I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
Anyway it seems that Loran and Jobie are working together. I don't think either one is particularly scummy but it does seem that they are working together, or are just using each other to have an excuse to say something bad about Bilbo and Nom. It also seems that Bilbo is trying to twist people into acting against Jobie, Loran, and WoD.
I see two people defending each other, and one acting out against three people. It seems like Bilbo is acting more scummy, but he dosen't seem against town, just against people who seem to be acting townish.
The above poster is my second choice for a lynch. Build fences, don't sit on them.
@Bringer, define working together? Does the fact that I'm defending Jobie necessarily mean that i'm "working with him"?
Remember that in this game, the only reason players would be "working together" would be they know the other to be the same alignment and share the same goals....in other words, in this type of game, you'd be accusing us both of being scum.
The answers to both these is that Jobie's reactions are being increasingly forced. Like, obviously forced.
The above poster is my second choice for a lynch. Build fences, don't sit on them.
EXPLAIN. You're using EXTREMELY cliched terms to define your attacks on Jobie.
Jobie has "made the move to scummy." Jobie's reactions "sound forced."
EXPLAIN In original terms, the following:
1. Why you think Jobie is faking reactions.
2. What you think Jobie is faking his reactions to.
and 3. What you think Jobie has to gain from doing this?
That post is blinking in red, neon lights to me. It not only reeks of fense sitting, but--well actually, yeah that's really it.
But it's a lot more than I have on anyone else, and unlike Jobie, I can tell it's not just personal dislike.
*Fence*
Besides the spelling issue, i'm a bit iffy on Bringer myself. Early tells had me leaning town on him, but that last post is a bit meh. Hmmm.
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Besides the spelling issue, i'm a bit iffy on Bringer myself. Early tells had me leaning town on him, but that last post is a bit meh. Hmmm.
His last post to me is more than just a bit meh.
I believe that he mistook my observation of the two of you playing off each other. Because he needed to post something, he simply attempted to rehash what I said into his own analysis.
It can mean one of two things. That he's extremely busy/lazy/etc... and just wanted to get a post over with.
Or that he's afraid of making his own assertions. IE, scum.
UnFos, FOS Bringer.
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@Bringer, define working together? Does the fact that I'm defending Jobie necessarily mean that i'm "working with him"?
Remember that in this game, the only reason players would be "working together" would be they know the other to be the same alignment and share the same goals....in other words, in this type of game, you'd be accusing us both of being scum.
Right. Either this or one of you believe (very) strongly that the other is town.
I didn't say anything about your lack of frequent posting. Heck, I got prodded too.
Just offering one of two scenarios for why you might have made the post that you did.
I chose the second scenario, not that one.
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
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These are the things that I noticed happened on the last couple pages, and I was simply stating them. You and I both saw the same things going on, and thus we had very similar posts. Since we both have very limited information, any post stating the different relation's are likely to be similar.
EXPLAIN. You're using EXTREMELY cliched terms to define your attacks on Jobie.
Jobie has "made the move to scummy." Jobie's reactions "sound forced."
EXPLAIN In original terms, the following:
1. Why you think Jobie is faking reactions.
2. What you think Jobie is faking his reactions to.
and 3. What you think Jobie has to gain from doing this?
I think that Jobie is faking reactions because he is attempting to fit in with the grain of the more recognized town (i.e., you). He's faking his reactions to what Wrath of Dog posts. As for what he gains from this, I'm not sure what he's attempting to gain from it, but it certainitly trying to make people not like WoD.
I think that Jobie is faking reactions because he is attempting to fit in with the grain of the more recognized town (i.e., you).
Wow, that's weak. Trying to fit in with me?
He's faking his reactions to what Wrath of Dog posts.
.....You mean the posts involving WrathofDog wanting to LYNCH JOBIE?! So Jobie's anger at WoD for thinking this is FALSE?!!! HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?
As for what he gains from this, I'm not sure what he's attempting to gain from it, but it certainitly trying to make people not like WoD.
Lovely, this makes sense.
Wanna change your opinion on Jobie now?
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Anyone else who hasn't given their two-sense on the matter want to comment on Bringer?
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I agree with this 100%. It's trying to set a couple of people up for the fall and then pulling out the old
and the
Un FOS Nom, FOS bringer
I'm watching you. Although I'm glad to see you're not voting for me any more, it strikes me as rather odd you would use a post by the person you were formerly most suspicious of as a rational for your own vote. Not necessarily scummy, but I'm a touch more suspicious now.
As for everyone else not expressed a clear opinion on Bringer, penny for your thoughts?
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
Ugh...if law school+Jewish Holidays wasn't biting me in the ass I'd say no.
This is the problem with kingmaker, what discussion do we have here? Just people agreeing on bringer's 1 post.
WoD, I'd want Bringer to post at least once more and for him to tell us the following:
Who are his top 2 suspects as scum and who are his top 2 most likely to be town and why.
If he's scum it'll be wifom, but it's the type of question thatll reassure me that he really is scum-fence sitting as opposed to newb overwhelmed play.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
How long's that quote been in your sig, loran? Haven't noticed it before
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Nom- I had seen bringer's post myself, but I agree with the way you put it, yes. We are on day 1 of a "mountainous"-style game (and Kingmaker at that) and you did 1 thing I found scummy. I'm not going to go ignoring other scummy things because it would involved agreeing with you. There are times and places for day 1 locked-down blinkers-on crusades, and your earlier behaviour was not one of them.
So, I haven't posted in a while, I'll get around to it today. not like anyone's gonna listen to me anyway, or likeley even read my post. but i guess I'll need to post content at some point. that post hopefully will be today, there isn't too much to read again.
So, I haven't posted in a while, I'll get around to it today. not like anyone's gonna listen to me anyway, or likeley even read my post. but i guess I'll need to post content at some point. that post hopefully will be today, there isn't too much to read again.
How long's that quote been in your sig, loran? Haven't noticed it before
I guess I am a pure vet these days, and like any vet, I can occasionally be found with my hand stuck completely up a horse's backside
Nom- I had seen bringer's post myself, but I agree with the way you put it, yes. We are on day 1 of a "mountainous"-style game (and Kingmaker at that) and you did 1 thing I found scummy. I'm not going to go ignoring other scummy things because it would involved agreeing with you. There are times and places for day 1 locked-down blinkers-on crusades, and your earlier behaviour was not one of them.
I put the quote in there after Niv blabbed he was the kingmaker, but the quote is from 24 hours earlier (i save all aim conversations).
@Niv, Nice to see the most important person in the game PAYING ATTENTION.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Can we just have WoD lynch bringer now? We all know it's going to happen anyway.
I have to concur.
We need SOMETHING to happen to jump-start the discussion.
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Well, no, I'm not Bateleur. That would be very weird (and also, we would be banned for playing in a lot of games together, and we would be kidnapped by the CIA to show how we manage to be in two different countries at the same time).
You all decide that it is time to kill bringer (or atleast one of you decides). The king has him brought up to the gallows and hung. As he is dying, he screams about how he is one of "us" and has done nothing wrong. Turns out he was right, he did do nothing wrong.
Bringerofthenight - Townie is dead
NIGHT 1. You guys know the drill. Day will begin in either 72 hours or when all the actions are in (there are only 2, so this REALLY shouldnt take long)
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After a longish night, a new king emerges. Seppel takes the throne and looks around at his subjects, but there is a problem, one is missing. Seppel looks around, trying to figure it out, when somebody shouts wheres the sheep? Turns out, he died and was a townie, what a surprise.
It is now day 2, 10 alive, 1 vote to lynch
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
I find it really interesting that the mafia deemed Sheep's 9 posts worthy of a N1 kill. He certainly wasn't playing an excellent town game, and certainly didn't stand out as a player who would be the least likely to be lynched. All things considered, he really didn't do very much of anything.
I don't think it's bilbrixian due to the mafia's choice of nightkill. The most definite way of seeing his lynch go tomorrow was to vote of someone who was not involved and wouldn't be pushing for bilbr's lynch the next day.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
I don't think it's bilbrixian due to the mafia's choice of nightkill. The most definite way of seeing his lynch go tomorrow was to vote of someone who was not involved and wouldn't be pushing for bilbr's lynch the next day.
Besides the WIFOM part of basing an argument on the mafia's nightkill choice, what does that second sentence even mean? No, seriously, I can't work out what the heck you're trying to say, other than that you're trying to base an argument on the mafia's choice of nightkill...
I have some stuff to do today so I'll go do that. You have no idea how hard it is to not vote.
Probably going to go with RafK right now. I'm more sure of Bilbo but Raf is a deceptive snake and I'm sure he'd fly right under the radar if I don't take a stand right now.
I'm going against what I learned in Tachronic and I'm holding off my vig shot.
Fos:Bringer
That post is blinking in red, neon lights to me. It not only reeks of fense sitting, but--well actually, yeah that's really it.
But it's a lot more than I have on anyone else, and unlike Jobie, I can tell it's not just personal dislike.
The answers to both these is that Jobie's reactions are being increasingly forced. Like, obviously forced.
The above poster is my second choice for a lynch. Build fences, don't sit on them.
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Seppelsigg'd.
Remember that in this game, the only reason players would be "working together" would be they know the other to be the same alignment and share the same goals....in other words, in this type of game, you'd be accusing us both of being scum.
EXPLAIN. You're using EXTREMELY cliched terms to define your attacks on Jobie.
Jobie has "made the move to scummy." Jobie's reactions "sound forced."
EXPLAIN In original terms, the following:
1. Why you think Jobie is faking reactions.
2. What you think Jobie is faking his reactions to.
and 3. What you think Jobie has to gain from doing this?
*Fence*
Besides the spelling issue, i'm a bit iffy on Bringer myself. Early tells had me leaning town on him, but that last post is a bit meh. Hmmm.
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His last post to me is more than just a bit meh.
I believe that he mistook my observation of the two of you playing off each other. Because he needed to post something, he simply attempted to rehash what I said into his own analysis.
It can mean one of two things. That he's extremely busy/lazy/etc... and just wanted to get a post over with.
Or that he's afraid of making his own assertions. IE, scum.
UnFos, FOS Bringer.
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Right. Either this or one of you believe (very) strongly that the other is town.
I'm really busy right now, I'm very sorry I can't respond as often as I would like too, I just got a very unexpected work load.
This is true.
Just offering one of two scenarios for why you might have made the post that you did.
I chose the second scenario, not that one.
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These are the things that I noticed happened on the last couple pages, and I was simply stating them. You and I both saw the same things going on, and thus we had very similar posts. Since we both have very limited information, any post stating the different relation's are likely to be similar.
I think that Jobie is faking reactions because he is attempting to fit in with the grain of the more recognized town (i.e., you).
He's faking his reactions to what Wrath of Dog posts.
As for what he gains from this, I'm not sure what he's attempting to gain from it, but it certainitly trying to make people not like WoD.
Many thanks to Sgt. Chubbz of Damnation studios.
Perfect argument you got there, scum.
Wow, that's weak. Trying to fit in with me?
.....You mean the posts involving WrathofDog wanting to LYNCH JOBIE?! So Jobie's anger at WoD for thinking this is FALSE?!!! HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?
As for what he gains from this, I'm not sure what he's attempting to gain from it, but it certainitly trying to make people not like WoD.
Lovely, this makes sense.
Wanna change your opinion on Jobie now?
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nope.
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I agree with this 100%. It's trying to set a couple of people up for the fall and then pulling out the old
and the
Un FOS Nom, FOS bringer
I'm fine with a Bilbro or Bringer lynch at this point, neither have done anything to make me believe they are town.
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If this was a normal game, he'd be at L -2.
Anyone else who hasn't given their two-sense on the matter want to comment on Bringer?
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I'm watching you. Although I'm glad to see you're not voting for me any more, it strikes me as rather odd you would use a post by the person you were formerly most suspicious of as a rational for your own vote. Not necessarily scummy, but I'm a touch more suspicious now.
As for everyone else not expressed a clear opinion on Bringer, penny for your thoughts?
Jobie 2 (WoD, , Bilb)
Seppel 1 (Niv)
Bringerofthenight 5 (AI, SB, Nom, Bringer, Some one)
Rafk 1 (Seppel)
Bilb 2 (loran, Seppel)
Everybody who isnt me 1 (Bilb)
Another prod will go out on thursday to everybody under 12 posts. This is the warning now.
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Ugh...if law school+Jewish Holidays wasn't biting me in the ass I'd say no.
This is the problem with kingmaker, what discussion do we have here? Just people agreeing on bringer's 1 post.
WoD, I'd want Bringer to post at least once more and for him to tell us the following:
Who are his top 2 suspects as scum and who are his top 2 most likely to be town and why.
If he's scum it'll be wifom, but it's the type of question thatll reassure me that he really is scum-fence sitting as opposed to newb overwhelmed play.
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I guess I am a pure vet these days, and like any vet, I can occasionally be found with my hand stuck completely up a horse's backside
Nom- I had seen bringer's post myself, but I agree with the way you put it, yes. We are on day 1 of a "mountainous"-style game (and Kingmaker at that) and you did 1 thing I found scummy. I'm not going to go ignoring other scummy things because it would involved agreeing with you. There are times and places for day 1 locked-down blinkers-on crusades, and your earlier behaviour was not one of them.
Somehow I don't believe that.
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Scum are trying to lynch Bringer. Discuss.
I put the quote in there after Niv blabbed he was the kingmaker, but the quote is from 24 hours earlier (i save all aim conversations).
@Niv, Nice to see the most important person in the game PAYING ATTENTION.
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There are 6 scum in this game? Doesn't that mean they've won already?
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To reply to you, I was just going to bold the two scum voting for Bringer but this turned out to be harder than I thought:
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I have to concur.
We need SOMETHING to happen to jump-start the discussion.
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Well, no, I'm not Bateleur. That would be very weird (and also, we would be banned for playing in a lot of games together, and we would be kidnapped by the CIA to show how we manage to be in two different countries at the same time).
You all decide that it is time to kill bringer (or atleast one of you decides). The king has him brought up to the gallows and hung. As he is dying, he screams about how he is one of "us" and has done nothing wrong. Turns out he was right, he did do nothing wrong.
Bringerofthenight - Townie is dead
NIGHT 1. You guys know the drill. Day will begin in either 72 hours or when all the actions are in (there are only 2, so this REALLY shouldnt take long)
It is now day 2, 10 alive, 1 vote to lynch
same reasons. nothing has changed.
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Fos Bilbro. Yeah. you're helpful.
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I don't think it's bilbrixian due to the mafia's choice of nightkill. The most definite way of seeing his lynch go tomorrow was to vote of someone who was not involved and wouldn't be pushing for bilbr's lynch the next day.
Raf is my next suspect, so I'm going with him.
I actually interpret this post of his to be the opposite of scummy.
Besides the WIFOM part of basing an argument on the mafia's nightkill choice, what does that second sentence even mean? No, seriously, I can't work out what the heck you're trying to say, other than that you're trying to base an argument on the mafia's choice of nightkill...
I'm sticking with Jobie. which may not matter, being that Seppel declared me his #1 target yesterday and he's now the king...
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His explanation is still on this page...
OHGODOHGODOHGODOHGODOHGOD
niv what the hell
okay people choose RafK or Bilbo.
9 hours and no posts.
I have some stuff to do today so I'll go do that. You have no idea how hard it is to not vote.
Probably going to go with RafK right now. I'm more sure of Bilbo but Raf is a deceptive snake and I'm sure he'd fly right under the radar if I don't take a stand right now.
I'm going against what I learned in Tachronic and I'm holding off my vig shot.
I just want to type vooooooo