Yeah, that's not OMGUS. Notice the reasoning. OMGUS isn't attacking your attacker, it's attacking your attacker WITHOUT REASONING and BECAUSE HE'S YOUR ATTACKER. If I did that, it would be something along the lines of
I'm not scum yet you're attacking me. Vote: Pinkfloyd
Honestly? There is never any proof. There can be no proof short of a cop investigation. He's more likely to be scum than other people. The @Everyone part is really forced...The repetition in it shows that. In fact, I would almost be willing to say that the repetition is scummier than what pinky did. Oh, and thinking everybody that jumped on that wagon is scum? That is either some really awful thinking, or scum trying to get a mislynch. Combining these, I'd say you are our most likely scum.
Vote: pinkfloyd
Oh, and there is still a reason for the pinky vote. I'll reveal it when everyone posts.
All I see is "OMGUS, OMGUS!!!"
How is there a reason? And Sir Mu saying "Oh yeah at L-3, lets speed lynch*" should scream scum to any town player.
*paraphrase
For chirst sake, pinky hasn't even had the chance to come in here and defend himself. Also, since when is scum hunting considered scummy? At least I have evidence of scum behavior to back up my claims.
How is there a reason? And Sir Mu saying "Oh yeah at L-3, lets speed lynch*" should scream scum to any town player.
*paraphrase
For chirst sake, pinky hasn't even had the chance to come in here and defend himself. Also, since when is scum hunting considered scummy? At least I have evidence of scum behavior to back up my claims.
I really think you are scum at this point.
If you want to use OMGUS, learn what it means.
Again, there is a reason. He had a post, and in that post he did something scummy. Therefore, there is a reason.
I encourage pinky to come in here and defend himself. However, when that happens, I would like for there to be at least 1 more vote on him. And scum hunting isn't scummy. FAKE scum hunting is scummy, which is what your post read as.
Good to know. Any actual response to my points against you?
Oh and the @everyone comment was to wake the town up, I can't believe no one else see's how scum this wagon is
So you believe that the town is not going to read the rest of the post where you lay out what you think is proof of me being scum, and just read the @Everyone part? And that they need to be told twice you think me and mu are scum?
You are voting me because I called you and Sir Mu scum.
Again, there is a reason. He had a post, and in that post he did something scummy. Therefore, there is a reason.
What was scummy about his post? In fact, your buddy Sir Mu pretty much said he decided from drawing out a hat!
I encourage pinky to come in here and defend himself. However, when that happens, I would like for there to be at least 1 more vote on him. And scum hunting isn't scummy. FAKE scum hunting is scummy, which is what your post read as.
WHY?? He already has too many for this early in the game.
Good to know. Any actual response to my points against you?
What didn't I answer thoroughly enough?
So you believe that the town is not going to read the rest of the post where you lay out what you think is proof of me being scum, and just read the @Everyone part? And that they need to be told twice you think me and mu are scum?
There is a lot of new players in this game and many people haven't posted yet.
You are voting me because I called you and Sir Mu scum.
What was scummy about his post? In fact, your buddy Sir Mu pretty much said he decided from drawing out a hat!
WHY?? He already has too many for this early in the game.
What didn't I answer thoroughly enough?
There is a lot of new players in this game and many people haven't posted yet.
WRONG! Strike 1! Read the post again. And the one I make after it.
The drawing from a hat part was (hopefully) a joke. I assumed it to be. And I would suggest reading that post, specifically the part where I say that I will wait until everyone posts.
2 is too many?
Why is everyone on the wagon scum? Why the repetition? Why is proof necessary rather than reasonable suspicion?
And saying "Everyone, Sir Mu and Gigas are scum. Tezz isn't. Sir Mu and Gigas are scum" will make them post? They haven't posted because they haven't read the thread. If anybody would like to come forward and say that they did post because of that, I will gleefully withdraw this point, though.
WRONG! Strike 1! Read the post again. And the one I make after it.
I read what you said but I feel you made it as an OMGUS vote. Thats how I've interpreted it.
The drawing from a hat part was (hopefully) a joke. I assumed it to be. And I would suggest reading that post, specifically the part where I say that I will wait until everyone posts.
It wasn't a joke, he said it wasn't multiple times.
2 is too many?
I was told he was on 3.
Why is everyone on the wagon scum? Why the repetition? Why is proof necessary rather than reasonable suspicion?
I didn't say everyone, I said you and Sir Mu. The repetition is to show multiple pieces of evidence, not just on comment to make a claim on. Saying he is scum because you drew it out a hat and that he should be speed lynched isn't "reasonable" suspicion.
And saying "Everyone, Sir Mu and Gigas are scum. Tezz isn't. Sir Mu and Gigas are scum" will make them post? They haven't posted because they haven't read the thread. If anybody would like to come forward and say that they did post because of that, I will gleefully withdraw this point, though.
Well, lets wait and see if others find my posts legit or if you are more town than I say.
Oh and its 1:20AM here so I'm going to bed. I'll post again in the arvo.
All of you people, doubting the hat. And here I thought you were a true believer in the hat, Gigas. The hat is not a joke. There is no RVS. I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat this.
Also, allow me to laugh heartily at the fool comment. Remember:
I read what you said but I feel you made it as an OMGUS vote. Thats how I've interpreted it.
It wasn't a joke, he said it wasn't multiple times.
I was told he was on 3.
I didn't say everyone, I said you and Sir Mu. The repetition is to show multiple pieces of evidence, not just on comment to make a claim on. Saying he is scum because you drew it out a hat and that he should be speed lynched isn't "reasonable" suspicion.
Well, lets wait and see if others find my posts legit or if you are more town than I say.
Oh and its 1:20AM here so I'm going to bed. I'll post again in the arvo.
I read what you say, but I interpret it as WIFOM. There, I don't have to respond to it now, even though it is clearly not WIFOM, do I?
I assumed it was a running gag.
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When you went through, you posted that tezz was scum for joining the wagon. It doesn't matter that you later said ho wasn't scum because he left, you said he was scum for joining the wagon, which then implies you believe that if you were on the wagon, you were scum. The repetition that I was specifically referring to was when you posted basically the same sentence twice in 3 sentences. Sounds like someone who's been possessed, perhaps?
Well, even if people disagree with me, that doesn't mean you aren't scum. It just means you are good at being scum. Or town, which this discussion is beginning to make me consider.
Yes, but he later retracted the scum statement from me because I thought it was RVS. Which I think Mu needs to realize that it's no longer...
Yes, I recognize that. But why did he think you were scum in the first place? For joining the wagon. Why did he stop thinking you were scum? For leaving the wagon. That's my point.
Yes, but isn't the norm based upon the general populations belief? We have two people who believe in the hat's powers. We have four who don't. I have the majority. Therefore you are the heretic.
This is partially why I want to see you lynched today. While it's funny, I would like some actual information on why you think pinky should die.
The hat is actual information.
You want me lynched because I believe in the hat? I mean, sure you're a heretic for not believing in that hat, but I'm not going to lynch you for it. Tolerance, man.
The hat is not actual information. My hat told me that we needed to lynch Yanni today, and that I should've vig shot Seppel in the pregame. But since I'm not vig, and those two aren't playing, hats do not work.
I don't want you lynched because you have the hat, I want you lynched because you're jumping on people completely unneccasserily during RVS!
Your hat is not the true hat. My hat is the true hat. That's why your hat doesn't work, and mine does.
And there is no RVS. Even if there was, isn't jumping on people the point of RVS?
Fine. Then can your hat tell me what my name is? Here, throw three pieces of paper in said hat one with Eric, another with Johnathan, and a third with James.
And point taken on the RVS thing. I meant more like a legitimate, focused attack on some random person.
First part: The hat is exclusively used to find scum.
The hat is never wrong. The hat tells the truth. The hat is your scum-hunting lord and savior, you must follow the hat's word to the letter. The hat says that pinkys_brian is scum.
The ten commandments of the hat:
I am the Hat your Truth
You shall have no other Hats before me
You shall not make yourself a Hat
Do not take the name of the Hat in vain
Honor thy game moderator and co-moderator
You shall kill and murder scum
You shall not try and get town lynched
pinkys_brian is scum
tezzeret12 and kill-joy are town, but currently heretics
Heretics shall be laughed at after the game is over and have their avatars changed because they made a bet against the Hat
There's a 1/4 or a 1/3 (I can't remember) chance that he's town. Since the hat is completely random, the bet is in my favor. I was just trash talking I guess.
There's a 1/4 or a 1/3 (I can't remember) chance that he's town. Since the hat is completely random, the bet is in my favor. I was just trash talking I guess.
It's a 3/4 chance he's town if it's random...
And I already said that I'm not certain, as evidenced by my vote change.
So is it wanting to continue RVS or that Mu is scum?
As of post 54 I declare kill-joy town. He's trying to make sense out of chaos, where as scum will just climb on Mu's wagon and laugh all the way.
DEAL.
It helps like I like My Little Pony anyway.
Note: This deal is considered null and void if you are scum, kill-joy. Can't have insider knowledge ruining my bet. As such, if I'm wrong, I'll change it after and if you've revealed town (whether that be game end or when you die.)
Now get to lynching pinky.
Note this deal does not include him being scum or when he will change said avatar. Plus avatar bets are stupid!
Scum will say, hey I was scum so I lied to push a mislynch. Or he will change it and blame others for following him on a hat theory.
Oy.
Yeah, you are clearly town. Now, when Pinky next posts, he should claim. I don't care that he's not at L-2 yet, he should still claim. Meanwhile, more people should vote him. Let's get a lynch before 72 hours of day!
scum detected!
demanding a claim without a reason on an RVS BW based on a hat.
woop!
Woop
Woop
And that quickly Tezz as of page 5, post 74 is the second scum I found with his contradiction on making a plan but not being a person who typically plans.
Giving Sir Mu town points, then quickly goes back to null and scummy for not pointing out the contradiction and continuing his crusade of hat talk.
The whole arguement between Tezz and sir mu on page 11 look like two bickering childern.
So far to this point Gigas and Tezz are the scummiest. Gigas asking for a claim already based on BW votes. Also when it comes to BW's that has no reasoning like this one I agree with Pinkfloyd that scum are more likely to ride the wave. However Sir Mu (and the headache I have reading the hat comment ove and over) has no reason to behave this way as scum. It gets noticed and questioned more. Scum would rather lurk or go by unnoticed.
Like example the vote on Gigas from Scarius (sorry if I miss spelled the name).
Tezz contradiction stands out as well. Going from plan to I don't have plans. He's defensive when question from Sir Mu. I don't like the votes on Sir Mu either or the push. I never consider scum = stupid or stubborn.
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He thinks the way pinkfloyd over-reacted to the hat was scummy. I can see where he's coming from, but I wouldn't say pinkfloyd is scum for sure. We're much more likely likely (100% likely, in fact) to lynch scum if we lynch pinky_brian.
So far to this point Gigas and Tezz are the scummiest. Gigas asking for a claim already based on BW votes. Also when it comes to BW's that has no reasoning like this one I agree with Pinkfloyd that scum are more likely to ride the wave. However Sir Mu (and the headache I have reading the hat comment ove and over) has no reason to behave this way as scum. It gets noticed and questioned more. Scum would rather lurk or go by unnoticed.
I have reasoning other than the hat. However, this post undoes all of it. I know longer consider it likely that you are scum.
If he flips town you have to change it to My Little Pony for 6 months.
You rang?
Also, nearly 200 posts in under 24 hours with relatively no content is such BS to have to wade through. Sir Mu's being an idiot, pretty much end of story.
Sir Mu: If your all about your hat helping you, please make sure you set the hat to find you scum and not a girlfriend. It may be hunting for one of the few females in the game for you and not scum.
On a more serious note:
Gigas: Why did you ask for a claim so early in the game without a response from me?
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Also, nearly 200 posts in under 24 hours with relatively no content is such BS to have to wade through. Sir Mu's being an idiot, pretty much end of story.
Hey man, I don't take kindly to being called an idiot.
Sir Mu: If your all about your hat helping you, please make sure you set the hat to find you scum and not a girlfriend. It may be hunting for one of the few females in the game for you and not scum.
On a more serious note:
Gigas: Why did you ask for a claim so early in the game without a response from me?
Sir Mu: If your all about your hat helping you, please make sure you set the hat to find you scum and not a girlfriend. It may be hunting for one of the few females in the game for you and not scum.
On a more serious note:
Gigas: Why did you ask for a claim so early in the game without a response from me?
I believed that there was a good chance you would mess it up. I thought that being forced to come up with a good fakeclaim less than 24 hours into the game could cause a very bad falseclaim.
Also, nearly 200 posts in under 24 hours with relatively no content is such BS to have to wade through. Sir Mu's being an idiot, pretty much end of story.
Also, there's loads of content. Most important is that kill-joy and tezzeret12 are confirmed town.
Gigas is town. Why? He is the only one who is actually, and there are people that are trying to call him out on it. This being pinkfloyd. His biggest point against Gigas is that Gigas is 'OMGUSing' him. Once it was proven that this wasn't OMGUS, he insists it was, and holds his vote on Gigas. Pink, you need actual reasoning, and the longer you attempt to push on Gigas without any will hurt you more and more.
Sir Mu, you are a ninny. And not the amusing ninny like vezokPiraka that CAN ACTUALLY help the town when it comes to it. There were only a couple very very minor tells that can be used from that, the whole hat debacle really threw null tells and town confusion everywhere. Stop. Play the game. At this point I don't see what you did as exactly scummy, but I would strongly advise you to stop being bat**** crazy. Or at least posting reasoning behind your craziness other than the hat.
Also wow, ITT people who don't understand a joke. Gigas calling for the claim of pinkys_brian was a huge one. The 'I don't care that he is not at L-2!' part didn't catch anyone? Guilty cop investigations still get to wait until L-2 to claim, although that doesn't usually take that long. It would maybe have worked if he bit and made a very bad claim, as Gigas noted above, but it is a tactic that you probably want to avoid. Forcing early claims is a majority of the time very bad for the town.
Scarius, the longer you go without reasoning, or anything even, is worse and worse for you. I highly encourage you to post something soon.
Vote pinkfloyd I endorse some more votes over here.
I am not a ninny. You want the method behind my madness? I was sick and tired of taking mafia so seriously and tried to take a different route to scumhunting, one in which I could laugh and toy around a bit. It just so happens that I caught two town, which is still not bad. I wouldn't put Gigas is the town pile just yet, but I'll say he's leaning town.
I still say the hat knows all, and I'm keeping my bet, but I will be changing my vote. Your post Anaklusmos, oh, your post. I have a theory about your post. Either you're right and pinkfloyd is scum and or you're wrong and you're scum. I'm leaning you being scum at the moment, but too many wagons hurts the town, as then we take forever on a day 1 arguing over points that don't matter. Just like my questioning of tezzeret.
Also, just to clear up any misconceptions any of you may have about my argumentation regarding pinkfloyd and Anaklusmos, it's that the way both pinkfloyd and Anaklusmos posted makes me think that one or the other is scum, but not both. And they are both certainly not town, I'll eat a hundred hats before I believe that. And then I still won't believe it, but I will be full of hats.
For now, I'll place my vote on pinkfloyd, even though I think Anaklusmos is scummier, because I don't foresee an Anaklusmos wagon taking off day one, at least not day one right now. Plus if pinkfloyd flips town (or ends up claiming an un CC'd power role) then I view you all of being much more receptive to the idea of Anaklusmos being scum.
The drawing from a hat part was (hopefully) a joke. I assumed it to be. And I would suggest reading that post, specifically the part where I say that I will wait until everyone posts.
It's gone on for too long for me to think he was kidding. I don't believe he is anymore.
Page 1: Sir Mu pushes a BW on me. Null tell. Calling Tezz town for joining said BW is more questionable as joining BW is a null tell.
Also worth noting is he never said I was scum for being on it, albiet momentarily, until I realized Mu was probably being serious.
So is it wanting to continue RVS or that Mu is scum?
I believe at that point a little of both.
And that quickly Tezz as of page 5, post 74 is the second scum I found with his contradiction on making a plan but not being a person who typically plans.
That doesn't make sense...
That whole part of the convo seemed to me irrelevant for the most part.
And even if he did contradict himself on it, contradiction of an irrelevant point is a null tell.
Giving Sir Mu town points, then quickly goes back to null and scummy for not pointing out the contradiction and continuing his crusade of hat talk.
I'm sorry... Town points for Mu? What has he done this game that's been of a townie midset? I'm not seeing it.
So far to this point Gigas and Tezz are the scummiest. Gigas asking for a claim already based on BW votes. Also when it comes to BW's that has no reasoning like this one I agree with Pinkfloyd that scum are more likely to ride the wave.
I'm not seeing Tezz as scummy just yet. When he realized that Mu's thing wasn't a joke he promptly unvoted instead of riding the wave on your lynch.
However Sir Mu (and the headache I have reading the hat comment ove and over) has no reason to behave this way as scum. It gets noticed and questioned more. Scum would rather lurk or go by unnoticed.
Not true. He wanted a speedlynch. It was a gambit, and it failed.
Now that he can't get it he can't just jump onto another wagon without being noticed.
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Fos: Gigas
I can't believe I'm about to say this... but this seems like you're trying to take the heat off of Mu.
Which in turn makes you possible scum.
(I just pictured Lurch from the Addam's Family when I read that.)
Also, nearly 200 posts in under 24 hours with relatively no content is such BS to have to wade through. Sir Mu's being an idiot, pretty much end of story.
I had to do that for one of my other games. I feel your pain.
I agree on the point of Mu being SOMETHING.... but he's a scummy something.
Gigas is town. Why? He is the only one who is actually, and there are people that are trying to call him out on it.
So your reasoning is...
"He's town because he's town and people are arguing with him about it"?
Is that what you're saying, or am I reading this wrong?
This being pinkfloyd. His biggest point against Gigas is that Gigas is 'OMGUSing' him. Once it was proven that this wasn't OMGUS, he insists it was, and holds his vote on Gigas. Pink, you need actual reasoning, and the longer you attempt to push on Gigas without any will hurt you more and more.
I think that this analysis is correct. I'm not sure what to make of PF yet.
Sir Mu, you are a ninny. And not the amusing ninny like vezokPiraka that CAN ACTUALLY help the town when it comes to it. There were only a couple very very minor tells that can be used from that, the whole hat debacle really threw null tells and town confusion everywhere. Stop. Play the game. At this point I don't see what you did as exactly scummy, but I would strongly advise you to stop being bat**** crazy. Or at least posting reasoning behind your craziness other than the hat.
If he stops the whole thing now
Also wow, ITT people who don't understand a joke. Gigas calling for the claim of pinkys_brian was a huge one. The 'I don't care that he is not at L-2!' part didn't catch anyone? Guilty cop investigations still get to wait until L-2 to claim, although that doesn't usually take that long. It would maybe have worked if he bit and made a very bad claim, as Gigas noted above, but it is a tactic that you probably want to avoid. Forcing early claims is a majority of the time very bad for the town.
I believed that there was a good chance you would mess it up. I thought that being forced to come up with a good fakeclaim less than 24 hours into the game could cause a very bad falseclaim.
That's what he was going for. Forcing a (false) claim.
Scarius, the longer you go without reasoning, or anything even, is worse and worse for you. I highly encourage you to post something soon.
Vote pinkfloyd I endorse some more votes over here.
I'm not ready to vote for PF just yet.
I still feel Mu is the lynch for today.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I believed that there was a good chance you would mess it up. I thought that being forced to come up with a good fakeclaim less than 24 hours into the game could cause a very bad falseclaim.
Your pushing a claim early based on RVS comment and mr.happypants hat. That's a hard to believe.
Anaklusmos stated:
Pink, you need actual reasoning, and the longer you attempt to push on Gigas without any will hurt you more and more.
If he's scum why is this a concern?
Anaklusmos post comes off as telling people what to watch out for and almost feels like a teacher telling kids how to behave. If something is scummy it's scummy. How does it hurt a player if they are scum and you catch them?
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It's gone on for too long for me to think he was kidding. I don't believe he is anymore.
Also worth noting is he never said I was scum for being on it, albiet momentarily, until I realized Mu was probably being serious.
I believe at that point a little of both.
That doesn't make sense...
That whole part of the convo seemed to me irrelevant for the most part.
And even if he did contradict himself on it, contradiction of an irrelevant point is a null tell.
I'm sorry... Town points for Mu? What has he done this game that's been of a townie midset? I'm not seeing it.
I'm not seeing Tezz as scummy just yet. When he realized that Mu's thing wasn't a joke he promptly unvoted instead of riding the wave on your lynch.
Not true. He wanted a speedlynch. It was a gambit, and it failed.
Now that he can't get it he can't just jump onto another wagon without being noticed.
I can't believe I'm about to say this... but this seems like you're trying to take the heat off of Mu.
Which in turn makes you possible scum.
Your hat still means nothing to me, Mu.
(I just pictured Lurch from the Addam's Family when I read that.)
I had to do that for one of my other games. I feel your pain.
I agree on the point of Mu being SOMETHING.... but he's a scummy something.
So your reasoning is...
"He's town because he's town and people are arguing with him about it"?
Is that what you're saying, or am I reading this wrong?
I think that this analysis is correct. I'm not sure what to make of PF yet.
If he stops the whole thing now
But it wasn't a joke. He even said here:
That's what he was going for. Forcing a (false) claim.
I'm not ready to vote for PF just yet.
I still feel Mu is the lynch for today.
Excuse me while I go bash my head into a table a few times and then quit mafia forever do to serious 'brian' damage.
I am so frustrated right now you don't even know. It's taking all my willpower to not just replace out because I replaced in to help get this game going and I'm not going back on my good will.
All I see is "OMGUS, OMGUS!!!"
How is there a reason? And Sir Mu saying "Oh yeah at L-3, lets speed lynch*" should scream scum to any town player.
*paraphrase
For chirst sake, pinky hasn't even had the chance to come in here and defend himself. Also, since when is scum hunting considered scummy? At least I have evidence of scum behavior to back up my claims.
I really think you are scum at this point.
LOL
LOL
If you want to use OMGUS, learn what it means.
Again, there is a reason. He had a post, and in that post he did something scummy. Therefore, there is a reason.
I encourage pinky to come in here and defend himself. However, when that happens, I would like for there to be at least 1 more vote on him. And scum hunting isn't scummy. FAKE scum hunting is scummy, which is what your post read as.
Good to know. Any actual response to my points against you?
So you believe that the town is not going to read the rest of the post where you lay out what you think is proof of me being scum, and just read the @Everyone part? And that they need to be told twice you think me and mu are scum?
You are voting me because I called you and Sir Mu scum.
What was scummy about his post? In fact, your buddy Sir Mu pretty much said he decided from drawing out a hat!
WHY?? He already has too many for this early in the game.
What didn't I answer thoroughly enough?
There is a lot of new players in this game and many people haven't posted yet.
LOL
Any reasoning man?
LOL
WRONG! Strike 1! Read the post again. And the one I make after it.
The drawing from a hat part was (hopefully) a joke. I assumed it to be. And I would suggest reading that post, specifically the part where I say that I will wait until everyone posts.
2 is too many?
Why is everyone on the wagon scum? Why the repetition? Why is proof necessary rather than reasonable suspicion?
And saying "Everyone, Sir Mu and Gigas are scum. Tezz isn't. Sir Mu and Gigas are scum" will make them post? They haven't posted because they haven't read the thread. If anybody would like to come forward and say that they did post because of that, I will gleefully withdraw this point, though.
I read what you said but I feel you made it as an OMGUS vote. Thats how I've interpreted it.
It wasn't a joke, he said it wasn't multiple times.
I was told he was on 3.
I didn't say everyone, I said you and Sir Mu. The repetition is to show multiple pieces of evidence, not just on comment to make a claim on. Saying he is scum because you drew it out a hat and that he should be speed lynched isn't "reasonable" suspicion.
Well, lets wait and see if others find my posts legit or if you are more town than I say.
Oh and its 1:20AM here so I'm going to bed. I'll post again in the arvo.
LOL
Also, allow me to laugh heartily at the fool comment. Remember:
Pinkfloyd, are you in cahoots with pinky_brian? Are you both pinko commies?
Whatever happened to the good old capitalistic values of apple pie and listening to the hat?
I assumed it was a running gag.
@mod: Votecount, please.
When you went through, you posted that tezz was scum for joining the wagon. It doesn't matter that you later said ho wasn't scum because he left, you said he was scum for joining the wagon, which then implies you believe that if you were on the wagon, you were scum. The repetition that I was specifically referring to was when you posted basically the same sentence twice in 3 sentences. Sounds like someone who's been possessed, perhaps?
Well, even if people disagree with me, that doesn't mean you aren't scum. It just means you are good at being scum. Or town, which this discussion is beginning to make me consider.
Scarius, a bit of a bigger post would be nice.
Yes, I recognize that. But why did he think you were scum in the first place? For joining the wagon. Why did he stop thinking you were scum? For leaving the wagon. That's my point.
HERETIC!
Note that I am not on that wagon, I am voting pinkfloyd
Excuse me, but just because the majority believes the wrong thing doesn't make that belief non-heretical.
No sir, you are the heretic.
And then tezzeret was a zombie.
Sir Mu (3) - kill-joy, pinkfloyd, tezzeret12
pinkfloyd (2) - InUtterDarkness, Gigas1,
InUtterDarkness (1) - pinkys_brian
pinkys_brian (1) - Sir Mu
Gigas1 (1) - Scarius
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(You were supposed to respond "Ya huh!")
You are the zombie.
The hat is actual information.
You want me lynched because I believe in the hat? I mean, sure you're a heretic for not believing in that hat, but I'm not going to lynch you for it. Tolerance, man.
Your hat is not the true hat. My hat is the true hat. That's why your hat doesn't work, and mine does.
And there is no RVS. Even if there was, isn't jumping on people the point of RVS?
First part: The hat is exclusively used to find scum.
Second part: Eh?
The hat is information.
You don't seem to understand this.
The hat is never wrong. The hat tells the truth. The hat is your scum-hunting lord and savior, you must follow the hat's word to the letter. The hat says that pinkys_brian is scum.
The ten commandments of the hat:
I assume you mean if he's scum, which he is. In which case, your avatar will become a picture of The Hat.
I'm not sure about kill-joy's, yet.
The hat is not random. The hat is truth.
It's a 3/4 chance he's town if it's random...
And I already said that I'm not certain, as evidenced by my vote change.
Killjoy:
Very next post about Mu:
So is it wanting to continue RVS or that Mu is scum?
As of post 54 I declare kill-joy town. He's trying to make sense out of chaos, where as scum will just climb on Mu's wagon and laugh all the way.
Note this deal does not include him being scum or when he will change said avatar. Plus avatar bets are stupid!
Scum will say, hey I was scum so I lied to push a mislynch. Or he will change it and blame others for following him on a hat theory.
Oy.
scum detected!
demanding a claim without a reason on an RVS BW based on a hat.
woop!
Woop
Woop
And that quickly Tezz as of page 5, post 74 is the second scum I found with his contradiction on making a plan but not being a person who typically plans.
Giving Sir Mu town points, then quickly goes back to null and scummy for not pointing out the contradiction and continuing his crusade of hat talk.
The whole arguement between Tezz and sir mu on page 11 look like two bickering childern.
So far to this point Gigas and Tezz are the scummiest. Gigas asking for a claim already based on BW votes. Also when it comes to BW's that has no reasoning like this one I agree with Pinkfloyd that scum are more likely to ride the wave. However Sir Mu (and the headache I have reading the hat comment ove and over) has no reason to behave this way as scum. It gets noticed and questioned more. Scum would rather lurk or go by unnoticed.
Like example the vote on Gigas from Scarius (sorry if I miss spelled the name).
Tezz contradiction stands out as well. Going from plan to I don't have plans. He's defensive when question from Sir Mu. I don't like the votes on Sir Mu either or the push. I never consider scum = stupid or stubborn.
unvote:
vote: tezzeret12
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I have reasoning other than the hat. However, this post undoes all of it. I know longer consider it likely that you are scum.
You rang?
Also, nearly 200 posts in under 24 hours with relatively no content is such BS to have to wade through. Sir Mu's being an idiot, pretty much end of story.
On a more serious note:
Gigas: Why did you ask for a claim so early in the game without a response from me?
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Hey man, I don't take kindly to being called an idiot.
Being female doesn't excuse you from being scum.
I believed that there was a good chance you would mess it up. I thought that being forced to come up with a good fakeclaim less than 24 hours into the game could cause a very bad falseclaim.
Also, there's loads of content. Most important is that kill-joy and tezzeret12 are confirmed town.
Gigas is town. Why? He is the only one who is actually, and there are people that are trying to call him out on it. This being pinkfloyd. His biggest point against Gigas is that Gigas is 'OMGUSing' him. Once it was proven that this wasn't OMGUS, he insists it was, and holds his vote on Gigas. Pink, you need actual reasoning, and the longer you attempt to push on Gigas without any will hurt you more and more.
Sir Mu, you are a ninny. And not the amusing ninny like vezokPiraka that CAN ACTUALLY help the town when it comes to it. There were only a couple very very minor tells that can be used from that, the whole hat debacle really threw null tells and town confusion everywhere. Stop. Play the game. At this point I don't see what you did as exactly scummy, but I would strongly advise you to stop being bat**** crazy. Or at least posting reasoning behind your craziness other than the hat.
Also wow, ITT people who don't understand a joke. Gigas calling for the claim of pinkys_brian was a huge one. The 'I don't care that he is not at L-2!' part didn't catch anyone? Guilty cop investigations still get to wait until L-2 to claim, although that doesn't usually take that long. It would maybe have worked if he bit and made a very bad claim, as Gigas noted above, but it is a tactic that you probably want to avoid. Forcing early claims is a majority of the time very bad for the town.
Scarius, the longer you go without reasoning, or anything even, is worse and worse for you. I highly encourage you to post something soon.
Vote pinkfloyd I endorse some more votes over here.
I still say the hat knows all, and I'm keeping my bet, but I will be changing my vote. Your post Anaklusmos, oh, your post. I have a theory about your post. Either you're right and pinkfloyd is scum and or you're wrong and you're scum. I'm leaning you being scum at the moment, but too many wagons hurts the town, as then we take forever on a day 1 arguing over points that don't matter. Just like my questioning of tezzeret.
Also, just to clear up any misconceptions any of you may have about my argumentation regarding pinkfloyd and Anaklusmos, it's that the way both pinkfloyd and Anaklusmos posted makes me think that one or the other is scum, but not both. And they are both certainly not town, I'll eat a hundred hats before I believe that. And then I still won't believe it, but I will be full of hats.
For now, I'll place my vote on pinkfloyd, even though I think Anaklusmos is scummier, because I don't foresee an Anaklusmos wagon taking off day one, at least not day one right now. Plus if pinkfloyd flips town (or ends up claiming an un CC'd power role) then I view you all of being much more receptive to the idea of Anaklusmos being scum.
Unvote Vote Pinkfloyd
Not and or you're wrong, what the heck kind of mistake is that.
Yea, post reasons, please.
It's gone on for too long for me to think he was kidding. I don't believe he is anymore.
Also worth noting is he never said I was scum for being on it, albiet momentarily, until I realized Mu was probably being serious.
I believe at that point a little of both.
That doesn't make sense...
That whole part of the convo seemed to me irrelevant for the most part.
And even if he did contradict himself on it, contradiction of an irrelevant point is a null tell.
I'm sorry... Town points for Mu? What has he done this game that's been of a townie midset? I'm not seeing it.
I'm not seeing Tezz as scummy just yet. When he realized that Mu's thing wasn't a joke he promptly unvoted instead of riding the wave on your lynch.
Not true. He wanted a speedlynch. It was a gambit, and it failed.
Now that he can't get it he can't just jump onto another wagon without being noticed.
I can't believe I'm about to say this... but this seems like you're trying to take the heat off of Mu.
Which in turn makes you possible scum.
Your hat still means nothing to me, Mu.
(I just pictured Lurch from the Addam's Family when I read that.)
I had to do that for one of my other games. I feel your pain.
I agree on the point of Mu being SOMETHING.... but he's a scummy something.
So your reasoning is...
"He's town because he's town and people are arguing with him about it"?
Is that what you're saying, or am I reading this wrong?
I think that this analysis is correct. I'm not sure what to make of PF yet.
If he stops the whole thing now
But it wasn't a joke. He even said here:
That's what he was going for. Forcing a (false) claim.
I'm not ready to vote for PF just yet.
I still feel Mu is the lynch for today.
Whatever you say Mr. Happypants
Your pushing a claim early based on RVS comment and mr.happypants hat. That's a hard to believe.
Anaklusmos stated:
If he's scum why is this a concern?
Anaklusmos post comes off as telling people what to watch out for and almost feels like a teacher telling kids how to behave. If something is scummy it's scummy. How does it hurt a player if they are scum and you catch them?
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Questioning players and pointing out Tezz contradiction was town points.
Why is someone that contradicts themself null?
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Excuse me while I go bash my head into a table a few times and then quit mafia forever do to serious 'brian' damage.
I am so frustrated right now you don't even know. It's taking all my willpower to not just replace out because I replaced in to help get this game going and I'm not going back on my good will.