The vague aspect of this bugs me. If your WC is 'impossible', then you shouldn't be opposed to telling us what it is. Especially since you apparently didn't mind telling us that you're a Survivor.
Seems like a stall.
I agree, but I also believe the rest of his claim, so we need to be careful how we handle this. Even if he reveals a win condition that we do not like, we have no way of doing anything about it without risking a possibly game-ending explosion.
Interesting, but I think of vezokpiraka as more of an "Imploding Man".
I agree, but I also believe the rest of his claim, so we need to be careful how we handle this. Even if he reveals a win condition that we do not like, we have no way of doing anything about it without risking a possibly game-ending explosion.
Do you care to add some actual content, or at least give us your reasoning?
Both of these are strong gut reads. As its still barely out of the random phase it's difficult to do actual analysis.
I agree, but I also believe the rest of his claim, so we need to be careful how we handle this. Even if he reveals a win condition that we do not like, we have no way of doing anything about it without risking a possibly game-ending explosion.
I can't imagine a game-ending explosion at this stage tbh. Although I am curious as to what will happen.
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Can Isaac stop the bomb?
@Issac Mendez: I think you're supposed to stop the bomb. Vezok is the bomb.
So what were you referring to by my "blatant fishing"?
It looked like an advertisement so I forwarded it to a mod already lol
I can't imagine a game-ending explosion at this stage tbh. Although I am curious as to what will happen.
@Issac Mendez: I think you're supposed to stop the bomb. Vezok is the bomb.
I was reffering to you asking Vez about his ability. He didn't need to share any more, and the townie thing to do was to say "Do not reveal any more information"
I was reffering to you asking Vez about his ability. He didn't need to share any more, and the townie thing to do was to say "Do not reveal any more information"
You don't think we needed to know about his wincon and what happens if he explodes?
Are you talking about my questions to Vezok about his wincon and stuff?
yeah, would like to hear full wincon.
It's not fishing if he's already claimed. At this point it's simply clarification. I want to know what will happen if he's lynched, what will happen if he's NK'd, and what will happen if he's targeted too many times. I doubt that Zionite only told him, "Bad things will happen if people target you." without further details. If he knows more he needs to tell us or we will just lynch him/vig him now.
Sorry I haven't been around guys. I went to sleep as soon as I got home from work last night. I don't have much time now, but I really wanted to check in. I hate doing this, but based on the nature of this game and this...
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Still, you will be surprised at how much this game will be like the series.
and this...
NOTE: Be careful with your role claims. You don't know what your name might mean to others. Roles may rely on finding certain people, so claim with caution.
I feel like the best thing for me to do is do a semi-claim.
I am the invisible man.
The reason that I bring this up is that in the series I help out character's that I think will be town. It could prove extremely helpful if me and certain other character's like Peter hook up.
Here's the issue. I'm untargetable. So I don't know if there is it will be hard for whoever has peter to "find" me. I do know that there is a caveat to my untargetability. I really really hope that the scum don't figure out the caveat before the town does...
Unfortunately I have to run. I will come back and answer any questions when I have more time.
wow, er, that went well. Not sure whether outing bomb early is a good thing or not but i guess unvote.
Well lets see whats happened since i left.
Tordeck barns me.......
Bomb is outed
Lots of people call me town :D.
Joboman calls me a noob :mad:.
And most importantly as far as i can tell joboman has barned a lot of people calling me town and added noob on to it without any reasons. Granted other did not exactly give reasons to support either but his feels alot more like "hey look i agree with you but a little different so you won't be suspicious"
I officially retract that my last statement was sarcastic for now it is a custom i intend to follow. vote joboman
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Sorry I haven't been around guys. I went to sleep as soon as I got home from work last night. I don't have much time now, but I really wanted to check in. I hate doing this, but based on the nature of this game and this...
and this...
I feel like the best thing for me to do is do a semi-claim.
I am the invisible man.
The reason that I bring this up is that in the series I help out character's that I think will be town. It could prove extremely helpful if me and certain other character's like Peter hook up.
Here's the issue. I'm untargetable. So I don't know if there is it will be hard for whoever has peter to "find" me. I do know that there is a caveat to my untargetability. I really really hope that the scum don't figure out the caveat before the town does...
Unfortunately I have to run. I will come back and answer any questions when I have more time.
You should not have mentioned that your ability has this caveat. I think I know what it is.
"Man, I really hope that the scum don't figure out the caveat to my ability. What is the best way to prevent this? Hmmmm. OH I KNOW! I'll tell everyone exactly what my ability is and that it has a caveat!. Whew, now I'm safe!"
Come on..seriously. Does every townie have to be a scum asset?
wow, er, that went well. Not sure whether outing bomb early is a good thing or not but i guess unvote.
Well lets see whats happened since i left.
Tordeck barns me.......
Bomb is outed
Lots of people call me town :D.
Joboman calls me a noob :mad:.
And most importantly as far as i can tell joboman has barned a lot of people calling me town and added noob on to it without any reasons. Granted other did not exactly give reasons to support either but his feels alot more like "hey look i agree with you but a little different so you won't be suspicious"
I officially retract that my last statement was sarcastic for now it is a custom i intend to follow. vote joboman
Yeah, my opinions were definitely just confirmed. Your Noob Townieness is obvious.
I feel like the best thing for me to do is do a semi-claim.
I am the invisible man.
The reason that I bring this up is that in the series I help out character's that I think will be town. It could prove extremely helpful if me and certain other character's like Peter hook up.
Here's the issue. I'm untargetable. So I don't know if there is it will be hard for whoever has peter to "find" me. I do know that there is a caveat to my untargetability. I really really hope that the scum don't figure out the caveat before the town does...
Unfortunately I have to run. I will come back and answer any questions when I have more time.
This really does not seem like smart play.
It could prove extremely helpful if me and certain other character's like Peter hook up.
Others like who? The only other person coming to mind is Sylar.
Here's the issue. I'm untargetable. So I don't know if there is it will be hard for whoever has peter to "find" me. I do know that there is a caveat to my untargetability. I really really hope that the scum don't figure out the caveat before the town does...
Peter won't be able to target you if you're untargetable so this gains nothing really.
joboman condescending to me is an ineffective form of defense.......
Its not defence, there's nothing to defend against.
Here's the deal, you're the kind of newer player that is prone to OMGUS. As soon as you are insulted the player that did this instantly becomes #1 scum. I'm not trying to be condecending, I'm just saying it with this amount of sureness because I was, and still am partly, like this too.
Me calling you "noob town" is not an insult by any means I hope you know.
.... the fact that you called me noob town has nothing to do with it. It's not omgus in the slightest. It's the fact that i feel you are following a sort of bandwagon and the way you did it strikes me as scummy.
Maybe defence is the wrong word but i still see no reason to do it.
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i highly disagree with your opinion..... Some people with under a thousand posts have played mafia much more than their post count suggets. That is a topic for a different time and shuold not be used to take up space in this mafia.
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What a surprise. You guys can't all be this obvscum.
I'd be OK with a wagon on joboman or vezokpiraka. In a different circumstance I would recommend a vig take out the claimed neutral but it sounds like the vig would probably die as well here.
to me at least he bandwagoned, and i see that as a strong scumtell. It feels like he is trying to get town points for agreeing with usually well trusted town players while changing what he says just a little bit so as not to be outed.
I have seen this and have outed him.
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to me at least he bandwagoned, and i see that as a strong scumtell. It feels like he is trying to get town points for agreeing with usually well trusted town players while changing what he says just a little bit so as not to be outed.
I have seen this and have outed him.
I didn't change what they said though.... If you ask them they'll agree that you are "noob" (replace this with inexperienced if you deem that less offensive) town.
And Hunted Charlie just gives me a really strong gut feel. Why would scum tie themselves to a scumbuddy as strongly as this? Even for "Joboman Logic" this is off, and don't even think about quoting WIFOM on me.
the point is they didn't say it, there was a small, nearly insignificant change, made by you, so you could join a bandwagon. I've called you on it and now your trying to say it doesn't matter.
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the point is they didn't say it, there was a small, nearly insignificant change, made by you, so you could join a bandwagon. I've called you on it and now your trying to say it doesn't matter.
It really doesn't. Your noob townieness is obvious. I don't see how agreeing with others on a pretty much undisputed fact is bandwagonning.
For example if I said "look, the sky is blue!" and others agreed with me they wouldn't just be band-wagoning because it's quite obvious that the sky is actually blue.
And Hunted Charlie just gives me a really strong gut feel. Why would scum tie themselves to a scumbuddy as strongly as this? Even for "Joboman Logic" this is off, and don't even think about quoting WIFOM on me.
Hunted Charlie reads like he was born on a fence. Anyone defending that kind of behavior is suspicious.
EWP: Your interactions with OneMoreTime put you back in the neutral/no read category for me.
Wow, this game just blew up (pun intended). Unless someone counterclaims, I'm inclined to believe everything vezokpiraka is saying.
He starts off with some humor to disarm the reader. He finishes with the obvious conclusion that the claimed neutral is telling the truth. Nothing relevant here.
I think the smart play with vezokpiraka for now is to leave him alone, but be very careful not to forget him. It's important to remember that the scum could set him off if it seemed like it might benefit them, or he might side with scum if it helps him.
Wants to leave vezokpiraka alone, but doesn't want him forgotten. OK? Some fearmongering and stating of the obvious regarding a survivor siding with the winning faction.
Sidenote: I stopped watching Heroes midway through Season 3, but I thought Ted was the only guy who ever managed to really hurt Claire? Something about that makes me nervous.
So vezokpiraka is out of the hunt. I'm not sure I agree with everybody saying DKD and OneMoreTime are definitely noob town, but it does seem like that's just as likely as noob scum. So I agree that there's no point bandwagoning against them now. Unvote
Gives absolutely no opinion on whether obvtown players are town or scum, but simply unvotes. Really? This is atrocious.
He who does not hunt scum is scum.
I wish I had more votes.
AI, the game has just started brah. Chillax we're on page four... I think some people haven't even posted yet. At this point in the game, not having done scum hunting is a non-issue.
accept what happened was everyone said today is nice and you said. "hey look today is ok"! Then i pointed out that you had said something different and it felt like bandwagoning, alot. Your constant attempts to convince me otherwise are not helping.
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i highly disagree with your opinion..... Some people with under a thousand posts have played mafia much more than their post count suggets. That is a topic for a different time and shuold not be used to take up space in this mafia.
to me at least he bandwagoned, and i see that as a strong scumtell. It feels like he is trying to get town points for agreeing with usually well trusted town players while changing what he says just a little bit so as not to be outed.
I have seen this and have outed him.
He was agreeing that you are town. Newb (OMG SO HORRIBLE!!!) Town albeit, but Town. And you attacked him for it. Bandwagoning sure, but I see nothing wrong with what he did. And even if I did see something wrong, it's not enough to call him obvscum and vote.
As far as these well trusted Town players, would elaborate more please? Who are these players and why are they town, but somehow Joboman's statement makes him scum. I'm very interesting in hearing who these people are and why they are town, in depth if you would please. I don't want any three line post.
the point is they didn't say it, there was a small, nearly insignificant change, made by you, so you could join a bandwagon. I've called you on it and now your trying to say it doesn't matter.
So, why does it matter that he called you a newb? Is this the 'minor difference' you keep mentioning? I don't see how him telling the truth about you being a newb has anything to with a possible bandwagon or Joboman being scum.
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@ OneMoreTime: I'm sorry, but I don't think any of us are seeing what the case you are trying to make is. If it's that he jumped on the "calling you newb town" bandwagon, then I'm sorry, but it's pretty obvious.
In other news:
Vote: Vezok
He's just too dangerous to keep around. If he's lying(which is quite possible), then we should clearly lynch him, but even if he's telling the truth, he's simply too much of a risk. We don't know how he's triggered or what happens when he blows up, but the signup thread implied him to be a very bad thing.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
AI, the game has just started brah. Chillax we're on page four... I think some people haven't even posted yet. At this point in the game, not having done scum hunting is a non-issue.
This reads as "I don't care to defend my actions because other people haven't even done as much as someone else!"
Not liking the man from jobo's posts so far in this game.
Although I am a bit wierded out by TACKY's accuracy, thank you.
Eh?
In other news, I agree that Vezok is dangerous, but I don't know if voting him is the correct path to take. He says pressure = bad news, he didn't say anything about Day or Night.
The most dangerous thing about Vezok is that his existance allows for another player in the game (Sylar, who?) to take great advantage of his ability, possibly ending the game.
@Vezok: What does your PM say about pressure? And I think the WinCon is important for us to know.
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@ OneMoreTime: I'm sorry, but I don't think any of us are seeing what the case you are trying to make is. If it's that he jumped on the "calling you newb town" bandwagon, then I'm sorry, but it's pretty obvious.
In other news:
Vote: Vezok
He's just too dangerous to keep around. If he's lying(which is quite possible), then we should clearly lynch him, but even if he's telling the truth, he's simply too much of a risk. We don't know how he's triggered or what happens when he blows up, but the signup thread implied him to be a very bad thing.
I agree that it's very, very, VERY likely that Vezok is just lying (based on his previous games and previous claims). I could be convinced to support his lynch.
This reads as "I don't care to defend my actions because other people haven't even done as much as someone else!"
Not liking the man from jobo's posts so far in this game.
Could you please clarify what this means? I think you mis-understood what I said, because when I said the thing you were quoting it wasn't about me...
yeah the thing I'm most worried about Vezok is if Sylar should take his ability. I think Issac Mendez may actually have a solution to the problem of the bomb (and I think Vezok was also being warned in "NOTE: Be careful with your role claims. You don't know what your name might mean to others. Roles may rely on finding certain people, so claim with caution.") but Sylar taking his ability before he's dealt with could turn out badly.
I don't think Sylar gains the ability of people he kills. At the least, this would be REDICULOUSLY overpowered. Come on guys, just think about it.
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and the most flavor-accurate integration into a mafia game of all time.
Here's what I think Sylar is:
I think Sylar can try to kill a person in each night and will get their ability if he is succesful. He can only use one ability each night including his kill which would tone him down a bit. If he wants to use other abilities he can't use his kill. Passive abilities would still be in place though. And if he tries to kill Claire he will just take her ability without killing her. So basically I think he's a standard SK who gains passive abilities and has the option of switching out his kill for an ability at night, which is very powered but I don't think it's neccesarily that overpowered.
@Sylar: Let me know if any of this is wrong please
On Syrenz "fishing": Honestly it didn't seem like much of a scumtell to me. It seemed like he just wanted some clarification. It's understandable and I don't think its a strong tell, but I think we should agree at this point to STOP REVEALING/ASKING FOR UNNECESSARY INFORMATION, people. The mod even put in the rules to "claim with caution", but already we've got multiple claims. That just seems stupid.
On falkonn's claim: Sigh. Well now the scum are sure to be hard at work on figuring out how to target you. That was just stupid, see above paragraph.
On joboman: I agree he's sorta just barning and staying quiet. Could just mean he's busy, but since we don't really have a ton of strong leads right now I guess he's the best we've got. Wagon I suppose?
On AsianInvasion: Yup, I do think we should stay watchful on vezokpiraka. And yes, I am not utterly convinced, like everybody else is, that DKD or OneMoreTime are definite town. I don't see these positions as issues in any way. To say I'm "super sure this guy is the scum!!!!!!1111" would just be a lie at this point. There isn't enough evidence yet for a strong wagon on anybody.
I agree, but I also believe the rest of his claim, so we need to be careful how we handle this. Even if he reveals a win condition that we do not like, we have no way of doing anything about it without risking a possibly game-ending explosion.
Do you care to add some actual content, or at least give us your reasoning?
smoke_Killah
Both of these are strong gut reads. As its still barely out of the random phase it's difficult to do actual analysis.
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So, in other words, they're pretty much useless.
Fair enough, but I did not ask for any analysis, just a bit bore than "___ is town".
smoke_Killah
So what were you referring to by my "blatant fishing"?
It looked like an advertisement so I forwarded it to a mod already lol
I can't imagine a game-ending explosion at this stage tbh. Although I am curious as to what will happen.
@Issac Mendez: I think you're supposed to stop the bomb. Vezok is the bomb.
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They mean something to me...
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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I was reffering to you asking Vez about his ability. He didn't need to share any more, and the townie thing to do was to say "Do not reveal any more information"
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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You don't think we needed to know about his wincon and what happens if he explodes?
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The town definitely doesn't need to know the specifics of how a bomb type role is triggered.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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He had already told us the trigger. I wanted to know what would happen say if we were to lynch him.
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OH AND WHILE I REMEMBER, I THINK SOMEBODY OWES ME SOMETHING.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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This. Call it an educated guess.
It's not fishing if he's already claimed. At this point it's simply clarification. I want to know what will happen if he's lynched, what will happen if he's NK'd, and what will happen if he's targeted too many times. I doubt that Zionite only told him, "Bad things will happen if people target you." without further details. If he knows more he needs to tell us or we will just lynch him/vig him now.
Thanks for forwarding it; I deleted it before I had a chance.
Yeah, I definitely like you as town.
joboman sticking up for Hunted Charlie makes me suspect that they may be scumbuddies.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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I've only completed 1 game, Basic #19. I'm presently in #21, South Park, and this one.
Modern
WBR Mardu Midrange
UR Storm
Commander
WBR Queen Marchesa Stax
WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Pillowfort
RRR Krenko, Mob Boss Chaos
and this...
I feel like the best thing for me to do is do a semi-claim.
I am the invisible man.
The reason that I bring this up is that in the series I help out character's that I think will be town. It could prove extremely helpful if me and certain other character's like Peter hook up.
Here's the issue. I'm untargetable. So I don't know if there is it will be hard for whoever has peter to "find" me. I do know that there is a caveat to my untargetability. I really really hope that the scum don't figure out the caveat before the town does...
Unfortunately I have to run. I will come back and answer any questions when I have more time.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/blog.php?u=52729
Well lets see whats happened since i left.
Tordeck barns me.......
Bomb is outed
Lots of people call me town :D.
Joboman calls me a noob :mad:.
And most importantly as far as i can tell joboman has barned a lot of people calling me town and added noob on to it without any reasons. Granted other did not exactly give reasons to support either but his feels alot more like "hey look i agree with you but a little different so you won't be suspicious"
I officially retract that my last statement was sarcastic for now it is a custom i intend to follow. vote joboman
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You should not have mentioned that your ability has this caveat. I think I know what it is.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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.....everyone stop claiming please......
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"Man, I really hope that the scum don't figure out the caveat to my ability. What is the best way to prevent this? Hmmmm. OH I KNOW! I'll tell everyone exactly what my ability is and that it has a caveat!. Whew, now I'm safe!"
Come on..seriously. Does every townie have to be a scum asset?
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Yeah, my opinions were definitely just confirmed. Your Noob Townieness is obvious.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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Unvote, Vote AsianInvasion
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This really does not seem like smart play.
Others like who? The only other person coming to mind is Sylar.
Peter won't be able to target you if you're untargetable so this gains nothing really.
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You just went on my town list.
Its not defence, there's nothing to defend against.
Here's the deal, you're the kind of newer player that is prone to OMGUS. As soon as you are insulted the player that did this instantly becomes #1 scum. I'm not trying to be condecending, I'm just saying it with this amount of sureness because I was, and still am partly, like this too.
Me calling you "noob town" is not an insult by any means I hope you know.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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Maybe defence is the wrong word but i still see no reason to do it.
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This attack on Joboman makes me less convinced that you are town, and I wasn't sold on you being town to begin with.
I don't understand why you think Joboman is scum. Elaborate please?
Falkonn...:facepalm:
At this point, I think it's a good rule to say NO MORE CLAIMS UNLESS YOU ARE WITHIN CLAIM RANGE!
Like that should ever really need to be said...
EBWODP: And for the record, Newb is not an offensive term. And you are a newb. As am I.
IMO, anyone with under 1000 posts playing mafia is a newb. Dunno why, it's my personal benchmark.
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OneMoreTime is obvtown, while Hunted Charlie is not.
Seriously.
What a surprise. You guys can't all be this obvscum.
I'd be OK with a wagon on joboman or vezokpiraka. In a different circumstance I would recommend a vig take out the claimed neutral but it sounds like the vig would probably die as well here.
to me at least he bandwagoned, and i see that as a strong scumtell. It feels like he is trying to get town points for agreeing with usually well trusted town players while changing what he says just a little bit so as not to be outed.
I have seen this and have outed him.
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I didn't change what they said though.... If you ask them they'll agree that you are "noob" (replace this with inexperienced if you deem that less offensive) town.
And Hunted Charlie just gives me a really strong gut feel. Why would scum tie themselves to a scumbuddy as strongly as this? Even for "Joboman Logic" this is off, and don't even think about quoting WIFOM on me.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
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It really doesn't. Your noob townieness is obvious. I don't see how agreeing with others on a pretty much undisputed fact is bandwagonning.
For example if I said "look, the sky is blue!" and others agreed with me they wouldn't just be band-wagoning because it's quite obvious that the sky is actually blue.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
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Hunted Charlie reads like he was born on a fence. Anyone defending that kind of behavior is suspicious.
EWP: Your interactions with OneMoreTime put you back in the neutral/no read category for me.
Let's look at his latest post.
He starts off with some humor to disarm the reader. He finishes with the obvious conclusion that the claimed neutral is telling the truth. Nothing relevant here.
Wants to leave vezokpiraka alone, but doesn't want him forgotten. OK? Some fearmongering and stating of the obvious regarding a survivor siding with the winning faction.
More baseless fearmongering.
Gives absolutely no opinion on whether obvtown players are town or scum, but simply unvotes. Really? This is atrocious.
He who does not hunt scum is scum.
I wish I had more votes.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
you are wrong.
AI=town.
Joboman=should be shot.
accept what happened was everyone said today is nice and you said. "hey look today is ok"! Then i pointed out that you had said something different and it felt like bandwagoning, alot. Your constant attempts to convince me otherwise are not helping.
Nothing becomes all
Here you stand before me
So here shall you fall
Thanks to Damnation Studios and Darth Monkey
"Just One More Chance"
then don't bring it up...
He was agreeing that you are town. Newb (OMG SO HORRIBLE!!!) Town albeit, but Town. And you attacked him for it. Bandwagoning sure, but I see nothing wrong with what he did. And even if I did see something wrong, it's not enough to call him obvscum and vote.
As far as these well trusted Town players, would elaborate more please? Who are these players and why are they town, but somehow Joboman's statement makes him scum. I'm very interesting in hearing who these people are and why they are town, in depth if you would please. I don't want any three line post.
So, why does it matter that he called you a newb? Is this the 'minor difference' you keep mentioning? I don't see how him telling the truth about you being a newb has anything to with a possible bandwagon or Joboman being scum.
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
In other news:
Vote: Vezok
He's just too dangerous to keep around. If he's lying(which is quite possible), then we should clearly lynch him, but even if he's telling the truth, he's simply too much of a risk. We don't know how he's triggered or what happens when he blows up, but the signup thread implied him to be a very bad thing.
This reads as "I don't care to defend my actions because other people haven't even done as much as someone else!"
Not liking the man from jobo's posts so far in this game.
Eh?
In other news, I agree that Vezok is dangerous, but I don't know if voting him is the correct path to take. He says pressure = bad news, he didn't say anything about Day or Night.
The most dangerous thing about Vezok is that his existance allows for another player in the game (Sylar, who?) to take great advantage of his ability, possibly ending the game.
@Vezok: What does your PM say about pressure? And I think the WinCon is important for us to know.
I agree that it's very, very, VERY likely that Vezok is just lying (based on his previous games and previous claims). I could be convinced to support his lynch.
Could you please clarify what this means? I think you mis-understood what I said, because when I said the thing you were quoting it wasn't about me...
Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
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Joboman, Paranoid Noob Town RRRU
Mafia Record:
5-1-2 (Alignment)
1-6-3 (wins/incomplete/lose)
Here's what I think Sylar is:
I think Sylar can try to kill a person in each night and will get their ability if he is succesful. He can only use one ability each night including his kill which would tone him down a bit. If he wants to use other abilities he can't use his kill. Passive abilities would still be in place though. And if he tries to kill Claire he will just take her ability without killing her. So basically I think he's a standard SK who gains passive abilities and has the option of switching out his kill for an ability at night, which is very powered but I don't think it's neccesarily that overpowered.
@Sylar: Let me know if any of this is wrong please
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On falkonn's claim: Sigh. Well now the scum are sure to be hard at work on figuring out how to target you. That was just stupid, see above paragraph.
On joboman: I agree he's sorta just barning and staying quiet. Could just mean he's busy, but since we don't really have a ton of strong leads right now I guess he's the best we've got. Wagon I suppose?
On AsianInvasion: Yup, I do think we should stay watchful on vezokpiraka. And yes, I am not utterly convinced, like everybody else is, that DKD or OneMoreTime are definite town. I don't see these positions as issues in any way. To say I'm "super sure this guy is the scum!!!!!!1111" would just be a lie at this point. There isn't enough evidence yet for a strong wagon on anybody.
On Syrenz's guess of Sylar's abilities: Hm.
Why do you say this without putting down a vote of your own?
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