes?
Congratulations, you've managed to turn nothing into a mountain. Your seriously using my joke OMGUS vote as evidence here? Your kidding me.
Someone is certainly confident in themself. Good for you. Doesn't make you town. I have found challenging people to "dare" to mess with them is a scum tell. What your saying is, "Don't bother coming after me!" which as a town makes no sense. You should not have that mentality, you should be looking to hunt people down, not have them challenge you.
Also, I don't hate your role, that much, I hate how you came into the thread throwing your role information everywhere. Basically, you came in declaring yourself town, then provided details about your role that are in no way confirmable by anyone. Again, a town mindset shouldn't be trying to prove how AWESOME TOWN you are to everyone. Your actions with others and reasoning will show that better than anything else.
Nothing you have done so far has come from a townie mindset. The way you handled your role is just so bad. What did you even hope to gain from saying that?
Vote Iso
I don't think pinkys_brian's reasoning behind the RVS makes him scum, more that it just is one huge null tell. He didn't use it to sling around a lot of suspicion, mostly just some at Eco, but had he continued to do that then he would have looked worse. But, that still is because he would have been mudslinging, and not because of his stance with the RVS.
/barn the Iso
Why does pinky's attack on litterally nothing scream null? How can you look at someone asking for reason from an RVS vote and not have questions? You've been apart of many RVS votes, has anyone ever asked you why you RVS'd anyone?
Why does pinky's attack on litterally nothing scream null? How can you look at someone asking for reason from an RVS vote and not have questions? You've been apart of many RVS votes, has anyone ever asked you why you RVS'd anyone?
No, nobody has ever asked that. I do have questions about it, with Why? at the top. However, it's null because I can see her doing it both as town or scum. Unless you believe she is lying about her stance with RVS votes, but it feels genuine to me.
You can't see a town pinky saying those things? Because I can. Just as I could see a scum pinky doing it. Again, this all changes if you think she is lying, but I don't.
No, it's not a mistake. It's part of my role PM. It tells me that I win with the town even though I don't know what the town win condition is, almost verbatim. It's part of one of the claims Cyan said was impossible. That being said, I'm going to, when I have the time, IF I have the time, look at Cyan's completed games and look for every instance in which he claimed something was impossible. I'm gonna try to break this game open.
Ah, I thought you meant that it was just left off of your PM.
If it's you're claiming that your role PM explicitly states that you don't know what the town win condition is, I find that highly questionable, since, as you stated, the win condition is right in the opening post.
Regardless, claiming this really doesn't help you at all, no matter your alignment, so I'm not sure why you're doing this.
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Vote Pinkys_Brian
Don't like Iso at this point.
Unvote
I would love some elaboration on your feelings toward Iso.
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I'm officially calling for a policy lynch on the next person to vomit role info into the thread willingly and without purpose.
Yeah, guys don't say anything unless you have to.
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No, really, you want clairfication on an obviously random vote from 1/3d of the game? What reason do you have scrutinize an obviously random and irrelelvent vote? Your not a noob, you know how the RVS works. No-one needs to explain their vote, no-one should. Its for all intensive purposes, random and irrelevent. Trying to push relevance on something very obviously irrelevant reeks of scum looking for a jumping off point to start a lynch.
Bolded is a stretch. pinky's not being logical. You're confusing that with scumminess.
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I fail to see the town motivation for the questioning of normal RVS votes. Your push for real content and reasoning doesn't fit with the nature of the gamestate. You actually seem to think that our votes are there for a reason, or you want to make others think that they are, when in fact there is nothing there.
I fail also to see a scum motivation that doesn't involve the majority of the town having the mental capacity of a lobotomized gorilla.
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So Iso is claiming that he's Cyan, who wins with the town, but doesn't have the town wincon in his role PM (which is a null tell and probably Seppel just messing with us).
I could see Seppel just messing with us. I still don't see why he would claim it though.
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I personally saw Arcadic as coming off defensive on something he calls "random and irrelelvent". The difference I found with iLord and Eco is that neither came off as defensive in my question. Where as Arcadic attacks it and in sense OMGUS a vote on.
First he calls me back pedding:
here
Then drops that and gets defensive at being called out here.
He looks to try to spin that I have an ulterior motive and fearmongers
Quote from Arcadic »
Trying to push relevance on something very obviously irrelevant reeks of scum looking for a jumping off point to start a lynch.
I see this as someone deflecting back and making someone look scummy for what should be a simple question.
unvote:
vote: Arcadic
Ironically, this attack itself is very defensive.
I don't understand how Arcadic's post is at all "defensive" when he's the one on the offensive and calling you scummy.
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Someone is certainly confident in themself. Good for you. Doesn't make you town. I have found challenging people to "dare" to mess with them is a scum tell. What your saying is, "Don't bother coming after me!" which as a town makes no sense. You should not have that mentality, you should be looking to hunt people down, not have them challenge you.
Also, I don't hate your role, that much, I hate how you came into the thread throwing your role information everywhere. Basically, you came in declaring yourself town, then provided details about your role that are in no way confirmable by anyone. Again, a town mindset shouldn't be trying to prove how AWESOME TOWN you are to everyone. Your actions with others and reasoning will show that better than anything else.
Nothing you have done so far has come from a townie mindset. The way you handled your role is just so bad. What did you even hope to gain from saying that?
Vote Iso
I could see the reasoning behind the first argument. I do believe, however, that this just probably a personality quirk if there's any familial resemblance at all. I do sense that you find it annoying, and with that I am in complete agreement.
For the second, I can't come up with a scum mindset that would involving coming out with that info either.
@Iso: Why couldn't you just pretend that your role PM had nothing weird about the Win Con?
Sure, I guess I can do that, just wanted to get the vote out of the way.
I don't like how he's attacking Pinky. I get that this is Cyan's game, but the way he's doing it is misrepresentative of the facts, and is just downright scummy.
Sure, I guess I can do that, just wanted to get the vote out of the way.
I don't like how he's attacking Pinky. I get that this is Cyan's game, but the way he's doing it is misrepresentative of the facts, and is just downright scummy.
Why do you want to lynch yourself again? If it's solely because you have a posting restriction, quote the "Of all the ideas I have heard, this one sounds rather absurd."
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Ganderin, is there a way to safely remove your post restriction?
For "Yes" use the "I'm in agreement with that statement" quote.
For "No" use the "This is a pretty awful response" quote.
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
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Since it's 7 of 12 to lynch right now, you probably CAN vote, but it's via PM and not shown publicly.
Anyone have any suggestions on what to do about Ganderin (Besides policy lynch for having his PR, because something that crippling has got to have some major compensation, unless Seppel's being a complete bastardmod this game, which I doubt) ?
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
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So you're FoSing me for getting a role that Cyan claimed is impossible in conjunction to a quote of mine made over a month ago before knowing this game was going to be in action? What relevance does that have with the quote in question, or even the concept of it? Moreover, what would I have to gain by bringing attention to myself by alerting everybody of my win condition without provocation if it wasn't legit? The reason I claimed it now is because if I get run up and my win condition is "I don't know the win condition but I win with the town", what would stop me from being lynched? That would just be horrid. And you're seriously trying to modgame SEPPEL? SERIOUSLY?
IGMEOY, Tilde.
I have an idea. But I'm not sharing it. Not 'til I know if it's gonna work.
@gan_dan, is there any way you could be a little more clear with your Cyan quotes by cutting out unnecessary parts and adding ellipses between phrases, letters, and words? Like, you could make the word "Yes" out of a quote, "You ever get the feeling that something was wrong?" by turning it into "Y...e...s...". Ask Seppel if that's okay. Just a thought.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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Obviously it's just an FoS, but the same logic applies here.
Also, Unvote.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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I'm waiting on a response from Seppel before I continue doing much of anything else.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I HIGHLY recommend against that course of action today, because the first thing I thought of in terms of roles that would compensate for Gan's PR is Jester. No offense Gan, but I'm not following through with any plan involving your demise without some independent confirmation that it won't, you know, make everyone else lose?
Do you know anyone else in this game who's crazy/paranoid enough to consider the possibilities Seppel might have come up with? I don't see Xyre anywhere.
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
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It's against MTGS rules to run a game with a Jester in it without telling the players beforehand that there's a Jester in the game. I feel like you're really stretching here.
Me. I just haven't bothered yet. Give it time.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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I personally saw Arcadic as coming off defensive on something he calls "random and irrelelvent". The difference I found with iLord and Eco is that neither came off as defensive in my question. Where as Arcadic attacks it and in sense OMGUS a vote on.
First he calls me back pedding:
here
Then drops that and gets defensive at being called out here.
He looks to try to spin that I have an ulterior motive and fearmongers
I see this as someone deflecting back and making someone look scummy for what should be a simple question.
unvote:
vote: Arcadic
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
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I said first thing... not the only thing. Ganderin might be an ultra-informant (all scum are mod-revealed upon death), a hyper-saint (all players voting for him when lynched are also killed in divine retribution), or could have no abilities whatsoever. We just don't know and Ganderin either can't or won't (if the PR is faked) tell us.
His role SCREAMS "It's A Trap!" (who had the Ackbar avvy? Was it Jobie?) whether it really is one or not. So in my mind, he's off the chopping block until tomorrow, unless someone pulls a day investigation out of thin air.
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
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I don't think it's something we have to worry about for long.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
Also known at mafiascum as farside22
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Someone is certainly confident in themself. Good for you. Doesn't make you town. I have found challenging people to "dare" to mess with them is a scum tell. What your saying is, "Don't bother coming after me!" which as a town makes no sense. You should not have that mentality, you should be looking to hunt people down, not have them challenge you.
Also, I don't hate your role, that much, I hate how you came into the thread throwing your role information everywhere. Basically, you came in declaring yourself town, then provided details about your role that are in no way confirmable by anyone. Again, a town mindset shouldn't be trying to prove how AWESOME TOWN you are to everyone. Your actions with others and reasoning will show that better than anything else.
Nothing you have done so far has come from a townie mindset. The way you handled your role is just so bad. What did you even hope to gain from saying that?
Vote Iso
I don't think pinkys_brian's reasoning behind the RVS makes him scum, more that it just is one huge null tell. He didn't use it to sling around a lot of suspicion, mostly just some at Eco, but had he continued to do that then he would have looked worse. But, that still is because he would have been mudslinging, and not because of his stance with the RVS.
Scum team:
~Tilde~
Anaklusmos
iLord
Watch me be right on at least 2.
New information may change this.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Wrong. I'm not saying don't bother coming after me. I'm saying if you do, I'm going to notice every little scummy detail of it. Supernatural Mafia just ended. I was town in it. After kill-joy started attacking me for pushing for his scum buddy's lynch from my first post, I knew he was scum.
Look at Iji Mafia, WHICH YOU WERE IN. The Ice King started attacking me after I had Zebi, who he replaced, as a top scumspect. It was not the fact that he attacked me, it was the way he went about it, as well as the fact that Zebi was already scum to me.
Hell, look at every game I've been town in. I push for people who push for me. Why? Because I can sense their motives.
Yours are not town motives.
What exactly is my role, Anak?
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just trying to win. So why are you raining on my parade?
From saying what? What feeble concept are you grasping at here that could possibly paint me as scum?
*She. And pinky is an excellent analyst, I wouldn't discount her so quickly, if I were you. Also, I don't see what the relevance of this part of your post is in regards to you voting me. Overly self-aware, much?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Arcadic (2): Gigas1, pinkys_brain
pinkys_brain (2): iLord, Arcadic
iLord (1): Ecophagy
Not Voting (7): Anaklusmos, Cyouni, ganderin_dan, Some One, ~Tilde~, Wrath_of_DoG, Iso
With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.
Hedging our bets are we?
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
Ask pinky.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So wait, this
doesn't say don't mess with Iso, but instead that you will very intently analyze what they say about you? Because I don't get that feeling at all from it.
Also, you are assuming that only scum are going to attack you. Just because someone is attacking you doesn't mean that at all. Something to chew on.
Good for you. I know you have been successful in the past. You are also acutely aware of your meta. So, say if you happened to be scum, and you know how you have acted as town in the past, you could very easily act that way as scum again.
Just because you have done something as town in the past doesn't exclusively restrict you to only doing it as town. Hell, it should make you more likely to do it as scum.
So, what are my motives then? Attacking Iso != being scum.
Tough to tell at this point, but, you are avoiding my question.
You should answer my question. I will repost it, just to make sure you didn't miss it. What did you hope to gain from bringing your role info into the game so early?
Sorry pinky, forgot you are a she. Forgive me
Also, I know pinky is a good player, having been a part of a perfect scum win with her. However, why are you jumping so quickly to defend her, especially since I wasn't attacking her at all?
However, none of that was addressed to you. That was a thought I had, aside of what I thought about you. As should it have been apparent because it referenced nothing from or about you at all. Calling me self-aware, when I don't refer to myself at all, seems especially hypocritic considering that this had nothing to do with you, but you tried to make it so anyway.
So, I'm scum for attacking you, Tilde for also attacking you, and iLord for...existing? He has had one non-RVS post, and it said that we shouldn't answer your "Are we all Cyan?" question. Which he is right.
One more thing...
This whole thing reads as a giant over-reaction to a FoS, but the bolded has me confused.
You yourself stated that the town win-con is on the front page. If you were getting lynched, I'm pretty sure you would remember that and post that, not "IDK town?". Your right, that would be horrid, but you would never say that, and you have already said why.
Allow me to answer for GD, but i don't see Iso using meta there, i see him trying to deter attackers from attacking him.
1. Where has Eco even talked to you about the RVS votes?
2. Your entire case is that i'm making your attack seem bigger than it is, so i'm scummy, but that's the exact reason your scummy.
3. Again, what motive can their be asking for reasons for RVS votes?
Congratulations, you've managed to turn nothing into a mountain. Your seriously using my joke OMGUS vote as evidence here? Your kidding me.
/barn the Iso
Why does pinky's attack on litterally nothing scream null? How can you look at someone asking for reason from an RVS vote and not have questions? You've been apart of many RVS votes, has anyone ever asked you why you RVS'd anyone?
Read: I'll change my mind constantly and post these all game. I'll change them when i need to OMGUS someone or jump on a popular wagon.
Question for GD in its own post coming.
My wife was on MTV with this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUutIZg2EpU
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No, nobody has ever asked that. I do have questions about it, with Why? at the top. However, it's null because I can see her doing it both as town or scum. Unless you believe she is lying about her stance with RVS votes, but it feels genuine to me.
You can't see a town pinky saying those things? Because I can. Just as I could see a scum pinky doing it. Again, this all changes if you think she is lying, but I don't.
Ah, I thought you meant that it was just left off of your PM.
If it's you're claiming that your role PM explicitly states that you don't know what the town win condition is, I find that highly questionable, since, as you stated, the win condition is right in the opening post.
Regardless, claiming this really doesn't help you at all, no matter your alignment, so I'm not sure why you're doing this.
I would love some elaboration on your feelings toward Iso.
Yeah, guys don't say anything unless you have to.
Bolded is a stretch. pinky's not being logical. You're confusing that with scumminess.
I fail also to see a scum motivation that doesn't involve the majority of the town having the mental capacity of a lobotomized gorilla.
I could see Seppel just messing with us. I still don't see why he would claim it though.
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Ironically, this attack itself is very defensive.
I don't understand how Arcadic's post is at all "defensive" when he's the one on the offensive and calling you scummy.
I could see the reasoning behind the first argument. I do believe, however, that this just probably a personality quirk if there's any familial resemblance at all. I do sense that you find it annoying, and with that I am in complete agreement.
For the second, I can't come up with a scum mindset that would involving coming out with that info either.
@Iso: Why couldn't you just pretend that your role PM had nothing weird about the Win Con?
My Custom Set: Solescurio
This vote will not change.
You want to explain?
My Custom Set: Solescurio
I don't like how he's attacking Pinky. I get that this is Cyan's game, but the way he's doing it is misrepresentative of the facts, and is just downright scummy.
Which misrepresentation are you referring to?
My Custom Set: Solescurio
VOTING!
vote: ganderin_dan
Arcadic (3): Gigas1, pinkys_brain, Wrath_of_DoG
pinkys_brain (2): iLord, Arcadic
iLord (1): Ecophagy
ganderin_dan (1): ganderin_dan
Not Voting (5): Anaklusmos, Cyouni, Some One, ~Tilde~, Iso
With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.
Why do you want to lynch yourself again? If it's solely because you have a posting restriction, quote the "Of all the ideas I have heard, this one sounds rather absurd."
Otherwise, find an appropriate quote?
My Custom Set: Solescurio
Hrm.
Vote: Ganderin_Dan