Players not voting: Archmage_Eternal, Cyan, dropkickdude, StormBlind, TheIceMan, joboman
"This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you've served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew."
"I honestly don't know how you thought you could get away with it." Cyouni spoke.
"I...I...but I wasn't even..." joboman stuttered, speechless.
"Save it. You thought we wouldn't check up on you? Come here first? Clearly you've had a hand in this somewhere, and we intend to get to the bottom of it." Syrenz added.
There were 13 people at the Petrelli estate, 12 of which were out for blood. They stood in the foyer, joboman with bags packed and heading out the back way. But poor joboman was just not quick enough.
"You have no idea, do you?" joboman asked. "This is bigger than you. There are dangerous people out there and you're letting petty differences cloud your judgment. What about Sylar!?"
dracofaust answers quickly, "Don't turn this around. You've been abducting people in your company for years. That is what needs to be dealt with, and now."
"You're making a big mistake." joboman pleads.
"Honey, you're the only one who's made the big mistakes around here," responds AsianInvasion, "and, as you can see, your time has come to an end. Say hi to your husband for us."
"But I..." joboman began, but was quickly subdued from a pistol whip to the head from Ace.
Ace wipes the blood from the butt of the pistol onto joboman's clothing, "Discussion is over."
The 12 quietly equip joboman with a suit to keep any possible powers from manifesting.
"Time for you to get bagged and tagged, Mrs. Petrelli."
Dead:
0. Chandra Suresh - Geneticist (Hero) : Died night 0, top of skull removed.
21. joboman, Angela Petrelli - Dreamer (Villain): Lynched Day 1.
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It is now Night 1, so posting in thread stops now. Many of you have PM's to send, so please do so before Tuesday, June 8 at noon if you wish to action.
"Gotcha." Sylar responded, slamming air into the brick wall of the alleyway. "Haha, you're a squirrely one." Sylar's hand seemed to move awkwardly a few inches away from the wall, then slowly a man took form under it. Sylar's grip around this scruffy man's neck was powerful, waiting for one wrong twitch.
"Don't, don't kill me. Please." Claude Rains begged.
"Oh, but I tracked you down all by myself! You'd deprive me of the pleasure of a successful hunt? How cruel." Sylar lifts his other hand, and in a pointing gesture, begins to cut through Claude's skull.
The alley was filled with the screams of agonizing pain.
Peter Petrelli lies dead in his New York apartment with his brother Nathan standing over him, his face twisted in grief and sadness. "Peter..." he whispers, crouching to the body of his dearest brother. A pool of blood surrounds Peter's body. Nathan's tears fell, making small clear circles in the crimson puddle. He runs his hand down his dead brother's face, lowering his stiff eyelids.
Now that ma was caught, they had no reason to leave Peter alive.
Nathan stands up, moving to the window. Wiping the tears from his face and smearing blood across his cheek, Nathan soars out of the apartment on his last flight.
Dead:
0. Chandra Suresh - Geneticist (Hero) : Died night 0, top of skull removed.
21. joboman, Angela Petrelli - Dreamer (Villain): Lynched Day 1.
20. falkonn, "Claude Rains" - Invisible Man (Hero): Died Night 1, top of skull removed.
12. Cyan, Peter Petrelli - Empathic Mimic (Hero): Died Night 1, shot to death.
10. AlphaInsidious, Nathan Petrelli - Brother Politician (Hero): Died Night 1, suicide.
Invisible Man:
Invisibility(target self, passive, supernatural): You can turn invisible at will. You are also paranoid of being watched and actioned upon. You naturally turn invisible to avoid action against you, and as such any non-kill action on you fails automatically. You cannot choose to stop this ability.
Empathic Mimic:
Empathic Mimicry(target player, night action, supernatural): During the night phase you may choose to absorb a target player's power. This will result in copying any supernatural ability available from the target into a one shot ability for yourself. This ability will be added to your Abilities list. You may also use Empathic Mimicry in conjunction with another ability, but only if the target remains the same. This ability may also be dangerous, as certain supernatural abilities may change alignment or affect you in some other way.
Brother Politician:
Brother(target self, passive): You love Peter very much. If Peter dies, you die as well.
Political Pardon(target player, day action): During the day phase you may submit a player name via PM. That person can not be lynched for the remainder of the day. If the lynch threshold is reached votes will be reset and a lynch will not occur. You cannot use this ability on yourself.
Rescue(target player, night action, one shot, supernatural): Once during the game as a night action, you may submit the name of a player to rescue. That player will be protected and blocked that night as you fly to rescue them.
It is now Day 2. You may resume posting. This is also a reminder to the dead players to not discuss the game until it is over or you are in the spectator forum.
Hm. 3 for one, definitely not an easy pill to swallow. Especially with Peter dead. He definitely was one of the most powerful roles the town had available i suspect.
Re-reading, been on a lax break for a week.
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I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
So, TACKY, how did the plan go. Seeing that Vez is still alive and whatnot.
On that note,
Vote: Vez.
Also, it looks like that was just Zionite's mistake--it's Day 2 now.
Well, I was blocked. I forgot that Falkonn claimed what he did, or I would have had different night actions.
Strangely though, I don't think the RBer is the traditional RBer, as in he doesn't stop actions from happening. From the flavor, I more accurately got my powers shut off, but I was still able to take the basic action, at least from the flavor.
The end of the PM still says I was simply blocked though.
And now we have a tough choice to make. Do we lynch HC, obvscum from yesterday, or do we lynch Vezok to eliminate an imminent threat?
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Wow..... er that night certainly could have gone better....
In other news hunted charlie is the second scummiest after jobo's horrible performance yesterday. I am happy to vote hunted charlie.
Hey tacky i don't see a reason to kill vezo, he is still a claimed neutral and at least for now it is in his best interests to work with the rest of the town. A truly good neutral can be trusted to act in his own best interests.
Other than that, for today's agenda I would like to see tacky reveal his plan and until somone better comes up I'd love to see HC lynched.
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I'm leaning HC. But what do we have to fear from Vez again?
He's 'the bomb', supposedly having an ability that causes more damage the more he's targeted. There was suspicion that Sylar may try and kill Vez, take this ability and uber-win the game with it.
However, seeing as I was blocked, I'm guessing the Mafia have their own plan.
I feel I'm with AE on this: kill the scum.
@Vezok: Anything to report from the previous night?
Vote Hunted Charlie
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Wow..... er that night certainly could have gone better....
In other news hunted charlie is the second scummiest after jobo's horrible performance yesterday. I am happy to vote hunted charlie.
Hey tacky i don't see a reason to kill vezo, he is still a claimed neutral and at least for now it is in his best interests to work with the rest of the town. A truly good neutral can be trusted to act in his own best interests.
Other than that, for today's agenda I would like to see tacky reveal his plan and until somone better comes up I'd love to see HC lynched.
EBWODP: Revealing my plan requires me to claim, which I will not do, at least until I have the proper set of votes.
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Other than that, for today's agenda I would like to see tacky reveal his plan and until somone better comes up I'd love to see HC lynched.
Hmm. Why? Give the scum the knowledge of what he was up to? Chances are he can still do what he was planing on. I'd prefer to leave the mafia, and Sylar in the dark. Big FOS here.
... he said he would reveal his plan when it hit tommorrow. Currently the town is also in the dark and having more information is almost always usefull. I begin to feel very uncomfortable when people have plans and put them off past when they say they will reveal all to the rest of the town.
At the same time however apologies to Tacky if it requires you to claim then of course do not. I guess I probably should have realized any night based plan would have to do with a power something. Sorry for my ignorance, we really don't need anyone else claiming :).
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Are you referring to his gain of Falkonn's ability? He can still be killed according to that, but he may have some other ability we are not aware of. I don't think that's likely, but I have no idea. Peter's Brother had a couple of abilities, so who knows.
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... he said he would reveal his plan when it hit tommorrow. Currently the town is also in the dark and having more information is almost always usefull.
He clearly said he was blocked so his plan did not hit. So this is plainly fishing.
I figure that whatever sylar can do there will always be some way to kill him if we know who he is otherwise the game becomes rather meaningless yes?
Yes, hopefully by lynch. Thats what I was getting at. Knowing that falkonn claimed I was hoping the watcher if we had one watched him and that would reveal Sylar. So they could push for his lynch or reveal themselves later on if need be to kill off Sylar.
Well, I was blocked. I forgot that Falkonn claimed what he did, or I would have had different night actions.
Strangely though, I don't think the RBer is the traditional RBer, as in he doesn't stop actions from happening. From the flavor, I more accurately got my powers shut off, but I was still able to take the basic action, at least from the flavor.
The end of the PM still says I was simply blocked though.
That is unfortunate. Do you think it will be feasible to try again, or has this ship sailed?
And now we have a tough choice to make. Do we lynch HC, obvscum from yesterday, or do we lynch Vezok to eliminate an imminent threat?
We lynch scum. Vote: Hunted Charlie.. Also do not like the way OneMoreTime is currently acting, someone to keep an eye on.
That's actually a very good point. By taking the untargetability Sylar actually made it worse for himself.
I don't see how? Are we going to test each player one-by-one with night actions to see if they work? That seems like it won't be fast enough to do much.
It seems to me that if scum roleblocked TACKY (I'm assuming scum since no sane town would have roleblocked him), they want to keep vezok alive. If scum want vezok alive, we want vezok dead. So he's definitely a reasonable lynch, but I think we should investigate a little more first to see if we can find scum.
Great wagon, guys. I'm scum because I'm scum. For those of you who didn't give at least some discussion of my case yesterday (that would be everybody except TACKY and AsianInvasion), you are mindlessly bandwagoning. I'd point out that I was the first person to vote jobo as well as one of the few to give reasons against him, but I think it's clear that's not going to help much. Do y'all just want the claim now then since it's obvious I'll be in claim range shortly?
... the bomb will act in his own best interests, and if he hurts the town we'll kill him therefore his best interests are with us for the time being. Plenty of time to take him down later no?
I honestly have no idea what descision i would make from thar information. At this point i shouldn't have it becaus eit would require a claim. But as shown by yesterday at least even mid hard bandwagon if new compelling information pops up things can change rather quickly.
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I don't see how? Are we going to test each player one-by-one with night actions to see if they work? That seems like it won't be fast enough to do much.
Taking untargetability means some roles such as tracker, cop etc.. can't target you. If he's untargetable though, every single role essentially becomes a sylar cop now as if anyone targets him and is told that he's untargetable we know he's Sylar. I'm not saying we're proactively looking for him like that, I'm saying that the likelihood of catching him has increased substantially.
Slightly worried by how quick votes are piling on HC with no reasons being added on. Need to reread a couple of things.
Also of note, Sylar now having untargetability would mean that he has no interest in Vezok's ability as Vezok said that he explodes from being targeted.
RO's giving me bad vibes, but I guess he does in every game.
Taking untargetability means some roles such as tracker, cop etc.. can't target you. If he's untargetable though, every single role essentially becomes a sylar cop now as if anyone targets him and is told that he's untargetable we know he's Sylar. I'm not saying we're proactively looking for him like that, I'm saying that the likelihood of catching him has increased substantially.
Slightly worried by how quick votes are piling on HC with no reasons being added on. Need to reread a couple of things.
Also of note, Sylar now having untargetability would mean that he has no interest in Vezok's ability as Vezok said that he explodes from being targeted.
RO's giving me bad vibes, but I guess he does in every game.
Barn the catching Sylar part, but I would actually make a lot of sense for Sylar to grab Vezok now. Seeing as how the only thing that DOES target him are kills, this pressure would surely 'set us off the bomb'. We don't know the consequences of the bomb, but if it's game ending, I assume that would cause an SK win.
OR!
I'm completly wrong. Still, Vezok's ability would give Sylar saftey mech in the event he's targeted by a NK.
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I'm going to be a little WIFOMy here, but not significantly, and I think it's quite reasonable.
If I were the scum, I would normally want the town to waste its lynches on the Neutral. As scum, it would give me another shot and keep the town from lynching any of my scumbuddies. So, knowing TACKY has a way to deal with the Neutral threat at night, I want to block him so the town will be forced to waste their lynch. This way, the bomb goes away, which is good for us, and the town wastes its lynch which is also good for us.
However, assuming this is in fact the scum's plan, we can then turn the tables on them. If we don't lynch Vez, and instead let TACKY deal with him, then they aren't going to want to keep blocking TACKY.
First of all, the bomb being alive is as bad for them as it is for us.
Second, they have to waste their RB each night to do so.
Third, if we don't lynch Vez, then they are wasting their RB to gain no benefit for them.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
Barn the catching Sylar part, but I would actually make a lot of sense for Sylar to grab Vezok now. Seeing as how the only thing that DOES target him are kills, this pressure would surely 'set us off the bomb'. We don't know the consequences of the bomb, but if it's game ending, I assume that would cause an SK win.
How could Sylar becoming the bomb and "setn' off" not kill him but win him the game?
If I were the scum, I would normally want the town to waste its lynches on the Neutral. As scum, it would give me another shot and keep the town from lynching any of my scumbuddies. So, knowing TACKY has a way to deal with the Neutral threat at night, I want to block him so the town will be forced to waste their lynch. This way, the bomb goes away, which is good for us, and the town wastes its lynch which is also good for us.
So why did you start the day voting Vez and only now that the wagon is full steam ahead switch votes?
I don't see how? Are we going to test each player one-by-one with night actions to see if they work? That seems like it won't be fast enough to do much.
See Syrenz's explaination. This also seems pessimistic. Not helping.
It seems to me that if scum roleblocked TACKY (I'm assuming scum since no sane town would have roleblocked him), they want to keep vezok alive. If scum want vezok alive, we want vezok dead. So he's definitely a reasonable lynch, but I think we should investigate a little more first to see if we can find scum.
Barns me, then applies it as reasoning to continue what gathered him criticism yesterday: advocating lynching neutrals instead of scum.
Great wagon, guys. I'm scum because I'm scum. For those of you who didn't give at least some discussion of my case yesterday (that would be everybody except TACKY and AsianInvasion), you are mindlessly bandwagoning. I'd point out that I was the first person to vote jobo as well as one of the few to give reasons against him, but I think it's clear that's not going to help much. Do y'all just want the claim now then since it's obvious I'll be in claim range shortly?
Again, seems fake there at the end. "Do I throw in the towel now or later?" trying to gather some sympathy.
Also trying to clear himself of Joboman, but forgets some of the main arguments against him: bussing. Joboman was heavily accused of trying to bus HC, and it turns out he was scum. The fact that HC placed the first vote on him doesn't help one little bit, and actually hurts him a lot.
If you didn't notice, I still really don't like HC. I didn't really feel like any of this needed to be said, but when he claims we're all just voting without reason, I feel a strong urge to disprove this.
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How could Sylar becoming the bomb and "setn' off" not kill him but win him the game?
Well, I assume he'd be immune to his own radiation, but if you're referring to the kill submitted on him, I assume it'd be a lot like abusing that stack in a game of magic, but I have no clue.
I feel like this chance of a saftey net would be reason enough for Sylar to attempt this.
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I'm going to be a little WIFOMy here, but not significantly, and I think it's quite reasonable.
If I were the scum, I would normally want the town to waste its lynches on the Neutral. As scum, it would give me another shot and keep the town from lynching any of my scumbuddies. So, knowing TACKY has a way to deal with the Neutral threat at night, I want to block him so the town will be forced to waste their lynch. This way, the bomb goes away, which is good for us, and the town wastes its lynch which is also good for us.
However, assuming this is in fact the scum's plan, we can then turn the tables on them. If we don't lynch Vez, and instead let TACKY deal with him, then they aren't going to want to keep blocking TACKY.
First of all, the bomb being alive is as bad for them as it is for us.
Second, they have to waste their RB each night to do so.
Third, if we don't lynch Vez, then they are wasting their RB to gain no benefit for them.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
Alright going back through the thread here are my thoughts on many people, mostly HC but a few other people as well.
First of all no, don’t claim till you’re in range. PLEASE!
Well lets see first of all though this isn’t really your fault joboman certainly did stand up for you early and he has at least incriminated you slightly with his presence. Kind of like a really smelly thing, even if you just touch it briefly you may reek for a week.
Second you were pushing the lynch of dropkickdude rather early and in my opinion with very bad reasons quoting posts that were, in my opinion not particularly scummy at all. Around the same point you even called my posts a distraction. And while 65 certainly was a joke, at that point 64 was serious and I was pointing out that I thought vezopiraka was scum. Pointing out things that aren’t there is certainly scummy in my book.
Next you do a quick fence sit on whether me and dkd are noob town or scum. Not a bandwagon thing like jobo did but still a very noncommittal sentence setting you up to support or oppose a bandwagon on either of us. You do get a few points here though for being reasonable about vezo. This one probably goes even for you but this doesn’t mean it can be completely discounted.
Earlier as pointed out by AI you made useless and irrelevant posts often.
I will point out that aside from AI and TACKY Syrenz also said he found you suspicious and once the wagon got started though he had originally protected you joboman decided to bus just a bit.
However as I go back re reading all of this I notice a very interesting post. # 153 by TACKY commenting on how charlie’s last post is making hunted Charlie seem more like scum to him. Though the post that is being talked about is restating the obvious a bit it feels very town to me because what it is saying makes sense.
Soon after as he already pointed out Charlie is the second to jump on joboman with a vote and help get him lynched, not late enough in the running to feel like bussing yet. This post feels townish. Then again the whole forgetting to vote till later thing may have been an attempt to lend his weight to the wagon without being on it and he was only forced to put his vote one because people commented on him not doing so.
Knowing cyan’s play style him telling us all to settle down is a bit worrying but nothing that unusual.
Ok so here where he says that he is worried that vezo will explode when he vote him. Not sure whether this is scummy or not but seems rather silly. Mostly as everyone should be lynchable pretty much always.
Hey look TACKY did a pbpa on Hc let us review that real quick. Agreed that he jumps on DKD waaaaay to hard and way to early though I could be accused of the same thing with jobo. Agreed that the calling my post a distraction was not effective. I don’t really agree with fear mongering as a scum tell though mostly because townies have been known to do it often as a cost/benefit analyses method.
On post #188 he actually defends himself rather well against his attackers if anyone wants to go back and read that.
RO votes Charlie without talking about him effectively at all in the previous post or in the vote post. This feels very much like a jump on a forming and well moving bandwagon…. Scum sensor tingling. RO then defends his votes by saying HC has bad arguments without really giving any opinions on why or relevant information thereby.
Ecophagy proposes a very nice plan /approved. Wish this had been followed through on. Possibility that we don’t actually have a vig or just that vig is chicken? Eh worth looking in to at least a bit.
Ace comes in after not posting many use full things and says we shouldn’t game the mod. I disagree and believe in any game gaming the mod is very use full and in fact one of the best mafia tactics. I will then point out that THE MOD TOLD US TO GAME HIM!
Vezo is even saying he’s fine with helping the town win. Admittedly he would say that if he were helping scum and/or scum himself but this really rings like a neutral survivor that is happy to help us win along with himself. Please reread vezo and then ask yourself “Why are we lynching this man”? Seriously people think!
Vezo and HC both talk a bit. HC pressures Vezo. HC says that this plan is flawed, I like it thought the rb is a good point and sadly did happen, just to someone else. Vezo freaks out a bit but at the point where he is with no one listening to him that seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
AI says vezo is not trying to be help full. /Annoyed. I’d be more suspicious if you weren’t so much towny.
Joboman busses HC….. ok so this makes HC look town to me, now that the wagon is well and truly going mr. scummosity himself jumps on and goes “hey guys I’m good with this lets lynch him”.
HC says mod gaming is not a good idea. Disagreement but doesn’t seem like a scummy thing.
Ace pops in again to vote joboman, third vote so not bussing so much, makes me see him as much more town than before this do to his previous multiple scummy posts.
TACKY says that HC was opportunist bandwagoning when he was the second vote against jobo. Hmmmmm.
WOD needs to lurk less and be effective more……
Stormblind Should also post more but he has posted at least some content.
As the Joboman wagon goes down HC who was on it at the begging kind of fades into the background. Kind of scummy but he doesn’t unvote. A strike against him here but not really a big one.
Comes back and says he Agrees with lynching jobo but we should wait for other peoples opinions. Feels like a very townie post.
RO bandwagons at the very end Bussing Jobo out of the game when it is clear he is going to be lynched….. GRRRRRRRRRR!
HC points out that RO is not acting usefully townie again and I agree.
RO says that he doesn’t think continuing the day is good. More information is almost always use full. Though in this case I was also perfectly happy to see jobo lynched.
Cyan points out that RO is scummy YAY CYAN!
Now here we stand. After his horrible ending yesterday RO hasn’t checked back in yet and may be lurking and hoping it will go away. Lots of people including myself go and vote HC who “seemed the scummiest yester day. Yeah This wagon is a bad idea. Lets Lynch RO instead sound good people?
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Also, when I made my original post, I didn't know TACKY was RBed yet.
That'd be a better reason to hold your vote. Tacky could have had info pertaining to vez not being a threat or something unharmful but you jumped right in and voted, almost like you knew Tacky had nothing.
I appreciate you making such a long post, but will request that you use commas in the future.
Lots of people including myself go and vote HC who “seemed the scummiest yester day. Yeah This wagon is a bad idea. Lets Lynch RO instead sound good people?
RO is indeed scummy but what made you decide that Hunted Charlie was a bad idea?
Barn the catching Sylar part, but I would actually make a lot of sense for Sylar to grab Vezok now. Seeing as how the only thing that DOES target him are kills, this pressure would surely 'set us off the bomb'. We don't know the consequences of the bomb, but if it's game ending, I assume that would cause an SK win.
OR!
I'm completly wrong. Still, Vezok's ability would give Sylar saftey mech in the event he's targeted by a NK.
RO says that he doesn’t think continuing the day is good. More information is almost always use full. Though in this case I was also perfectly happy to see jobo lynched.
One thing, what? You cant condemn him for ending the day and then say you were happy the lynch happened.
RO is low on my list, I think there are much better options out there with out a doubt.
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Players needed to lynch: 12
AsianInvasion - 1 - Wrath_of_DoG - (L-11)
Hunted_Charlie - 2 - Ecophagy, TACKY - (L-10)
joboman - 12 - OneMoreTime, Hunted_Charlie, Ace, vezokpiraka, Cyouni, Nom_Anor, dracofaust, falkonn, AsianInvasion, Syrenz, AlphaInsidious, red_0mega - (L-0)
vezokpiraka - 1 - tordeck - (L-11)
Players not voting: Archmage_Eternal, Cyan, dropkickdude, StormBlind, TheIceMan, joboman
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"I honestly don't know how you thought you could get away with it." Cyouni spoke.
"I...I...but I wasn't even..." joboman stuttered, speechless.
"Save it. You thought we wouldn't check up on you? Come here first? Clearly you've had a hand in this somewhere, and we intend to get to the bottom of it." Syrenz added.
There were 13 people at the Petrelli estate, 12 of which were out for blood. They stood in the foyer, joboman with bags packed and heading out the back way. But poor joboman was just not quick enough.
"You have no idea, do you?" joboman asked. "This is bigger than you. There are dangerous people out there and you're letting petty differences cloud your judgment. What about Sylar!?"
dracofaust answers quickly, "Don't turn this around. You've been abducting people in your company for years. That is what needs to be dealt with, and now."
"You're making a big mistake." joboman pleads.
"Honey, you're the only one who's made the big mistakes around here," responds AsianInvasion, "and, as you can see, your time has come to an end. Say hi to your husband for us."
"But I..." joboman began, but was quickly subdued from a pistol whip to the head from Ace.
Ace wipes the blood from the butt of the pistol onto joboman's clothing, "Discussion is over."
The 12 quietly equip joboman with a suit to keep any possible powers from manifesting.
"Time for you to get bagged and tagged, Mrs. Petrelli."
Player list:
Alive:
1. vezokpiraka
2. Syrenz
3. red_0mega
4. dropkickdude
5. Archmage_Eternal
6. TACKY
.07 Ecophagy
8. AsianInvasion
9. Nom_Anor
10. AlphaInsidious
11. StormBlind
12. Cyan
13. TheIceMan
14. Ace
15. tordeck
16. OneMoreTime
17. Cyouni
18. dracofaust
19. Hunted_Charlie
20. falkonn
22. Wrath_of_DoG
Dead:
0. Chandra Suresh - Geneticist (Hero) : Died night 0, top of skull removed.
21. joboman, Angela Petrelli - Dreamer (Villain): Lynched Day 1.
Dreamer Ability:
Precognitive Dreaming(target self, passive, supernatural): This ability makes you appear to be Hero upon investigation.
It is now Night 1, so posting in thread stops now. Many of you have PM's to send, so please do so before Tuesday, June 8 at noon if you wish to action.
Good luck surviving the night, you'll need it.
EDIT:
I forgot I'm supposed to reveal abilities on death. Check the spoiler from yesterday and you'll see joboman's abilities. Day scene inc.
_____________________________________________________________
"I see you."
...
"Seriously. I can see you."
"W..What?" A voice murmured from the shadows.
"Gotcha." Sylar responded, slamming air into the brick wall of the alleyway. "Haha, you're a squirrely one." Sylar's hand seemed to move awkwardly a few inches away from the wall, then slowly a man took form under it. Sylar's grip around this scruffy man's neck was powerful, waiting for one wrong twitch.
"Don't, don't kill me. Please." Claude Rains begged.
"Oh, but I tracked you down all by myself! You'd deprive me of the pleasure of a successful hunt? How cruel." Sylar lifts his other hand, and in a pointing gesture, begins to cut through Claude's skull.
The alley was filled with the screams of agonizing pain.
And then, silence.
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Peter Petrelli lies dead in his New York apartment with his brother Nathan standing over him, his face twisted in grief and sadness. "Peter..." he whispers, crouching to the body of his dearest brother. A pool of blood surrounds Peter's body. Nathan's tears fell, making small clear circles in the crimson puddle. He runs his hand down his dead brother's face, lowering his stiff eyelids.
Now that ma was caught, they had no reason to leave Peter alive.
Nathan stands up, moving to the window. Wiping the tears from his face and smearing blood across his cheek, Nathan soars out of the apartment on his last flight.
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Player list:
Alive:
1. vezokpiraka
2. Syrenz
3. red_0mega
4. dropkickdude
5. Archmage_Eternal
6. TACKY
.07 Ecophagy
8. AsianInvasion
9. Nom_Anor
11. StormBlind
13. TheIceMan
14. Ace
15. tordeck
16. OneMoreTime
17. Cyouni
18. dracofaust
19. Hunted_Charlie
22. Wrath_of_DoG
Dead:
0. Chandra Suresh - Geneticist (Hero) : Died night 0, top of skull removed.
21. joboman, Angela Petrelli - Dreamer (Villain): Lynched Day 1.
20. falkonn, "Claude Rains" - Invisible Man (Hero): Died Night 1, top of skull removed.
12. Cyan, Peter Petrelli - Empathic Mimic (Hero): Died Night 1, shot to death.
10. AlphaInsidious, Nathan Petrelli - Brother Politician (Hero): Died Night 1, suicide.
Invisible Man:
Invisibility(target self, passive, supernatural): You can turn invisible at will. You are also paranoid of being watched and actioned upon. You naturally turn invisible to avoid action against you, and as such any non-kill action on you fails automatically. You cannot choose to stop this ability.
Empathic Mimic:
Empathic Mimicry(target player, night action, supernatural): During the night phase you may choose to absorb a target player's power. This will result in copying any supernatural ability available from the target into a one shot ability for yourself. This ability will be added to your Abilities list. You may also use Empathic Mimicry in conjunction with another ability, but only if the target remains the same. This ability may also be dangerous, as certain supernatural abilities may change alignment or affect you in some other way.
Brother Politician:
Brother(target self, passive): You love Peter very much. If Peter dies, you die as well.
Political Pardon(target player, day action): During the day phase you may submit a player name via PM. That person can not be lynched for the remainder of the day. If the lynch threshold is reached votes will be reset and a lynch will not occur. You cannot use this ability on yourself.
Rescue(target player, night action, one shot, supernatural): Once during the game as a night action, you may submit the name of a player to rescue. That player will be protected and blocked that night as you fly to rescue them.
It is now Day 2. You may resume posting. This is also a reminder to the dead players to not discuss the game until it is over or you are in the spectator forum.
With 18 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.
Re-reading, been on a lax break for a week.
Hm. Its day 1?
That's all I'll say for now.
He's a bit silly for falling for that trick.
Be back later gotta run right now.
Lair of the Cat (Mafia Stats)
It could be.
But it's not. Fixed.
Hiro turned us back to D1?
Lair of the Cat (Mafia Stats)
On that note,
Vote: Vez.
Also, it looks like that was just Zionite's mistake--it's Day 2 now.
Vote Hunted Charlie.
Great, thats why we don't blurt out claims. Why did falkonn claim anyways. Hopefully his death will help us out in the long run.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
How would you imagine it could?
Lair of the Cat (Mafia Stats)
By nailing Sylar
They hate us cause they ain't us.
That's actually a very good point. By taking the untargetability Sylar actually made it worse for himself.
Lair of the Cat (Mafia Stats)
Well, I was blocked. I forgot that Falkonn claimed what he did, or I would have had different night actions.
Strangely though, I don't think the RBer is the traditional RBer, as in he doesn't stop actions from happening. From the flavor, I more accurately got my powers shut off, but I was still able to take the basic action, at least from the flavor.
The end of the PM still says I was simply blocked though.
And now we have a tough choice to make. Do we lynch HC, obvscum from yesterday, or do we lynch Vezok to eliminate an imminent threat?
The Family
I'm leaning HC. But what do we have to fear from Vez again?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
In other news hunted charlie is the second scummiest after jobo's horrible performance yesterday. I am happy to vote hunted charlie.
Hey tacky i don't see a reason to kill vezo, he is still a claimed neutral and at least for now it is in his best interests to work with the rest of the town. A truly good neutral can be trusted to act in his own best interests.
Other than that, for today's agenda I would like to see tacky reveal his plan and until somone better comes up I'd love to see HC lynched.
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
He's 'the bomb', supposedly having an ability that causes more damage the more he's targeted. There was suspicion that Sylar may try and kill Vez, take this ability and uber-win the game with it.
However, seeing as I was blocked, I'm guessing the Mafia have their own plan.
I feel I'm with AE on this: kill the scum.
@Vezok: Anything to report from the previous night?
Vote Hunted Charlie
EBWODP: Revealing my plan requires me to claim, which I will not do, at least until I have the proper set of votes.
Hmm. Why? Give the scum the knowledge of what he was up to? Chances are he can still do what he was planing on. I'd prefer to leave the mafia, and Sylar in the dark. Big FOS here.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
But Sylar can't protect himself correct? He'd have to take Claires' power first I would imaging.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
At the same time however apologies to Tacky if it requires you to claim then of course do not. I guess I probably should have realized any night based plan would have to do with a power something. Sorry for my ignorance, we really don't need anyone else claiming :).
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
He clearly said he was blocked so his plan did not hit. So this is plainly fishing.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Yes, hopefully by lynch. Thats what I was getting at. Knowing that falkonn claimed I was hoping the watcher if we had one watched him and that would reveal Sylar. So they could push for his lynch or reveal themselves later on if need be to kill off Sylar.
Yeah but they are coming quick
They hate us cause they ain't us.
That is unfortunate. Do you think it will be feasible to try again, or has this ship sailed?
We lynch scum. Vote: Hunted Charlie.. Also do not like the way OneMoreTime is currently acting, someone to keep an eye on.
smoke_Killah
Tacky please, mums the word. No more revealing till after the fact.
*AE raises hand*
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Also please explain raised hand. Was it a /agree that i need to be kept an eye on or did you have something to say and want somone to call on you?
I agree that we need to lynch scum over bomb. As already stated.
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
I don't see how? Are we going to test each player one-by-one with night actions to see if they work? That seems like it won't be fast enough to do much.
It seems to me that if scum roleblocked TACKY (I'm assuming scum since no sane town would have roleblocked him), they want to keep vezok alive. If scum want vezok alive, we want vezok dead. So he's definitely a reasonable lynch, but I think we should investigate a little more first to see if we can find scum.
Great wagon, guys. I'm scum because I'm scum. For those of you who didn't give at least some discussion of my case yesterday (that would be everybody except TACKY and AsianInvasion), you are mindlessly bandwagoning. I'd point out that I was the first person to vote jobo as well as one of the few to give reasons against him, but I think it's clear that's not going to help much. Do y'all just want the claim now then since it's obvious I'll be in claim range shortly?
And what informed decision would you form from what Tackys plan could be? The table was pretty much set in regards to HC and Vez
Yeah I'm waiting for my my turn to talk......J/K I volunteered to keep an eye on you, but I hope others do as well.
Why?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I honestly have no idea what descision i would make from thar information. At this point i shouldn't have it becaus eit would require a claim. But as shown by yesterday at least even mid hard bandwagon if new compelling information pops up things can change rather quickly.
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
Taking untargetability means some roles such as tracker, cop etc.. can't target you. If he's untargetable though, every single role essentially becomes a sylar cop now as if anyone targets him and is told that he's untargetable we know he's Sylar. I'm not saying we're proactively looking for him like that, I'm saying that the likelihood of catching him has increased substantially.
Slightly worried by how quick votes are piling on HC with no reasons being added on. Need to reread a couple of things.
Also of note, Sylar now having untargetability would mean that he has no interest in Vezok's ability as Vezok said that he explodes from being targeted.
RO's giving me bad vibes, but I guess he does in every game.
Lair of the Cat (Mafia Stats)
Barn the catching Sylar part, but I would actually make a lot of sense for Sylar to grab Vezok now. Seeing as how the only thing that DOES target him are kills, this pressure would surely 'set us off the bomb'. We don't know the consequences of the bomb, but if it's game ending, I assume that would cause an SK win.
OR!
I'm completly wrong. Still, Vezok's ability would give Sylar saftey mech in the event he's targeted by a NK.
I'm going to be a little WIFOMy here, but not significantly, and I think it's quite reasonable.
If I were the scum, I would normally want the town to waste its lynches on the Neutral. As scum, it would give me another shot and keep the town from lynching any of my scumbuddies. So, knowing TACKY has a way to deal with the Neutral threat at night, I want to block him so the town will be forced to waste their lynch. This way, the bomb goes away, which is good for us, and the town wastes its lynch which is also good for us.
However, assuming this is in fact the scum's plan, we can then turn the tables on them. If we don't lynch Vez, and instead let TACKY deal with him, then they aren't going to want to keep blocking TACKY.
First of all, the bomb being alive is as bad for them as it is for us.
Second, they have to waste their RB each night to do so.
Third, if we don't lynch Vez, then they are wasting their RB to gain no benefit for them.
So, in that light:
Unvote
Vote: Hunted Charlie
How could Sylar becoming the bomb and "setn' off" not kill him but win him the game?
So why did you start the day voting Vez and only now that the wagon is full steam ahead switch votes?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I don't buy this. It rings faked and forced, just like scum trying to act town.
See Syrenz's explaination. This also seems pessimistic. Not helping.
Barns me, then applies it as reasoning to continue what gathered him criticism yesterday: advocating lynching neutrals instead of scum.
Again, seems fake there at the end. "Do I throw in the towel now or later?" trying to gather some sympathy.
Also trying to clear himself of Joboman, but forgets some of the main arguments against him: bussing. Joboman was heavily accused of trying to bus HC, and it turns out he was scum. The fact that HC placed the first vote on him doesn't help one little bit, and actually hurts him a lot.
If you didn't notice, I still really don't like HC. I didn't really feel like any of this needed to be said, but when he claims we're all just voting without reason, I feel a strong urge to disprove this.
Well, I assume he'd be immune to his own radiation, but if you're referring to the kill submitted on him, I assume it'd be a lot like abusing that stack in a game of magic, but I have no clue.
I feel like this chance of a saftey net would be reason enough for Sylar to attempt this.
I like this analysis, however...
This is an excellent question.
Sorry for all the posts too. Keep missing stuff.
I thought about it more.
First of all no, don’t claim till you’re in range. PLEASE!
Well lets see first of all though this isn’t really your fault joboman certainly did stand up for you early and he has at least incriminated you slightly with his presence. Kind of like a really smelly thing, even if you just touch it briefly you may reek for a week.
Second you were pushing the lynch of dropkickdude rather early and in my opinion with very bad reasons quoting posts that were, in my opinion not particularly scummy at all. Around the same point you even called my posts a distraction. And while 65 certainly was a joke, at that point 64 was serious and I was pointing out that I thought vezopiraka was scum. Pointing out things that aren’t there is certainly scummy in my book.
Next you do a quick fence sit on whether me and dkd are noob town or scum. Not a bandwagon thing like jobo did but still a very noncommittal sentence setting you up to support or oppose a bandwagon on either of us. You do get a few points here though for being reasonable about vezo. This one probably goes even for you but this doesn’t mean it can be completely discounted.
Earlier as pointed out by AI you made useless and irrelevant posts often.
I will point out that aside from AI and TACKY Syrenz also said he found you suspicious and once the wagon got started though he had originally protected you joboman decided to bus just a bit.
However as I go back re reading all of this I notice a very interesting post. # 153 by TACKY commenting on how charlie’s last post is making hunted Charlie seem more like scum to him. Though the post that is being talked about is restating the obvious a bit it feels very town to me because what it is saying makes sense.
Soon after as he already pointed out Charlie is the second to jump on joboman with a vote and help get him lynched, not late enough in the running to feel like bussing yet. This post feels townish. Then again the whole forgetting to vote till later thing may have been an attempt to lend his weight to the wagon without being on it and he was only forced to put his vote one because people commented on him not doing so.
Knowing cyan’s play style him telling us all to settle down is a bit worrying but nothing that unusual.
Ok so here where he says that he is worried that vezo will explode when he vote him. Not sure whether this is scummy or not but seems rather silly. Mostly as everyone should be lynchable pretty much always.
Hey look TACKY did a pbpa on Hc let us review that real quick. Agreed that he jumps on DKD waaaaay to hard and way to early though I could be accused of the same thing with jobo. Agreed that the calling my post a distraction was not effective. I don’t really agree with fear mongering as a scum tell though mostly because townies have been known to do it often as a cost/benefit analyses method.
On post #188 he actually defends himself rather well against his attackers if anyone wants to go back and read that.
RO votes Charlie without talking about him effectively at all in the previous post or in the vote post. This feels very much like a jump on a forming and well moving bandwagon…. Scum sensor tingling. RO then defends his votes by saying HC has bad arguments without really giving any opinions on why or relevant information thereby.
Ecophagy proposes a very nice plan /approved. Wish this had been followed through on. Possibility that we don’t actually have a vig or just that vig is chicken? Eh worth looking in to at least a bit.
Ace comes in after not posting many use full things and says we shouldn’t game the mod. I disagree and believe in any game gaming the mod is very use full and in fact one of the best mafia tactics. I will then point out that THE MOD TOLD US TO GAME HIM!
Vezo is even saying he’s fine with helping the town win. Admittedly he would say that if he were helping scum and/or scum himself but this really rings like a neutral survivor that is happy to help us win along with himself. Please reread vezo and then ask yourself “Why are we lynching this man”? Seriously people think!
Vezo and HC both talk a bit. HC pressures Vezo. HC says that this plan is flawed, I like it thought the rb is a good point and sadly did happen, just to someone else. Vezo freaks out a bit but at the point where he is with no one listening to him that seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
AI says vezo is not trying to be help full. /Annoyed. I’d be more suspicious if you weren’t so much towny.
Joboman busses HC….. ok so this makes HC look town to me, now that the wagon is well and truly going mr. scummosity himself jumps on and goes “hey guys I’m good with this lets lynch him”.
HC says mod gaming is not a good idea. Disagreement but doesn’t seem like a scummy thing.
Ace pops in again to vote joboman, third vote so not bussing so much, makes me see him as much more town than before this do to his previous multiple scummy posts.
TACKY says that HC was opportunist bandwagoning when he was the second vote against jobo. Hmmmmm.
WOD needs to lurk less and be effective more……
Stormblind Should also post more but he has posted at least some content.
As the Joboman wagon goes down HC who was on it at the begging kind of fades into the background. Kind of scummy but he doesn’t unvote. A strike against him here but not really a big one.
Comes back and says he Agrees with lynching jobo but we should wait for other peoples opinions. Feels like a very townie post.
RO bandwagons at the very end Bussing Jobo out of the game when it is clear he is going to be lynched….. GRRRRRRRRRR!
HC points out that RO is not acting usefully townie again and I agree.
RO says that he doesn’t think continuing the day is good. More information is almost always use full. Though in this case I was also perfectly happy to see jobo lynched.
Cyan points out that RO is scummy YAY CYAN!
Now here we stand. After his horrible ending yesterday RO hasn’t checked back in yet and may be lurking and hoping it will go away. Lots of people including myself go and vote HC who “seemed the scummiest yester day. Yeah This wagon is a bad idea. Lets Lynch RO instead sound good people?
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
That'd be a better reason to hold your vote. Tacky could have had info pertaining to vez not being a threat or something unharmful but you jumped right in and voted, almost like you knew Tacky had nothing.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
RO is indeed scummy but what made you decide that Hunted Charlie was a bad idea?
yeah that's possible actually
Lair of the Cat (Mafia Stats)
One thing, what? You cant condemn him for ending the day and then say you were happy the lynch happened.
RO is low on my list, I think there are much better options out there with out a doubt.
They hate us cause they ain't us.