I am looking for the games people are referencing and not finding them, could somoene either point me in the direction of or give me a link to symbiote/southpark?
I am looking for the games people are referencing and not finding them, could somoene either point me in the direction of or give me a link to symbiote/southpark?
I am looking for the games people are referencing and not finding them, could somoene either point me in the direction of or give me a link to symbiote/southpark?
I see three different newish people accused of being jordman and now i am too. Then i ask who he is and i get a bunch of weird different answers. Is this guy infamous or something?
I see three different newish people accused of being jordman and now i am too. Then i ask who he is and i get a bunch of weird different answers. Is this guy infamous or something?
Also thank you, I may in fact need new glasses.
jordman was a player here who got banned for really atrocious grammar and spelling that he refused to fix. He made some gimmicks and those got banned also. Now if I see someone new with any sort of spelling mistake I assume it's jordman (tbh, I didn't actually think you were him).
I see three different newish people accused of being jordman and now i am too. Then i ask who he is and i get a bunch of weird different answers. Is this guy infamous or something?
Also thank you, I may in fact need new glasses.
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I see three different newish people accused of being jordman and now i am too. Then i ask who he is and i get a bunch of weird different answers. Is this guy infamous or something?
Also thank you, I may in fact need new glasses.
Jordman is zen.
We are all Jordman.
Jordman is us.
Jordman is your mother
Jordman is your sister
Jordman is the conductor of the Devil's Orchestra
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Metal Gear Solid 2
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Assassin's Creed 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum
BioShock
Demon's Souls
Final Fantasy I, II, IV, VII & XII
Kingdom Hearts
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Mass Effect
Metal Gear Solid 4
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
unvote, vote zchinque for trying to get us all banned.
unvote, vote azrael because that's where my vote should really be.
But Senor Torpedo is watching you, Z.
Care to justify that vote? Excessive fluff noted.
I'm pretty sure the random phase is (long) over. Let's generate some content, people.
I support pressure against Azrael, ced395, indomitablebug, Skander, and Wrath_of_DoG.
Something feels off about you and I can't place it. Call it a gut read.
Considering his vote has at least a little justification behind hit, Mr. bug's last post post was him being silly, which is more annoying than scummy. A little pressure might do him some good.
My justification for the vote was there when I originally made it.
The random stage ended in the pregame, which I wasn't really paying attention to, because it was the pre-game. I understand that, but I don't see why that means I can't have a little fun with Z, him being the mod of the second game I played.
You're voting Az too, so I don't see how that could make me look bad, especially as you voted him after I did. Here I am, trying to apply pressure, and that makes me look scummy? It seems like you're trying to jump on any little thing you can, which almost seems fair considering how little content there is to judge anyone by at this juncture.
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My justification for the vote was there when I originally made it.
Indeed; at the time I made my post I had forgotten that you were the same player who had voted previously, probably because of your silly and distracting unvote/revote.
The random stage ended in the pregame, which I wasn't really paying attention to, because it was the pre-game. I understand that, but I don't see why that means I can't have a little fun with Z, him being the mod of the second game I played.
You're voting Az too, so I don't see how that could make me look bad, especially as you voted him after I did. Here I am, trying to apply pressure, and that makes me look scummy? It seems like you're trying to jump on any little thing you can, which almost seems fair considering how little content there is to judge anyone by at this juncture.
I don't have a problem with your vote any more. I do have a problem with what seems to be a lack of seriousness, though if you're true to your word you'll improve on that as well. (Note that there is a difference between having fun while playing and having fun instead of playing. I'm not trying to suck all the enjoyment out of the game; I just view a lack of caring as scummy)
Interesting. You have a retinue large enough to see to the evacuation of the normal staff and you're apparently PERSONALLY capable of dealing with a terrorist. That doesn't sound like any Politician I know of. (Example - The Secret Service is there to protect the President, POTUS should NEVER have to deal with something like a mad bomber directly.)
coughJackRyancough
No, I'm not claiming Jack Ryan (or any given name, for that matter). I'm just pointing out how useless that particular piece of mod-gaming is. My particular role thinks highly of himself, stayed behind to lead you all while his staff evacuated as many as they could, stumbled on the guy as he finished setting the bombs, and killed him. It's as good a way to set up the "why is there no staff in the remains of the resort? why are you still here?" as any, I guess. Blame the mod if it's too Tom Clancy for you
You were also the only one to try and make out that my opening speech was suspicious, and now a lame attempt to game the mod, so I have my eye on you. You are trying a bit too hard to make something happen here. But you aren't the most suspicious person around. Not yet, anyway.
Although I'm not thrilled with ibug's vote on Azrael, there's a difference between wrongheaded and insincere, and I feel his vote is the former while AI's is the latter. AI is also giving me a sense of insincerity through "what a good townie I am"-type comments like "Let's generate some content, people" (in a game hardly lacking in early activity) and by "supporting pressure" against no less than 5 players at this stage.
Well this game is moving along quite fast. Hard to keep up with it almoost. Reading along something about V just irks me. I don't like his interactions with town Manders and his vote on AI is just teribad. He is definatly on my scumdar fos V
In the mean time I support pressure on Az, his playstyle so far is similar to symbiote and with him being scum there I got to wonder if he isn't scum here to. vote azrael
/barn raf points about tilde, and ai. Still happy with pressueing az. I suscribe to the concentrate on one issue at a time style of play.
In the mean time I support pressure on Az, his playstyle so far is similar to symbiote and with him being scum there I got to wonder if he isn't scum here to. vote azrael
Have you compared it to his town meta, my good chap?
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Picross 3D
Assassin's Creed 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum
BioShock
Demon's Souls
Final Fantasy I, II, IV, VII & XII
Kingdom Hearts
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Mass Effect
Metal Gear Solid 4
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Is there a point to this? I was thinking PR maybe, you have to include it, but you didn't include it on a later post on this page, so yeah. Just wondering if there's a point to this or just you being silly.
Interesting. You have a retinue large enough to see to the evacuation of the normal staff and you're apparently PERSONALLY capable of dealing with a terrorist. That doesn't sound like any Politician I know of. (Example - The Secret Service is there to protect the President, POTUS should NEVER have to deal with something like a mad bomber directly.)
FOS RafaelK
That's...an awful lot of mod-gaming. Please stop that.
Were they? If I'm looking at the wrong post, please tell me, because I don't know what exactly people were referencing. (I didn't read all the pregame first time through because it didn't seem necessary)
Have you gone back to read it yet? Because some of it is necessary.
Well this game is moving along quite fast. Hard to keep up with it almoost. Reading along something about V just irks me. I don't like his interactions with town Manders and his vote on AI is just teribad. He is definatly on my scumdar fos V
In the mean time I support pressure on Az, his playstyle so far is similar to symbiote and with him being scum there I got to wonder if he isn't scum here to. vote azrael
/barn raf points about tilde, and ai. Still happy with pressueing az. I suscribe to the concentrate on one issue at a time style of play.
Whoa, wait. You say that V is suspicious because his vote on AI is "teribad", but then you proceed to say that you /barn raf on AI. So, make up your mind. Is AI worthy of a vote or not?
Ai is at best an igmeoy. While raf had some good points it was not enough to make me feel that pressure need to be applied or that a vote was warrented. Sry I wasn't more clear.
V's vote is teribad because it has no reasoning behind it and I already was wary of him due to his interactions with you. It just made him look worse in my mind.
On the soft claim: not convinced there's much in it here. Generally you want a soft claim to lock the scum into something (but without giving away much info of importance) and I'm not sure this will. I could probably be convinced though. But doing a soft claim just for the sake of a soft claim, no.
I'm not sure how this wouldn't be a good way to lock players in... what are they going to claim, Sealand?
Although I'm not thrilled with ibug's vote on Azrael, there's a difference between wrongheaded and insincere, and I feel his vote is the former while AI's is the latter. AI is also giving me a sense of insincerity through "what a good townie I am"-type comments like "Let's generate some content, people" (in a game hardly lacking in early activity) and by "supporting pressure" against no less than 5 players at this stage.
Town AI is more likely to confidently post snippy remarks to feel impressive.
Whoa, wait. You say that V is suspicious because his vote on AI is "teribad", but then you proceed to say that you /barn raf on AI. So, make up your mind. Is AI worthy of a vote or not?
V's vote is teribad because it has no reasoning behind it and I already was wary of him due to his interactions with you. It just made him look worse in my mind.
O.K. so of course I'm going to answer your questions but I have to point out that while manders still feels town to me I am uncomfortable with any one person running the game and she seems to feel like she's in a bit to much control right now. Please stop that.
10+ games manders, rough estimate.
AI has left himself open and given assurance to waaaaaay to many wagons at once for me to think of him as a townie at least for now. I don't really like to barn but RafK mostly already explained my case on AI. Though I will admit i did not notice that his comments felt like the "what a good townie I am" Rafk mentioned I can certainly see that as the purpose behind at least "lets generate some content". Especially when plenty was already going on.
Tordeck if your going to call me teribad please vote me. Otherwise don't. I admit I probably should have explained the vote at the time but it was almost midnight my time and I was tired.
Tordeck what specifically in my interaction between me and manders makes you suspicious of me?
Emo, voting without reasons is certainly bad because as happened by the time i could get back to explain someone had already made my case, I would not be surprised if that was a point against me/this case. I do not pretend to be kpaca.
Most lurkers I would give more time before getting angry at them but someone tell az to get in here.
O.K. so of course I'm going to answer your questions but I have to point out that while manders still feels town to me I am uncomfortable with any one person running the game and she seems to feel like she's in a bit to much control right now. Please stop that.
Make everyone else post more, and it won't seem like I'm running the game. I'm not going to change my playstyle just because it makes you uncomfortable.
10+ games manders, rough estimate.
The reason I ask is because that's enough games for you to not have to /barn damn near everything you've said in this game. I'm focused on Ced, but you should be glad I'm not a multi-voter, because I'd spread the love to you.
AI has left himself open and given assurance to waaaaaay to many wagons at once for me to think of him as a townie at least for now. I don't really like to barn but RafK mostly already explained my case on AI. Though I will admit i did not notice that his comments felt like the "what a good townie I am" Rafk mentioned I can certainly see that as the purpose behind at least "lets generate some content". Especially when plenty was already going on.
Aaaaaaand I totally knew that would be included in your answer to my question.
Tordeck if your going to call me teribad please vote me. Otherwise don't. I admit I probably should have explained the vote at the time but it was almost midnight my time and I was tired.
And that's a horrible excuse. If you have time to vote, you have time to spew some kind of explanation for your vote.
Most lurkers I would give more time before getting angry at them but someone tell az to get in here.
It is not currently within my power to make others post, as soon as it is consider it done.
I don't really understand what you're saying. What i basically got here is that because I've only played around 10-12ish games that I am not qualified to form my own opinion. That can't possibly be what you meant or you are a moron of the highest degree and should be ignored so please explain what you did mean.
Yep already being raised as that point, hey look at me I'm psychic :D.
No, its not, I was very tired and was not going to take the time to type something I might regret later do to lack of coherency. You ma'am, may take your "bad excuse" and stuff it, for all I'm concerned.
Trying to lead? BS to that there has been a lot of discussion about and around az therefore I believe he should make him self present to be involved. In fact I think he needs to forthwith.
/joking over lest AI think I'm scum for trying to enjoy myself.
Some questions:
@MandersHex: Remind me what game(s) it was that you were scum again? Also, to answer your first question to me, I voted SomeOne because he posted right above me. (i.e. it was my random vote.)
@Anyone voting Azrael for scum jokes: he does it regardless of alignment, it's a null tell.
@Tilde: That's some awfully bad mod-gaming you're doing there - in a self-proclaimed bastard moddery game, no less.
@AsianInvasion: I think RafK is right about you. He is also Mr. Day One, after all.
O.K. so of course I'm going to answer your questions but I have to point out that while manders still feels town to me I am uncomfortable with any one person running the game and she seems to feel like she's in a bit to much control right now. Please stop that.
Don't worry; she's overwhelmingly likely to be town. Besides, she's not actually running the game, she's just producing a ton of questions. The difference being, if someone's running the game, people tend to barn them and follow along, while over here it's mainly just MH going her own direction just with a ton of content.
I don't really understand what you're saying. What i basically got here is that because I've only played around 10-12ish games that I am not qualified to form my own opinion. That can't possibly be what you meant or you are a moron of the highest degree and should be ignored so please explain what you did mean.
I believe she's saying the opposite; you're experienced enough to have your own opinion on everything.
The sad thing is I *DID* have my own opinion RafK just got there first and I was stupid enough not to post at least some of it cause I was tired so now it can't be my opinion anymore.
I don't really understand what you're saying. What i basically got here is that because I've only played around 10-12ish games that I am not qualified to form my own opinion. That can't possibly be what you meant or you are a moron of the highest degree and should be ignored so please explain what you did mean.
1) Don't ever call me a moron again, whether you're joking or not. I am not the person to joke around with like that. Especially when you're misreading what I said.
2) How did you get this out of what I said?
The reason I ask is because that's enough games for you to not have to /barn damn near everything you've said in this game. I'm focused on Ced, but you should be glad I'm not a multi-voter, because I'd spread the love to you.
I'm saying you SHOULD be able to formulate your own opinions instead of /barning a lot, so why aren't you?
Yep already being raised as that point, hey look at me I'm psychic :D.
Um, no. I would be the psychic in that situation.
No, its not, I was very tired and was not going to take the time to type something I might regret later do to lack of coherency. You ma'am, may take your "bad excuse" and stuff it, for all I'm concerned.
So why even bother taking the time to make a vote if you don't have time to explain it? You've recently agreed that it's bad to vote without an explanation, so why the hell did you do it?
Trying to lead? BS to that there has been a lot of discussion about and around az therefore I believe he should make him self present to be involved. In fact I think he needs to forthwith.
And he just posted yesterday.
Man, it's pretty bad if I'm telling you to calm down and give him a chance.
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@MandersHex: Remind me what game(s) it was that you were scum again? Also, to answer your first question to me, I voted SomeOne because he posted right above me. (i.e. it was my random vote.)
Joss Whedon was my first scum game and I played horribly as E_P can vouch for, Demonata was where I won as scum and AI still hates me for it, hence why he remembers my scum meta so well :D, and Family Mafia where I was scum MostlyMuteManders and Ced and WoD were my buddies. Skander was in that one, too.
Although I'm not thrilled with ibug's vote on Azrael, there's a difference between wrongheaded and insincere, and I feel his vote is the former while AI's is the latter. AI is also giving me a sense of insincerity through "what a good townie I am"-type comments like "Let's generate some content, people" (in a game hardly lacking in early activity) and by "supporting pressure" against no less than 5 players at this stage.
Mr. bug's initial vote was fine. I believe I've already explained that. It's the later junk post that bothers me. The only purpose that post served was to confuse the issue. At the very least, it confused me because I forgot that he was the one who originally voted against Azrael and therefore not only thought that he was wasting our time with pointless drivel, but was /barning for no reason. I don't like to be confused.
I suppose after playing CCMIV I shouldn't expect Day Ones to unfold at 100 posts/day. I didn't mean to imply that nothing was happening, just that we should focus our efforts more and post random stage crap less.
I also see nothing wrong with supporting pressure against multiple players if they do things that bother me. Feel free to come back to this if I start wagon-hopping without reason.
AI has left himself open and given assurance to waaaaaay to many wagons at once for me to think of him as a townie at least for now. I don't really like to barn but RafK mostly already explained my case on AI. Though I will admit i did not notice that his comments felt like the "what a good townie I am" Rafk mentioned I can certainly see that as the purpose behind at least "lets generate some content". Especially when plenty was already going on.
OK, good to know that your vote wasn't for no reason.
Now, if you really "think of [me] as a townie at least for now," why are you still voting me? Curious.
@Manders: OK, thanks. Do you feel as though you post more or less when you're town than you do as scum? Which do you prefer to play?
Easily post more as town and prefer to play as town. I just get too nervous as scum. AIs dead on with the scum meta, though. I sit back in the shadows and let others lead when scum.
I have nothing more to say to ~V~ atm. I'd like to hear more from ~Tilde~, Az, and (ugh) Vez.
Actually I'm beginning to think you're scum because you, like Az, are quite irrelevant at the moment.
No, I'm quite relevant. As is Azrael. You seem to think you are far more relevant than you actually are, which is what RafK was alluding to, and to which I "mindlessly barned". It's a cute trick, really, it keeps you in the forefront, people remember you being active and asking questions; but if they're not really advancing the game state, it's just fluff. Why, exactly, do you think I'm asking Manders the questions I am? (hint: because she's overdoing it, too.)
How about Manipulator later on? He kind of made a point of playing the same way.
I'm not sure, I don't recall that.
As for the 5th:
Tiger cub guy: I argue that you jumping into a game and making a wagon vote with your first serious post, then proceeding to call for a speedlynch for said wagon (pun not intended) shortly later, is not how you usually play. Do you agree? If so, why are you playing differently?
I'm not sure what my particular meta is at this point. Last game I was in was Family before that ???.
Regardless, the speedlynch was obviously a joke. However the 'wagon' vote
(2nd vote on you?) was because it was what I was thinking.
Also, after doing that, why are you proceeding to pay no attention to me/my wagon, despite holding your vote there?
You made one post in between I believe and nothing stood out. Is there something in particular that you think I missed? I've been waiting for you to post more. And I can't say I'm pleased now that you have because now I see you're going to turn this whole thing into a tl;dr argument, which is a great way to baffle everybody.
There are a couple good points brought up against him, but more importantly, he's the only person with anything close to a wagon on him. I'm not trying to see him speedlynched, but I think that once we have a wagon on someone, the game will stop being quite so chaotic--right now we have a dozen people all constantly posting in completely different directions.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
There are a couple good points brought up against him, but more importantly, he's the only person with anything close to a wagon on him. I'm not trying to see him speedlynched, but I think that once we have a wagon on someone, the game will stop being quite so chaotic--right now we have a dozen people all constantly posting in completely different directions.
Skander Translation (patent pending):
Yo guys, let's lynch AI. Seems like a wagon that will move. This will have an added benefit of stifling all conversation :hifive:.
Ugh, I hate complaints of tl;dr. Poor Skander, I was MMM in our only other game together, so he has no idea what I can do.
I don't like tl;dr when it's just back and forth arguing with slight variations in the arguments. More so when I suspect it's being used specifically to make people avoid delving into the arguments.
However in this case, I stand corrected. I just read over Mouse Man's (en garde!) posts and I saw this:
I'm basing my argument on what I see in this thread alone.
If Ced was not familiar with MH's playstyle then the whole case on him doesn't start. However, the problem I still have is why this was not answered immediately when AI attacked him. Why did you wait to state this, Ced, instead of clarifying right away that you weren't familiar with MH's meta?
I don't like tl;dr when it's just back and forth arguing with slight variations in the arguments. More so when I suspect it's being used specifically to make people avoid delving into the arguments.
Not to worry with me then, brother, for you'll never see me do that.
If I'm spending the time to create it, it's because it's relevant and I want people to read it.
Manders, if you weren't so obviously a townie I would be rather worried with all of your "hey look at me I'm a townie" talk. As is it's just something to note.
CED if you want pressure put on me then do it yourself, why exactly should pressure be put on me and why would you say this without asking questions/making a case of your own. Waiting for other people to do your work is a bad plan.
Psychic senses tingling CED "you did it you hypocrite" lets see how my skills work today :).
No, I'm quite relevant. As is Azrael. You seem to think you are far more relevant than you actually are, which is what RafK was alluding to, and to which I "mindlessly barned". It's a cute trick, really, it keeps you in the forefront, people remember you being active and asking questions; but if they're not really advancing the game state, it's just fluff. Why, exactly, do you think I'm asking Manders the questions I am? (hint: because she's overdoing it, too.)
Actually it's more like I have much higher expectations of you and Azrael and so far they have been unfulfilled. Is it unfair of me to expect town-Az & town-DYH to nail scum with every post? Perhaps, but since I can't do that myself, I am attempting to make up for my relative inexperience by pushing harder against other players.
I don't usually get sick reads so I have to compensate somehow.
There are a couple good points brought up against him, but more importantly, he's the only person with anything close to a wagon on him. I'm not trying to see him speedlynched, but I think that once we have a wagon on someone, the game will stop being quite so chaotic--right now we have a dozen people all constantly posting in completely different directions.
If Ced was not familiar with MH's playstyle then the whole case on him doesn't start. However, the problem I still have is why this was not answered immediately when AI attacked him. Why did you wait to state this, Ced, instead of clarifying right away that you weren't familiar with MH's meta?
You need better glasses: they're both front page.
Symbiote:http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=242415
South Park:http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=245938
You're not Jordman are you?
Also thank you, I may in fact need new glasses.
jordman was a player here who got banned for really atrocious grammar and spelling that he refused to fix. He made some gimmicks and those got banned also. Now if I see someone new with any sort of spelling mistake I assume it's jordman (tbh, I didn't actually think you were him).
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Jordman is zen.
We are all Jordman.
Jordman is us.
Jordman is your mother
Jordman is your sister
Jordman is the conductor of the Devil's Orchestra
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Super Mario Galaxy
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Assassin's Creed 2
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BioShock
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Kingdom Hearts
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unvote, vote zchinque for trying to get us all banned.
unvote, vote azrael because that's where my vote should really be.
But Senor Torpedo is watching you, Z.
A card game about Presidents. Stabbing each other. With knives.
That's nice.
Dunno.
Nah, his spelling is too good.
Why don't you try it yourself and see what you find? Good luck...
:ai: (Not everyone can claim have an emote dedicated to them. :cool2:)
Care to justify that vote? Excessive fluff noted.
I'm pretty sure the random phase is (long) over. Let's generate some content, people.
I support pressure against Azrael, ced395, indomitablebug, Skander, and Wrath_of_DoG.
You might want to reread that sequence of events.
Why me and why iBug?
I did. I feel a little better about it.
Something feels off about you and I can't place it. Call it a gut read.
Considering his vote has at least a little justification behind hit, Mr. bug's last post post was him being silly, which is more annoying than scummy. A little pressure might do him some good.
The random stage ended in the pregame, which I wasn't really paying attention to, because it was the pre-game. I understand that, but I don't see why that means I can't have a little fun with Z, him being the mod of the second game I played.
You're voting Az too, so I don't see how that could make me look bad, especially as you voted him after I did. Here I am, trying to apply pressure, and that makes me look scummy? It seems like you're trying to jump on any little thing you can, which almost seems fair considering how little content there is to judge anyone by at this juncture.
A card game about Presidents. Stabbing each other. With knives.
Indeed; at the time I made my post I had forgotten that you were the same player who had voted previously, probably because of your silly and distracting unvote/revote.
Sure.
I don't have a problem with your vote any more. I do have a problem with what seems to be a lack of seriousness, though if you're true to your word you'll improve on that as well. (Note that there is a difference between having fun while playing and having fun instead of playing. I'm not trying to suck all the enjoyment out of the game; I just view a lack of caring as scummy)
coughJackRyancough
No, I'm not claiming Jack Ryan (or any given name, for that matter). I'm just pointing out how useless that particular piece of mod-gaming is. My particular role thinks highly of himself, stayed behind to lead you all while his staff evacuated as many as they could, stumbled on the guy as he finished setting the bombs, and killed him. It's as good a way to set up the "why is there no staff in the remains of the resort? why are you still here?" as any, I guess. Blame the mod if it's too Tom Clancy for you
You were also the only one to try and make out that my opening speech was suspicious, and now a lame attempt to game the mod, so I have my eye on you. You are trying a bit too hard to make something happen here. But you aren't the most suspicious person around. Not yet, anyway.
You know, I think I agree with this. vote AI
Although I'm not thrilled with ibug's vote on Azrael, there's a difference between wrongheaded and insincere, and I feel his vote is the former while AI's is the latter. AI is also giving me a sense of insincerity through "what a good townie I am"-type comments like "Let's generate some content, people" (in a game hardly lacking in early activity) and by "supporting pressure" against no less than 5 players at this stage.
In the mean time I support pressure on Az, his playstyle so far is similar to symbiote and with him being scum there I got to wonder if he isn't scum here to. vote azrael
/barn raf points about tilde, and ai. Still happy with pressueing az. I suscribe to the concentrate on one issue at a time style of play.
The Family
Have you compared it to his town meta, my good chap?
Alcoholic Mafia - Town LVP
Super Mario Galaxy
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
EchoChrome
Metal Gear Solid 2
Metal Gear Solid 3
Assassin's Creed 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum
BioShock
Demon's Souls
Final Fantasy I, II, IV, VII & XII
Kingdom Hearts
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Mass Effect
Metal Gear Solid 4
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
I'll answer this when you give me at least an estimate of what I'm asking.
How many games have you played in?
Is there a point to this? I was thinking PR maybe, you have to include it, but you didn't include it on a later post on this page, so yeah. Just wondering if there's a point to this or just you being silly.
That's...an awful lot of mod-gaming. Please stop that.
No, not in the least.
Have you gone back to read it yet? Because some of it is necessary.
Explanation. Now.
Whoa, wait. You say that V is suspicious because his vote on AI is "teribad", but then you proceed to say that you /barn raf on AI. So, make up your mind. Is AI worthy of a vote or not?
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V's vote is teribad because it has no reasoning behind it and I already was wary of him due to his interactions with you. It just made him look worse in my mind.
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Town AI is more likely to confidently post snippy remarks to feel impressive.
This isn't a point against tordeck.
Why is voting without reasons bad?
I've already stated I'm satisfied with his answer. Why did you feel the need to include this in your post?
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10+ games manders, rough estimate.
AI has left himself open and given assurance to waaaaaay to many wagons at once for me to think of him as a townie at least for now. I don't really like to barn but RafK mostly already explained my case on AI. Though I will admit i did not notice that his comments felt like the "what a good townie I am" Rafk mentioned I can certainly see that as the purpose behind at least "lets generate some content". Especially when plenty was already going on.
Tordeck if your going to call me teribad please vote me. Otherwise don't. I admit I probably should have explained the vote at the time but it was almost midnight my time and I was tired.
Tordeck what specifically in my interaction between me and manders makes you suspicious of me?
Emo, voting without reasons is certainly bad because as happened by the time i could get back to explain someone had already made my case, I would not be surprised if that was a point against me/this case. I do not pretend to be kpaca.
Most lurkers I would give more time before getting angry at them but someone tell az to get in here.
Make everyone else post more, and it won't seem like I'm running the game. I'm not going to change my playstyle just because it makes you uncomfortable.
The reason I ask is because that's enough games for you to not have to /barn damn near everything you've said in this game. I'm focused on Ced, but you should be glad I'm not a multi-voter, because I'd spread the love to you.
Aaaaaaand I totally knew that would be included in your answer to my question.
And that's a horrible excuse. If you have time to vote, you have time to spew some kind of explanation for your vote.
Now look who's trying to lead the town.
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I don't really understand what you're saying. What i basically got here is that because I've only played around 10-12ish games that I am not qualified to form my own opinion. That can't possibly be what you meant or you are a moron of the highest degree and should be ignored so please explain what you did mean.
Yep already being raised as that point, hey look at me I'm psychic :D.
No, its not, I was very tired and was not going to take the time to type something I might regret later do to lack of coherency. You ma'am, may take your "bad excuse" and stuff it, for all I'm concerned.
Trying to lead? BS to that there has been a lot of discussion about and around az therefore I believe he should make him self present to be involved. In fact I think he needs to forthwith.
No, he's quite clearly Loran.
Busted, again?
Flock of seagulls?
/joking over lest AI think I'm scum for trying to enjoy myself.
Some questions:
@MandersHex: Remind me what game(s) it was that you were scum again? Also, to answer your first question to me, I voted SomeOne because he posted right above me. (i.e. it was my random vote.)
@Anyone voting Azrael for scum jokes: he does it regardless of alignment, it's a null tell.
@Tilde: That's some awfully bad mod-gaming you're doing there - in a self-proclaimed bastard moddery game, no less.
@AsianInvasion: I think RafK is right about you. He is also Mr. Day One, after all.
Vote: AsianInvasion
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Does anybody a recent town Az (besides for Manipulator).
Don't worry; she's overwhelmingly likely to be town. Besides, she's not actually running the game, she's just producing a ton of questions. The difference being, if someone's running the game, people tend to barn them and follow along, while over here it's mainly just MH going her own direction just with a ton of content.
I believe she's saying the opposite; you're experienced enough to have your own opinion on everything.
I meant to quote RafK in my above post but it looks like it didn't go through. This has the same sentiment though, so it will suffice.
As I said before, this is behavior consistent with town AI.
1) Don't ever call me a moron again, whether you're joking or not. I am not the person to joke around with like that. Especially when you're misreading what I said.
2) How did you get this out of what I said?
I'm saying you SHOULD be able to formulate your own opinions instead of /barning a lot, so why aren't you?
Um, no. I would be the psychic in that situation.
So why even bother taking the time to make a vote if you don't have time to explain it? You've recently agreed that it's bad to vote without an explanation, so why the hell did you do it?
And he just posted yesterday.
Man, it's pretty bad if I'm telling you to calm down and give him a chance.
Joss Whedon was my first scum game and I played horribly as E_P can vouch for, Demonata was where I won as scum and AI still hates me for it, hence why he remembers my scum meta so well :D, and Family Mafia where I was scum MostlyMuteManders and Ced and WoD were my buddies. Skander was in that one, too.
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Mr. bug's initial vote was fine. I believe I've already explained that. It's the later junk post that bothers me. The only purpose that post served was to confuse the issue. At the very least, it confused me because I forgot that he was the one who originally voted against Azrael and therefore not only thought that he was wasting our time with pointless drivel, but was /barning for no reason. I don't like to be confused.
I suppose after playing CCMIV I shouldn't expect Day Ones to unfold at 100 posts/day. I didn't mean to imply that nothing was happening, just that we should focus our efforts more and post random stage crap less.
I also see nothing wrong with supporting pressure against multiple players if they do things that bother me. Feel free to come back to this if I start wagon-hopping without reason.
Thanks, Skander #2. I guess.
OK, good to know that your vote wasn't for no reason.
Now, if you really "think of [me] as a townie at least for now," why are you still voting me? Curious.
And so soon after we had just talked about this.
Actually I'm beginning to think you're scum because you, like Az, are quite irrelevant at the moment.
Oh hey, let's mindlessly barn some more.
@Manders: OK, thanks. Do you feel as though you post more or less when you're town than you do as scum? Which do you prefer to play?
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You said I didn't have enough games to not be barning everyone. Seemed pretty clear to me sorry.
We can both be psychic, it'll be fun.
I was very tired, I admitted it was a mistake, that is my final word on the matter.
The game is moving along so fast I did not realize what was going on in real time.
In other news After about 1:00ish my time today I am unlikely to be able post again until monday/tuesday please do not replace me.
Easily post more as town and prefer to play as town. I just get too nervous as scum. AIs dead on with the scum meta, though. I sit back in the shadows and let others lead when scum.
I have nothing more to say to ~V~ atm. I'd like to hear more from ~Tilde~, Az, and (ugh) Vez.
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No, I'm quite relevant. As is Azrael. You seem to think you are far more relevant than you actually are, which is what RafK was alluding to, and to which I "mindlessly barned". It's a cute trick, really, it keeps you in the forefront, people remember you being active and asking questions; but if they're not really advancing the game state, it's just fluff. Why, exactly, do you think I'm asking Manders the questions I am? (hint: because she's overdoing it, too.)
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Even if this is true, that only makes his behavior a null-tell. Where's the part where it makes him scum?
Now I'm going to read your post.
I'm not sure, I don't recall that.
I'm not sure what my particular meta is at this point. Last game I was in was Family before that ???.
Regardless, the speedlynch was obviously a joke. However the 'wagon' vote
(2nd vote on you?) was because it was what I was thinking.
You made one post in between I believe and nothing stood out. Is there something in particular that you think I missed? I've been waiting for you to post more. And I can't say I'm pleased now that you have because now I see you're going to turn this whole thing into a tl;dr argument, which is a great way to baffle everybody.
Vote:AI
There are a couple good points brought up against him, but more importantly, he's the only person with anything close to a wagon on him. I'm not trying to see him speedlynched, but I think that once we have a wagon on someone, the game will stop being quite so chaotic--right now we have a dozen people all constantly posting in completely different directions.
Wait, don't go anywhere mouse man. I'm reading your original post. I may want to ask you a question.
Ced - I read it all and will respond, but am currently working and cannot atm. Apologies because I fear you'll be gone for the day before I get to it.
To give you a hint, I'm feeling a bit better about you, but not completely.
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Skander Translation (patent pending):
Yo guys, let's lynch AI. Seems like a wagon that will move. This will have an added benefit of stifling all conversation :hifive:.
I don't like tl;dr when it's just back and forth arguing with slight variations in the arguments. More so when I suspect it's being used specifically to make people avoid delving into the arguments.
However in this case, I stand corrected. I just read over Mouse Man's (en garde!) posts and I saw this:
If Ced was not familiar with MH's playstyle then the whole case on him doesn't start. However, the problem I still have is why this was not answered immediately when AI attacked him. Why did you wait to state this, Ced, instead of clarifying right away that you weren't familiar with MH's meta?
My unvote depends on your answer to this.
Not to worry with me then, brother, for you'll never see me do that.
If I'm spending the time to create it, it's because it's relevant and I want people to read it.
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CED if you want pressure put on me then do it yourself, why exactly should pressure be put on me and why would you say this without asking questions/making a case of your own. Waiting for other people to do your work is a bad plan.
Psychic senses tingling CED "you did it you hypocrite" lets see how my skills work today :).
Actually it's more like I have much higher expectations of you and Azrael and so far they have been unfulfilled. Is it unfair of me to expect town-Az & town-DYH to nail scum with every post? Perhaps, but since I can't do that myself, I am attempting to make up for my relative inexperience by pushing harder against other players.
I don't usually get sick reads so I have to compensate somehow.
Radar: Azrael, ced395, DYH, Nom_Anor, Wrath_of_DoG, Zchinque.
Reasons (Respectively): Detached attitude, inconsistent logic, subtle discrediting, mindless barning, weak meta argument, posting in flowery language/sucking up.