How about you use less pronouns and answer it again.
Oh, I thought you meant what I thought about Giga trying to justify his vote by saying it was a joke. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I'm asking, what do you think it means that GigaRage claims to have voted for Seppel for a joke, yet continued to vote for him.
I think that it means either:
A) He forgot to unvote.
OR
B) It wasn't actually a joke, and him saying it was a joke was retroactive reasoning to cover for the scumminess of the vote/lynch push.
The reasoning that I didn't unvote was because I didn't plan to do so intill RVS was over. Now that I have realized RVS is through I retract my vote as I was just voting without any basis. Which is what I thought you were supposed to do during RVS.
I read the previous posts and now this doesn't make sense since Giga did unvote prior to this? Why the sudden vote when Giga had explained himself? Seems a bit odd.
I read the previous posts and now this doesn't make sense since Giga did unvote prior to this? Why the sudden vote when Giga had explained himself? Seems a bit odd.
What do you think about the way Giga explained himself?
I read the previous posts and now this doesn't make sense since Giga did unvote prior to this? Why the sudden vote when Giga had explained himself? Seems a bit odd.
Did Giga unvote before or after people questioned his logic?
Oh, I thought you meant what I thought about Giga trying to justify his vote by saying it was a joke. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I think that it means either:
A) He forgot to unvote.
OR
B) It wasn't actually a joke, and him saying it was a joke was retroactive reasoning to cover for the scumminess of the vote/lynch push.
The reasoning that I didn't unvote was because I didn't plan to do so intill RVS was over. Now that I have realized RVS is through I retract my vote as I was just voting without any basis. Which is what I thought you were supposed to do during RVS.
These quotes come in order. Take it for what it is worth. I have suspicions, but not enough to make an offical vote.
Giga's votes seemed like a joke at first, but the way he pushed it and didn't unvote is a bit unsettling. Noted, but I don't think it's worth a vote yet.
My vote was always a joke, Seppel voted for me, then I voted back, then we got to a friendly war were we try to get players to vote for each other. I explain it's a joke and don't unvote because I consider us still in RVS so I thought that my vote would mean nothing, then I am told RVS is over so I Unvote and carry on. You guys seem to be looking into my RVS actions a little too deeply. That's fine though, I like the attention.
I'm still curious why MandersHex is voting for Ceej, honestly.
I have no idea if anyone has guessed it yet, and we're moving today, so this is about all I will be able to post for the rest of the day.
Ceej's first two posts, he went out of his way to specify that his vote and his actions were due to the RVS. I've caught scum for this before, so it always sends up a red flag. That is why I'm voting for him.
Hopefully I'll be able to catch up and rejoin the game completely tomorrow, Monday or Tuesday at the latest.
I wouldn't say I went out of my way of defending my actions, more defending calling Chuck Norris 'great'.
And every game I've played/seen played on mafiascum tends to start with random votes with wispy logic and random questions that usually don't relate to the game. As I'm the new guy on this site for mafia I thought i'd try more constructive game related questions rather than "Do you beleive in magic?" type RQS.
And the jester fish wasn't serious, it was a response to your self-vote.
Also other than seeing giga and seppel bang heads not much I can see going on, again new to this site = zero meta history for me, and probably missing a lot of in jokes too.
@TIK - It wasn't clear in post 1, does the day last until a lynch vote is locked in place or is there a set deadline for it?
Ah. My mistake then. This is my first game of mafia ever and I was unaware that basics don't have jesters. My apologies.
Giga's votes seemed like a joke at first, but the way he pushed it and didn't unvote is a bit unsettling. Noted, but I don't think it's worth a vote yet.
Umm... Okay? Jump on wagons easily much? Fos Infectious Baloth
Vote Tezzeret12
You are being way too quick to create suspicion. FoS'ing is hardly jumping on a wagon, especially when he says that he was mistaken on the appearance of Jester roles.
Umm... Okay? Jump on wagons easily much? Fos Infectious Baloth
You make this action after infectiousbaloth takes his action back. This looks likes a blantant attack on someone who misunderstood. I'm with Wheat Grinder on this one.
Umm... Okay? Jump on wagons easily much? Fos Infectious Baloth
You claim that I am bad at reading, but this is the course of actions that have taken place. It is pure pity that you are accussing my of bad reding when everything here is in plain english.
My vote stands. I highly believe that tezzeret12 is scum.
Umm… How did you think Manders saying that Ceej is scum, RVS?
We've been over this; I think RVS lasts longer than it does.
Or was it?
Probably not. But it passed away in the wind.
Anyway, my powers of intuition, based on how you’re reacting to Ceej, are coming in. Curious?
Me: Oh, I’m not scum Wheat Grinder, I’m really town.
Wheat Grinder(in a really thick british accent btw): Oh really? Well then, sorry old chap.
Me: Quite alright.
Then we skip off in some sunset. A giant sun sets. And nobody likes our ****ty movie.
I would skip into a sunset with you everyday forever.
Conclusion: You’re gullible. And I watch to many old movies.
Ceej's first two posts, he went out of his way to specify that his vote and his actions were due to the RVS. I've caught scum for this before, so it always sends up a red flag. That is why I'm voting for him.
I have never heard of that tell before. Can you provide examples of where it's happened?
Anyway, my powers of intuition, based on how you’re reacting to Ceej, are coming in. Curious?
Me: Oh, I’m not scum Wheat Grinder, I’m really town.
Wheat Grinder(in a really thick british accent btw): Oh really? Well then, sorry old chap.
Me: Quite alright.
Then we skip off in some sunset. A giant sun sets. And nobody likes our ****ty movie.
Conclusion: You’re gullible. And I watch to many old movies.
You mean to tell me that a blatant attack on someone who obviuosly made a mistake is an okay measure to go by? I think not. Even though it has been proven that is a mistake, tezzeret still insists that infectiousbaloth is guilty. You defending him only makes me suspicious of you as well.
Umm... Okay? Jump on wagons easily much? Fos Infectious Baloth
I wouldn't call it jumping on a wagon. There isn't much to go on right now and I felt like Ceej was fishing. I made a mistake and it looks like someone's trying to capitalize on that and cull the weak member of the herd.
Call me a wagon jumper if you want, you can call it OMGUSing if you really want to, but I'll stick to my guns on this one.
Yeah, okay Void, I get that, but this post, right after Manders is one I really, really don't like.
If you look at the timestamps on her post and mine, they are 19 minutes apart. I read what she said and looked back at the thread, still trying to decipher what she meant. I posted when I thought I found what was suspicious. Next time I find something suspicious or I agree with someone, should I wait a few hours before posting it? That way, it's not "right after" the person who made what I thought is so far, the only progress towards finding scum?
You FoSing me is really just silly and makes you seem very suspicious.
If I fully believed he's scum, I would have voted for him. But I didn't.
@Everyone who's voting for me- So you think I'm scum because I said a guy might be scum?
I think you're scum because you're deliberately misrepresenting a misunderstanding.
I think you're scum because rather than overlook a mistake, you are attempting to create distrust. That, to me, is scummy. You can feel free to try and prove me wrong. But I sincerely do not think you will flip town.
@Bush What's Ad Hom mean? (Sorry if that's a dumb question).
You mean Burst, right?
Ad hom stands for "ad hominem", which means "to the man"/"to the person" in Latin. Wikipedia defines it as "an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it".
There's nothing in the rules about editing posts? Usually that's a modkill offense. Seeing as this is probably IBs first game I'll regard that as a null tell. (refering to post #100)
Much like my jester tell.
It's not in the opening post, but now I am awared that:
a) There is no jester
and
b) Never edit a post.
And that is because the toothpaste, once it leaves the tube, cannot be reinserted easily. Once the slip has been made, it has been made.
Unfortunately, this happens to townies to when they Misunderstand, then they get pushed to a lynch and end up being town. Because they pushed to hard on thinking it was a scum slip.
Yes, perfect for trying to stir up some suspicion.
That's less suspicion stirred then a full on vote.
At this point I'm not really for or against Tezz but what I am saying is that it may have just been a mistake and I do not want to go down a town on day 1. I want to nail some scum.
Unfortunately, this happens to townies to when they Misunderstand, then they get pushed to a lynch and end up being town. Because they pushed to hard on thinking it was a scum slip.
That's less suspicion stirred then a full on vote.
At this point I'm not really for or against Tezz but what I am saying is that it may have just been a mistake and I do not want to go down a town on day 1. I want to nail some scum.
How about you use less pronouns and answer it again.
I'm asking, what do you think it means that GigaRage claims to have voted for Seppel for a joke, yet continued to vote for him.
Nope.
Why did you unvote?
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Oh, I thought you meant what I thought about Giga trying to justify his vote by saying it was a joke. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I think that it means either:
A) He forgot to unvote.
OR
B) It wasn't actually a joke, and him saying it was a joke was retroactive reasoning to cover for the scumminess of the vote/lynch push.
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It must be that I'm always wanting RVS to go on just a little longer before we get at each other's throats...
With that I'll Unvote for now. I'm still not convinced on GigaRage though, and so no vote for right now.
I read the previous posts and now this doesn't make sense since Giga did unvote prior to this? Why the sudden vote when Giga had explained himself? Seems a bit odd.
What do you think about the way Giga explained himself?
Did Giga unvote before or after people questioned his logic?
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These quotes come in order. Take it for what it is worth. I have suspicions, but not enough to make an offical vote.
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Do you actually have a reason?
@Burstinatrix:
Why not?
Are you voting him because you think he's scum, or just to see what happens?
Also, what changed between your previous post (where you didn't feel like it was something to vote him over) and this one?
Erebus (1): infectiousbaloth
Ceej (2): MandersHex, LuckNorris
GigaRage (3): Seppel, tezzeret12, Burstinatrix
Not Voting (6): Wheat_Grinder, GigaRage, Ceej, TheVoid958, Erebus, Cyouni
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Giga's votes seemed like a joke at first, but the way he pushed it and didn't unvote is a bit unsettling. Noted, but I don't think it's worth a vote yet.
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Because I don't think it means he's scum. It's somewhat suspicious, but that doesn't merit me tunneling him.
I'm voting him because I'm suspicious of him and would like to see how he responds to pressure.
Giga unvoted.
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I have no idea if anyone has guessed it yet, and we're moving today, so this is about all I will be able to post for the rest of the day.
Ceej's first two posts, he went out of his way to specify that his vote and his actions were due to the RVS. I've caught scum for this before, so it always sends up a red flag. That is why I'm voting for him.
Hopefully I'll be able to catch up and rejoin the game completely tomorrow, Monday or Tuesday at the latest.
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Jesters don't exist in basics. That's a null tell.
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Ah. My mistake then. This is my first game of mafia ever and I was unaware that basics don't have jesters. My apologies.
unFoS Ceej
That doesn't mean one won't be posted, but until I do, and it is met, this day will not end unless someone receives 7 votes or 7 people vote No-lynch.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
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Only partially correct: Jesters do not exist in ANY games on this site.
@TIK: You misspelled the first part of BoomerAANG in the title of the thread.
Vote Tezzeret12
You are being way too quick to create suspicion. FoS'ing is hardly jumping on a wagon, especially when he says that he was mistaken on the appearance of Jester roles.
When Manders did it I thought it was still RVS and I never thought about it afterwards.
As to the second question, I feel that this is different because you caused suspicion over something that was a misunderstanding.
You make this action after infectiousbaloth takes his action back. This looks likes a blantant attack on someone who misunderstood. I'm with Wheat Grinder on this one.
Vote: tezzeret12
You claim that I am bad at reading, but this is the course of actions that have taken place. It is pure pity that you are accussing my of bad reding when everything here is in plain english.
My vote stands. I highly believe that tezzeret12 is scum.
You still think that a misunderstanding about rules is a good reason to FoS someone...
Incredible, the more you try to defend your action, the more you like scum IMO.
We've been over this; I think RVS lasts longer than it does.
Probably not. But it passed away in the wind.
I would skip into a sunset with you everyday forever.
Conclusion: ad hom.
And more ad hom.
Too much ad hom.
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Non-Staff Quasi-ModI have never heard of that tell before. Can you provide examples of where it's happened?
@tezzeret:
Misrepresentation of argument.
How does this have any relation?
Do you believe he's scum because of that?
@TheVoid:
Why does that make him scum?
@Burstinatrix:
Why does that make him scum?
I smell fish all of sudden...
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Non-Staff Quasi-ModDo you have a reason for why it make him scum versus him being an idiot?
I wouldn't call it jumping on a wagon. There isn't much to go on right now and I felt like Ceej was fishing. I made a mistake and it looks like someone's trying to capitalize on that and cull the weak member of the herd.
Call me a wagon jumper if you want, you can call it OMGUSing if you really want to, but I'll stick to my guns on this one.
vote Tezzeret 12
EDIT to avoid double posting:
If you look at the timestamps on her post and mine, they are 19 minutes apart. I read what she said and looked back at the thread, still trying to decipher what she meant. I posted when I thought I found what was suspicious. Next time I find something suspicious or I agree with someone, should I wait a few hours before posting it? That way, it's not "right after" the person who made what I thought is so far, the only progress towards finding scum?
You FoSing me is really just silly and makes you seem very suspicious.
This is to maintain the integrity of the game.
Got it. It won't happen again.
I don't like how Tezzeret is quick to put suspicion on people, but I don't think it is enough to warrant a vote at this point.
InfectiousBaloth's vote was pretty parroted, but I can see where he is coming from.
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Personal attacks are scummy. Do you disagree?
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I think you're scum because you're deliberately misrepresenting a misunderstanding.
I think you're scum because rather than overlook a mistake, you are attempting to create distrust. That, to me, is scummy. You can feel free to try and prove me wrong. But I sincerely do not think you will flip town.
No. We think you're scum because you took a situation in which someone was obviously mistaken and tried to rouse suspicion over it.
You mean Burst, right?
Ad hom stands for "ad hominem", which means "to the man"/"to the person" in Latin. Wikipedia defines it as "an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it".
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NO MORE EDITS, CONSIDER THIS THE FINAL WARNING FOR ALL OF YOU. MOD KILLS WILL BE PERFORMED IF I SEE IT AGAIN.
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Much like my jester tell.
It's not in the opening post, but now I am awared that:
a) There is no jester
and
b) Never edit a post.
I appreciate the help.
My bad. I am now awared. Back to the mafia.
(I'm just very used to the risk of infractions for doubleposting.)
And that is because the toothpaste, once it leaves the tube, cannot be reinserted easily. Once the slip has been made, it has been made.
Even after IB said it was a mistake hours before you posted?
Yes, perfect for trying to stir up some suspicion.
Aaaaand even more ad hom.
Since the slip, all you've been doing is flailing and using ad hom.
Unfortunately, this happens to townies to when they Misunderstand, then they get pushed to a lynch and end up being town. Because they pushed to hard on thinking it was a scum slip.
That's less suspicion stirred then a full on vote.
At this point I'm not really for or against Tezz but what I am saying is that it may have just been a mistake and I do not want to go down a town on day 1. I want to nail some scum.
So you think Tezz is town?
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