What he means is that you said 'WoD never talks to me', which has the implication that WoD is somehow a guilty party there. But with your later clarification, you change it to 'we just don't talk'..which is alot different.
Though honestly, none of it seems particularly relevant to me.
What he means is that you said 'WoD never talks to me', which has the implication that WoD is somehow a guilty party there. But with your later clarification, you change it to 'we just don't talk'..which is alot different.
Though honestly, none of it seems particularly relevant to me.
Yeah, this was my point. But I thought it was relevant.
Even if they're not confirmed, they're still masons. For someone to be willing to vote their mason buddy, that person should have been guilty of something that was very obviously scummy. A mason should be the LAST person to vote their buddy, not the 2nd person to jump on the wagon.
MTGS stats (won/played)
As scum - 3/5
As town - 5/7
As neutral - none
(I really have been scum a lot)
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I see nothing from PhantomS that has changed my opinion of him over the course of the game. It's very telling that the wagon on him stalled out yesterday and we ended up with a de facto AH lynch instead.
I see nothing from PhantomS that has changed my opinion of him over the course of the game. It's very telling that the wagon on him stalled out yesterday and we ended up with a de facto AH lynch instead.
Two quick votes on him to start the day don't make you uneasy in the slightest?
Also, PM, I already commented on PhantomS's shoddy vote on AH during yesterday, so Skander didn't really step out and answer anything I hadn't already said.
@WoD: I'm curious as to your logic behind the last post. Rather than just mimicking Kpaca, please explain your reasoning.
EBWODP: To clarify a basic game or a non-weird mini normally have several power roles on the town side (cop, doc, one-shot vig or something like that) and scum normally get a single RB. The town's power is way more powerful than the scum's power. Dropping all the power does not make sense to keep the game at three scum.
Also, PM, I already commented on PhantomS's shoddy vote on AH during yesterday, so Skander didn't really step out and answer anything I hadn't already said.
It wasn't the what, but the why. He claims he felt attacked, but apparently didn't feel attacked when I approached him directly earlier today.
EBWODP: To clarify a basic game or a non-weird mini normally have several power roles on the town side (cop, doc, one-shot vig or something like that) and scum normally get a single RB. The town's power is way more powerful than the scum's power. Dropping all the power does not make sense to keep the game at three scum.
This is false. 25% mafia ratio with no real power on either side would be fine, particularly with the masons.
Also, PM, I already commented on PhantomS's shoddy vote on AH during yesterday, so Skander didn't really step out and answer anything I hadn't already said.
@WoD: I'm curious as to your logic behind the last post. Rather than just mimicking Kpaca, please explain your reasoning.
Cyan because he replaced scumfinity, Skander because he seems to be taking any possible measures to mislead the Town, and also is dodging questions like a politician.
Well, a politician would have done it better, actually. "No reason :sneaky:" is never a great answer.
And you, because, let's face it, you shouldn't still be alive.
This is false. 25% mafia ratio with no real power on either side would be fine, particularly with the masons.
If you believe this, then you must believe that a normal basic game (or at least the old newbs) is skewed in favour of the town, since a cop, doc (+ maybe a one-shot vig) is better than a RB. Even a a single cop is better than an RB. Any single power role that you give to the town is better than the scum RB. Also, while masons are normally a town benefit over here I would argue it's null as they are not mod-confirmed and there's not much extra benefit to communicating.
Basically from all the 12-player games I've seen on this site I would be very surprised if this was a 3-scum game.
WoD what measures am I taking to mislead the town? I am also not dodging questions; you may not like the answers but I am answering questions.
If you believe this, then you must believe that a normal basic game (or at least the old newbs) is skewed in favour of the town, since a cop, doc (+ maybe a one-shot vig) is better than a RB. Even a a single cop is better than an RB. Any single power role that you give to the town is better than the scum RB. Also, while masons are normally a town benefit over here I would argue it's null as they are not mod-confirmed and there's not much extra benefit to communicating.
Basically from all the 12-player games I've seen on this site I would be very surprised if this was a 3-scum game.
You're doing it right now. Trying to convince us we aren't at lylo.Unvote, Vote Skander.
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I'm vanilla.
(I'm more than halfway through my read of Day One. Deliberately witholding thoughts for now).
When did he stop?
I'm on vacation and tomorrow's my birthday. Should be back to normal on Wednesday.
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
On night one I sent him a message asking if he was scum. He was like lolno. That is about as much exchange as we've had.
Why did you try to put the blame on WoD then?
Tried to put blame?
I'm not sure what you're saying here.
Your post was a non-point. I don't see what you're getting at with this trying to blame noise.
Though honestly, none of it seems particularly relevant to me.
If you guys are masons, then, I really have to take issue with that. It is simply not town behavior.
Vote WoD
Yeah, this was my point. But I thought it was relevant.
I don't see the problem with this really. They said they weren't confirmed.
Still waiting for ZasZ to claim.
WoD seems extremely insincere here.
I can't help being insincere, about it, to be honest I really dont think he's scum.
Everyone else yesterday or at least a good part seemed to think PhantomS was scum, and to be honest I just don't have the energy to do a re-read.
If I had to guess, I'd say that Cyan (because of Netfinity) and Kpaca because of Kraj.
Could you be a little less consistent?
What happened to that guy who was so fired up at the end of Persona? I miss him.
WHERE THE HELL IS ZAS?
MTGS stats (won/played)
As scum - 3/5
As town - 5/7
As neutral - none
(I really have been scum a lot)
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I think an "lolwut" is in order here.
Seriously, are any of you actually reading WoD's posts here? There is no way that he acts this way towards a mason partner if he is town.
I see nothing from PhantomS that has changed my opinion of him over the course of the game. It's very telling that the wagon on him stalled out yesterday and we ended up with a de facto AH lynch instead.
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
Two quick votes on him to start the day don't make you uneasy in the slightest?
Look at his opportunism against AH.
Why would you want to lynch three people when there's probably only two scum?
Because I totally have the power to lynch 3 people in one day
Skander is opportunistic as ever. Nothing new there. Still find that suspicious.
I think Cyan is going to win my vote here though. vote: Cyan
Thanks for answering for DYH.
It sort of seemed like it was a subtle attack against me (and WoD), so I was answering that.
You could have answered this when I addressed you (both of you) directly on the same issue. Why now?
No real reason.
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
Skander also needs death.
I completely agree with Kpaca - We need to lynch Cyan and Skander, then DYH if the game isn't over.
The game had twelve players, so no way is there not 3 scum.
@WoD: I'm curious as to your logic behind the last post. Rather than just mimicking Kpaca, please explain your reasoning.
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
It wasn't the what, but the why. He claims he felt attacked, but apparently didn't feel attacked when I approached him directly earlier today.
I'm getting a bit tired waiting on Zas.
This is false. 25% mafia ratio with no real power on either side would be fine, particularly with the masons.
Well, a politician would have done it better, actually. "No reason :sneaky:" is never a great answer.
And you, because, let's face it, you shouldn't still be alive.
That's interchangable though.
What a surprise.
I would argue for the interchange.
If you believe this, then you must believe that a normal basic game (or at least the old newbs) is skewed in favour of the town, since a cop, doc (+ maybe a one-shot vig) is better than a RB. Even a a single cop is better than an RB. Any single power role that you give to the town is better than the scum RB. Also, while masons are normally a town benefit over here I would argue it's null as they are not mod-confirmed and there's not much extra benefit to communicating.
Basically from all the 12-player games I've seen on this site I would be very surprised if this was a 3-scum game.